
The Wii U hasn't enjoyed particularly good support from third-party publishers but one company that has stuck with the machine longer than most is Ubisoft. Despite being vilified by some Nintendo fans for taking the early Wii U exclusive Rayman Legends multi-platform and delaying Watch Dogs on the console, the French firm stood by the failing system when its rivals have totally given up.
Has the Wii U's dismal commercial performance impacted Ubisoft's view of Nintendo? Not at all, according to CEO Yves Guillemot. Asked by Game Informer if his company will support NX at launch, he said:
You can expect we'll support Nintendo. Nintendo is one of the best partners in the world.
Guillemot went on to explain how the company's approach to supporting the Wii U evolved over time:
We could see it wasn't selling as fast as expected, so we reorganized around other platforms. With the Wii U, we were able to relaunch Rayman 2D. It was a good thing for the company and the brand and its fans. If you remember, it was supposed to be Wii U exclusive, but we made it multi-platform when we saw it wasn't selling fast enough. The Wii U has done quite well. It's still a Nintendo machine with lots of great franchises, and we've sold lots of copies of Just Dance on it.
Ubisoft has taken a lot of flak from the Nintendo community in recent years but it has at least continued to offer support to the Wii U (and even the original Wii) during difficult times. Do you think Guillemot's insistence that NX will get support is worth taking at face value, or do you believe that the firm could be a little more cautious before announcing any big exclusives for the system? Share your feelings with a comment.
[source nintendoeverything.com]
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Lies.
Actions speak louder than words. And you can shove Just Dance where the sun don't shine. Give us parity and I'll listen. Not gimped games, not months later released games and not cut features that the other platform versions have.
I would love for the rumour of Nintendo funding Beyond Good & Evil 2 and it being an NX exclusive to be true. That would be a good start.
Haha
If they're not supporting the WiiU with New games, atleast throw a few games onto the VC
Caution over NX is probably a given but, until we get the NX reveal and know exactly what unique feature it has to offer, it's too hard to call.
Ubisoft and the rest have no plans help Nintendo get the NX off the ground. If there's any lauch support, I doubt there will be third party exclusives. If the launch is handled well though, there may be hope for it.
didnt know it was april fools day
Take one PR generic sentence and make headlines and articles like there's no tomorrow.
Nintendo is one of the best partners, Microsoft is one of the best partners, Sony is one of the best partners, EVERYONE is one of the best partners ^O^/
Ubisoft and Warner Bros. actually supported the Wii U a lot. Sure, a lot of the games were shafted compare to the competitor's counterparts but they still continually to support the Wii U.
You cant blame them for what has happened to the Rayman Legends because in the end of the day, they are still trying to earn a profit (though it does piss me off a little why the PSVita version got more content than the Wii U). Same goes for Zombie U, it was a solid exlusive for a long while but it just didnt rake in any income and so they had to port it in the end. They also continually to release shudder Just Dance...
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Which part, specifically, do you think is a lie?
Why does he call Rayman Legends 'Rayman 2D'? I was confused because of that for a second.
@gcunit He forgot about Rayman Origins and "The Wii U has done quite well". No it hasn't.
@Smitherenez He's talking about how the Wii U helped relaunch Rayman as a 2D franchise(Rayman Legends). Except Rayman Origins did that in the previous generation. And let us not forget the fiasco that delaying Legends caused and its non exclusivity on Wii U anymore.
@Snow-Dust Ubisoft shouldn't be blamed for making Rayman Legends multiplatform (the more players can enjoy is, the better), but for postponing the version for Wii U to launch the game simultaneously on all platforms. Wii U owners had to wait 7 months on a game that was ready to ship. This courtesy is never extended to Wii U, when it's the other way around (i.e. Watch Dogs).
If by "support" they mean sloppy ports and lots of Just Dance then no thanks. If it includes Assassin's Creed, Splinter Cell, Watch_Dogs, etc then bring it on!
@Snader Yea, that was pretty disgusting but that was due to Microsoft's atrocious policy where games are not allowed to be on Xbox if it appeared on other consoles first. Granted, because of that, Ubisoft shot themselves on the foot and lost a lot more sales they couldve from the Wii U owners while the Xbox version made about only 0.2% of the total sales I believe.
The Watchdog one while being pretty bad, it is still not horrible, at least Wii U got the game as opposed to being skipped all together like what most developers do. I got the game on Wii U and it is actually pretty solid in terms of quality, just the game is boring.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Neither of those are lies though. Of course Rayman Legends helped. And the Wii U has done very well, just not necessarily in terms of sales and 3rd party software.
