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theblackdragon

121. Posted:

@AnActualDash: With all due respect, I didn't find it 'hilarious'. I don't make jokes at your expense or insult you in serious comment threads like this one, and frankly I expect the same courtesy — as do all your fellow users. Knock it off, please.

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122. Posted:

Alright already. If people can't take my sense of humour, then I'll stop.
People need to learn how to take a joke.

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123. Posted:

@AnActualDash: I like how it's the fault of the person you insulted that your 'joke' at their expense was not found to be absolutely hilarious. Please, tell me more about how i should learn to laugh when I've been insulted instead of oh, i dunno, maybe you owning up to it, apologizing for having been rude in the first place, and then moving on with the actual topic at hand.

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124. Posted:

I'm sorry. And no thanks, I'd really rather shut my mouth than express my opinion and get prosecuted for it.

Rest assured I'm not going to do that again. Or, if you want, you can just ban me for hurting you accidentally. Whatever you feel like doing, I guess. It's not like I'm important or anything.

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125. Posted:

AnActualDash wrote:

I'm sorry. Rest assured I'm not going to do that again.

Fixed that for you; that's all you had to say. Thank you.

Now, if anyone would like to move on with the actual topic at hand, that would be awesome. Any further off-topic remarks and/or insults toward others will be edited or deleted. Thanks in advance everyone! :3

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126. Posted:

Wow this discussion got out of hand quickly...

TysonOfTime wrote:

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Sounds like a utopia. Mind taking me with you? :P

If you're serious, it's Destructoid. It's a nice news site, good reviews, great personalities, and from what I've seen, the best comment section on the internet. It has its share of fanboys of every corner, but most of the time there's either reasonable or hilarious discussions. They have forums, but the comment section has enough discussions that I've never even touched them.

I went to Destructoid's forum once years ago, but I don't recall it having a very friendly atmosphere, though. I don't know how it compared to the comment section years ago, either. Maybe it's improved? Guess I'll keep it in mind if I ever get the urge to go forum hunting again.

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I can understand why some people might dislike the fanservice. Hell, I don't care much for anime fanservice, either, though I do tolerate it. Nobody has to like it, and it's only my opinion, built from my own limited experience, that it doesn't effect people.

However, as has been said numerous times throughout the thread, this game really isn't that bad. It's T for teen, and I don't think minor innuendo, pantie-shots and bouncing breasts are gonna do more to teenagers than make them giggle. I've seen far worse examples out there of objectification in various media from all parts of the world, even for stuff aimed at younger audiences (hell, I grew up watching some of that stuff. I often question how Sailor Moon and Space Jam ever got approved for kids). You don't have to like it, but it's really not much of a problem.

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127. Posted:

Ok, so you think its bad and don't like it. Now why do you think that NOONE should be able to play it? Why do people think that their opinion of something should affect everyone else? How about focusing your energies on things that actually are harmful to kids, instead of something some kid may or may not see.

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128. Posted:

This game is kind of an interesting case. At first glance, I thought it was satire. It looked as if it was making fun of how Japanese media loves to please its audience by going to any ridiculous means necessary, to the point of integrating fanservice into the game mechanics.

However, after looking at the developer comments... I don't think this was intended to be satirical. It's doing what it does because the developers like this kind of stuff. So now I don't know what to think, because from that perspective, I find it to be kind of weird. Sort of how I used to look at Dead or Alive. At first I thought the series was making fun of people to a certain extent that would buy scantily-clad figurines. After all, the character models looked like Porcelain dolls, not people. Then Dead or Alive 5 came out and the girls looked more realistic, which changed things from looking funny to kind of creepy, since the fanservice remained. Which then made me look at Team Ninja as a bunch of kind of creepy people. If it weren't for DOA 5's fantastic mechanics, I might not have gotten over it.

So yeah, I really don't know. On one hand, it kind of reminds me of that terrible Arnold Schwarzenegger movie, "Jingle All The Way," in that it was unintended satire. On the other hand, this is kind of a creepier subject matter.

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129. Posted:

I guess I could be called opposed to it, but it's not morally. After reading the manga adaptation, I absolutely loathe the characters. They're pathetic in the extreme. Bleh.

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130. Posted:

Wonder what the reaction will be if Toushin Toshi ll came over to the West?

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131. Posted:

O.K, I take back what I said about the Final Fantasy thread earlier: THIS is the most entertaining thread we've had on here in a while.

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132. Posted:

I'm getting the vibe that I should wait for a sale to get this.....

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133. Posted:

Ralizah wrote:

PorridgeParlour wrote:

Lets be honest everyone... It's a little silly to think that there is no possible way for SK to be a gateway to hard porn.

Do you have even a scintilla of proof for this claim, or are you just stringing words together for the fun of it?

And why does hard porn need a gateway?

I don't understand what you wrote. Do I need proof to say that SK could possibly lead to more perverse things? Stringing words?
Why does hard porn need a gateway? That makes no sense. Everything has a gateway.

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Super_Gravy

134. Posted:

Keep in mind that Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony do not want adult contents on their console. So only way the game will include adult contents by releasing on PC only. I'm not sure about Steam policy to be honest.

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Xiao_Pai

135. Posted:

Who cares, its a video game, enjoy it or move on...kinda like with anime.

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136. Posted:

PorridgeParlour wrote:

Ralizah wrote:

PorridgeParlour wrote:

Lets be honest everyone... It's a little silly to think that there is no possible way for SK to be a gateway to hard porn.

Do you have even a scintilla of proof for this claim, or are you just stringing words together for the fun of it?

And why does hard porn need a gateway?

I don't understand what you wrote. Do I need proof to say that SK could possibly lead to more perverse things? Stringing words?
Why does hard porn need a gateway? That makes no sense. Everything has a gateway.

In other words, do you have any justified reason to believe that playing Senran Kagura will lead to "more perverse things?"

Moreover, why is it even "perverse?" What qualifies as "perverse?" Anything containing some level of fanservice? Does classic cheesecake from World War II count as something perverse?

Not in my experience. I didn't need some sort of intermediary between innocence and porn consumption when I was a youngin'. I hit puberty, stumbled across a Sailor Moon hentai site purely by accident, realized that it was the most amazing thing I had ever seen in my young life, and it all went from there. Do you have any proof that there needs to be some sort of "gateway" to hard porn consumption?

Look, if you want to make claims, you ideally need some reason for believing those claims. Those claims require justification of some sort.

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Super_Gravy

137. Posted:

@Mizore: I guess they care because they don't want to see those contents in eShop when they are browsing the online shopping.

Now I mention it, maybe the new solution to have parent control for consoles or services to EXCLUDED the contents in the shop rather than preventing users to access it.

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Xiao_Pai

138. Posted:

Its not like they'll be able to see anything on the eShop without downloading a demo or watching a video...and that's where the lock would come in, lol

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139. Posted:

De-listing from the eShop would outright prevent sales, even under parental consent. Not a viable option.

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140. Posted:

I'm actually disliking this thread wayyy more than the number of negative Wii U threads on this site.
Senran Kagura isn't being offensive to anybody! There's wayyy worse games than Senran Kagura! Sheesh!
If I was a woman and I saw Senran Kagura.... I would actually laugh at the game because of how silly it is!
I'm outta here.

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