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I was interested but I’m truly shocked by the $30 increase. I have animal crossing but regret as it turns out, it’s just not my kind of game. I tried new leaf too but it just doesn’t connect with me. I’m not sure why I was expecting 10-20 more. If dlc for other games start to get added, maybe?

@Kyranosaurus I would recommend against not buying a single game based on this knowledge. The reason is that it would be extremely rare to find a game that properly credits everyone’s work. Any game of this magnitude is an offender. I haven’t purchased this game due to the high price tag. It’s not a boycott I just think Nintendo games have lost their pricing structure of the past. Everything is 60 now. With the loss of a dedicated handheld, games are all 60. I lament this, but it’s not just a Metroid Dread problem. Take the Pokémon remakes. Those are 40 buck games if they were made in the 3ds era and would control better due to the dual screens (impressions show that the loss of the screen is a detriment)

@Specter_of-the_OLED I imagine that’s one credits page where not being credited can only be a good thing.

@BAN sorry just saw this. It’s hard for me to think you are talking in a fair manner when you start with lol. It’s laughing at my position, something I would not to you or others.

@Yorumi That’s fair. Thank you for the thoughtful replies.

@Yorumi It is elitism, to some extent, but it’s a standard that exists in some industries. I get what you mean but the question you are asking is not the question at hand.

@ZER0AO Great points. Much of the outage seems to stem from the concept that this is out of form for the industry. It isn’t. Is it right? That’s the more interesting topic. I would say it is okay but only when it is clear what gets you in the credits. To open a can of worms, that jerk that made Minecraft had his name removed. I don’t like that jerk but I think his name should still be in the game, since he was deemed at the time worthy for the credits. Future conduct does not diminish ones contributions to a past project. I think you should want your industry to adapt to the changes as you point out, there is plenty of time and room for all names. But… is that the purpose of credits? I don’t know, though I want to say no. I think there should be a line, but that’s hard to gauge too.

@NEStalgia Yep, I don’t see this a scandal. This got me thinking about something I never thought about, and I might have not clicked the article without the clickbait headline. So I guess I’m not mad I got scammed, I’m not sure. Another thing to ponder!

@invictus4000 Thanks, I appreciate your reply. Yeah, it’s the internet. We are all experts! Except for people that disagree with me, they are charlatans! Hehehe.

@BAN Why did you respond in such a manner? It is common to have your name in the credits if you were a major contributor to a video game. That is a fact. Yes, they would not pop the game open, but on a resume, you would certainly put you were a credited programmer for such and such. I didn’t even disagree with you, for the most part. This is another reminder for me to stop thinking that people can say something and have someone else agree or disagree in a respectable way. It’s like any job, you list your accomplishments and accolades in your resume. By not being credited, there’s one less thing to put on your resume. I thought it was abundantly clear that it’s not the end of the world nor is it the only metric used when hiring in the video game industry. If money is good enough, why have credits? Who cares, right?
Apologies for typos, sucks typing on my phone.

@invictus4000 No moral dilemma, I would agree. I do find this example interesting, as some debate what the line is. Policy is policy of course, but that’s boring. But policy is also why this is not a ethical failure of the company, though that doesn’t mean there is no room for debate on what individuals believe going forward what the standard should be.
I would say no to adding this individual after the fact, but I mull over the idea that perhaps this policy is insufficient.

@BAN Immoral is not the word I would use, I would use expectation. In this particular industry, those who contribute in a meaningful way to the final product get credited. This expectation does not exist when looking for work as a carpenter. The only question, at least to me, is if 8 months over a set amount of hours on a particular portion of this game warrants getting your name in the credits.

@Yorumi I get your point about other industries, but you know that movies and video games operate differently. If I am looking for a job, people don’t expect that to be qualified, my work was credited by my previous employer. You can’t make your point that other industries don’t credit so who cares? This industry does so if your name is not listed, it can be to your determinant. There is an expectation already set that having your name in the credits helps your prospects. You can argue that this person is not deserving of being credited, that can be a logical conclusion, but you are comparing apples and androids here.

@Judgedean Every generation is easily offended. It’s not a unique problem. You couldn’t be communist in the 50s, couldn’t be gay in pretty much any era, and you needed to be pious as to not offend anyone. These days, everyone has a megaphone. That’s the only difference. It’s lazy to blame or pretend that any one generation is filled with bad people.