Strange how Ubisoft had so much criticism for delaying Rayman Legends to release it as multi platform. When Nintendo do it with Zelda for Wii U so they can release alongside NX, hardly anyone complains.
"We've sold lots of copies of Just Dance on it."
Lol. Nice justification of your stellar Nintendo support. To be fair, at least you tried with some other franchises (Rayman).
@PGS_71 Because Nintendo seem to always get a second chance... because they're Nintendo. :x
Once you show something that isn't Just Dance then well talk
@PGS_71 your comparing a third party game with a first party game though, Nintendo made the right idea of having it on NX. Ubisoft did it so it could have mult platform, they could have just launch it with Wii U first instead of Wii U owners had wait for the XB360/PS3 version that what upsets everyone
ans i know what your thinking "their doing same thing as ubisoft was" but that's only because the Wii U isn't doing better and Nintendo wants the game to sell on a better console
What we can expect is sarcasm in the comment section.
And I wish I could post this sooner, because I knew I'd be right.
Why to blame Ubisoft when the main problem is Wii U it self ... It's a low standard device and all company find a hard time to port games on it and sometimes it's impossible to do it ... Watch dogs they tried hard to make it work for Wii U and it came months after the launch and yet it's not working perfect on Wii U and Rayman legends is a great game and one of the best games that didn't sell well on Wii U and the company decide to make it out for all consoles and I think it was a good thing to do otherwise they will shut the company down and go through what sega is going through ... Blame it to Nintendo please
... for our first two releases.
Of course they will support Wii U
With Just Dance
all I hear is: BLÁ BLÁ BLÁ
Did we just get trolled by ubisoft!?!
Ubisoft showed great support for Wii U, and will hopefully do the same with NX.
Um, I think he is actually making fun of Nintendo
@peeks "Rayman legends is a great game and one of the best games that didn't sell well on Wii U"
Are you sure? Because I remember that Wii U had the most sales of the game ate the time!
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/09/rayman_legends_sells_more_copies_in_the_uk_on_wii_u_than_any_other_format
@Koniec read this article ... He says it didn't sell well on Wii U that's why it's not exclusive anymore and they had to change the plan and release it on other consoles
Seeing the uncertainty of The future of the Division, Watchdogs, and Assassin's Creed, it would make sense for Ubi to diversify into different demographics beyond the dudebro PS4/XB1 gamer.
I would guess the market Nintendo is after with the NX is appealing to Ubi- the fact they referred to Just Dance implies it will be aimed in part at the casuals that Sony and Microsoft have apparently forgotten.
@MysteryAozz Nintendo delayed zelda so it can go multiplatform
Every time a 3rd party dev says their going to support NX alll the fans claim they are lying and start saying their not going to support them if the NX fails it will be the fans fault not Nintendo's
See you at NX with Beyond good and evil 2 then!!
I'm torn, on the one hand you have the poor Wii U support situation and on the other hand you have the great GC and Wii support situation. What I am almost certain about though is the Rayman Legends delay was actually Microsoft's fault as the Wii U version being released on the original date would've meant no Xbox 360 or Xbox One versions.
Compared to other big western 3rd parties, Ubisoft is one of the better partners Nintendo have. I feel half guilty on the Just Dance part since I do buy the games, but a year later on sale for $20 to $30.
Even with the lack of current support for the Wii U, I believe they have stuff planned for NX. After all they strongly supported Wii, and Wii U in the beginning.
To be honest, even their 'good' games like Assassin's Creed and Watch_Dogs aren't very good in my opinion. My girlfriend likes them, though...
I highly doubt any meaningful support will be coming from Ubisoft.
@PtM i said "Nintendo is moving Zelda to NX, because Wii U isn't doing as good as they want too." and i also said "Rayman should have launched on Wii U as the launch title, and instead of, waiting for it to launch on Xb360 and PS3 version"
@SmashbrosFtw13062 correct. as i stated the Wii U isnt doing as good as Nintendo want them to do. and yes, im saying rayman did the same thing as zelda(although im still happy that they are not cancelling the Wii U version) is. but that's because zelda on Wii U/NX is an open world game and not a 2D Platform game. although i could be wrong about rayman, and it was pushback for more polish, i still think they should have release the game first on Wii U instead of waiting for xb360/PS3 version. (like Zombie U, but im comparing that to a game that launched 2 years later on current gen consoles)
I do think Ubisoft will likely support the NX, but how much Ubisoft will support the NX or for how long I am unsure of. If the NX is really easy to port to I can see the NX getting a fair amount of titles, even if not all the games sell that well they still likely recoup their costs I would imagine.
