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@BiasedSonyFan And this is the first time you have asked me, you edited your message to include me but it didn't reach my mailbox because of that.

@BiasedSonyFan My point is that Metroid Prime 1, 2 and 3 were universally praised while Metroid Prime Federation Force has mixed reviews (69% at the moment).

@DarkVortex Poor @Diortem, his first post was perfectly valid, I don't know what happened after that.

@udickridesony LOL Is that to people criticising "her" last game or is that her attitude towards "her" latest game?

...or because she was excluded from "her" game?

@TrueWiiMaster #295 https://www.nintendolife.com/reviews/3ds/metroid_prime_federation_force#comment3612599

@merrygorndoflife I'm being respectful, dude.

@Shiryu OK, I see. Even though I did not sign that petition I believe that its goal was to tell Nintendo that they cared about Metroid but they wanted a real Metroid game and not what @EXP has perfectly defined as a non-Metroid game with a Metroid skin (#316). According to all these fans, this is not a Metroid game but uses the Metroid Prime brand like @MrSeitaro and @naut have already explained.

I don't watch hating videos, I watch gameplay videos or funny videos like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IceMIN7wzAk

By the way, how do you assess the single player content of the game?

@AlexOlney In all honesty, Eurogamer is the most biased gaming site ever (when reviewing a game) and, at the same time, has the best articles. You can absolutely hate or love a game and write whatever you want about whatever game in there and it's perfectly fine, no one would be surprised. I believe that's why they removed the numerical scores.

@Kirk Yes, just check here to see the difference between Nintendo sites and others when reviewing the game:

http://www.metacritic.com/game/3ds/metroid-prime-federation-force/critic-reviews

@Shiryu Comment #291.

@TrueWiiMaster Funny how you ignore parts of my comments and manipulate the others while sounding arrogant. This is my last reply to you because it is pointless if you ignore the most important parts of mine.

Just a few more things where you're wrong:

"Even so, that's a very shallow and incomplete opinion, and has very little weight compared to one from someone who has played the whole game".

Not necessarily, it depends on how genuine the impressions are. And I haven't said what my opinion about the whole game is yet anyway. I don't care if the reviewer has played the whole game if the review itself is not really professional (that is, relatively objective, real, genuine, etc.). And read my comment about scores again (#295), please, you missed the whole point about that.

@TrueWiiMaster "Also, your claim that the reviewer was affected by his love for the developer doesn't hold up well".

Again, you're wrong. And I was not the first person in here to say so (three people did that before me). Even the review itself admits it.

@MarcelRguez Yes, man. Funny that the words "haters" and "morons" come first.

@Shiryu It really worries me that a Nintendo Life reviewer like yourself equals opinions with hate, but it also makes me understand how biased your review is. People have the right to say that they don't like the game concept, the ending result or your review on the forums and comments threads. You can't disapprove that and if you do, you shouldn't publicly say it.

@RatKing64 I know some people didn't like Metroid Prime at first glance because it was not 2D, but you can't be serious comparing Metroid Prime and Metroid Prime Federation Force. When people played Metroid Prime they liked it unless they hated 3D games, while there are many mixed impressions and reviews about Federation Force.

To people saying it's "good" because it's 69% this far, we all know that 69% does not equal to a good game nowadays. Very few games are below 50%, they have to be extremely bad to have a score average below 50% even though 50% is supposedly the middle point. This is not the school.

@TrueWiiMaster " 'Hate: intense or passionate dislike' You really think that isn't a fitting description of how some people responded to this game?"

Please tell who.

And tell me what you think about comment #247:

"God Lord this is why I hardly read comments... I was gonna say it's cool that it got a positive review. It's just a shame that unfortunately most people will be stubborn and stick to the hate train. I for one am very interested in trying it out.
I've said it before I hope the morons are happy the day their stupidity finally buries Nintendo as a gaming company. I don't remember the Genesis/Nintendo debates at school being this ridiculous..."

Isn't that the most hateful comment aimed at people that have a different opinion?

@Shiryu I won't but I won't buy the game either. I don't want to give Nintendo the "I like this Metroid game" message when it's false.

And there you are, amazing yet ignored games without a name.

@Einherjar ""Despite the undue hate" Come again ?
I slowly but surely get the feeling that people have no freaking clue what the word "hate" actually means.
It seems that having a preference, a disagreeing opinion and god forbid a different taste is now a criminal offense -.-"

Best comment on the thread.

