Topic: Wii U Console sales comparison

By 'fanboys' do you perhaps mean just average people who like to play videogames?

Basically, this. It's the exact same reasoning I used to figure that Wii U "not doing so well" in it's first year isn't that big of a deal. Everybody says Nintendo wasn't prepared and dropped the ball on year one by releasing the Wii U without any must have games, but it's just as possible that any money they've gotten from Wii U is better than what they would have gotten without the Wii U, which would be 0.

The Wii was falling, and they had to release something. At that point, anything is better than nothing, which is what alot of people fail to realize.

If you want to blame anyone, blame Nintendo. They're the one that promised a ton of Third-party support when the Wii U was first announced.

Relatively speaking, it got a ton of 3rd party support upon or soon after release. It's just that very few Wii U owners purchased the 3rd party games on the Wii U, so the 3rd party developers got shy.

So, more of a misjudgement on Nintendo's part, rather than any sort of blatant failure to even try.

So did the 3rd parties, soooo...

Sorry to break your delusion but the PS4 and Xbox One are both doing better than the Wii U in the states to, and the same trends in terms of what games sell happen happen between the UK and US (just replace games like Fifa with Madden and MBL: The Show) so you're almost saying that western taste in gaming sucks.

The wii u was a complete travesty and a poorly designed console with no games for almost 2 years. Come Smash Bros. 4, though through 2015, it's going to be very good. I sense a comeback and maybe them breaking 30 million lifetime units.

I'm still upset about club nintendo and the past several weeks of eshop though, but it's clear that until Smash Bros, nintendo doesn't really care about moving units .in the short-term, but rather 2015.

I feel bad for zombiu and w101. Both very well made games that didn't deserve to suffer, and I bought both even though I don't own a wii u yet (still hoping for a smash bundle limited edition set).

It is very true that Xbox One and PS4 are doing really well, but we don't actaully know how that compares Nintendo to Sony and/or Microsoft. If you're only comparing the base numbers, then you are doing it wrong.

I am not saying this is true for this case, but an example would be that 1 million sales of a particular item is better than 2 million sales of another particular item. It is just as possible for the product that sold less units to have made more money for said company. That is why saying PS3 was a huge success, based on sales numbers, is missing part of the equation that Sony took tremendous financial loss in the process.

PS3 may have outsold Xbox 360, but it didn't make more money for Sony than Xbox 360 did for Microsoft. The same goes for these newer consoles. PS4 is outselling everything, but Wii U is probably still making more money, although I will admit I don't have enough information to say that for sure. It is likely, though.

But we're not discussing what makes more money. The OP asked why Wii U isn't getting third party games. 3rd parties don't care if Nintendo is making more profit per console sold than Sony or Microsoft.

As for the doom and gloom... well, no consoles have sold more than the PS4 or Xbone at this stage of their lives. Even the Wii and PS3 hadn't managed to sell as many after 6 months. Of course that won't last, but for now, those two are BOTH huge successes, even if Sony are destroying MS. On the other hand, no console has ever sold less than the Wii U's 6 million after 18 months. It's not hard to see why one console gets more negative press...

Actaully I think Wii's sales were higher at this point. PS4 WAS outselling Wii, but now Wii is outselling again.

Also, 3rd parties should care about which console is making more money, because that shows Nintendo is a more stable company. Again, software sales on Wii U aren't even all that bad, considering they were cheap, and didn't require as many sales, as a result. If you compare 1 million sales of whichever game on Xbox 360 to 100,000 sales on Wii U, it's obvious which one sold less, but all factors considered, it actaully isn't a bad number.

The "NO GAMES" should not be used as an excuse anymore. The PS4 barely have good games going for it right now, and look at the sales. the difference is mind boggling. Personally, I think the reason why the Wii U is suffering is because of the Wii.

@Hy8ogen The only reason it sold and sells well now cause of hype people think this is the best thing and they believed it.So that's why people are buying it.

@midnafanboy Which brings me back to my point, the whole "no games", "game drought" is irrelevant. As long as there is enough hype, the sales will be generated. The Wii U basically have 0 hype when it came out. Heck I only knew about the Wii U after seeing it in Bestbuy in person like 4 months after it was launched. The PS4 on the other hand, man the hype was real. Sadly, I don't fall for hype. I'm still waiting for games I actually want to play before spending half a grand on a console.

However this whole hype technique seems to only work in Europe and America. Japan and the rest of Asia doesn't fall for this kind of stuff. And that's maybe why I didn't fall for it. LOL

So many people got burned by the Wii that they have given up on Nintendo. Only the most hardcore fans have purchased a Wii-U, while everyone else is getting an Xbox or PS4.