@MrMetroid Everything and everyone is evil, but is that a fact to lean into? There are small things people can do to lighten their impact. Is boycotting this game one of them? No, not to me, but your point isn’t much better than Charlie’s.

@MegaVel91 That’s correct, though think of it on the other end of those that did get credited. Say this person was part of enemy ai coding but only worked 8 months. Should their name be listed with those that spent the entire duration of development? I would say no. So perhaps the end credits can highlight the most significant people and offer another found elsewhere in the game can credit everyone involved, regardless of their level of contribution.

@GrailUK I think job title, and months or hours logged could be helpful, but probably a hard thing to keep track of. As I think about it, two credit lists seems to provide the best of both worlds. Minor contributions are still contributions, but shouldn’t be listed with those that contributed a lot more.

@GrailUK If a list of credits is incredibly long, it has less impact than a list of credits of only a few names. Indie games have this luxury for example, where everyone can be credited since it was a team of 10 people.
Once the list starts getting into the thousands, the names do become a bit meaningless.

Possibly the solution is two lists of credits. The one at the end of a game should be curated to some extent and showcase the most “important” people whereas in the options, we should be able to see a list of everyone involved and to what capacity they worked on the game. I do take some issue with the idea that this is a abhorrent practice, as it is a bit more complicated than that.

@Fulkaffe I understand your take on this information, but how should that idea be credited? That’s a very minor contribution and shouldn’t be listed among those that came up with the concept art for the boss battles, for example.

I think I am for crediting everyone, but we need to be careful about not giving someone too much credit. That will indeed diminish the work of someone that coded in that idea, or who worked on the game for a much longer period of time.

@hyakulegger Can you articulate what I am rallying against? I am able to do so with regards to yourself. Your identity on this site is thus far based on demeaning those you deem to be your political or cultural opponent. I don’t know you though, so perhaps you are more thoughtful than your posts lead me to believe. I’m on break from work so I’ve got some time to waste. I will admit that what I am doing at this time is doing no one any good.

@hyakulegger Whether you delete it or not, your post will disappear. That might give you something else to rally against.

@hyakulegger No need to listen to me, but I suggest you delete this post as using a sexual orientation as a slur is not only wrong, but it’s lazy and uninspired.

@Mahatma Thank you as well. I appreciate your comments as well, whether we are in full agreement or not. I prefer talking things out with someone who doesn’t see things my way all the time, it helps me either change my mind or reinforce my prior ideas. Cheers, I wish you well.

@hyakulegger You have no comprehension with regards to my posts. These phrases you grasp on to don’t exist in my sphere. Have fun fighting people similar to yourself who need a stance to prove their existence.

@hyakulegger There you go again. Status and stature only get you so far, especially when you are talking to strangers on the internet.

@hyakulegger Literally, you used a profession that is under appreciated to make fun of someone who is not appreciating another persons profession. I would recommend setting your sights higher, if your goal is to be better than other people.

@Mahatma You may not be a fan of my reply to you. I’m not on anyone’s side here. As we speak, I continue to internalize this information as I decide how to feel about this topic. It’s an interesting thought experiment, at the very least. I just caution you into thinking that everyone who takes a stance and decides to state is doing so for malicious reasons.

@kobashi100 It’s a comments board. The post invites feedback, like all posts. Also, it’s implicit that if the company is immoral, then those that purchase this game are also immoral. People have a right to state why Charlie’s girls stance doesn’t align with their own beliefs.

@Mahatma As I already stated, everyone here (I’m sorry for the generalization as that flies in the face of my point) wants to make this a zero sum game. It’s stupid! No it’s not! Virtue! Justice! I’m sick of it! I’m not! It’s all crazy to me. I don’t agree with you as you are doing the same. You are against SJWs, good for you! That just makes you part of the long game, something vs something. Everything is something vs something.

@Broski To some, perhaps listing too many people in the credits diminishes the contribution of others credited. Possibly a good middle ground is to list everyone and list the amount of time they spent on the project.
To play devil’s advocate, executive producers generally spent very little time on projects but their credit is generally front and center. To be clear, I don’t have strong feelings on this topic but I would disagree with almost every take I’ve seen on this topic.

