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i dont understand this. people say you can play ps4 games with this thing? HOW? stream? a while ago most people were saying that streaming is stupid and wouldnt work (onlive). now all of the sudden it is the best thing ever? wth?

Huge difference there.

Onlive is online streaming.

The PSV TV uses a connection between the Ps4 and itself to stream (kind of like WiiU & the GamePad). You need a Ps4 to stream Ps4 games from what I understand.

What's great about it is that for a budget price you can essentially get a "second Ps4" that also plays Vita titles in your home.

So you can stream console games from a console to another handheld console that uses the TV. SO EXCITING! :D

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How exactly does this save the vita? You still have to pay $200 for the handheld console ;)

But It'll allow the Vita more support, since this thing will play Vita games on its own while being significantly cheaper. It'll increase the install base, hopefully by a large margine, so developers/publishers will have a greater incentive to put games on the Vita.

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I dunno. I just think it's ironic that a handheld may have to rely on TV gaming (console gaming) to be successful. Coincidentally, I thought Vita was more of a console than a handheld :$

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Why do I get the strange feeling that most Sony fanboys are corporate minions?

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45. Posted:

Aren't all fanboys like that?

Oh hey. I just noticed that the PSV went full 0DS.

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You know what will save the Vita? Making people spend more money.

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Gregor wrote:

Why do I get the strange feeling that most fanboys are corporate minions?

Fixed that for you

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48. Posted:

Seems like many people are missing the point of this device.

It's a cheap way to interest people who aren't already invested into the PlayStation ecosystem. It can be positioned as a cheap video streaming box or a budget gaming option. It will appeal most to people who want access to games they have no other way to play, although there are added benefits for existing Sony gamers who want convenient access to their games on multiple TVs in the house. Best of all, the buy-in price is extremely low* - just right for the casual market where sliding in under the $100 barrier is crucial.

There are definitely questions and potential problems... but if marketed well this device could introduce a lot of people to Sony gaming.

*One issue I have with pricing is that no controller or games are included by default. If Sony intends to position PS Vita TV as a video streaming box, there needs to at least be a cheap/simplified remote available for that express purpose.

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You know, I started thinking and... If this thing picks up... Couldn't it potentially destroy the PS4's market?

It's dirt cheap, it is (digitally) retro compatible with PSO and PSP games (and you can redownload them i you have bought them before), it will continue to be supported with cheaper ports of next gen games and it just seems a lot more convenient from a customer's point of view.

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ScroogeMcLz wrote:

Gregor wrote:

Why do I get the strange feeling that most fanboys are corporate minions?

Fixed that for you

I just get this strange... vibe from Sony Soldiers. Like they are always focused on what Sony can do for more money. That's a good fanbase. Now they just need to bite Sony's legs so it will look to the ground.

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I'll probably pick this up too. I play games on portable devices because that's the only way to do so - I'd vastly prefer to game on my TV. Plus, this gives me a way to play Ys 7 on my TV, which is basically the most important thing I could ever do.

All of that said though - the main advantage to a Vita going forward, as far as Sony wants the world to think, is the PS4 / Vita crossplayability / streamability... and I can't say this device is gonna help that situation much. Especially if people buy it instead of the handheld Vita.

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ejamer wrote:

*One issue I have with pricing is that no controller or games are included by default. If Sony intends to position PS Vita TV as a video streaming box, there needs to at least be a cheap/simplified remote available for that express purpose.

There's a bundle that comes with an 8 GB Memory card and a controller that's only about $50 more - cheaper than buying a controller seperately, and you get a free memory card. That's definitely the one I might buy for my brother if it ever comes out over here.

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I think people are missing a massive point to do with streaming, it means the indie/PS4 games don't have to be played in the house. This is one thing i don't get with the Wii U's off TV play, i don't see the point in it. Your still in the house you might as well keep it on the TV, but if it was portable that would be a different story.

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What has anything of that to do with the Vita TV?

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You know, I started thinking and... If this thing picks up... Couldn't it potentially destroy the PS4's market? ...

For some customers, PS Vita TV will be good enough to destroy their need for a PS4. But I don't think Sony should be worried - the vast majority of those people wouldn't be spending $400+ for a brand new, top-of-the-line console anyway. It's two separate markets, and this product should let Sony profit from both types of people.

The benefit of PS Vita TV is that it gets people invested in the Sony ecosystem and lowers the barrier of entry for other Sony products. If you already have a couple of Vita games, getting an actual (ie: portable) Vita seems more appealing. If you already have some controllers on hand, buying a console becomes that much easier.

Using this as a Trojan horse to introduce people into the Sony brand is a great idea in my opinion.

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56. Posted:

moomoo wrote:

Okay, I'm buying that sucker. Persona 4 Golden, Gravity Rush, and WipEout, here I come!

The video is down, but I'm assuming this thing can connect to the internet?

Wifi and ethernet port.

I think this is a nice addition, even if I already own a vita. As for the vita game resolution, games that run in full vita resolution (KZ Mercenary comes to mind, idk if it'll be compatible though.) will look good on an HDTV. It's slightly higher resolution than the Wii at least!

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For people who already own a PS3, the can get the $100 version and a 8GB memory card for $120 combined. That looks like a pretty cheap way to be able to play Vita games(and some PSP games). I think this will give the install base a pretty good boost. It will be even more enticing to PS4 owners as the DS4 will have the touchpad and they will get the streaming feature too. Vita might really make a comeback here.

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Morphtorok wrote:

You know, I started thinking and... If this thing picks up... Couldn't it potentially destroy the PS4's market?

It's dirt cheap, it is (digitally) retro compatible with PSO and PSP games (and you can redownload them i you have bought them before), it will continue to be supported with cheaper ports of next gen games and it just seems a lot more convenient from a customer's point of view.

Not a chance. They're completely different markets. One plays PS1, PSP, Indie and some PS Vita games and costs very little money, the other plays PS4 games and will stream PS3 games. Very different audiences there, especially with one costing less than half the price of the other (and that's for the more expensive version).

This is a fantastic idea by Sony. It allows for them to expand the game selection for the PS Vita, and will make it so that people will build up a library of games that will be supported on their future platforms (like PS1 games, and if they do another handheld, then PSP and Vita games). For the people who wanted to play a few of the games on the Vita but couldn't justify spending $250 on it (like me) this allows for you to just jump into that system and play its games.

As for the touch games, I'd imagine that's why the touchpad is on the dualshock 4. I can't think of why Sony would put something so gimmicky on such a traditional controller otherwise. If that's the case, that shows some very good foresight on their part.

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59. Posted:

Does the dualshock 4 have a touchscreen on the front and a touchpad on the back?

I hope developers won't start to ditch touch control options just because of this.

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fyi, gravity rush isn't THAT great. It's quirky, and the first 2 hours are fun... But I'm convinced that they never got around to hiring a design team. Some of the most elementary design mistakes this side of an NES game... Wait til you attempt a trial and want to retry it.

Concept is pretty cool though, and cutscene presentation is AWESOME. If only the content in said cutscenes wasn't such an utter waste of time...

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