I don't understand how Street Fighter 6 was a Switch 2 launch game while the porting process of Tekken 8 to the console has yet to begin. And I refuse to believe that Namco Bandai doesn't have multiple dev kits
I'm not going to lie, I'm a bit disappointed that DLSS is needed to have the game running at all at sub native resolutions without any ray tracing. When one read the Switch 2 specs sheet, they should understand that it can do 4k or 120hz or ray tracing in really demanding games. Now, how is Star Wars Outlaws going to run considering ray tracing can't be disabled in that game?
The weakest part of Breath of the Wild was the breakable weapons. So I'm a bit worried that the Master Sword will be unusable until the endgame and every other weapon breaks after a few hits. It would be really annoying
As someone who embraced cloud gaming since its infancy with OnLive, I must say that every cloud game sucks on Switch. This new Guardians of the Galaxy one is no exception. It was blurry and laggy on my Switch OLED screen. Same thing for Control, which I "own" when and tried it on the OLED a few days ago.
These games do too little for the price. They're only really playable in dock mode and even then, they lack any kind of support for core Switch features like gyro aiming and HD rumble
@NicheAbou It depends on the game. For instance, my optimal settings for The Witcher 3 are 720p , no anti-aliasing and low sharpness whereas Crysis Remastered looks amazing in 1080p.
I might get this game just to have a wireless camera for my Switch and take photos and videos of things and people and share them via the console's album.
The only flaw that this review and the previous one present to justify the 5 points score is the lazy port accusation. The algorithm isn't complicated at all. It's crystal clear. The 2 reviews are focused on one thing: these wiiware versions are lazy ports. They both end up with a 3points down score compared to the DS versions. So, we can say that lazy port = 3 points down. If things turn like Ezekiel says, the 3rd game will receive the same score.
But there a problem with that affirmation: "A score simply represents at a glance how this game stacks up against other Wiiware games." Honestly, tell me which wiiware game can be compare to Ace Attorney? "Aha, I got it"? Does waggling and pointer support and a higher native resolution make it a better game than Ace Attorney? seriously?
@Gizmo: "Was it really so hard (for this high price) not to make the game better?" You're mistaken here. Only the presentation could have been far better. A higher screen resolution cannot make a game better. ( I wasn't expecting to have to explain that to a wii owner ).
@Gabbo: Ok, so it's pure coincidence if the 2 wiiware games end up with the same score with reviews that are heavily focused on the fact that they are lazy GBA ports.
We all know that the 3rd episode will be ported the same way. So, if it also end up with a 5 or below, you have to admit there is a problem.
I agree that wiiware is not the place where you expect to find ports of handheld games. But, as I said GBA nor DS are not gonna be on VC. So, why on earth anyone who still have to play Ace Attorney should not welcome this series for the gem it is? There is absolutely nothing approching on wiiware. And, once again, is there a law to force developers to use "what the wii has to offer" in every wiiware game?
If such a law exist, I wish it would apply to retail games too, and the producers of Resident Evil: Archives would be in jail.
@theblackdragon: "Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney" Where do you see a disguise in this title? I known what I am about to play given this title. I recognise this is an hybrid form between VC and wiiware but how does it interfere in the games inner quality?
"A VC game stands for originality, and you want a VC game to be the original one. For a WiiWare game you simple can and have to expect more."
Is that a kind of universal law? Because I don't agree at all. Wiiware is the perfect place to release ports of games whom original platform is not present on VC. Since GBA is not present on VC (and DS will never ever be) Ace Attorney had to be on wiiware, even if the games are straight ports. It doesn't alter their quality in any way.
For those who complaint about poor graphics and no pointer support, I guess the DLC case will be enhanced at least in the DS style.
@Gizmo: So, what you're saying is if Capcom had managed to port this to the SNES emulator on VC the result would have been acceptable. But since it's on wiiware, it's not acceptable anymore? Let's being honest, it's barely the same game than DS or GBA version. And if they had released it on VC, they couldn't have add the fifth case in the first game since VC doesn't support DLC in any way.
@theblackdragon: For someone who hasn't played them yet on GBA or DS, (a few millions people amho) these games are both new and awesome. The review is not bad but the lazy port does not justify the 3 points drop.
