What does it matter if Nintendo used to sell worse than say Xbox one? After MK 8 was released it's been on par with Xbox one what comes to worldwide sales. Stack a few more blockbusters like SSB and Zelda, and i don't see the Wii U taking a third place in this "race". Here's some VGCharz numbers from the latest worldwide sales: 3DS 126,388
PS4 98,406
XOne 63,521
WiiU 62,668
As you can see, the difference between the sales of Xone and Wii U are barely noticeable. Besides, if you combine the sales of 3ds and Wii U, it becomes clear which company is really leading the race at the moment.
Of course it does. UK has the worst taste in gaming.
The thing is Sony/Microsoft fanboys are the ones buying those consoles - and these fanboys like the third party games. because really, there aren't many first party titles on these consoles, and those that are there, kinda suck, so the third party games sell really well on the PS4/Xboxone. The Wii U is bought by Nintendo fans who like the first party games and by families who also don't like third party games that much.
Sorry to break your delusion but the PS4 and Xbox One are both doing better than the Wii U in the states to, and the same trends in terms of what games sell happen happen between the UK and US (just replace games like Fifa with Madden and MBL: The Show) so you're almost saying that western taste in gaming sucks.
Regardless of "doing better," whatever that means (Microsoft cutting what, 18,000 jobs? Sony continuing to bleed money? In the words of Santa, "You never can tell, kid"), I own an Xbox One, and most of the games I own ARE first-party OR console exclusive and are pretty darn awesome. Ryse, Forza, Max, and Crimson Dragon come to mind immediately, though I'm sure there are plenty more.
First I'll address the 18,000 job losses which I suspect is mostly related to Microsoft buying Nokia and in doing so getting an influx of employees they don't need (sad that these things happen but it is not a sign of financial troubles this is Microsoft we are talking about) second if you read the OP then you would know I'm referring to sales and third I wasn't saying the games are bad.
@Cia Although Wii U sales have improved a lot it stil being beat in terms of sales by the One if that keeps up it is going to get past Wii U total sales eventually.
Of course it does. UK has the worst taste in gaming.
The thing is Sony/Microsoft fanboys are the ones buying those consoles - and these fanboys like the third party games. because really, there aren't many first party titles on these consoles, and those that are there, kinda suck, so the third party games sell really well on the PS4/Xboxone. The Wii U is bought by Nintendo fans who like the first party games and by families who also don't like third party games that much.
Sorry to break your delusion but the PS4 and Xbox One are both doing better than the Wii U in the states to, and the same trends in terms of what games sell happen happen between the UK and US (just replace games like Fifa with Madden and MBL: The Show) so you're almost saying that western taste in gaming sucks.
Regardless of "doing better," whatever that means (Microsoft cutting what, 18,000 jobs? Sony continuing to bleed money? In the words of Santa, "You never can tell, kid"), I own an Xbox One, and most of the games I own ARE first-party OR console exclusive and are pretty darn awesome. Ryse, Forza, Max, and Crimson Dragon come to mind immediately, though I'm sure there are plenty more.
First I'll address the 18,000 job losses which I suspect is mostly related to Microsoft buying Nokia and in doing so getting an influx of employees they don't need (sad that these things happen but it is not a sign of financial troubles this is Microsoft we are talking about) second if you read the OP then you would know I'm referring to sales and third I wasn't saying the games are bad.
@Cia Although Wii U sales have improved a lot it stil being beat in terms of sales by the One if that keeps up it is going to get past Wii U total sales eventually.
There's a difference of about thousand units at the moment... may take a while before they get past the Wii U at that rate.
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I'm guessing those are sales after a month, so it would take 1000 months to pass Wii U, if they were only 1000 units difference every single time. It's just silly, though, because none of the sales will ever be that consistent, but generally speaking, PS4 and Xbox One have dropped to Wii U levels for the time being, so hopefully people stop saying Wii U is digging its grave or whatever.
PS4 isn't selling above the Wii rate, anymore, so hopefully people realize PS4 isn't guaranteed to be a best selling console like they blindly say it will. Might as well say PSP and PS Vita will outsell the DS and 3DS. Oh wait... Seriously, people need to STFU and just play their video games.
PS4 isn't selling above the Wii rate, anymore, so hopefully people realize PS4 isn't guaranteed to be a best selling console like they blindly say it will. Might as well say PSP and PS Vita will outsell the DS and 3DS. Oh wait... Seriously, people need to STFU and just play their video games.
