Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies Confirmed For This Fall in the West

Aaaaaaaaaand digital only.

Edit: I am a moron and only Ctrl+F "digital" rather than "download".

Day one Download for me, hope they do the same with AA vs. Professor Layton..... also glad that we are getting it this year

No Objections here.

I was very much looking forward to having an actual physical cartridge (eventually) to join the rest of my PW lineup on its shelf. If this is a digital-only release, that's only going to make it easier for me to bypass it entirely, because Capcom's decisions over the past year or two have only served to tick me off more and more it seems :/

I will get it but I'll buy Justice for All and Apollo Justice before I jump to this one. And I haven't completed 1 and 3 yet. Last chapter left in both games.

Awesome! I don't mind it being digital only at all, given how hard / expensive the physical carts of the other Pheonix Wright games are (iirc). Plus digital only means it'll be cheaper, in theory. & heck, I'm happy we're getting it at all given we missed out on Ace Attorney Investigations 2 (well that is a spin-off but still). & this only brings us that much closer to Pheonix Wright X Professor Layton Awesome!

For so many years I've wanted to play a full Ace Attorney game ever since I fell in love with my neighbour's copy, but they are SO expensive for DS games I might pick up this 3DS one though.

Yay! Glad to see it's making it's way over here! Hopefully the Layton crossover makes it here as well!

Phoenix's new objection makes him sound younger than the previous version :u

Oh great. £30-£40 then? Plus I hate retail downloads.

I won't mind that it is digital only if it requires a reasonable amount of blocks. I certainly would like to play this new installment in the series.

I'm actually fine with download only I've already bought a few retail games of the shop.

@theblackdragon Owning all the previous games means you are a fan and not buying it just because it's download only seems to me like a strange reaction. Sure, I would have liked it on cart but if this is the only way it will see a release then we will just have to live with it.

@Tasuki If the game bombs then Capcom will never localise another Ace Attorney game ever again and the chance of seeing Layton v Phoenix will be put in grave danger. Be careful what you wish for.

This news made me so extremely happy!
...Until I read eShop download only.
Dang it! Why!? I really try to avoid retail downloads. But if it still doesn't come to retail ill just man up and get the download.

Not even a limited release, huh? Boy, Capcom sure knows how to shoot itself in the foot... repeatedly.

Edit: Also, every time Phoenix speaks now, all I can hear is Dean Venture.

@Tasuki A 32GB card is about $18 on Amazon. A VC download averages 7MB... that's what, .007 of a Gig? Somehow, I think you are safe "saving room for VC games".

It's a shame that a lot of niche titles are becoming digital only these days, but it's infinitely preferable to them being left in Japan. I'm still bitter about Soma Bringer never getting an official English release, to say the least.

The best course of action in this situation is to buy these niche digital exclusives, provided they're reasonably priced (IE - not more expensive than the average retail game); it proves the market that publishers like NamcoBandai and Capcom are so adamant doesn't exist actually does.

Digital Delivery only?
No way, huge fan of the PW series her, but, simply as it is, can't accept this.

@Mqblank: I don't have to live with it, though, by not buying it. Nintendo doesn't even have an account-based system for transferring purchased downloadable titles, for crying out loud, and such a potentially important addition to my gaming collection I'll want to have forever, not just for the life of my one console. Capcom didn't bring AAI2 to the west at all, so it's not like this won't be the only Ace Attorney game I don't own. :/

I would really prefer a physical copy of the game, but in all honesty, I'm a big enough fan of the series that if it's only available digitally, I will most likely still end up buying it. I do understand that digital releases present less of a risk and as a result, allow us to get games we wouldn't have otherwise, so for that I am grateful.

Also, I do wish Capcom would take pre-orders for a retail copy and only fill those orders. I think that would be a great way to please those that wish to have a physical copy while still avoiding the cost of a mass retail distribution.

Better digital than nothing. I don't mind it.

Well, eShop only means I can't share the game with my little brother who has his own 3DS. And that means.... I'll skip it.

While I prefer physical copies, a download only version isn't going to stop me playing this game.

