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Interview: Junichi Masuda and Hironobu Yoshida Discuss Pokémon X and Y, Mega Evolutions and the 2DS

Posted by Katy Ellis

On the road to Luminose City

On 12th October budding Pokémon masters will be able to explore first-hand the beautiful polygonal 3D environments of the French-inspired region of Kalos, where trainers rush around on roller-skates and a giant Ryhorn snoozes outside your front door. We caught up with Pokémon X and Y's Director Junichi Masuda and Chief Designer Hironobu Yoshida to find out more about the development and features of the upcoming title.


Nintendo Life: It's lovely to meet you both today. Thank you very much for letting us play X & Y, we really enjoyed our time with the game. Let’s have a quick ice-breaker question, out of the three new starter Pokémon (Fennekin, Chespin and Froakie) which one would you pick?

Junichi Masuda: The one I pick the most is Fennekin. During my play-testing I found myself always picking Fennekin as my first Pokémon. It’s just so cute and you feel like you really want to take care of it!

Hironobu Yoshida: Well... I like frogs, so Froakie is the one I always pick. [Laughs]

NL: We're big Froakie fans too! Sorry Chespin, no love for you here today. So, why did you decide to name this generation ‘X’ and ‘Y’? Do they hold any significance beyond the design of legendary Pokémon Xerneas and Yvetal?

Junichi Masuda: We actually came up with the titles before we even had the legendary Pokémon designs. The ‘X’ and ‘Y’ titles come from the X and Y axis and we used these as ways to represent different ways of thought, different opinions, but also where these axis overlap. The message that we wanted to send and the theme we had in mind was finding that common ground that we all share.

Hironobu Yoshida: When it came to the legendary Pokémon design we knew that when viewed from far away we wanted them to look kind of like an X or a Y, so that was the main direction we went for.

NL: In Pokémon Black and White 2 there was a key system, which helped you catch the Regis and gave you access to version exclusive content, such as the Black City and the White Forest. Will there be a similar feature in X and Y?

Junichi Masuda: In regards to the key system that existed in Black and White 2 that was something that we implemented after we had the balance right in Pokémon Black and White, so we put that in to add in some more options as a sequel to the game. But as X and Y is a totally new entry we have added a lot of new changes, and completely rebalanced the game, so we didn’t really think about putting in a similar system this time around.

NL: The look and feel of Kalos is inspired by France; are there other countries which you’d like to base future Pokémon games on?

Junichi Masuda: We’re always thinking about places in the real world to get ideas and inspiration from. This time with Pokémon X and Y we focused on the theme of ‘beauty’ and we really felt that France matched that. The name ‘Kalos’ is actually an ancient Greek word that means ‘beauty’, so that ties in with the theme too. So inspiration for future regions really depends on what kind of theme we’re going for and finding a place in the real world that matches that.

The theme of X and Y is 'beauty' and France matches that. 'Kalos' is actually an ancient Greek word that means 'beauty'.

NL: We loved all of the little cafes dotted around Vaniville Town and Luminose City selling 'chocolat chaud' and 'café au lait’, the French inspiration is very clear![/b]

Hironobu Yoshida: I think that with Pokémon X and Y, even people who have never been to France will maybe play the games, and possibly later on go to France and recognise some of the locations – that would be quite fun! [laughs]

NL: What has it been like moving into fully 3D environments when you've spent so long making the core series in a top-down viewpoint?

Junichi Masuda: This time with the move to full 3D you can freely manipulate the camera angles, which you couldn’t do before. Being able to move cameras around freely and frame the scene just how we wanted added a lot of new possibilities, but at the same time a few challenges. It was difficult trying to get that right. For example, we can show scenes from any angle, but due to hardware limitations we can’t show things that are really far away, the rendering power isn’t quite there so there’s a drop in performance. Because of this we had to find ways around this, for example if we wanted to show a town from far away we can do that camera angle but we have to maybe use a lower polygon model for the background. So there’s a lot of new challenges that we have to deal with by having this new freedom with the camera angles.