@theblackdragon: What you forget is the fact that many people who have a wii and play wiiware games don't own a DS. So, when Capcom decide to port a series like Ace Attorney to wiiware, they kind of forced to begin with the beginning. I enjoy these wiiware ports so much that I hope they will port Miles Edgeworth as well.
Let me sum up your point of view: When you port a game to VC, it's a good thing that you don't alter the game in any way. But when you do exactly the same thing and upload it in the "wiiware" folder instead, you become a lazy greedy thief? Am I correct?
Well, what Capcom should have done? Wait for Nintendo to add a GBA category to VC? It's more likely that they create a VC on DSi with GB/GBA games so wiiware players would have never get a chance to play that game.
And for those arguing it should have been a port from the DS version, you have to be aware that Nintendo would have never let people play DS games on Wii. It would be a major commercial mistake to let people access to the same game at a cheaper price than the retail DS version.
And don't forget, the games do have wii exclusive functions: motion controls to object and submit evidence and the wiimote speaker support. So you can't say it's a 100% direct port from GBA.
@Gabbo: Nobody said that your opinion is wrong but your judgement is unfair. You more or less admit that if the exactly same game had been released on an hypothetic GBA section of the Virtual Console, you would have give it a few points more. That's unfair. Plus, you should have more consideration for the main target of this wiiware version: people like us who discover and enjoy the series for the first time. For anyone who fits in this category, these games clearly deserve more than just 5.
"WiiWare should be for new games, not used like a Virtual Console service" Megaman 9, Castlevania Rebirth, Adventure Island: The Beginning, Bubble Bobble Plus!, Rainbow Islands Towering Adventure ! So many brand new games! Never heard of them before.
Plus, as I said before this is totally off topic. A review is about a game and certainly not about what an online service should or should not be.
Ok, we all got it! You don't want this game to be a wiiware, you would prefer a VC release. But, you know what? Some people are happy with things just the way they are. I don't have a DS. I do not plan to buy one. I never had a chance to play this series before the wiiware release of the first episode. Anyone who would have to review this game for just its intrinsic value would give it an 8. I'm an amateur videogames reviewer too, and I know how difficult it is to sum up your feelings about a game but I have to say this review is biased by non-game considerations such as "wiiware instead of VC" and things like that. These contextual matters have nothing to do with the game itself.
I got it last night and it's a really funny game. I wonder one thing though. The online is said to be global which means that the same question displays on your opponent's screen even if he plays in a different language. But a lot of questions are localized, so what does the game do? Does it switch them off everytime that happens or send 2 "equivalent" questions to the players? I'm not sure here.
And to make it clear about downloadable question packs, they never replace the game core 8,000 questions, they're just an optional addition.
Good luck everybody, and if you see some tricky questions about Avatar the movie, blame it on me.
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Re: Tekken 8 On Switch 2 Would Be "A Lot Of Work", But Director Isn't Ruling It Out
I don't understand how Street Fighter 6 was a Switch 2 launch game while the porting process of Tekken 8 to the console has yet to begin. And I refuse to believe that Namco Bandai doesn't have multiple dev kits
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Confirmed As The First Switch 2 Title To Use Nvidia's DLSS Upscaling
I'm not going to lie, I'm a bit disappointed that DLSS is needed to have the game running at all at sub native resolutions without any ray tracing. When one read the Switch 2 specs sheet, they should understand that it can do 4k or 120hz or ray tracing in really demanding games.
Now, how is Star Wars Outlaws going to run considering ray tracing can't be disabled in that game?
Re: Gallery: Get A Closer Look At The Jakks Pacific Mario Movie Toys
Mario is 75% as tall as bowser but somehow, he is as tall as a truck tyre ?!
Re: Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Nintendo Ad Teases New Master Sword Details
The weakest part of Breath of the Wild was the breakable weapons. So I'm a bit worried that the Master Sword will be unusable until the endgame and every other weapon breaks after a few hits. It would be really annoying
Re: Out Now: Marvel's Guardians Of The Galaxy: Cloud Version Is Out, But Try The Demo First
As someone who embraced cloud gaming since its infancy with OnLive, I must say that every cloud game sucks on Switch. This new Guardians of the Galaxy one is no exception. It was blurry and laggy on my Switch OLED screen. Same thing for Control, which I "own" when and tried it on the OLED a few days ago.