The only ace attorney related game I haven't played so far is the second investigations one...and I don't plan on adding a second game to that list if I can avoid it.

I guess the only thing now is that I'll have to upgrade my 2gb sd card.....

Yes yes YES! I haven't been this excited about a game for a long, long time! I'll be downloading this as soon as it comes out! I just hope it sells enough to ensure that any future Ace Attorney titles are localised as well...

Another game I won't buy. Is it so hard for Nintendo to release prepaid cards in my country?

@Mqblank your bang on. I think black dragon is overeacting i mean i hate the way ubisoft treated us over the whole rayman legends thing but i am still definitely getting the game. Dont hate the developers and there awesome games just hold a grudge against the publisher and hope they all grow fat and bald

They are doing digital release only for Ace Attorney 5, but won't do Edgeworth 2?

Great news indeed !

I was gonna get it on the eShop anyway, so this news doesn't bother me. I'm pretty hyped up to see another Ace Attorney, particularly since it's the REAL fifth game.

Are there seriously people out there who refuse to buy the game because it will be download only? It's a new Ace Attorney with 3D for ****s sake. It doesn't get much better than this.

@Tasuki "As far as I am concerned I rather not have the game localized than being forced to buy it digital."

I disagree heartily with you.

Ummm objection!?

It's not that I have a problem with digital, it's that I have a problem with how Nintendo does digital. Little eShop games are one thing, but I always buy physical copies of retail games because if something were to happen to my 3DS I'd be screwed. I know Nintendo has said they are working on it but it is how things are for now. :/

And the Ace Attorney series is a VERY important series to me and I was so looking forward to adding a 3DS title next to my DS titles on the shelf. This is incredibly disappointing. I'll probably buy it anyhow because I just have to play it (get to play as Apollo again!) but dang I'm bummed about this digital only thing. :/

Capcom predicts selling it at retail would be a bad move for them. So its either digital or not at all. As a fan, I don't care how its distributed just as long as I get to play it officially in english. I find people to be selfish to not agree with me on that. Not wanting it to be translated at all just because you personally don't like digital games, denying everyone else the chance to play the game? You had your way with AAI2, so let us real Ace Attorney fans be able to play a new game.

Seriously, the 'joy' of having a game box on a shelf is more than actually being able to play the game? And so what if your 3DS breaks a year or whenever after you completed the game? You still got to enjoy the game, unlike AAI2 which never got released in any format. Why can't people just enjoy playing games, and not focus on what may or may not happen in the future, or the meaningless 'joy' of having a box on a shelf?

Sigh Meaning I won't be able to buy it since I can't buy digital games with my country's money...

@gavn64: 'overreacting' would be stomping around and attempting to rally a boycott over this. simply stating that i will not be making this purchase, though... it's my own choice, and it's no skin off anyone else's nose IMO.

@Tasuki As much as it disappoints me, and I also prefer physical games, if it bombs in NA, I doubt that Capcom will think it would be a good decsision to then spend more money on it making physical cartridges.

I'll never understand people who hate digital only releases. As someone who started gaming in the 16-bit era, I'm thankful when niche titles are released in the west at all. There were tons of games that looked awesome back in the day that were never released. If digital distribution is the answer, so be it. I pay to play the game not own a piece of plastic.

Digital only? No thanks!

I'M DYING WITH EXCITEMENT OH MY GOD! I LOVE ACE ATTORNEY TOO MUCH! THAT MUSIC! THE "OBJECTION!" I'M IN HEAVEN ARGH

TBD, for years you've been seen to be one of the biggest Ace Attorney fans on NintendoLife. All of us fans have anguished over not being able to play AAI2 so seeing you react this way is quite surprising. You would seriously rather not experience this game at all than play it digitally?

And the same to the other guy who won't play the game at all just because he can't share it with his brother? Just seem like petty reasons to me.

That's sad to see, but I still think I'll get it, regardless.

@Bass_X0: Capcom has made some other decisions lately that have pissed me off quite a bit. All I've said is that this move has made it easier for me to not bother with this purchase. again, i'm pretty sure it's no skin off anyone else's nose whether i get this game or not, you're free to buy as many consoles as you like so that you can buy as many copies as you like, so if you don't like my decision (made entirely for purposes and via reasoning of myself and not anyone else), deal with it.