@TrueWiiMaster That's why I want to know what other Metroid fans say about the game. Anyway, like I just said, you don't always need to play the whole game to have an opinion, there are gameplay videos, etc. And that demo. The consequence is that I don't agree with Gonçalo's review, no matter how nice the developers are. Love Luigi's Mansion 2 plus love Metroid Prime doesn't equal to love Metroid Prime Federation Force. Or it shouldn't.

@Shiryu I don't know who are you talking about now, but I don't have a final opinion about the whole game yet. Watching videos and gameplay helps to have an opinion though, specially when you have a lot of gaming experience like I do.

@Aurelis Ha ha! Then I should have mentioned Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival!

I love Star Fox Adventures.

@Shiryu Then Nintendo really should release a final demo.

@Aurelis #267 Intelligent reflection that applies to Star Fox Zero as well.

@Tlink7 If all this cheap spin-offs like Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival and Federation Force are successful then Nintendo is going to focus on cheap spin-offs, first on NX and, when they realise that gamers don't want these kind of games on dedicated gaming hardware, Nintendo will be developing these bland games for mobile phones exclusively.

@Aurelis I did it, played it and erased it. I hoped the whole game was at another level but it seems it's not. I agree with your comment, I think the same about this review.

@Razzmatazz So if a game is good and people say it's good it's fine. Actually, when I say that a Nintendo game is good you don't say nothing at all and ignore me. If a game is presumably not good and people say it's not good and other reviews say it's not good you call it hate and you call them "morons". Incongruity. Blind fanboyism.

@TrueWiiMaster I also read it:

"We look forward to seeing what the future of this particular spin off holds, because as it stands right now Federation Force is an impressive and solid foundation; it's more than able to satisfy hardcore Metroid fans until the inevitable return of Samus Aran".

I can't wait to see what Metroid fans say about that. Actually, I'm a Metroid Prime fan, but Nintendo is not releasing the game here until September! Hopefully there's a demo coming.

EDIT: Oh, yes, I played that "Ball demo" and is absolutely bland.

@Shiryu Nice to meet you, Gonçalo.

"We look forward to seeing what the future of this particular spin off holds, because as it stands right now Federation Force is an impressive and solid foundation; it's more than able to satisfy hardcore Metroid fans until the inevitable return of Samus Aran".

I bet lots of fans out there are going to disagree with you.

@Shiryu I know, this one was written by somebody else, that's why my second comment is a separate reflection about two crazy reviews by Damien (NSMB2 and Star Fox Zero) and Nintendo Life reviews in general which I can't take seriously.

Then again, Damien gave to the worst 2D Mario game (New Super Mario Bros. 2) 9/10 ouchhhh and Star Fox Zero 8/10. That's why Nintendo Life's reviews can't be taken seriously.

New Super Mario Bros. 2: The biggest rubbish ever is 9/10 according to Nintendo Life. LOL Super Mario World is a Picasso painting and New Super Mario Bros. 2 is a monkey's painting (using its bottom, not its hands).

A score above score average. In my opinion, Luigi's Mansion 2 is one of the best 3DS games BUT Federation Force is far from being as good. Same developer doesn't mean same results. The game concept itself limits the whole development and the ending product. More 7s than 8s everywhere else. If Luigi's Mansion 2 is 9/10 Federation Force should be 7/10 or less.

Five hours until Metroid "Prime" Federation Force reviews are officially published:

http://www.metacritic.com/game/3ds/metroid-prime-federation-force

The only scenario where Nintendo wouldn't need any third party developer like some people here are ignorantly claiming is the scenario where Nintendo became a third party developer.

@MysticX I mean, since Wii U launched Nintendo has not been doing things very well regarding users and software. Some people claim that Nintendo is focusing on NX but, in all honesty, I don't think most people is understanding with that, not to mention the low expectations any developer would have with the new Nintendo hardware after these years.

@MysticX Exactly.

Nintendo Life: "A new Metroid game for you".

...

That's what any developer would do, there's always time to say no after seeing launch numbers.

I know but when I was kid the cartoons taught me that they are Bowser's children and it's hard to think otherwise now. Plus, not even Nintendo is coherent about it, although Nintendo of Japan is more consistent.

