This got disgusting pretty fast. The bottom line is that Mario Kart DID help the Wii U. If you insist on constantly comparing that improvement to the other consoles, then fine, you'll find data and percentages to say "But it still wasn't as much as PS4/Xbox!" Excellent. But the bottom line remains: it helped the Wii U. Considerably. And it's selling pretty darn well in its own right as software. That's all there is to it.
@rallydefault No one is disputing that it helped improve sales but the console is still selling the least which isn't good after such a huge release.
@Cia Mario Kart 8 is selling well but what other Wii U game is in the charts?
It isn't about how Nintendo is doing as a whole but the Wii U that is what the OP was asking, the 3DS is doing fine everyone knows that and is likely to sell 60-80 million consoles (a guess) which is fine.
@SCAR392 Well the Wii U has the most exclusives so either you're saying that Nintendo exclusives don't appeal as much as they did in the past or 3rd party games are far more desirable to the general public. If the latter is what you are getting at it wouldn't make much of a difference if Wii U got inferior 8th gen ports as people want to naturally play the best version anyway.
@Jazzer94
It's a mixture of both. Alot of poeple that used to buy Nintendo games and systems moved on to PS and Xbox, and they did that because of games like God of War and Halo; not 3rd parties.
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@SCAR392 I have to stop you there people did not buy PS systems for god of war they bought it for COD and battlefield, cause they thought that's the best system to play those games. God of war is not a system seller, but halo is.
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@SCAR392 I have to stop you there people did not buy PS systems for god of war they bought it for COD and battlefield, cause they thought that's the best system to play those games. God of war is not a system seller, but halo is.
I'm talking more overall why people have bought PS consoles at any given time at all. Games like Ape Escape, Crash Bandicoot, Jak and Daxter, God of War, Killzone, etc. were real reasons why someone would have bought a PS console. Sony isn't really make those games, so the majority of games people look forward to buying are 3rd parties.
Halo is a system seller, but that's not all Microsoft is probably to make. If Microsoft announces a new Banjo-Kazzoie game, people are going to pay attention.
My point is more or less that exclusives matter, but people don't really care about Nintendo's for whatever reason.
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@SCAR392 Are you implying that most gamers migrated in 6th gen?
Well, considering Nintendo's numbers went down after SNES to N64 and GCN, those people went somehwere, and those people are still here. Console sale numbers have increased from generation to generation, so that only means more people are buying consoles overall, and which console they buy is only part of the story.
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The Wii U is struggling under a perception by the gaming press as being not next-gen, a kiddie machine, a gimmick that doesn't work, and all around not cool and out of touch with the latest trends. They also are suffering because Nintendo failed to deliver their entire launch line-up and are only just now getting titles out on a regular pace. Finally, they are struggling with a population used to Apple/Android markets where all their stuff is available wherever they are and Nintendo's DRM policies are anything but consumer friendly.
That is a lot of negativity even for a company as legendary as Nintendo to overcome.
This got disgusting pretty fast. The bottom line is that Mario Kart DID help the Wii U. If you insist on constantly comparing that improvement to the other consoles, then fine, you'll find data and percentages to say "But it still wasn't as much as PS4/Xbox!" Excellent. But the bottom line remains: it helped the Wii U. Considerably. And it's selling pretty darn well in its own right as software. That's all there is to it.
Thread title is Wii U Console sales comparison, so yes, it is being compared to PS4 and XBO.
By the way, for the week ending July 19, Wii U outsold Xbox One worldwide. Granted, that's with Japan's numbers, but it's unlikely that the XBO would sell enough consoles in Japan to make up the difference anyway.
Also worth noting is intent to buy. As for post-E3 consumer surveys, 20% say they have intent to buy a Wii U, a huge increase from pre-E3. The XBO also has 20% intent to buy. The PS4 is sitting at 28%. That's not set in stone at all, but it should be fairly indicative of how the consoles sell through the holiday season. You can bank on PS4 being the #1 console this Christmas, even with Nintendo having Smash coming out.
This got disgusting pretty fast. The bottom line is that Mario Kart DID help the Wii U. If you insist on constantly comparing that improvement to the other consoles, then fine, you'll find data and percentages to say "But it still wasn't as much as PS4/Xbox!" Excellent. But the bottom line remains: it helped the Wii U. Considerably. And it's selling pretty darn well in its own right as software. That's all there is to it.
Thread title is Wii U Console sales comparison, so yes, it is being compared to PS4 and XBO.
Uhm... yea, that's why I typed, "If you insist on constantly comparing that improvement to the other consoles, then fine ..."
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@Cia Mario Kart 8 is selling well but what other Wii U game is in the charts?