TBH Japan doesn't seem that interested in consoles period which makes me wonder what MGS V and FF15 will for the PS4.

Not just that. Imagine you're 15 years old when the 7th gen started. You kept hearing about the casual stuff going on with the Wii and how actual hardcore games are only on the PS360 (this is not true, but it is popular belief sadly). Now 8th gen come along and you are in your early 20s and got your own cash, which one are you going to buy? Add that to all the hype the PS4 and Xbone have. It was never a competition to begin with.

Nintendo made the right choice to release the Wii U a year early. If it was release simultaneously with the PS4 and Xbone, it's going to be annihilated. Remember, the casual audience that once got the Wii has moved on to something else (Yoga, Jersey Shore, whatever).

Now I love the Wii U to no end and I honestly think it will do fine this generation. With the 7 million install base, words will spread and with more advertisement and block buster games it should do alright. Remember folks, no one is going to get a trophy for who sells the most consoles. It's a business not a race. As long as Nintendo is making profit, we'll get all the games we loved as Nintendo fans. Or maybe one day Nintendo will flip the table AGAIN? Who knows. As long as I get the games I wanted, I'm happy

That's not really true. The "hardcore" fans of every console are really the only ones buying any of the consoles, right now. There are some people that may have been unexpectedly intrigued, but that's very few. This is the entire reason why Sony is saying that they are supposedly targeting the early Wii audience, because they want their console to appeal to a wide group of people, which just isn't the cae, no matter how you spin it, unless you want to say Disney Infinity on PS4 is a killer app. That game is on Wii U, too.

@SethNintendo Well, I'm not sure why I bought a PS4 besides some vague notion, it'll be a great system and Infamous 2nd Son.
I can tell you though why I bought a X1:
Halo 1-4 HD Collection, Halo 5, Crackdown 3, Sunset Overdrive, Scalebound, Phantom Dust, Quantum Break, Gears of War, Ryse, Dead Rising 3, Titanfall, Fable Legends (maybe)

Basically, I don't care who makes the system, as long as I enjoy playing the games. I love Remedy, so Quantum Break was a mus-have, I also love Gladiator/300/Spartacus ... Ryse is the defintive game to play, after you watched on of those movies, since it captures them to perfection. I'm also a big Insomniac and Platinum Games fan, hence Sunset Overdrive and Scalebound.

On a more general note, I'm aware that with some patience (like 2 years for Remedy once again probably) I could have played some of those games on PC, but I don't feel like investing into a new PC system anytime soon, since I can play the vast majority of games just fine, also I would still miss out on the likes of Scalebound and Sunset Overdrive, which are extremely unlikely to come to PC ever. Furthermore, I'm a sucker for Co-op games, after E3, I knew X1 would be, at least for 2014/15 the place to be, what comes after this is anyones guess. When a good friend of mine told me, that he was on board, we got a X1 each the weekend after E3, been playing Ryse, DR3 and Titanfall (which I had at first no intention of playing) ever since. My X1 got more use since E3 than my PS4 since release day ... I played Infamous, some BF4 (which is a mess), some Resogun and well Destiny Alpha/Beta on it, that'S it ... REALLY looking forward to Bloodborne ^^

By the end of the year, even my WiiU which I owned for like 8 months less, will without a doubt have gotten more playtime than my PS4. It'll be a close race between WiiU and X1, but since I fully intend to co-op Halo 1-4 with my friend and be all over Sunset Overdrive, later this year, I might turn out in favour of the X1. Still MK8 and SSB will see plenty of use also, not to forget I still have to finish Pikmin, ZombiU, WW101 and WWHD (though I might skip that, the non-invertible-camera, is a huge pain in the a** for me, which I HATE =[ )

To sum it up, right now I might actually rate the WiiU better than the X1, though I think by the end of the year, the WiiU will be a close second, due to the strong holiday line-up on the X1 (maybe Mighty Toad or Bayonetta will have something to say about this though?^^). One thing is clear though, PS4 is dead last. I probably get the KZ4 co-op dlc at some point, since like I said I love coop, and give Drive Club a test drive But I doubt either will have any significant impact on me, and I'm not aware of anything else worthwhile to be released on PS4 this year, it just a blank slate for me until 2015 basically. Just goes to show, that it'S only about games, if people really think their purchases through, everything else comes down to emotion, hype, social pressure, wishful thinking, expectations etc. ... take your pick!

Regardless of "doing better," whatever that means (Microsoft cutting what, 18,000 jobs? Sony continuing to bleed money? In the words of Santa, "You never can tell, kid"), I own an Xbox One, and most of the games I own ARE first-party OR console exclusive and are pretty darn awesome. Ryse, Forza, Max, and Crimson Dragon come to mind immediately, though I'm sure there are plenty more.