These games do too little for the price. They're only really playable in dock mode and even then, they lack any kind of support for core Switch features like gyro aiming and HD rumble
Re: Frame Rate And Resolution For Monster Hunter Rise Demo Revealed
@NicheAbou It depends on the game. For instance, my optimal settings for The Witcher 3 are 720p , no anti-aliasing and low sharpness whereas Crysis Remastered looks amazing in 1080p.
Re: Frame Rate And Resolution For Monster Hunter Rise Demo Revealed
Without the mClassic, I don't think I would still be using my Switch
Re: Rumour: 'Switch Pro' Could Feature A Mini-LED Display, According To A New Report
What happened to the rumored IGZO display?
Re: PSA: You Can Play Mario Kart Live Outside, But We Wouldn't Recommend It
I might get this game just to have a wireless camera for my Switch and take photos and videos of things and people and share them via the console's album.
Re: Random: These Stylish Rail Covers Will Protect Your Switch From Fall Damage
What about the same thing but shaped as a proper controller handle to play touchscreen only games with your thumbs?
Re: Superhot Director Really Wants To Bring The Game To Nintendo Switch
Now that Labo VR is a thing and some third party developers are considering supporting it, it would be a good time to port Superhot to the Switch.
Re: Review: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Justice For All (WiiWare)
@theblackdragon: Let's end it.
... until the next episode review.
i'm serious, the dead-horse-beating is over. :3 -- TBD
Re: Review: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Justice For All (WiiWare)
The only flaw that this review and the previous one present to justify the 5 points score is the lazy port accusation. The algorithm isn't complicated at all. It's crystal clear. The 2 reviews are focused on one thing: these wiiware versions are lazy ports. They both end up with a 3points down score compared to the DS versions. So, we can say that lazy port = 3 points down.
If things turn like Ezekiel says, the 3rd game will receive the same score.
But there a problem with that affirmation:
"A score simply represents at a glance how this game stacks up against other Wiiware games."
Honestly, tell me which wiiware game can be compare to Ace Attorney? "Aha, I got it"? Does waggling and pointer support and a higher native resolution make it a better game than Ace Attorney? seriously?
@Gizmo: "Was it really so hard (for this high price) not to make the game better?"
You're mistaken here. Only the presentation could have been far better. A higher screen resolution cannot make a game better. ( I wasn't expecting to have to explain that to a wii owner ).
Re: Review: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Justice For All (WiiWare)
@Gabbo: Ok, so it's pure coincidence if the 2 wiiware games end up with the same score with reviews that are heavily focused on the fact that they are lazy GBA ports.
We all know that the 3rd episode will be ported the same way. So, if it also end up with a 5 or below, you have to admit there is a problem.
Re: Review: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Justice For All (WiiWare)
I agree that wiiware is not the place where you expect to find ports of handheld games. But, as I said GBA nor DS are not gonna be on VC. So, why on earth anyone who still have to play Ace Attorney should not welcome this series for the gem it is? There is absolutely nothing approching on wiiware.
And, once again, is there a law to force developers to use "what the wii has to offer" in every wiiware game?
If such a law exist, I wish it would apply to retail games too, and the producers of Resident Evil: Archives would be in jail.
Re: Review: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Justice For All (WiiWare)
@theblackdragon: "Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney" Where do you see a disguise in this title?
I known what I am about to play given this title.
I recognise this is an hybrid form between VC and wiiware but how does it interfere in the games inner quality?
Re: Review: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Justice For All (WiiWare)
"A VC game stands for originality, and you want a VC game to be the original one. For a WiiWare game you simple can and have to expect more."
Is that a kind of universal law?
Because I don't agree at all. Wiiware is the perfect place to release ports of games whom original platform is not present on VC. Since GBA is not present on VC (and DS will never ever be) Ace Attorney had to be on wiiware, even if the games are straight ports. It doesn't alter their quality in any way.