That doesn't make much sense really seeing how PS4 has consistently sold more world wide than the Wii U and Xbox One but the PSP and PS Vita never sold more consistently then the DS and 3DS when trying to make a point at least have it make sense.
PS4 isn't selling above the Wii rate, anymore, so hopefully people realize PS4 isn't guaranteed to be a best selling console like they blindly say it will. Might as well say PSP and PS Vita will outsell the DS and 3DS. Oh wait... Seriously, people need to STFU and just play their video games.
That doesn't make much sense really seeing how PS4 has consistently sold more world wide than the Wii U and Xbox One but the PSP and PS Vita never sold more consistently then the DS and 3DS when trying to make a point at least have it make sense.
It does make sense. People assumed PSP and PS Vita would outsell DS and 3DS just as much as they did for the PS4. The only difference is that PS4 actually did sell more for a while, but now it's numbers are lowering, and that consistent sales count that made people think PS4 would "dominate" just isn't there anymore. As always, for the time being.
I'm not denying that PS4 is selling well. I'm saying that now it and Xbox's numbers are lowering, so maybe people will realize that everything is still fair game. How are we supposed to know that Smash Bros. won't get the Wii U above PS4 numbers during it's release month? How are we supposed to know that Hyrule Warriors won't compete against other games on Xbox and PS to get Wii U's sold? etc... That's why saying PS4 will "dominate" the sales chart the entire generation is annoying, at best.
PS4 isn't selling above the Wii rate, anymore, so hopefully people realize PS4 isn't guaranteed to be a best selling console like they blindly say it will. Might as well say PSP and PS Vita will outsell the DS and 3DS. Oh wait... Seriously, people need to STFU and just play their video games.
That doesn't make much sense really seeing how PS4 has consistently sold more world wide than the Wii U and Xbox One but the PSP and PS Vita never sold more consistently then the DS and 3DS when trying to make a point at least have it make sense.
Sony would have to mess up pretty badly to not dominate this console gen. Even if Wii U picks up, it's still going to be a secondary console for most people, who are going to be more interested in playing big third-party franchises like AC, GTA, CoD, Battlefield, etc. Moreover, even with considerable brand loyalty to Microsoft in the States, it's widely known that the PS4 is both significantly cheaper and more powerful than the XBone.
I'm not surprised sales are lowering for the new consoles right now. They're in that awkward zone where the hype for them is dying down, yet most of the big games are still being developed for them.
Sony would have to mess up pretty badly to not dominate this console gen. Even if Wii U picks up, it's still going to be a secondary console for most people, who are going to be more interested in playing big third-party franchises like AC, GTA, CoD, Battlefield, etc. Moreover, even with considerable brand loyalty to Microsoft in the States, it's widely known that the PS4 is both significantly cheaper and more powerful than the XBone.
I'm not surprised sales are lowering for the new consoles right now. They're in that awkward zone where the hype for them is dying down, yet most of the big games are still being developed for them.
Well, considering everyone thought PS Vita would "destroy" 3DS on hardware specs alone, and that didn't happen, I don't see why specs would matter to the majoirty of people as long as they are getting fun games on whichever console.
PS4 being "significantly more powerful" is not going to get PS4 Smash Bros, Zelda, Starfox, Gears of War, Halo, or even tremandously better versions of games that will also be on Xbox One. You literally have to be thinking of some imagined scenario where PS4 specs actually matter outside of the industry, because not all 3rd parties and consumers are going to buy or support these consoles, based off their spec sheet.
Well, considering everyone thought PS Vita would "destroy" 3DS on hardware specs alone, and that didn't happen, I don't see why specs would matter to the majoirty of people as long as they are getting fun games on whichever console.
PS4 being "significantly more powerful" is not going to get PS4 Smash Bros, Zelda, Starfox, Gears of War, Halo, or even tremandously better versions of games that will also be on Xbox One. You literally have to be thinking of some imagined scenario where PS4 specs actually matter outside of the industry, because not all 3rd parties and consumers are going to buy or support these consoles, based off their spec sheet.
Playstation consoles have proven to be "evergreen" machines. The PS1, PS2, AND PS3 have all sold extraordinarily well late in their life cycles. The PS3 is still outselling the Xbox One in 2/3 major markets. If the PS4 performs similarly (and as long as it brings the sequels, it will), its huge head start pretty much guarantees it being the #1 console this generation. Like Ral said, Sony would have to screw up pretty badly to lose the race.
