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Nintendo should not think that people don't like the series because they don't like Star Fox Zero but it's because they like the series that they don't like Star Fox Zero.

@Snow-Dust "It's like the developers did not even play their own game when developing it".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJg1M3cfqrU

EDIT: The end of the video is great. I'm not the only one who thinks Skyward Sword is the worst Zelda game.

@Snow-Dust I know. I don't know what's worse, turning Paper Mario into Colour Splash or turning Metroid into Federation Force...

@Snow-Dust I can understand that you hate the studio responsible for Metroid "Prime" Federation Force, but I believe this was Nintendo's great idea, like the Amiibo Festival idea.

@Snow-Dust Or maybe because they are cheap to make and they sell them at a premium price! They have been lazy for a long time. What have they been doing all these years? Not Wii U or 3DS big games, that's for sure, and not a NX launch Mario game because Miyamoto said we'll see something interesting about Mario in 2-3 years. What the...

@PlywoodStick Next Level also made a better Luigi's Mansion game. I normally hate long videos because they feel a waste of time (I'd rather watch a film), but this one is really interesting.

@DBPirate Yeah, Nintendo said last generation that they would focus on 2D Mario games and that they were disappointed by Super Mario Galaxy sales. Funnily, New Super Mario Bros U sales are 5.15 millions, less than half as much as Super Mario Galaxy. I'm not saying that a 3D Mario game would have sold more, but they should care more about diversity specially when they lack any kind of third party support (except for Just Dance and the casual thing). The big picture is what really matters, and that's the reason why Wii U has failed.

@PlywoodStick Miyamoto also says that we don't enjoy Star Fox Zero because we are old... But the truth is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJg1M3cfqrU

@Snow-Dust @Seacliff LOL Yeah Nintendo said that they didn't make a new Wave Race game (one of my favourite Nintendo franchises) because there is a jet-ski mini game in Wii Sports Resorts, so probably there's no F-Zero game because there are two F-Zero circuits in Mario Kart 8 and one in Nintendo Land.

@Souldin @DBPirate I just checked it and Pikmin 3 was not a commercial failure. It's a million-seller with 1.09 millions and it got good reviews. As you said, I don't know what Pikmin 3 has to do with Star Fox Zero, Nintendo would do better if they compared it to other Star Fox games instead of a game from another franchise and different genre.

Nintendo can be so ungrateful though. They were disappointed by Super Mario Galaxy sales (11.52 millions) and compared them continuously to New Super Mario Bros. Wii sales (28.60 millions) and reached the conclusion that they had to focus on 2D Mario games because people liked them more, looking down on those 11 million people that purchased the 3D Mario game. I wonder what Nintendo would be doing now if Wii U was as successful as Wii and I wonder why Nintendo hasn't learnt to really appreciate the totality of their userbase now that they have lost so many customers (New Super Mario Bros U sales are 5.15 millions, less than half as much as Super Mario Galaxy).

@Snow-Dust Yeah, I read your profile and I see that you are a huge Metroid fan and you are telling me that you love linear action so that makes me ask you this question, do you prefer Metroid Prime or Super Metroid-style? My first Metroid game was Metroid Prime, then 2 and then 3. I loved the three games (and I got the trilogy for Wii U). I also got Super Metroid on Wii U when it was €0.20 but I haven't played it. I played Metroid Fusion on 3DS (Ambassador promo) but I prefer the Metroid Prime games.

My favourite Mario games are Super Mario World and Super Mario Sunshine.

Back to Star Fox Zero, this video (someone put the link before) is really interesting because it answers with strong arguments the big question, why Star Fox Zero sucks. The guy really explains it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJg1M3cfqrU

@-Red- Probably.

@-Red- I did not play the game but, to be totally honest, all the long hours of gameplay show were like what @MADGAZ is describing. When I tuned back after doing something else they were doing exactly the same things in places that looked exactly the same.

@Snow-Dust I mean the "New Super Mario Bros." games, being quite uninspired in general and New Super Mario Bros. 2 in particular being actually rubbish. About the 3D Mario games, I much prefer something like Super Mario Sunshine with open worlds and exploration instead of tiny planets (Super Mario Galaxy) or linear action (Super Mario 3D World).

Mario and Zelda were my favourite franchises since I can remember until recently. I still love them but some of the recent games have disappointed me much (Skyward Sword, Super Mario 3D World).

@Snow-Dust Yeah, Colour Splash doesn't look good but I want to see if it's finally like Sticker Star or not... What do you think about it this far?