NL: Has the move to 3D and increased challenges meant that you’ve had to increase the size of your development team at Game Freak?

We had around 200 people working on the development of X and Y, as well as localisation staff. In the credits around 500 names that appear!

Junichi Masuda: Yes, definitely, we have a much larger group of people working on the games this time around. On the actual development of the game we have around 200 people working on X and Y, and then with the global simultaneous release of the titles we have more localisation staff and other people to make that possible. I think in the credits there is around 500 names that appear. And even outside of those people, there are some involved in the development of the game in some way!

NL: In X and Y there are a new group of villains called Team Flare – could you tell us a little bit about them?

Junichi Masuda: So this time around I think that the villainous team are a bit more charming, and funny than maybe other groups in past games. But with the global simultaneous release of X and Y I really want people to experience Team Flare for themselves, and find out exactly what they’re up to.

NL: [laughs] Okay, let's try to keep this spoiler-free then! We absolutely love the roller-skating and how you can ride about on Pokémon in the new game! What are your personal favourite aspects of X & Y?

Junichi Masuda: Ever since the development of Black and White finished and even before it went on sale, I wanted to focus on the concept of beauty this time around, and I really like the world we managed to create. But when it comes to a favourite specific element I think it has to be Pokémon Amie mode. I’ve always wanted to be able to reach out and pet Pokémon, and with Pokémon Amie I’ve finally been able to make that possible, as you can can also play with them. For example you can do little copying mini-games, where you tilt your head and your Pokémon copy you, or maybe you close your eyes and they close their eyes too – of course you can’t see them, you’ve got your eyes shut, but they’re doing it! [laughs]

NL: Are there any battle or stat benefits to regularly using Pokémon Amie mode?

Junichi Masuda: Yes, by doing this you build a more personal relationship with your Pokémon, and it has some gameplay benefits. The better friends you become, the more your Pokémon might start dodging moves in battle, or landing more critical hits.

Hironobu Yoshida: From a graphics designer perspective I was in charge of creating the Pokédex for X and Y, so this is my favourite element of X and Y. This time we’ve been able to move into 3D so the actual Pokémon model will appear on the Pokédex screen and you can freely move it around, and look at the Pokémon from any angle.

NL: Were there any extra features that you wanted to put in X & Y that didn’t quite make the final cut?

Junichi Masuda: Of course I have a lot of ideas every time around, so quite a few of them didn’t make it into the final game. It really comes down to balancing the ease of implementation and whether or not people will really enjoy that feature.

NL: Is there an example you could give us?

Junichi Masuda: Well… Now I have to think of something that, you know, won’t be used by competitors! [laughs] But one thing that I wanted to put in that didn’t quite make it was a translating machine for Pokémon cries, to find out what they’re saying. So you have this machine, and when a Pokémon cries out something, text would appear telling you exactly what that Pokémon is saying.

Hironobu Yoshida: Really? I never knew!

Junichi Masuda: Yes, I really wanted to put that in, but then thinking about the amount of text that we would have to include, with now over 600 Pokémon, it would be a really big task. This could be something that might appear in future games, but it sadly didn’t make X and Y.


On page two we discuss the 2DS, Fairy type, Mega Evolutions and that rather intriguing Wii U teaser video.

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User Comments (29)

Blast

#1

Blast said:

I said it before and I'll say it again... My hype for this game is monstrous.

DarkKirby

#2

DarkKirby said:

Junichi Masuda: This time with the move to full 3D you can freely manipulate the camera angles, which you couldn’t do before.

Really? I was under the impression that movement of the camera wasn't possible. Not calling this more misdirection like with no stereoscopic 3D in the overworld, but I haven't seen any video that demonstrated the ability to freely move the camera in the overworld.