That's more an issue of a lack of releases than anything. Unless you're Minecraft or COD (and maybe Mario Kart?!) you don't appear in the top 10 3+ months after release.
Of course I find it difficult to trust those top 10s (even the NPD) sometimes because they suggest that very few people actually buy video games. (I think VGCharts says the top selling NA game 2 weeks ago sold like 30,000 or something, which I refuse to acknowledge in any reality)
This got disgusting pretty fast. The bottom line is that Mario Kart DID help the Wii U. If you insist on constantly comparing that improvement to the other consoles, then fine, you'll find data and percentages to say "But it still wasn't as much as PS4/Xbox!" Excellent. But the bottom line remains: it helped the Wii U. Considerably. And it's selling pretty darn well in its own right as software. That's all there is to it.
Thread title is Wii U Console sales comparison, so yes, it is being compared to PS4 and XBO.
Uhm... yea, that's why I typed, "If you insist on constantly comparing that improvement to the other consoles, then fine ..."
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Mind boggled
And if you insist on posting irrelevant, off-topic replies, maybe your energy would be better spent elsewhere than getting angry at discussions that you're not even contributing to.
We all know Mario Kart 8 improved Wii U sales, thank you for sharing. That's not what this topic is about though, so quit trying to derail the thread.
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@CaviarMets
If Mario Kart 8 boosting sales has helped Wii U surpass Xbox One sales, then it is relevant, because that is a reason why it sold more and changes the comparison. It is a sales trend, which is included in the comparison. Say when Sunset Overdrive comes out, and that boosts Xbox One sales, we are going to see how that makes Xbox One sales compare to Wii U sales. It's all on topic.
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This got disgusting pretty fast. The bottom line is that Mario Kart DID help the Wii U. If you insist on constantly comparing that improvement to the other consoles, then fine, you'll find data and percentages to say "But it still wasn't as much as PS4/Xbox!" Excellent. But the bottom line remains: it helped the Wii U. Considerably. And it's selling pretty darn well in its own right as software. That's all there is to it.
Thread title is Wii U Console sales comparison, so yes, it is being compared to PS4 and XBO.
Uhm... yea, that's why I typed, "If you insist on constantly comparing that improvement to the other consoles, then fine ..."
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Mind boggled
And if you insist on posting irrelevant, off-topic replies, maybe your energy would be better spent elsewhere than getting angry at discussions that you're not even contributing to.
We all know Mario Kart 8 improved Wii U sales, thank you for sharing. That's not what this topic is about though, so quit trying to derail the thread.
You're incorrect on all accounts. I don't know if you're the original person I was talking to - I'm not going to waste time to scroll back and see (contrary to what you say, I don't have tons of time to waste on a forum - a bit hypocritical that you seem to have plenty of time to make posts accusing me of it, though), but I posted a very topical reply to somebody who was basically stating that MK8 had little to no lasting effect on console sales. I argued against it. Somebody responded to my argument (maybe you), taking it entirely in the wrong context, and now here we are. Good day, sir/madam, but I don't enjoy being accused of things I'm not guilty of. Now let's go on our merry way.
This got disgusting pretty fast. The bottom line is that Mario Kart DID help the Wii U. If you insist on constantly comparing that improvement to the other consoles, then fine, you'll find data and percentages to say "But it still wasn't as much as PS4/Xbox!" Excellent. But the bottom line remains: it helped the Wii U. Considerably. And it's selling pretty darn well in its own right as software. That's all there is to it.
Thread title is Wii U Console sales comparison, so yes, it is being compared to PS4 and XBO.
By the way, for the week ending July 19, Wii U outsold Xbox One worldwide. Granted, that's with Japan's numbers, but it's unlikely that the XBO would sell enough consoles in Japan to make up the difference anyway.
Also worth noting is intent to buy. As for post-E3 consumer surveys, 20% say they have intent to buy a Wii U, a huge increase from pre-E3. The XBO also has 20% intent to buy. The PS4 is sitting at 28%. That's not set in stone at all, but it should be fairly indicative of how the consoles sell through the holiday season. You can bank on PS4 being the #1 console this Christmas, even with Nintendo having Smash coming out.
I think the WiiU sold more than XBO the week before that too.
@CaviarMets
If Mario Kart 8 boosting sales has helped Wii U surpass Xbox One sales, then it is relevant, because that is a reason why it sold more and changes the comparison. It is a sales trend, which is included in the comparison. Say when Sunset Overdrive comes out, and that boosts Xbox One sales, we are going to see how that makes Xbox One sales compare to Wii U sales. It's all on topic.
I've said this for a while- I think that the collective library will help over the long term.
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