What could Nintendo do with a new system that can't be done on the Wii U? Better looking visuals that increase development time and game budgets even higher?
QoL. Greater interaction between handheld and console games, something along those lines. Or they could surprise us with something else they haven't mentioned.
They finally got use to the time and money it takes for Wii U development, I don't think running back to that problem is a good idea.
No they haven't. They keep having to juggle 3DS and Wii U development cycles, and we've seen the result of that. Next gen is actually solving that with a merged architecture which allows them to release games quicker.
and saying there isn't anything the Wii U can't do that can't be done with a new console is a good point to keep the Wii U.
Not really. When they've exhausted the system's potential it bores the consumer. What would they even come out with to fill over 2 years?
They haven't exhausted the Wii U's potential. Then general consensus is that they still haven't used the GamePad to its full potential. We have no evidence that the Wii U hardware has been pushed to its limits either.
What could Nintendo do with a new system that can't be done on the Wii U? Better looking visuals that increase development time and game budgets even higher?
QoL. Greater interaction between handheld and console games, something along those lines. Or they could surprise us with something else they haven't mentioned.
QoL is adding another pillar to Nintendo's business, not going to be something that heavily relies on games. They can already do lots of interaction between the handheld and console games. Nintendo is good at surprises.
They finally got use to the time and money it takes for Wii U development, I don't think running back to that problem is a good idea.
No they haven't. They keep having to juggle 3DS and Wii U development cycles, and we've seen the result of that. Next gen is actually solving that with a merged architecture which allows them to release games quicker.
The merged systems is a rumor. At this point I can't see that working out as a lot of people have pointed out it would cause a lot of problems. Having to develop games for two systems is not a weakness, it is a strength. Not many companies can support two systems with unique and exclusives games as much as Nintendo can. While mixing the two would cause more games for 1 system, it also causes the problem of if that system fails they can't rely on another. The Wii U is fine until 2017.
People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...
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They haven't exhausted the Wii U's potential. Then general consensus is that they still haven't used the GamePad to its full potential. We have no evidence that the Wii U hardware has been pushed to its limits either.
They haven't done much with the Gamepad because there's not much to be done with it in the first place.
And you still haven't answered my question, what would they do to fill out the next few years.
The merged systems is a rumor. At this point I can't see that working out as a lot of people have pointed out it would cause a lot of problems. Having to develop games for two systems is not a weakness, it is a strength. Not many companies can support two systems with unique and exclusives games as much as Nintendo can. While mixing the two would cause more games for 1 system, it also causes the problem of if that system fails they can't rely on another. The Wii U is fine until 2017.
I'm not talking about merged systems. Nintendo themselves confirmed that they're working on a merged architecture/OS for both the console and handheld so that they can release games for both (this was back in the investor's meeting a year ago).
They haven't exhausted the Wii U's potential. Then general consensus is that they still haven't used the GamePad to its full potential. We have no evidence that the Wii U hardware has been pushed to its limits either.
They haven't done much with the Gamepad because there's not much to be done with it in the first place.
And you still haven't answered my question, what would they do to fill out the next few years.
There is plenty they can do with the GamePad. This year we are seeing Zelda, Star Fox, and Splatoon. Next year could easily have Metroid, Animal Crossing, and Punch Out.
The merged systems is a rumor. At this point I can't see that working out as a lot of people have pointed out it would cause a lot of problems. Having to develop games for two systems is not a weakness, it is a strength. Not many companies can support two systems with unique and exclusives games as much as Nintendo can. While mixing the two would cause more games for 1 system, it also causes the problem of if that system fails they can't rely on another. The Wii U is fine until 2017.
I'm not talking about merged systems. Nintendo themselves confirmed that they're working on a merged architecture/OS for both the console and handheld so that they can release games for both (this was back in the investor's meeting a year ago).
They talked about connecting the two systems more to better define the Nintendo brand and they spoke about combining their teams that focused on hardware and their teams that focused on software to make it easier for developers during transitionary periods.
People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...