@smithpa01 It couldn’t hurt to credit everyone, I suppose. At the same time, some people worked longer or on more important aspects of the final product. Possibly a minor contributors section would work but then, I assume many would have different opinions on what is considered minor and major contributors.

Well, like anything, the devil is in the details. We know for a fact no one spent 8 months with no sleep continuously working on Metroid Dread until they succumbed to sleep deprivation. Within those 8 months, they worked a certain amount of hours on this game. How many? Was this full time work? Could be. Could not be. I caution anyone to make drastic decisions based on crumbs of information. I hate how we need to be so for or against any piece of information we hear. It would be nice if people took time to digest before screaming about something one way or the other.

@KateGray It really was an excellent article. Thank you for your hard work. I use the fairy fountain song as a lullaby for my little one. It’s a song that can really put me in a trance.

I don’t just come here for news. It’s great little pieces like this that make me smile.
I have to listen through them all, but I would have to disagree with the placing of skyward swords take. It’s so darn beautiful, and slowly builds. It uses the orchestra and choir to its fullest. Such a magical melody.

Edit: Oops I see the 25th anniversary at number 2. I’ll take it.

@HIGHscores85 They are hard to understand at first, but they are far from worthless. It saddens me that some are stuck with only 2 or so control schemes. Learn a little, it’s fun.

@Desrever Somehow, this game might have my favorite storyline in any game. Not too serious, but bam, it hits you hard here and there. A perfect distillation of action and comedy. Plus, the way the story gets told while you are playing? Still unmatched in my mind. I don’t think any other game used all the features of a 3ds so well.

To me, easily the best 3ds game. The only question is if it’s my favorite game ever made.
To those who hate the controls, I get you. They are hard to grasp at first. They also make the game for me. The game could work with regular controls, especially surface battles but even then, something would be missing. If this game was made with the new 3ds in mind, I think the extra shoulder buttons would really help perfect the controls. To this day, the only part I hate on the controls is using your power ups on that stupid small scroll bar at the bottom. Just awful. Everything else though? Pure gold Jerry!

@BloodNinja Who cares, these old guys replaced a king, and we can replace them. It’s called progress. We shouldn’t stick with old idols, but I can agree that idols as a whole is a bad idea. Put my face on the 20.

@BloodNinja Hi Pot! I’m kettle. Nice to meet you.

@joey302 Yes, Americans now somehow care about Afghanistan. Convenient timing, no less. We had 20 years to give a hoot but now that we are following Trumps withdrawal timeline (actually Biden was able to get us a couple more months as May 1st was certainly not doable), the sky is falling. Get your vaccine, Trump did and you seem to love the guy.

@alpha5099 monotype run sounds like fun. Bug seems like a silly one to give a try, I just might do that.

@LUIGITORNADO Such a great art style that is so far left unused, outside of links awakening of course. If we don’t get a new top down Zelda using this great style, yeah that will be a huge waste.

@nessisonett Yeah especially on a dragon type. Fire coverage is always appreciated. Stab is only a 50% boost. Fire is my favorite type but I would never run all fire stab.

@Indielink I don’t like how he hounds everyone here so I felt it worthy to point that out every now and then. It gets tiring seeing that half a comments section is this ninja guy that doesn’t seem to like anything anyone has to say around here.

@BloodNinja The switch is far more powerful, but feel free to contest to usage of the term smokes. Manages to match ps3? That’s just flat out incorrect. Of course the switch is weaker than ps4, but far more powerful than a ps3.
Enjoy spamming the comments!

To those asking about how under 1.99, possibly it’s due to how the sale is linked to a prior purchase.

I bought the mouse one for my 2 year old. It’s really adorable but my god, making the B button go back to the main menu? Worst design decision ever made especially for a game designed for young ones.

He seems like a decent man. He went through a messy divorce and the world as a whole was pretty awful to him for a while. I’m glad he is getting work again and seems to be at peace with himself.

@Pokester99 The best one was inside story, but dream team was also great. Metroid… I assume you mean Super Metroid and even then, many people can’t stand that game compared to the newer entries. Animal Crossing, maybe you are right. I could never get into those games, and I’ve tried them all since the DS days. I personally like new leaf more only because I really like the 3D on the 3ds. All in all, you seem to think the best days are behind you, and that makes me sad.

@Sciqueen Yes, that is the joke.