The real battle will be between XBO and Wii U for 2nd place, though odds are pretty heavily in XBO's favour at this point. The best the Wii U can hope for is being the Gamecube 2.
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These topics are always hillarious, because all the marketing experts and excutives come out of their normal lifes as otakus, geeks, or whatever they are that need attention and seem to know it all.
I do care about sales, but as long as Nintendo turns a profit from the console and it gets games that I find appealing, I'm happy. Monster Hunter alone made my Wii U purchase worthy. So all the other games and apps are a plus.
TBH Japan doesn't seem that interested in consoles period which makes me wonder what MGS V and FF15 will for the PS4.
MGS I don't know. But FF15 will move consoles... Maybe when it is released in 2016, but it will!
I haven't gotten an Xbox One or PS4 yet, I do plan on getting one, probably the One. But mostly because of FF15, YES, I'll be buying a console just for one game... Same thing with Wii U, I bought it so early in it's lifespan without any price cuts, because of MH3U.
I'll come back when I see smoke and hear the gunshots, the speeches coming from COO's are boring.
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Well, considering everyone thought PS Vita would "destroy" 3DS on hardware specs alone, and that didn't happen, I don't see why specs would matter to the majoirty of people as long as they are getting fun games on whichever console.
PS4 being "significantly more powerful" is not going to get PS4 Smash Bros, Zelda, Starfox, Gears of War, Halo, or even tremandously better versions of games that will also be on Xbox One. You literally have to be thinking of some imagined scenario where PS4 specs actually matter outside of the industry, because not all 3rd parties and consumers are going to buy or support these consoles, based off their spec sheet.
Playstation consoles have proven to be "evergreen" machines. The PS1, PS2, AND PS3 have all sold extraordinarily well late in their life cycles. The PS3 is still outselling the Xbox One in 2/3 major markets. If the PS4 performs similarly (and as long as it brings the sequels, it will), its huge head start pretty much guarantees it being the #1 console this generation. Like Ral said, Sony would have to screw up pretty badly to lose the race.
The real battle will be between XBO and Wii U for 2nd place, though odds are pretty heavily in XBO's favour at this point. The best the Wii U can hope for is being the Gamecube 2.
PS3 was horrible for Sony as a business, though. They lost a ton of money on PS3. A headstart does not guarantee success(see Dreamcast). The fact that you are saying the best that Wii U can be is GCN 2 is massively selling it short and basically giving up any sort or rational that the Wii U could do well.
The discusion doesn't even petain to which console is selling the most. If the sales are as close as 10 million units as Xbox 360 and PS3 are, there aren't really any losers. The only problem is that Sony lost TONS of money to gather those sales, which is why Nintendo is still in a better financial position, despite selling less.
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The amount of people not playing the long term game for Wii U is sad. People should've learned after literally 1 game turned Nintendo entirely around but now that Nintendo is the main one pandering to kids AND women (by a country mile!), and realized they needed a new major IP, the fun begins.
It's stupid not to play the long-term game, since Microsoft and Sony have made it no secret they want their consoles to last a loooooooooong time. Which might be why the amount of next gen exclusives this year is embarrassing...
The amount of people not playing the long term game for Wii U is sad. People should've learned after literally 1 game turned Nintendo entirely around but now that Nintendo is the main one pandering to kids AND women (by a country mile!), and realized they needed a new major IP, the fun begins.
It's stupid not to play the long-term game, since Microsoft and Sony have made it no secret they want their consoles to last a loooooooooong time. Which might be why the amount of next gen exclusives this year is embarrassing...
This. Anyone who thinks the best Wii U can do is GCN numbers, basically have no patience to see how things ACTUALLY turn out.
This scenario is almost identical to how people thought DS and 3DS would turn out against PSP and PS Vita. People won't even fathom the possibility of Nintendo doing well.
