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Bankai

61. Posted:

LordOtakWiiU wrote:

@waltz yeh but none of the games I mentioned would even work with MULTI touch, I'm sure some games work with multi toch but the games us Nintendo fans like don't make since without buttons or more then single touch

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You do know that multi-touch devices, like, say, the iPad, is capable of playing games that only require single-touch controls, right?

It's the other way that doesn't work - the single touch 3DS could never hope to do a multi-touch game without moving some of the controls to buttons.

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62. Posted:

I'll let you have your iPad games on iPad if you'll let us Nintendo fans have our Nintendo games on Nintendo systems

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LollipopChoSaw wrote:

But there are entire genres where the experience is no different with touch screen controls, or in fact, improved. Board Games, Strategy Games, RPGs, Music games, Puzzle games, Point-and-Click adventure games.

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I'll agree that some of these genres are the same experience regardless of touch-controls. However, do you mind giving me an example of a genre specifically improved by lack of buttons? I can't rightly think of one, though I am of course much more close-minded.

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But here's the grand finale - I've seen people have a go at iPhone and iPad games for not having buttons, but praise any number of Nintendo DS games that are played entirely through the touch screen - like, say, the Zelda games.

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Oh, the Zelda games that are the least acclaimed? Because of touch controls? Hmm. I agree hypocrisy is about, but even in these examples touch control is still met with negative response.

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Actually, Otaku listed a whole bunch of games that not only are perfectly enjoyable without buttons. Many of them don't even use buttons on the DS

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I'd like to take a look at this list. Would you mind giving me a link?

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Can you see why I don't see the value in coming up with a serious response to this?

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Serious? Yes. Hostile? No.

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64. Posted:

@Tyson I did list touch only Nintendo games that do make since, but my point is Mario bros, and a ton of other nintendo stuff cant be used with just touch only, but games like EBA, and a few kirby DS games work

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65. Posted:

I'll agree that some of these genres are the same experience regardless of touch-controls. However, do you mind giving me an example of a genre specifically improved by lack of buttons? I can't rightly think of one, though I am of course much more close-minded.

Here's an easy one: board games. Board games are designed entirely around the experience of interacting with the board via touch. That's why the iPad has become the default board game platform.

I'd also argue that strategy games are far better given that direct control over the units allows strategy to take over, and input becomes less important.

Serious? Yes. Hostile? No.

Given that you yourself use sarcasm, I'd be careful before labelling sarcasm as "hostile." Wouldn't want anyone to think you're a bad guy, too. ;)

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66. Posted:

I find there is a difference between using sarcasm to prove a point than using it to put someone down.
Saying

You're right. Chess is clearly not a game.

makes you sound a bit more condescending than tongue-in-cheek. I'm not saying sarcasm is hostile, you use it all the time and it's fine, just when directing in a way that could make someone feel stupid/bad about themselves isn't proving your point any.

Of course, maybe I'm reading the wrong emotion from it. The internet is great for words, not so much for expressions. :P

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67. Posted:

Does this thread title remind anyone else of the song "What I Like About You" (or is it "what i hate about you")?

Edit: Hey, has my avatar changed for anyone? I changed it under "Edit Profile", but even after deleting all of my NL cookies it's still Maxwell from Scribblenauts.

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68. Posted:

I'm not sure yet if I like it or not, but I'm really fascinated by Nintendo's trying to do with its online network. They're in a really odd position. I found a pretty interesting article about it here: http://press2reset.com/2012/07/02/analysis-can-nintendos-onli...

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69. Posted:

TinyOddy wrote:

Does this thread title remind anyone else of the song "What I Like About You" (or is it "what i hate about you")?

Edit: Hey, has my avatar changed for anyone? I changed it under "Edit Profile", but even after deleting all of my NL cookies it's still Maxwell from Scribblenauts.

Yep. If you want to see your avatar change you need to clear your cache, not your cookies. :3

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70. Posted:

Actually, it wasn't showing up due to a glitch in the system. TBD removed Maxwell for me, and when I tried it again it worked. Thanks for the cache tip, though.

