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Topic: What I do and don't like about Wii U

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Koos

Not sure if I like or dislike because it remains to be seen: true multitasking. The 3ds has the use of the notes and internet browser while a game sleeps and its also very nice how you can return to a game instantly from sleep mode. That is already a big step (for a videogame console...) The other consoles today have zero multitasking abilities. IOS also has pathetic multitasking.
The only device today capable of real multitasking is a powerful Android phone (other than PC's of course)... so you can browse play different games switch chat music pretty much everything and at the same time.

Koos

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LollipopChoSaw wrote:

I'll agree that some of these genres are the same experience regardless of touch-controls. However, do you mind giving me an example of a genre specifically improved by lack of buttons? I can't rightly think of one, though I am of course much more close-minded.

Here's an easy one: board games. Board games are designed entirely around the experience of interacting with the board via touch. That's why the iPad has become the default board game platform.

I'd also argue that strategy games are far better given that direct control over the units allows strategy to take over, and input becomes less important.

N'ah even for these genres having a mouse will be better. You move quickly over what you want and click. Same for point n click adventure. It is improved by either a mouse or a wii remote pointer (and any control like a dpad or stick is ok too). If you are already limited within a device that does not have these
.. I think that is why turned based games work so well on the DS because you dont need anything other than the buttons and d pad. Touch is inaccurate. Capacitive screens are more inaccurate than the DS or 3ds in my experience (there are technologies explanations to that). You'd note that the touch input is not exactly where the hit detection is.

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AlexSays wrote:

DudeSean wrote:

I've been dreaming of asymmetric gameplay since I was a kid

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Very odd kid you must have been.. lol

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Doubt that is odd in any way. It is the basic concept of Dungeons and Dragons with the DM and the players being on opposite sides. There were virtual reality attempts to simulate the pilot as one player and the shooting turret as the second player (like the Indiana Jones scene), pacman vs etc. The old game North and South had an asymetric mini game. This is a known evolvement for gameplay and it seems Wii U is the first console ever to really push this forward.

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Bankai

N'ah even for these genres having a mouse will be better. You move quickly over what you want and click. Same for point n click adventure. It is improved by either a mouse or a wii remote pointer (and any control like a dpad or stick is ok too). If you are already limited within a device that does not have these

Wait, wait, wait. You actually believe it is better to use an intermediary device to give you the ability to touch something, than to just, you know, touch it?

Brilliance! Now I know what we can use to fix the game of Chess:

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Yep, this will make things far easier than deigning to touch the pieces ourselves.

Oh! And why walk when you can use these instead of touching the ground?

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Capacitive screens are more inaccurate than the DS or 3ds in my experience

Lack of experience, more like.

I've never had any trouble being accurate on the iPad. Why, I even use it for photo manipulation and digital art.

I guess I must have superhuman powers. I'll call myself "TouchMan" They'll make movies about how I fight crime by accurately drawing lines on a touch screen.

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Like:MUCH BETTER games in general

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Koos

Yes its better to use a mouse or pointer. For starters you're not really touching its a digital approximation with accuracy issues. So yes its less accurate. Capacitive touch screens work by generating a small electric field on the screen, which is disrupted when the user touches the screen with their finger. The device then "approximates" the geographical center of the disruption, and uses this as a point of the input. My experience is backed up you see by science.

Your leg example was inadequate too. Ironically it is in fact better for example.the Army has designed robotic legs for the infantry. It is a device you wear and it allows you to carry huge amount of weight.
http://defense-update.com/features/du-2-07/infantry_load.htm

Here's the proper metaphor for you if you feel you must have one for some reason. You want to get somewhere fast and conveniently. You take the car. You don't walk. There are more straightforward examples. What's more accurate? Touch keyboard on the phone or physical keyboard aka your intermediary device it seems. There are reasons why there are typos here and I why I have to edit.

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kyuubikid213

LollipopChoSaw wrote:

I don't know about you, but I'd rather play a real board game. Buttons or touch screen, video game board games aren't fun if they are simply digital reiterations of the same board games in my closet. If they do something truly unique or interesting to the board game (Mario Party for instance) then great.

Because real board games have AI opponents and online multiplayer for those times you don't have friends and family around.

The whole point of a board game is to gather your family and friends together in a physical place to have a good time. Online with board games isn't dull, but once again, I'd rather play Monopoly with my family than some stranger in Bangladesh and as for AI, I don't like playing alone. The cold non-physical existence of some computer program does not simulate the warmth and joy of playing with my brother.

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kyuubikid213 wrote:

LollipopChoSaw wrote:

I don't know about you, but I'd rather play a real board game. Buttons or touch screen, video game board games aren't fun if they are simply digital reiterations of the same board games in my closet. If they do something truly unique or interesting to the board game (Mario Party for instance) then great.

Because real board games have AI opponents and online multiplayer for those times you don't have friends and family around.

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The whole point of a board game is to gather your family and friends together in a physical place to have a good time. Online with board games isn't dull, but once again, I'd rather play Monopoly with my family than some stranger in Bangladesh and as for AI, I don't like playing alone. The cold non-physical existence of some computer program does not simulate the warmth and joy of playing with my brother.

Oh, we'll then, clearly the way you like to play is the only way people can like to play board games. Thanks for pointing out that I'm only imagining that I'm being entertained by these "computer programs."

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k8sMum

not everyone has family to play board games with. should those that don't feel inferior to those that do? should they pass up a game form they enjoy? nonsense.

that is why options exist, to cover as many contingencies as possible. those that don't care for AI, don't freakin' use it. those that do, enjoy.

pretty simple, really. no need for all these knickers in a twist.

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Yeah let's all just get back on topic

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This is really partially my fault this has happened, but let's try to keep this on topic.
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Not to mention other people as well. Just saying.

But to get back on topic, what I like about the Wii U is that I know I'll buy it, just because every Nintendo I've bought so far has been worthwhile for me. Wii U appears that it will be worthwhile too, at least once Smash Bros. comes out.

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Mandoble

A mouse pointer (or a pen) is much less intrusive than your finger and much faster and accurate as well. iPads and similars were designed to have big icons or big controls to touch with your fingers and they are just averagely good only for that (that also includes board games as long as what you need to touch is big enough and clearly separated from the rest of touchable things).

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I like the concept of the Wii U very much and the games also. What I don't like about the Wii U is that it's not in my room this very moment...

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I not going 2 judge it until its released....

Pretty much the same here, but it does seem to be shaping up nicely. Who doesn't like 1080p HD?

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Trainer_DJ wrote:

GamecubeMan wrote:

I not going 2 judge it until its released....

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Pretty much the same here, but it does seem to be shaping up nicely. Who doesn't like 1080p HD?

People with stantard tv (SD standard Defintion) not me though

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ianh05

What I like:
1.The Wii U Gamepad which offer brand new gameplay and experiences.
2.It's getting more third-party support.
3.It's trying to attract more hardcore gamers with more mature games.
4.The number of day one releases, plenty of variety.
5.Free online gaming.
6.Backwards compatibility with Wii games.
7.more ports, gives players the option to own their favourite games on Wii U (which will provide a new experience due to the gamepad).

What I don't like
1.No multi-touch on the gamepad touch screen (it has pros and cons), that means we miss out on plenty of multi-touch gameplay like "squeezing" for example.
2.No pokemon game at launch (for shame nintendo!)

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