The Thousand-year Door is the best Paper Mario game, indeed. I remember when I played it the first time I thought "This is one of the best GameCube games" and I had tons of GameCube games.

About Yoshi's Woolly World, I loved it but I think Tropical Freeze is better. They both are better than the "New" Mario games, if you ask me.

@televisions As much as I like the Nintendo Life community, don't trust Nintendo Life's reviews (don't trust mono-brand websites, in general). I used to trust them and I bought many games I didn't like. I think the best thing is to read many reviews ( http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii-u/star-fox-zero/critic-reviews ), although gamers' impressions are even better. It would be great if at least Nintendo released a demo so people can try and not just BUY IT blindly as Nintendo is expecting.

@mariovslink62 If only it was Star Fox 64 HD I really think Star Fox 64 3D is much better.

@Snow-Dust

It's pretty obvious that we both are Nintendo long-time fans, let's be honest:

Welcome to Nintendo. Please, enter command.
>_
>Destroy Paper Mario: Paper Mario Sticker Star
>Destroy Metroid: Metroid Other M and Metroid Prime Federation Force*
>Destroy Animal Crossing: Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival
>Destroy Mario Party: Mario Party 10
>Destroy Mario vs. Donkey: Mini Mario & Friends: Amiibo Challenge
>Destroy Mario Tennis: Mario Tennis Ultra Smash and Mario Tennis Open
>Destroy Star Fox: Star Fox Zero
>Destroy Yoshi: Yoshi's New Island
>Destroy Mario Golf: Mario Golf World Tour

[* Federation Force: the game concept.]

@televisions It's like he's saying that we're too old to enjoy games any more. Condescending and stupid idea.

@Snow-Dust @HappyMaskedGuy Link's Awakening is the best GB/GBC and even GBA game! I didn't like the Oracle games much though, I think they are overly complicated (Ages specially). I didn't have a clue about what I had to do most of the time. Link's Awakening is wonderful, like HappyMaskedGuy said, is special.

@HappyMaskedGuy I'm yet to hear Nintendo saying sorry for something. For instance, Capcom said sorry for Street Fighter V not having a single player story until a week ago (and the game is awesome now!). Nintendo never says, "Sorry for disappointing you, we'll fix that and we'll try harder next time". What Nintendo says is, "You don't know what's fun", "You don't have siblings", "You are old", "You s*ck..."...

@MADGAZ Thanks for your impressions, I like gamers' impressions more than websites' articles lately. I guess that instead of spreading chests around an empty huge world they decided to make "points" where a few baddies and chests lie. That's good for a small segment of a game, like in Twilight Princess's desert, but it's not a good world design idea. It would be better to have small villages where all the important stuff is and spread the heart pieces (if the developers are going to include them) around the world. Also, I have noticed how Nintendo is too proud of making changes to their franchises instead of perfecting them as a gaming experience (one of the reasons why Skyward Sword disappointed me so much).

@HappyMaskedGuy Absolutely agree about Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask. You described Majora's Mask very well, I cared a lot about the characters and theirs stories to the point that I wrote down all the events and timeline (the game did not have a proper Bomber Notebook until the 3DS remake).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IceMIN7wzAk

@MADGAZ I agree with the whole comment, including the Zelda bits. Even though I haven't tried it, what was shown looked quite dull and uninspired. I'm pretty confident that the final game will have more content and surprises, but I didn't understand why people got so amazed about what was shown at E3, because what was shown was just a big and empty world that shouldn't blow anybody's mind when there are tons of open-world games (with rich visuals) nowadays. I have a feeling that Twilight Princess is older but better, but I'll find out once I get the new Zelda game.

@Souldin Yep, my only piece of advice for people that want to give Maiden of Black Water a try is to not display the map on the GamePad by default, because otherwise you have to tap the touchscreen whenever a fight begins losing precious time and feeling disoriented. If you want to check the map, do it on the TV. Also, I would suggest standing up for all battles.

The thing is that motion controls work on Maiden of Black Water, they are logical and make sense (GAMEPAD CAMERA = GHOST CAMERA), while in Star Fox Zero they are more an issue than a benefit.

@Snow-Dust But you don't know who to trust at Nintendo these days. New Super Mario Bros. 2 was made by younger staffers and it is rubbish, while Splatoon was also made by younger staffers and it is a good game. I used to love Miyamoto in the past, but both Miyamoto and Iwata have shoehorned their eccentric ideas and lowered Nintendo's quality standards.

@Souldin Agreed about Maiden of Black Water, it would also be my answer to @Damo 's question.