This article explains it quite good, all of you Nintendo fans here should read it:

http://www.mariowiki.com/Koopalings#Family_relationship

@ThanosReXXX Not even Nintendo knows itself. This is like

http://www.mariowiki.com/Koopalings#Family_relationship

@Wolfgabe Probably, but still not nice doing that for such a long time on both Wii U and 3DS to their loyal fans.

@TrueWiiMaster What I don't like about Captain Toad is that the GamePad is used as a gimmick, the game itself is fine, probably more suitable as a cheap eShop download, anyway.

@GrailUK Yeah some of those Super Mario Sunshine extra levels are a real challenge!

I'm curious about Paper Mario Colour Splash and Mario Party Star Rush (both launch on 7th October in Europe). I love both series, but last installments in the two of them are disappointing to say the least. Add to the list Mario Tennis Ultra Smash, Star Fox Zero, Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival and you have a clue about what is Nintendo's current level of quality.

@Jingo_Unchained I don't even know when I'll get the game. If the Wii U version is fine I'll get it day one. If the Wii U version has slowdowns and visual issues I won't get a NX thing just because of that, so who knows when I'll get to play the game, even though I'm a Zelda fan. Perhaps it will be remastered for Scorpio/Neo, who knows at this point... or I won't wait and will get the Wii U version, I don't know.

@The__Goomba Project Zero / Fatal Frame: Maiden of Black Water is a very underrated game, probably because it was not played properly by some reviewers (like that Eurogamer girl who doesn't have a clue about survival horror games). It also makes the best use of the GamePad (Super Mario Maker aside).

I had a lot of trouble getting the Limited Edition. I pre-ordered the game and they never called me and then I found that my copy was sold to somebody else but since I had not paid there's nothing I could do. Then I managed to find it online elsewhere but they didn't sent it. I almost had to sue them because they had already charged my credit card and after two months of calls and emails I eventually got my copy. Maiden of Black Water was extremely difficult to find and some stores realised that they didn't have enough copies.

Nintendo Selects are usually games that have been successful but how can a game be successful when they print out just a few copies? And why so few copies when Nintendo published and co-developed the game? Why not an ordinary edition for Europe and no physical release at all in America? It's so daft. Yes, there's always the digital download, but the game takes half of the Wii U stock memory. Anyone could see that a normal edition would make sense if you spend money in bringing the game to Europe and America. Nintendo invested in localisation but didn't care about distribution. It doesn't make much sense.

@DrJoson No, that's only on the physical package, I know because I downloaded Star Fox 64 3D when it was Selects.

@clvr You're welcome. Yes it should.

@OorWullie Super Mario Sunshine has many memorable moments: aiming F.L.U.D.D. at Petey Piranha in the sky in the first level with water going upwards to the sun; the dusk level with the manta ray flying in the sky, the roller-coaster race against Bowser Jr...

@OorWullie I usually rate them for how good they were/are in terms of gameplay, levels, exploration, etc.

Sunshine (even though getting all blue coins is a nightmare)
SM 64 (although I consider Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo-Tooie to be better, but we're talking about Mario games)
Galaxy 2 (better levels than Galaxy 1)
Galaxy 1 (too many tiny planets)
SM3DW (too linear, no exploration, no flying...)

Now that you mentioned it, the music of SM 64 is not very good and the soundtrack of Sunshine is also my favourite.

EDIT: Correction.

Hide-and-seek with Koroks and the video is such a spoiler telling where they are hiding...

@MasterS7000 Yes, I don't know what to think about Star Rush yet. Let's wait and see. Hopefully it returns to the old formula which was much better.

I'm curious about Paper Mario Colour Splash which coincidentally launches the same day in Europe. Will new Mario Party and Paper Mario games be great or once again disappointing? We'll see.

@clvr Nintendo Selects are €25 in Europe.

@OorWullie The best 3D Mario games are Super Mario 64 and Sunshine. The tiny planets of Galaxy and Galaxy 2 are not that fun to explore. Super Mario 3D World is too linear. Super Mario Sunshine is a bit too hard, I admit that. Super Mario 64/Sunshine should inspire the next 3D Mario game.

@MasterS7000 That's why I didn't enjoy Mario Party 9, and Mario Party 10 is even messier. It's difficult to recommend any of the two. The old Mario Party games were much more fun but the last two are... meh.