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New hardware is coming, because it means more money. People get tired of the same old, same old. People who think it will be 6 years before the next console, and maybe even not a new console at all, are delusional. New generation, means a new innovation from Nintendo, and a new push for sales.
Just look at what they do with revisions on the handheld side. They are crazy for new hardware at NCL, and you'd be crazy to not believe you will see new hardware on the handheld, and console side, up until the day the company doesn't exist anymore (which will be never).
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New hardware is coming, because it means more money. People get tired of the same old, same old. People who think it will be 6 years before the next console, and maybe even not a new console at all, are delusional. New generation, means a new innovation from Nintendo, and a new push for sales.
Just look at what they do with revisions on the handheld side. They are crazy for new hardware at NCL, and you'd be crazy to not believe you will see new hardware on the handheld, and console side, up until the day the company doesn't exist anymore (which will be never).
Well new hardware is always coming, I just don't think it will hit the market until 2017. I could be wrong but that is my opinion.
People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...
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I'm just interested in the new fire emblem and zelda u. If Mewtwo isn't out yet E3 would be a perfect time for him to have a truely epic trailer. :3 I know the chances are small but I want
A new Final Fantasy, a remake of 5 or 6 or a new tatics would be awesome sauce
A new Metroid!
Star Fox release date
Zelda U release date
1. Metroid Prime Wii U announced with hostile planets in a ship (Corruption-style), hostile environments, and maybe some mass effect-like narrative elements. The narrative will be part of a larger story reboot getting away from the galactic federation and space pirate cliches and timeline weirdness, while still keeping Samus' origin story and metroids. Retro or another competent studio will make it. Finally, Samus will speak in a sassy fem-Sheppard-like-but-still-Samus way that will simultaneously make all of Star Citizen's thralls repent to follow the one true old god: Metroid and literally erase the mess of troublesome gender politics that was Other M from everyone's minds.
2. Paper Mario: the one with an actual story announced for Wii U, developed by Intelligent Systems, featuring a mix of Super Paper Mario-like platforming and RPG elements made new again (without slapping a sticker over them). Miyamoto is given a metaphorical viking funeral right after the announcement (in a replica of the King of Red Lions), then put in a box where he can't screw up anymore of Nintendo's best games.
3. More promising new and returning features are shown for Zelda U like: Shadow of the Colossus-esque boss battles, ice arrows, the grappling hook (not whip), the new sword combat, the new horseback combat, and an actual trailer showing an actual magical FANTASY world that starts a glorious rebirth of the genre ending only in Okami 7 (Okamidendendendendendenden). The trailer will followed by the obligatory Skyward Sword Seppuku (that's not racist, it's alliteration!).
That's all I want, after that all will be well with the world and they can announce all the New Super Star Nintendo Pilot/Sub Wii Sports Maker Resort Land: The Generic-ing bollocks they want without drawing my ire. (or any more of this partial-trolling!)
Wow did you just read my mind?
I do hope you guys got some enjoyment out of my rant, XD.
1: "Paper Mario U" announcement
2: New 3D Mario game that's original and not a sequel to any previous 3D Mario games (they can borrow gameplay elements)
3: GC VC on "Wii U"
I freaking hate when people start talking about next gen consoles, but holy crap, a next gen console that merges both handheld and home consoles together would be a dream come true! Imagine the Wii u gamepad, but much smaller. That could be the handheld part of the console. Then, it could be used to turn on the home console version, so that you could keep playing the same games, but with better resolution! Just take your game out of your handheld, and put it into your home console, and bam! Your playing on the tv now! And using your handheld as your controller! The graphical differences between the tv and portable could be the same as the display differences between the Wii u on the tv, and the gamepad.
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I freaking hate when people start talking about next gen consoles, but holy crap, a next gen console that merges both handheld and home consoles together would be a dream come true! Imagine the Wii u gamepad, but much smaller. That could be the handheld part of the console. Then, it could be used to turn on the home console version, so that you could keep playing the same games, but with better resolution! Just take your game out of your handheld, and put it into your home console, and bam! Your playing on the tv now! And using your handheld as your controller! The graphical differences between the tv and portable could be the same as the display differences between the Wii u on the tv, and the gamepad.