I think Nintendo kind of needs Ubisoft to help appeal more to the western market, as the western market are likely just getting bigger and bigger. While I personally are more interested in games like Rayman and Child of Light, I do think the NX need games such as Assassin Creeds whether or not we Nintendo fans are specifically interested in them.
In any case, it will be interesting to see how much Ubisoft will support the NX and I am pretty sure we will see some games beside Just Dance no matter what nearly :+).
Could've mentioned how "Rayman 2D" still managed to sell best on Wii U. Just like Sonic Racing Transformed. Games don't have to be dancing simulators to fit Nintendo's market.
@Kimite this, they started off with Just Dance, i really want them to announced more games for NX, how long well they support the console depends on how good sales are, really. i just don't see it yet. i want too. but we already know Just Dance was going be on NX, last year's game was still on Wii U/Wii. as others were. but if the NX isnt going get the support for third party that it needs. then their no point for me to get third party games, and just continued to get those on PS4/XBONE/PC (which i own all three.). while playing Nintendo games only on Nintendo consoles. w e know Just Dance, Lego Games, some Indies, and other license games well always be on all consoles (including Nintendo's. depending on what rated they are though.) .
@MysteryAozz I have no issue with Nintendo releasing Zelda on NX but they don't need to delay the Wii U version to do so. This is no different to what Ubosoft dId with Rayman.
@MysteryAozz I think once the NX are properly announced and maybe depending on the overall fan reactions to the NX, the third party developers such as Ubisoft will likely announce more of their games for the NX.
I think even if the NX having a really slow start due to gamers not liking Nintendo's new potential 'gimmick', I do think we will likely see more third party games than on the Wii U if the NX is easy to port to :+). (Note: I am not saying that the NX has a new 'gimmick', just that there are a potential even though as long as the game are fun and plays well I don't mind).
One part kind of confuse me a bit in terms of what you mean as in one part you say that first that in the sense that if the NX doesn't get third party titles you are sad, but in the other part you say it as in that even if the third party titles are on the NX you will likely get them on other platforms. I assume you meant that if the third party games isn't coming to the NX, you will just get those you want on the other consoles, which is understandable :+).
Yeah, NX is likely going to get Lego games and other similar license titles no matter what, and indie titles will likely come to the NX as well even if it take a little longer depending on when they receive a development kit for the NX.
I am not a person who play Nintendo only on Nintendo machines if I get a chance to, as I really like games from the Japanese side of gaming industry such as Nintendo, Square Enix, Level-5, Bandai Namco, PlatinumGames, Capcom, Koei Tecmo and so and would really like the NX to be a console big on those kind of companies at least ^^. (They are the companies that make games that Nintendo fans in general want the most it seems to me).
Anyway, in terms of Ubisoft I am not sure if we can expect NX exclusive games at NX launch to say, but I am pretty sure there will be at least one game from Ubisoft beside Just Dance 2017 at NX's launch :+).
Ubisoft might good for localizing USA version of some NDS and Wii games from Japan version such as Gold's Gym Cardio Workout Wii, The Dog Island Wii & PS2, etc but they did worse for some titles also such as Jake Power series on NDS (the worst game that i have ever played), Pet Dogz for NDS ( Ochaken no Heya NDS in Japan, also there was Koinu no Heya, basically ripped-off from Ochaken no Heya), The Smurf 2015 3DS, etc. The other thing from Ubisoft straightly, i don't like at all. Just Dance ? NO, THANKS. I would rather choose DDR. Some Mature games from Ubisoft ? HELL NO. If Ubisoft just ONLY localizing for some Japanese titles, i still consider to purchase IF the title is matching with my taste. Otherwise, just big MEH from me. Btw, what's a big deal with Just Dance ? I can move my body with my music selections from my PC or my MP3 player rather than HAVE to dance with the songlist that really-really BLAH (because too Western) and must moving my body based on the silhouette ? I would rather choose DANCE EVOLUTION from Konami for better version. I really enjoy songs such as Afronova Primeval, Hana Ranman and almost Konami original songs. Not by BLAH Western songs like nowadays.
Well in the case of another third party disaster, I still have my trusty PC!