Very upset. I'm a stickler for physical copies.

Lame news, but at least it's coming.

So what's the hold up with Layton Vs. Ace Attorney?

I'm upset about the digital only thing - I don't mind dowloading some retail games (especially if they use the StreetPass function or they are a life sim or something), but I love the Ace Attorney series and I was looking forward to having the latest game joining all my other boxes on my shelf - sorry, I have a collector's mentality. Once I finish an Ace Attorney game I won't play it again for months, maybe years, after all.

Then again, if Capcom forces me to download it or not have it at all, I'll download it. What about Investigations 2, though? They could release it digital only too, right?

Ew, Crapcom, really?

Haha, I would have preferred the usual 2D sprites, but I guess this'll do.

@PP - yes really, otherwise everyone outside of Japan is going to miss out. I would rather not read an article with the title "Capcom suffers huge financial losses after releasing Ace Attorney 5 on cartridge in America".

Digital only or not, I´ll buy it day 1. It´s been too long since the last title in the west.

Torn... but not depressed by the news. With a physical copy, I will say that I can get it from Gamefly, beat it, and send it back for pennies on the dollar for what I'd pay for a physical OR download. Now, I must drop the coin to play this game. I have my own story I guess... I've Gamefly'd so many games and saved countless $$$, so a purchase here or there for some of my favorites games and series is acceptable for me. Plus, it's hard enough to get alot of these games ported over to us as it is. On one hand I'm succumbing to Capcom's (and other dev/pubs' wills) but when it's all said and done, I'm a gamer... and I like Phoenix Wright. So... I will be buying it, period.

@theblackdragon
Yeah. Nintendo needs to fix that pronto! I am sure they're working on something, considering the cross-Virtual console rumor we got the other day, but it can't come soon enough.

I'm perfectly fine with digital. In fact, I probably prefer it.

@Tasuki I prefer cart but Code of Princess is download only in UK so I had to buy in that way. If I only bought carts I would not have experienced Pullblox, Hana Samurai, PicrossE not to mention all the WiiU and X360 download games I have purchased over the years.

I think the only way for Capcom to release cartridge versions of Ace Attorney in the future is for this to be a success.

@PvtOttobot A tip for those of you who haven't played the Ace Attorney games: most of them are available on Wii (or Wii U) in Wiiware.

On topic: The money just... won't go into ... my monitor...

Works for me, Pretty much 90% of my 3DS collection is digital. Only Super Street Fighter IV and Kid Icarus: Uprising are retail copies I own. I would actually love to see some of the launch games become digital too like Ace Combat and Shinobi but that's just me.

I'd rather have Investigations 2 more than this game preferably.

I'm just glad its coming

Paying £40 for any handheld game is laughable, let alone one tied to Nintendo’s insulting DRM. No sale.

I'm sure people will have as much fun playing with their morals and standards as I will do playing Dual Destinies.

No. No you won't.

d'aww, are you really that upset, Bass_X0? :3

There's a huge irony here. For a community that lives by the motto 'it's all about the gameplay', there's a staggering amount of people that seem to care more for a box on a shelf that the game itself.

As long as it doesn't become a trend for Capcom, I don't mind that it'll be digital-only. I wouldnt imagine the space the game would take to be too hefty. It really doesn't matter, though, and in fact I may not even get it right away, I would still like to play the other Ace Attorney games first. I've only played Justice For All.

YES! Best new i've heard for a while.
I don't care about physical copies, it would be nice, but i'm just glad they are releasing it in the west!!

I am glad it's being released in some form. I would prefer a physical copy, but as it is a game I was hoping to get, but didn't seem iPod could, I'll take what I can get!

I really hate digital downloads but when it's a game I like and can only pick it up through digital, i'll do it.

Day friggin one.

Eh. I don't mind how it's there as long as it's playable. Better than nothing I guess.