You do realize that you can sorta do that with PS4 Off-TV Play, Right?
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I freaking hate when people start talking about next gen consoles, but holy crap, a next gen console that merges both handheld and home consoles together would be a dream come true! Imagine the Wii u gamepad, but much smaller. That could be the handheld part of the console. Then, it could be used to turn on the home console version, so that you could keep playing the same games, but with better resolution! Just take your game out of your handheld, and put it into your home console, and bam! Your playing on the tv now! And using your handheld as your controller! The graphical differences between the tv and portable could be the same as the display differences between the Wii u on the tv, and the gamepad.
There are so many problems with that.
1. It would be expensive enough that they would have to sacrifice other features such as power, battery life, etc.
2. Games would be restricted by needing to be playable on a handheld. Motion controls or unique second screen features may be possible, but in a much more limited capacity.
3. Games are limited in ambition by the handheld system
4. The dual system functionality offers very little gameplay uniqueness in itself
Nintendo achieves the same effect without all the detriments if they sell a separate handheld and console, but maintain a degree of parity such that you can play simpler games on both systems, and add a Remote-Play like feature. Then they can get creative with the console and not take up costs with a feature not everyone will necessarily benefit from.
I freaking hate when people start talking about next gen consoles, but holy crap, a next gen console that merges both handheld and home consoles together would be a dream come true! Imagine the Wii u gamepad, but much smaller. That could be the handheld part of the console. Then, it could be used to turn on the home console version, so that you could keep playing the same games, but with better resolution! Just take your game out of your handheld, and put it into your home console, and bam! Your playing on the tv now! And using your handheld as your controller! The graphical differences between the tv and portable could be the same as the display differences between the Wii u on the tv, and the gamepad.
You do realize that you can sorta do that with PS4 Off-TV Play, Right?
I think he or she is talking about having the handheld naively play console games, instead or just streaming or remote playing it.
Are we REALLY expecting a new console? I mean, I WAS expecting a new handheld to be revealed, but with the New 3DS, I think we're gonna have to wait a bit. Not too mention that it isn't time to abandon the Wii U yet, despite many thinking it's a good idea (which it ISN'T).
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A new console? Let's wait until 2016 before we start speculating about Nintendo's next console. Same goes for the handheld, we just got the New 3DS give it a year or two at least. I'm thinking 2017 is the earliest we'll see Nintendo actually revealing their next console. It'll be a terrible move on Nintendo to just give up on the Wii U and dumb on us a new console for 2016.
That a side, what I want to see is VC for GCN that's compatible with the Wii U GCN adapter/conroller. I want to use it for something else besides Smash bros at least.
A more in-depth look on Xenoblade Chronicles X, this game is so huge. A release date would be great too.
More info on Zelda U it needs it, and a proper trailer. They can at least do that during E3.
More info on Star Fox and Zelda for Wii U. Perhaps even being playable at the show.
Surprise Metroid for Wii U announced.
Surprise F-Zero for Wii U announced.
I assume Yoshi's Woolly World will not be out by E3, but I'd like a release date at least (early 2015 Nintendo?? Hurry up then.)
Some other surprise that none of us will see coming
My game library ranges from Mario Kart to Call of Duty to Tales of Xillia to Diablo 3 to Forza. To me gaming is about having fun - not blindly supporting only one company while thumbing your nose at "the evil other systems."
Since the other thread got locked, I'll just copy my answer:
Same as always (i.e hoping for):
"We here at Nintendo are pleased to announce that Square Enix have stopped being massive idiots, and are now translating and localising Dragon Quest: [Anything] to western 3DS owners!".
Massive Applause, Half Life 3 releases, World Peace attained.
...But outside of that fantasy I'd say the only thing I'm really interested in is knowing when we're getting this new Fire Emblem, and hopefully more footage and information.
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