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Came here to say something along those lines. You pretty much summed up everything I hated about Ubisoft's "support" on Wii U. Their ports were half a- I mean, didn't use any of the potential the GamePad had and were uninnovative delayed cash grabs. Watch_Dogs U was a perfect example of this. Tons of people were hyped when it was announced for the system and, like me, expected Ubisoft to capitalise on its main gimmick by putting hacking features on the GamePad for seamless gameplay. But Ubisoft, wanting to punish Wii U gamers who didn't buy their inferior ports, decided to remove a bunch of features and add in the standard "off-screen play and active map on GamePad screen" schtick that most Wii U games of W_D's genre have. Also, it was delayed. So by the time it came out 6 months after it was release on every other platform, people knew it was overhyped to immense levels and not worth full price. It's like they didn't want to make a superior version on the Wii U and instead wanted it to fail to prove Mr. Guillemot's statement about Wii U gamers.
@Kimite i would'nt be sad, i just see no point of getting any 3rd party title on NX or Wii U, unless it has more support, i also don't want game tht well lack DLc, so if i wanted all this stuff might as well get the xbone/ps4/pc. what im saying is i would love of Nintendo gets the attention as Microsoft and sony does. but if thier not. what my point of getting third party games on a Nintendo Console that has less support stuff and not on like a XBONE or PS4, that gets all the supports, exclusives is one thing, but Nintendo not getting DLC for some games, is odd.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE You are talking from a consumer point of view, but hey, dont forget they are a company, they dont do charity to the fans, they need to make a profit. If the console is not giving them that they will drop its support, simple as that, its easy to complain but we must understand that.
@Lewieboy124 Dont forget that they gave us ZombiU, for about two years it was the only game, including Nintendo titles that fully used the gamepad, it gave us the experience that Nintendo promised but failed to achieve.
I waited to buy Watch Dogs on Wii U, because I was thankful that even when every other third party was not supporting the console anymore, they were. It was too late for the game? yes, it was, it needed a lot more optimization. But they are a company that must make a profit for their shareholders on a yearly basis, if they put too much resources on a game that wont sell they are wasting those resources that could be producing a game on other platforms that would sell for sure, so which option to pick is easy and you dont need a PhD for that. They will do the same with the NX, they will give support at launch, if it fails to sell they wont anymore.
@FreakFerrett "But they are a company that must make a profit for their shareholders on a yearly basis"
Exactly. You know a company is soulless when they're pumping out yearly releases just to make a profit to appease their investors and if a new game part of an IP/genre of games on a certain platform fails to make a massive profit, they'll drop it/stop porting games of that genre to that system instead of looking at what went wrong and how to improve on it.
Do you think Nintendo stopped developing entries in the Super Mario Bros franchise when they saw that Super Mario Bros USA and The Lost Levels combined only sold around a quarter of what the original game sold?
Yes release some launch games and then run away from the console later. This has always being UbiSoft's model, it's too bad the only games I enjoy from them are from the Rayman series otherwise I wouldn't bother with them at all.
@MysteryAozz I see what you mean now and yeah I understand, you don't want to get the Nintendo version if it doesn't have all of the extra content if the other consoles are getting the extra stuff.
I am not sure if I think the Nintendo versions will get the extra DLC or not, but if the NX versions sells well enough I would think the extra DLC/content are coming or at least are more likely to come :+).
There's a grain of truth in this. In the 7th generation despite the fact their support was on average shovel ware tier their support of their Wii they managed to produce Just Dance which for a while was their biggest series outselling Assassin's Creed. They kind of proved that a company didn't need to be Nintendo to sell multi-millions on the Nintendo platform.
Though this is dependant on Nintendo capturing a specific audience that Sony and Microsoft never do. I think what we saw with the WiiU was "insurance" in the case of another Wii size success.
Time will tell, I guess.
Ubi have been good to Wii U. About as good as any third party could be considering it's underpowered and sold so poorly...
@SmashbrosFtw1306 thats not true, Just Dance must be doing really well to continued to be on development for Wii/Wii U, along with Nordic bring Legends of Kay, that Book of unwritten 2 game, as well. so it may not be the fans fault, it still somewhat ask the question on should NX get a better 3rd party support. because if Wii U wasn't it wouldn't have those license games (such as lego, and just dance) so i disagree, i don't think it's the fans fault.
Hopefully the NX will get more games ported properly and released along side with the other systems.
Child of light was pretty awesome too.
AC:III, AC:IV, Splinter Cell Blacklist, Zombi U, Watch_Dogs, Rayman Legends, etc. How quickly people forgets that Ubisoft has being probably the biggest Wii U third-party supporter. Let's hope the jump back on the support with the NX. I wanna play Watch_Dogs 2
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Ubisoft was pretty much all WiiU had after the first release of 3rd party launch titles. It was a rough time being a WiiU console gamer this gen, and blame was thrown everywhere but at Nintendo,. Now, months/years later after reflecting, I applaud Ubisoft for what they tried to do. Nintendo, and Nintendo only, is all there is to blame for lack of 3rd party support. Only time will tell if they learned their lesson after all the mistakes they made with WiiU.