I'm hoping the game gets enough sales as to hopefully warrant a physical release for other games in the future. :]

Dammit Capcom! Why Digital Only ! I will buy anyway but i just hope that nothing happens to my 3ds.

They also need to put all 3DS and DS games on eShop, every last one needs to be able to be downloaded. It's hard to find some of the older DS games like the oroginal Ace Attorney, why not release all games in the series on eShop so I can play them all?

I will say this: anyone not buying the game because of some childish reaction to it being digital only has no right whatsoever to complain if it doesn't sell very well and Capcom decides not to release other Japanese games in the West either.

Of course, it isn't ideal, but at least we're getting it. Maybe if it sells well we can finally get Investigations 2 as a digital download on the eshop!

Digital only, eh? Not a deal breaker for me, but gosh darn it, I like plastic 'n paper clogging up my shelves!

I´ve never played any of those. People love it thou so I guess I will give it a try one day

@Justaguest I mentioned it before, but I figured it was worth repeating:

For those that haven't played the original Ace Attorney games, most of them are available on Wii or Wii U in Wiiware. Just go to the Wii Shop and search!

I understand where their coming from but it just doesn't sit right with me that they're just now complaining about the Ace Attorney games not selling and yet we have companies like XSEED and Atlus that actually make a living out of taking a chance on games nobody else would.

If long term support is the problem why not do a limited print at first and see how things go from there? I keep getting the feeling these bigger companies are just so used to big AAA games now that they don't know how to handle anything else.

The other thing I don't get is why does anyone care if somebody else has a problem with it? If a restaurant did something to offend you or something you don't agree with would you keep coming back without question?

I am going to play this game no matter what. Hell, they could say "You're required to do the Chicken Dance while wearing lederhosen," and I'd do it just to play this. So, download it is. STILL, that's unfortunate for collectors. I feel for you all.

@Ralizah Your logic is a cocktail drink of Right and Win. And your avatar is awesome, to boot.

Capcom's been burned too many times with experiments. They've almost made themselves bankrupt a few times due to taking chances over the past twenty years. These days they prefer to take the safest routes even if they are not the most innovative or adventurous.

Many people will be downloading the game regardless of the consequences of Nintendo not having an account system. Some of us have spent hundreds on downloadable games. So it comes across as a self-entitled ego to not take the same 'risks' to play the game when so many other people are willing to do so. Its a Phoenix Wright game so its going to be good and worth the full cost.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
This is going to be amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Digital only you say? More like stupidity/Capcom ideology only. I pity Capcom recent dilemmas, but if they lack dedication then there is more shame then pity to purloined from Capcom.

Probably wont get it until it gets a price reduction, have a real problem paying full retail price for a download game, would have to be about £20 for me to consider it

EXCELLENT NEWS! I'd prefer to download a phoenix wright game anyway. I go back to older games to replay a fun case every now and then, and this means I won't have to swap out carts.
I dislike all this whining for a physical copy. IMO, refusing to get the game because it's download only while being a fan of the series is just plain stupid.

Capcom has placed us in a precarious situation. If we refuse to buy the game because there is no physical copy, they will use it as an excuse to say that there is no market for Ace Attorney in the west, and we wont' get any more releases.

However, I am one of the many people who prefer physical copies, and I am now forced to buy the game digitally to ensure that the series is supported. If I remember right, sales data from Nintendo suggests that 1/3 of their game sales are from digital, so they actually stand to make less money this way. Whichever route Capcom chooses, they are going to blame the fans for not buying it, and not their terrible business decisions.

Besides the physical/digital debate, I take issue with Phoenix's voice. It sounds too childish for someone in his mid thirties.I also liked Kizuki Kokone's name as it was; Athena Cykes just sounds ridiculous.

@TheRavingTimes Ah! The thesaurus. A handy, little minx, indeed! Hm, hm! adjusts monocle

But seriously guys, let's be grateful that the game's coming?

Yeah I'm not a fan of the decisions Capcom make sometimes.

For me, they still make amazing games. Which is why I buy them.