If anything GCN is a worst case scenario, and that's even assuming people are putting that in context instead of just meaning it will sell a similar amount of units as 1. a gaming console that came out in 2001 and 2. Nintendo at their lowest point of relevance
If anything GCN is a worst case scenario, and that's even assuming people are putting that in context instead of just meaning it will sell a similar amount of units as 1. a gaming console that came out in 2001 and 2. Nintendo at their lowest point of relevance
That's basically the impression I'm getting from people. Everyone is assuming PS4 will be the next PS2, but it's not even keeping up with Wii lifetime average records anymore. I am pretty convinced that 2 of these console will stay at a reletively equal number, though. GCN and Xbox were only about 2 million units apart, Xbox 360 and PS3 ended up being close, and I honestly think Xbox One and Wii U will end up tying, and PS4 will fall behind.
As much as people will refuse to acknoledge that there is even a possiblity of PS4 selling less than either, that's honestly my opinion. I think we've gotten to the point where people know which console they want the most, and which console they want the second most.
People thinking PS4 is some sort of "God in a box", automatically throws Wii U and Xbox One into a closer race with each other, because now everyone involved is convinced that PS4 will win, and Wii U will mainly be competing with the Xbox One. With as much as peopl talk about spec mattering, it's probably the best that we just throw PS into the same mind share as PC and Steambox, because those same people expect the best version of the game, as well. I know I'm kind of rambling, but Xbox One being left as the "weaker" x86 console automatically takes it a step back from the PC crowd that PS4 is now putting itself into by deciding to care about specs, which is the main dispute among all 3.
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MGS I don't know. But FF15 will move consoles... Maybe when it is released in 2016, but it will!
I dunno. Japan is getting an exclusive MGS5 bundle, so that might help, but FFXV is so hard to guess at this point. Final Fantasy has lost so much value as a brand in the last generation. I'm not saying it can't rebound, but it's just not a guaranteed system seller right now. Last gen, every new Final Fantasy dropped about 50% in sales from the last. That's pretty terrible. All three PS3 games combined sold less in Japan than each of the PS1 games by themselves.
Finally dropping the Lightning arc that nobody cares about is a good move, but there still might be some lag before interest in the brand picks up again.
PS4 isn't selling above the Wii rate, anymore, so hopefully people realize PS4 isn't guaranteed to be a best selling console like they blindly say it will. Might as well say PSP and PS Vita will outsell the DS and 3DS. Oh wait... Seriously, people need to STFU and just play their video games.
That doesn't make much sense really seeing how PS4 has consistently sold more world wide than the Wii U and Xbox One but the PSP and PS Vita never sold more consistently then the DS and 3DS when trying to make a point at least have it make sense.
It does make sense. People assumed PSP and PS Vita would outsell DS and 3DS just as much as they did for the PS4. The only difference is that PS4 actually did sell more for a while, but now it's numbers are lowering, and that consistent sales count that made people think PS4 would "dominate" just isn't there anymore. As always, for the time being.
I'm not denying that PS4 is selling well. I'm saying that now it and Xbox's numbers are lowering, so maybe people will realize that everything is still fair game. How are we supposed to know that Smash Bros. won't get the Wii U above PS4 numbers during it's release month? How are we supposed to know that Hyrule Warriors won't compete against other games on Xbox and PS to get Wii U's sold? etc... That's why saying PS4 will "dominate" the sales chart the entire generation is annoying, at best.
Problem with this is no one was saying PSP ans PS Vita were going to sell more than DS and 3DS 6-12 months after both consoles for each generation were out because sales showed that wasn't the case where as now we've seen for 6 months the PS4 has completely dominated world wide sales for 6 months and is still selling the most now so is still dominating. Of course games can make a difference but we don't know what that diffence will be all we know are the cold hard facts that PS4 has been dominating and just like the Wii after launch it feels like the console that will runaway in the sales race with the rest playing catch up.
We're kind of getting off topic here. This started as a discussion of why the Wii U is getting negative press right now, and why it's not getting multi platform titles right now.
Scar, you act like you don't understand why people are already assuming the Wii U will come 3rd, but they just released their biggest game of the year, in a month where the competition had no new games, and still came 3rd. Right now, all we have is blind hope. There's very little facts to cling to that suggest the Wii U can turn around. If Mario Kart 8 can't get them ahead of the competition, then I really doubt games like Bayonetta 2, Hyrule Warriors and Captain Toad can. Smash will release in the holiday period, so it's going to be pretty hard to judge it's true effect, since during November and December, console sales typically increase anywhere from 5 to 10 times a regular month.
Wii U could turn it all around, but you can't blame people for looking at the facts and assuming the worst. None of us can predict the future, but it's still fun to discuss.
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