The NX will be my first ever Nintendo console that I will not pre-order and purchase Day 1. I need to see and believe what they have to offer next round.
I don't think people understand Ubisoft is a business, I don't blame Ubisoft one bit for hardly supporting the Wii U. Ubisoft was one of the main Wii U supporters even when they knew the Wii U was selling poorly, they even started making an exclusive game for it (Rayman Legends) but they probably realised it wouldn't cover the development costs being Wii U only hence the reasons for multiplatform. Where was Nintendo? couldn't they helped to keep it a Wii U exclusive? All the blame is on Ubisoft from Nintendo fanboys/fangirls, even though Nintendo could have done a lot more apart from nothing.
Now granted that partnership was some sleight of hand with the pulling of exclusivity and unnecessary delays/bad ports, but they did still support the Wii U more than any other major 3rd Party. I think it's still even telling that they are the only major 3rd Party (if you don't include SE's slip up about the NX) who has already pledged some support for NX.
Why are so many against Ubisoft? They've always supported Nintendo platforms. If their next system sells at good pace and it has parity with other platforms then of course they'll support it. It would even have an equal number of games.
We're not talking Take-Two or Bethesda here.
@Koniec Selling the best doesn't mean the same thing as selling well, and that's assuming that it even did sell the best on the Wii U. Every time I've checked, it's sold the best on either PS3 or PS4. Doesn't really matter either way though, the game didn't sell very much on any 1 particular platform, and that would have magically changed by releasing earlier on Wii U with an even smaller install base. The cumulative sales figures don't seem bad though. Obviously, going multiplatform was the right choice for them.
@peeks Right on!!!
Wii u's a great system and still just an infant in its life cycle. Of coarse alot of people are right into abortion. Shame on you.
Ubisoft never said they were good partners.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!! Pull the other one, Ubi! There's a reason I'm boycotting you.
@brandonbwii Ubisoft gave watered down versions of Assassin's Creed III and IV, no options for collector's editions for those games, gave a terrible version of a terrible game (Watch Dogs), and delaying a game (Rayman Legends) mere weeks before its release just so you could release it on multiple platforms and offering a demo as compensation. Then, they abandon Nintendo's platforms after Watch Dogs with the only sign of life from them towards the Big N being a digital only title that they were only publishing and not making themselves. Plus, there's a very real possibility that a Nintendo platform won't even see Beyond Good & Evil 2 when it eventually releases, despite the GameCube version being so well received. It's been a disgraceful relationship on their part.
@MasterGraveheart
The fact that Watch Dogs is a bad game has nothing to do with their Nintendo support. They released games to the best of their ability given the time restraints. As for support after Watch Dogs, NO ONE supported Nintendo at that time so why would they? They did the smart thing by abandoning a sinking ship that even Nintendo had a hard time supporting, so does that mean you hate every third party?
If there's any problem to be had with Ubisoft it's the exclusive kid-focused garbage they used to put on Wii and DS that helped poison the market. Even then it was off set by quality releases like Rabbids Go Home, Red Steel 2, and exclusive versions of franchise games built from the ground up for the system (Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands comes to mind).
@CTMike Am i able to bet with you on that? $100USD in an escrow account and I get it if you are wrong? Where do you get your facts from or by your certainty you are actually making predictions?
@keatonhj no, no, guesswork, it wasn't supposed to be factual- no one knows. BUT I firmly believe that, unless the hardware idea is somewhere near Wii-level innovative and clicks for a solid launch we'll see the same third parties pull out early. And I was talking about exclusives.
You're really willing to bet me that there will be third party exclusives at launch?
The point remains that I believe it really will be something great, I have faith.
@PGS_71 That's because most gamers are idiots. Self-centered fanboys. I don't really like Ubisoft games but they were one of the few third party developers that heavily invested in the Wii and Wii U. And one of the very few ones with mature games and exclusives. Red Steel I & II, Zombi U, Assassins Creed, Splinter Cell, Watch Dogs etc.
Of course, ungrateful crybabies complain about a logical business move they had to make, because most gamers on other platforms aren't interested in buying old Wii U games.
@BigKing That's a late reply, nearly a year after my post. I agree with you though.
@PGS_71 It must've been late and I was probably bored, clicking on related articles, not knowing they're old as hell
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