I prefer a physical copy, but I'll take it. If Capcom is gonna go with this route, why not do it with Miles Edgeworth 2?

come on guys, please everyone go download day one, is the only way we'll get AA vs. Professor Layton and AAI 2 localized and cartridge releases of future titles. Maybe even it'll be a little cheaper because its download only, I'm hoping for 29.99 instead of the regular 39.99, but I'll buy day one even if its 39.99

Capcom, once again, kings of lousy decision making.

1) Hopefully we get a price cut to $30. Remember, there's been talk of DLC cases... (nothing confirmed though)
2) AAI2 is still very unlikely to be localized.
3) Although this eShop release makes PL vs AA a little more improbable, we still have a good shot at getting it.

Sweet. I will no longer end up buying copies of this series just because I had extra $$ at the gamestore. I own a few of these but never had in real desire to play them. Digital only means that temptation will be gone, since the collection aspect of owning the game will be nixed.

This sucks, wtf Capcom? I guess it beats no release at all. It better be half the price of a retail game.

Pass.

sad at no cartridge release but, it is better then not getting it at all... (looks at code of princess Pal release)

@ferthepoet I refuse to buy an eshop title at 39.99, I havent paid more than £30 for any physical 3ds game so far including games purchased on release date and production costs on those games have to be higher. In fact most have been about £27 that I have purchased online, so if we start getting towards those sort of figures I will consider it. I do have the first 3 phoenix games but I can wait it out for this one, I dont want to see the download only route become common practice, especially for an established franchise

@BrightBeing I have a bunch of club nintendo points, maybe I can use them to get Wii-shop points and buy an 'old' Ace Attorney game

Day 1 purchase for me. I really don't like having it be download only as I really wanted a physical copy to add to my collection, but I can deal with it. I'm missing Miles Edgeworth: Ace Attorney - Investigations 2 and Professor Layton vs. Ace Attorney because, well, they never released them here so my collection is already ruined anyway.

I'm really not digging Phoenix's new voice, but I can deal with that too. That's probably just nostalgia that's bugging me. Either way I'm excited to play as Phoenix again. Not saying I disliked Apollo's journey, but I didn't think they handled Phoenix well in Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney.

I was really looking forward to this but I only support physical copies.

So nope, I'll happily keep my money.

Awesome news.

I don't like downloadable retail games,but if that's the only chance I can be with Feenie again,I'll get it.

A pity that it's downloadable only, but I still might try it since I never played this franchise before!!

The only problems I have with it being digital only for E shop is the fact that it is on the E shop, meaning it will be extremely overpriced, And I also like having a physical copy of a game, I will still buy it though because it is at least being released, unlike a certain other ace attorney game Capcom > (investigations 2)

I'm hugely disappointed by this decision as I would have loved to have the physical copy of this game along with the rest of the series once I've played them (only played the first) but it won't stop me from buying this game as it looks awesome! Although, after losing my first 3DS along with everything I had downloaded on it, I was thinking of not downloading anything on my new 3DS until it has a proper account system. But seeing as I've only played the first Ace Attorney game, maybe Nintendo will have implemented a proper account system by the time I have played all the DS games in the series. Also, with the huge fanbase that the series has, I doubt it would be that risky to release it physically but a download only western release is better than no western release at all.

Great news, but not local...

@theblackdragon Look, there's strongly disagreeing and then there's being a jerk about it.

@Next: i'm pretty sure you're responding to my last comment in this thread, therefore i feel comfortable in stating that particular comment was part of an A-B conversation. I respectfully ask that you C your way out of it. :3

With any game, it is up to the gamer to chose to purchase it or not.
I HATE download-only myself and I avoid it whenever I can. I am not a fan of Nintendo's "account" system.
But like they say with any system or service, it's all about the games.

If you'd rather let a series die off so you can "punish" a Company, that's your choice. (I dislike CAPCOM myself but not THAT much.) But I'd rather enjoy my game and hope that it's enough support to see more of this series that I have been a fan of for longer than this site has been around. :3

For those upset that it might be near to full retail, the AA games aren't really known for going down in price any time soon, although I agree that download versions should be cheaper (if only $5) than their physical counterparts.

P.S.: This is not attacking or addressing anyone, just replying to the negative sentiment of the download-only status.