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71. Posted:

This is getting a wee bit out of hand guys. I am witnessing is arguments spiked by post-by-post reactions. We all need to see what we are arguing from a bigger picture.
@LordOtakuWiiU Please understand that Waltz doesn't like the fact that the iDevices are put down as devices unsuitable for playing video games. What point are you trying to get across with your posts? You don't believe that the iPad is the gaming system to go? Are you tired of people bashing Nintendo?
@Emaan Waltz does not mean to bash Nintendo. The iPad can be a capable game device for certain experiences, and he just wanted to point that out.
@Waltz Tyson Q7 has a point. Please remember that not everyone here are extremely intelligent, analytic people. Yes people can be very close-minded, but if you work your way to them, you could win their hearts ;)

We should get back on topic if possible...

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72. Posted:

Ok ok, but he did make the comment of Nintendo being bought out by apple, so I tried to give him my thoughts as to why it wouldn't work, I have no problem him liking iPhones (I do as well like idevices) it's just he tries to make it seem that Nintendos doomed and that apple will take over Nintendo, which I (along with many others) do not want

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73. Posted:

I just don't see why @Waltz has to claim that the Wii U is doing nothing new. Like his iPad can do all these things already, when it can't. He isn't bashing Nintendo, @bobbiKat, but he clearly is bashing the innovation of the Wii U.

Edit : I'm deleting my posts and heading out of this thread, while I can. Its kinda annoying.. :|

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74. Posted:

bobbiKat wrote:

Please remember that not everyone here are extremely intelligent, analytic people.

I approve of this message.

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75. Posted:

@LordOtakuWiiU He is only speculating the possibility of acquiring Nintendo. Actually, he isn't optimistic about the whole game industry in general, whether it be the developers or console makers. For all we know, the entire industry may be doomed. He even spoke of the possibility of Apple acquiring Sony in his website. So, what if Apple acquires Nintendo? Will Nintendo stop manufacturing consoles and resort to the iOS platform, or, will Apple let them operate as they always did and go as far as to supply them more capital and financial backing? Whatever it be, we can't jump right to conclusions if this ever occured and it was first anncounced. We all need to know that Apple is a very successful company that they are one of, if not, the most profittable company in the world. They are very capable of acquiring a large company as we speak. The pont is that we, as gamers, might just have to accept the reality that this is possible. I, for one, don't like Apple and their pretentious marketing, but I have to acknowledge that they are very successful. Does this make sense?

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76. Posted:

TinyOddy wrote:

Actually, it wasn't showing up due to a glitch in the system. TBD removed Maxwell for me, and when I tried it again it worked. Thanks for the cache tip, though.

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77. Posted:

Still kinda wish motion controls were optional. But I do like the tablet idea.

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78. Posted:

LollipopChoSaw wrote:

Here's an easy one: board games.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather play a real board game. Buttons or touch screen, video game board games aren't fun if they are simply digital reiterations of the same board games in my closet. If they do something truly unique or interesting to the board game (Mario Party for instance) then great.

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I like how it is going to be a giant DS in my living room.
The more traditional controller.

More Dislikes
How NintendoLand seems to be centered around asymmetric gameplay and I only have one Wii Remote.
How (as of now) ZombiU doesn't have Wii Motion FPS Controls.

I know it seems like a contradiction, but I tried playing a Wii game that used the CCP instead of the Wii Pointer controls and for the most part it worked, but I felt like I had more control with the pointer controls.

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79. Posted:

I don't know about you, but I'd rather play a real board game. Buttons or touch screen, video game board games aren't fun if they are simply digital reiterations of the same board games in my closet. If they do something truly unique or interesting to the board game (Mario Party for instance) then great.

Because real board games have AI opponents and online multiplayer for those times you don't have friends and family around.

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80. Posted:

@edhe Lol. Mine was debatably less iconic, though.

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