For those who complaint about poor graphics and no pointer support, I guess the DLC case will be enhanced at least in the DS style.
Re: Review: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Justice For All (WiiWare)
@Gizmo: So, what you're saying is if Capcom had managed to port this to the SNES emulator on VC the result would have been acceptable.
But since it's on wiiware, it's not acceptable anymore? Let's being honest, it's barely the same game than DS or GBA version. And if they had released it on VC, they couldn't have add the fifth case in the first game since VC doesn't support DLC in any way.
Re: Review: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Justice For All (WiiWare)
@theblackdragon: For someone who hasn't played them yet on GBA or DS, (a few millions people amho) these games are both new and awesome.
The review is not bad but the lazy port does not justify the 3 points drop.
Re: Review: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Justice For All (WiiWare)
@theblackdragon: What you forget is the fact that many people who have a wii and play wiiware games don't own a DS. So, when Capcom decide to port a series like Ace Attorney to wiiware, they kind of forced to begin with the beginning. I enjoy these wiiware ports so much that I hope they will port Miles Edgeworth as well.
Let me sum up your point of view: When you port a game to VC, it's a good thing that you don't alter the game in any way. But when you do exactly the same thing and upload it in the "wiiware" folder instead, you become a lazy greedy thief? Am I correct?
Well, what Capcom should have done? Wait for Nintendo to add a GBA category to VC? It's more likely that they create a VC on DSi with GB/GBA games so wiiware players would have never get a chance to play that game.
And for those arguing it should have been a port from the DS version, you have to be aware that Nintendo would have never let people play DS games on Wii. It would be a major commercial mistake to let people access to the same game at a cheaper price than the retail DS version.
And don't forget, the games do have wii exclusive functions: motion controls to object and submit evidence and the wiimote speaker support. So you can't say it's a 100% direct port from GBA.
Re: Review: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Justice For All (WiiWare)
@Gizmo: So we can say there is no work at all in porting a game to VC. Surprisingly some of them are given more than 5 when they get reviewed.
Re: Review: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Justice For All (WiiWare)
@Gabbo: Nobody said that your opinion is wrong but your judgement is unfair. You more or less admit that if the exactly same game had been released on an hypothetic GBA section of the Virtual Console, you would have give it a few points more. That's unfair.
Plus, you should have more consideration for the main target of this wiiware version: people like us who discover and enjoy the series for the first time.
For anyone who fits in this category, these games clearly deserve more than just 5.
Re: Review: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Justice For All (WiiWare)
"WiiWare should be for new games, not used like a Virtual Console service"
Megaman 9, Castlevania Rebirth, Adventure Island: The Beginning, Bubble Bobble Plus!, Rainbow Islands Towering Adventure ! So many brand new games! Never heard of them before.
Plus, as I said before this is totally off topic. A review is about a game and certainly not about what an online service should or should not be.
Re: Review: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Justice For All (WiiWare)
Ok, we all got it! You don't want this game to be a wiiware, you would prefer a VC release. But, you know what? Some people are happy with things just the way they are. I don't have a DS. I do not plan to buy one. I never had a chance to play this series before the wiiware release of the first episode. Anyone who would have to review this game for just its intrinsic value would give it an 8. I'm an amateur videogames reviewer too, and I know how difficult it is to sum up your feelings about a game but I have to say this review is biased by non-game considerations such as "wiiware instead of VC" and things like that.
These contextual matters have nothing to do with the game itself.
Re: Nintendo Download: 15 January 2010 (Europe)
I've just downloaded Ace Attorney French version and it's only 275 blocks, not 301 like the US. That's quite a mystery!
Re: Review: TV Show King 2 (WiiWare)
I got it last night and it's a really funny game.
I wonder one thing though. The online is said to be global which means that the same question displays on your opponent's screen even if he plays in a different language. But a lot of questions are localized, so what does the game do? Does it switch them off everytime that happens or send 2 "equivalent" questions to the players? I'm not sure here.
And to make it clear about downloadable question packs, they never replace the game core 8,000 questions, they're just an optional addition.
Good luck everybody, and if you see some tricky questions about Avatar the movie, blame it on me.