In addition to that, usually the camera is controlled with the 2nd joystick Nintendo insists the 3DS doesn't need. Monster Hunter had to add an awkward touch screen joystick to compensate. How is the camera movement controlled?

Blast

#3

Blast said:

@DarkKirby Just like with Kingdom Hearts 3D.... I bet the gamer can control the camera by pressing/holding the L and R button.

Morpheel

#4

Morpheel said:

They probably mean fixed dinamic camera movements, not free control of the camera.

ThomasBW84Admin

#6

ThomasBW84 said:

@DarkKirby He may mean from a development viewpoint, in that they can move the camera, perhaps to give you a better view etc.

Superconsole

#7

Superconsole said:

@Morphtorok @DarkKirby Tom just beat me to it, but was just about to say that I think Mr Masuda meant in development terms they could manipulate the camera in order to frame each screen, rather than simply having a top-down view like in previous Pokemon games.

ricklongo

#8

ricklongo said:

Between Pokémon and Windwaker, October's gonne be quite the month for my gaming. And on top of things, it's gonna be my vacation month for the year. I can hardly wait. :)

Haxonberik

#9

Haxonberik said:

The Pokemon Bank is system based? What happens if I buy a new system or lose mine?

distantwolfx44

#12

distantwolfx44 said:

In the near future, I hope we get a third-person-shooter kind of Pokemon game and that would be amazing :D Or maybe a full-multiplayer Pokemon game(I would gladly pay for subscriptions for that) to actually give the players the true feeling of the "Pokemon Universe (not world because there are Pokemons from outer space)

Chunky_Droid

#13

Chunky_Droid said:

"Of course Pokémon don't exist in real life, they come from our imaginations [laughs] but we want to make creatures that are believable enough that could exist in real life!"

So why does Trubbish exist... cries

Sam_Loser2

#18

Sam_Loser2 said:

The X and Y axis! I KNEW IT! Everyone blabbing about gender and DNA, I knew what was really going on.

Zombie_Barioth

#19

Zombie_Barioth said:

@Haxonberik
I imagine they have something in mind for that, the Pokewalker was setup so you could recover Pokemon if the batteries died so they'll probably have something similar for recovering Pokemon. The Pokebank will likely be tied to the global link and your trainer ID too, so they could use that.

This was an interesting interview, I certainly wasn't expecting the theme for X&Y to be what it is. I guess it makes sense though since black and white where truth and ideals.

Interneto

#21

Interneto said:

@Sam_Loser2 the japanese boxart has a DNA pattern so it HAS to have something to do with it that is related to Megaevolutions... But the focus is on the axes. That's what it is.

DarkNinja9

#22

DarkNinja9 said:

lol at the last question guess it is confirmed they are trying to think of something for the Wii U but cant say anything more right now :P

but it still erks me when they come up with food pokemon how does those make sense -____-

smoozoid

#23

smoozoid said:

Great interview. I enjoy NintendoLife's coverage a lot. Thank you :)

I've dabbled with Pokemon since the original games but the 3D aspect of this game has just got me so excited! I can't wait to play on release day.

Blue_Yoshi

#24

Blue_Yoshi said:

@Chunky_Droid

Because he was one of the first American made Pokemon ever designed, along with its evolution, the Vanilluxe evolutionary line, and stunfisk. I see that guy really made an impact lol

Mr_3DS

#27

Mr_3DS said:

Great interview!

I preordered Pokemon Y and the Red Pokemon 3DS XL! I can't wait!

ollietaro

#28

ollietaro said:

I'm so disappointed about the non-3D overworld. I can understand that if only 1 can be 3D, then it has to be battles (ugh) but it's still a stinker. I will get the game reduced due to me trading in Animal Crossing, but still. At least our eyes get a rest and it did allow for more detail.

Sam_Loser2

#29

Sam_Loser2 said:

@Interneto This is true. It just that is what everyone was saying and I was shocked no one mentioned what was so obvious to me. (Even more so with it being on the 3DS)

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