Firstly, Nintendo is lying when they say Pikmin 3 was underrated:

http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii-u/pikmin-3

http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii-u/star-fox-zero

Secondly, what has Pikmin to do with Star Fox Zero? This is like if somebody says, "Oh, you know, I really tried to like Star Fox Zero but I hated it after a while" and I answer, "Yes but Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed is a great game, isn't it?" What the...

@Snow-Dust LOL Sticker Star was another mess, yep.

@cleveland124 Yeah it's like talking about a good game whenever a bad game is being criticised. It doesn't make any sense, specially since they belong to different genres and franchises.

@Snow-Dust Oh what is SS? You guys should not use acronyms so much! It could be Skyward Sword but it could be anything else out of context.

@Snow-Dust I'd recommend you Star Fox 64 3D if you have a Nintendo 3DS, it's the best Star Fox game. I also love Star Fox Adventure (GameCube) but that is an adventure game.

@Phil_Kavadias In my case, even though I don't have much time, if I really like a game, I try to 100% it (except for multiplayer achievements, weird trophies and things like that, I mean the main "game"). With so many games out there, I can understand that people don't spend much time with a game that they are not really enjoying or that feels more like a chore than like a pleasure.

@HappyMaskedGuy Any Nintendo excuse is valid: that you don't have a sibling, that you don't have enough time (even though the game is pretty short), what's next? However, they still want you to buy it without trying it first. Suspicious behaviour that they have many ideas, they can think of many reasons and excuses, but they won't let you try the game.

I love this franchise. It's really one of the best things you can play on a handheld.

Miitomo is such a waste of time. I'm happy that I uninstalled it.

Take one PR generic sentence and make headlines and articles like there's no tomorrow.

So Nintendo wants more people to buy the game in spite of the harsh reception, instead of releasing a demo so you can give it "a try" and see for yourself... Nintendo making much sense, as usual. It's ridiculous.

@kobashi100 Agreed, the 3DS versions of both Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask are better than the original games. Now Ocarina of Time 3D is discounted and probably Majora's Mask 3D will be discounted too. You guys should get OoT 3D if you haven't yet.

@whodatninja Yep, it's a bit disappointing that this is the PAL version again and yep, the side quests made Majora's Mask a masterpiece.

One of the best Nintendo games ever.

@PinkSpider Yep. Instead of giving 50% off on extremely expensive SNES ROMs, why they don't just sell these games at the right price and with a cross-buy option? And where is Pilotwings 64? Yohi's Island? Super Mario All Stars? Compared to the other digital stores, Nintendo's is lamentable.

@BensonUii No offence intended, by the way.

@Anti-Matter Why should technology equal all the negative things that you have said? Nintendo used to make "peaceful" high-quality games (like Super Mario Sunshine or Double Dash!!) for powerful machines (NES, SNES, N64, GC). Also, violent games have always been part of Nintendo's game libraries, whether as third party games or even first or second party games. You have a recent example in Devil's Third, co-developed and published by Nintendo for Wii U, a gore (and technically poor) game.

It depends on how they do this. Firstly, all we have heard about NX on the internet suggest that NX is going to be a hybrid under-powered platform. Secondly, Wii U ports are unclear at this point, but are plausible if you connect the mobile device to the home device. Thirdly, the new software has to be more impressive than what they have offered during the current generation, if they expect the console to be more successful than Wii U. Lastly, if they are targeting the kids market, they might not compete with One/Scorpio and PS4/Neo, but they would still have massive competitors: mobile phones and tablets.

Because of this, I still believe they should target the hardcore player back without selling specific hardware, that is, developing high quality software for One/Scorpio, PS4/Neo and PC, instead of developing weak apps and games for Google Play and Apple Store and struggling to keep up with the mobile and home console markets.

@MJInnocent Yeah, I think Retro did a much better job with Tropical Freeze than with Returns. Probably, the new employees helped them in achieving a much better visual art. David Wise's soundtrack helps, too.

Wii U has a few amazing 2D platformers if you include Yoshi's Woolly World (which I love, too). If only it had a real 3D Mario game...

@BensonUii Haha you must be joking... I said 65 because that's what you need for this discount. Yes, you get 70 and not 65. You are so funny...

Tropical Freeze is, in my opinion, one of the best Wii U games so that it's a much easier recommendation. I got it at launch though.

For 64 golden coins that you can only get by buying new software over €60, I expected old Pilotwings to be a freebie. This is a bit stingy of Nintendo!

@BornInNorway81 And I thought PushSquare was cheap... Nintendo Life is so close sometimes :S