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@SMW Yep, just wait until you find a good deal, when Scorpio is released perhaps Xbox One S will be quite cheap.

@Kid_Sickarus Good, one of the main differences must be colour. My first Metroid was Metroid Prime.

@Kid_Sickarus I'm curious about downloading both Metroid II and AM2R, and I'm not even a Metroid 2D fan (I am more a Metroid Prime fan).

@Onion Yes, you are probably right. I ignore what Sega has done outside the Sonic agreement. And yes, funny that some people have accused me here of being a Sony fanboy, they should read my posts on PushSquare! Why I would I hate Nintendo and have a Wii U and a new 3DS, in between?

About Capcom, all I know is how shy they acted when they asked those fans to stop the Resident Evil 2 Remake, I think Capcom was already planning to make Resident Evil 2 Remake themselves and actually their cancelation request came quite early, they didn't wait until the project was advanced. After all, Capcom had already done the Resident Evil 0 and 1 remake remasters, so it's not surprise Resident Evil 2 was next.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Thanks.

@Syrek24 LOL If I was overly sensitive I would not defend other people on Nintendo Life like I do but I would hide myself as much as I could. I really think you and @-DEMISE- are "rabble-rousers" (using your words) and also hypocrite and that act like Nintendo's lawyers without being paid, which is quite stupid, if you ask me, so I really think you are the ones not enjoying games but just obsessed with defending a company that doesn't care about you and will never do.

I'm just a gamer, an intelligent gamer with an opinion. I buy, I play, I say what I like and what I don't like, it's that simple. You guys only reply when I "don't like" something, aggressively, because you are here only to defend Nintendo, not to talk about games, not to agree or disagree and certainly not to discuss.

@Dr_Lugae I have to disagree with comment #186. When Capcom asked Resident Evil 2 unofficial remake to stop I remember that the post that Capcom published was very friendly and they even asked fans if they wanted Capcom to make a Resident Evil 2 remake. Now, the hype for Resident Evil 2 Remake is huge, even bigger than Resident Evil 7 hype, and it all started with a fan project.

@Onion I had no idea of Sega shutting that down, I only mentioned the case of Christian Whitehead working with Sega after he had already made an iOS Sonic port which was not licensed in the beginning.

@Syrek24 Are you talking about us or about you and @-DEMISE-? Because they only rabble-rousers I'm reading here are you two.

@Uzuki I wanted to reply to you because of your kind words, but I don't know what else can I say about that. I think that Virtual Console games are expensive except Metroid Prime Trilogy when it was €10 and if they release Super Mario All Stars for €8 then it's fine. So many NES and SNES games going for 5-10 each without cross-buy option, just look at the other stores, look at other classic compilations, Nintendo's pricing is just not right. I voice my opinion here, on Miiverse and wherever. Someone will listen. As for the "buy it for the console you play the most" argument, well, if I was nice enough to buy both consoles, it would be nice if Nintendo didn't sell me the same stuff twice.

@nab1 in reply to @earthboundlink's Good, but I never said that Nintendo should not protect their IPs, all I said was that Nintendo should be clever. Take Sega's example of working with fans/new developers in making the Sonic remakes and even a brand-new game (Sonic Mania). Nintendo has the right to shut down Metroid 2 remake, but this is not going to help them in any way. I don't even think the remake steals any Metroid II sales but the opposite, it makes more people curious about old Metroid games.

@aaronsullivan I know, it's because @-DEMISE- started it this morning being rude to everybody and I just replied to him twice and he called people ignorant just because they didn't agree with him, so sad... And now on this thread he started the fight again, it's like he really likes getting some attention even though he's not capable of getting it in any way other than being disrespectful, so that's all he can do.

@-DEMISE- It would have sounded so pretentious if I mentioned myself, although I know you are extremely pretentious so probably it would have not surprised you at all.

@bogofet Both things work for me.

@Syrek24 Yes, you are very mature...

Syrek24: "the whiny children like yourself (...) you're more than welcome to hit the road (...)".

And I quote you because I always see the same attitude in you, I know you were not talking about me but you were being quite hypocrite.

@earthboundlink No, I didn't say that, but I'm happy to explain it to you again. I said that Sega was clever when they cooperated with Christian Whitehead instead of suing him of whatever. Actually, I said that fans were better than Sega when it comes to making Sonic games, and that's only because the original Sonic creators don't work for Sega any more. If you ask me, I would love them to work with Sega as freelancers, like David Wise on Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze, but that's another story. As for Nintendo's Seal of Quality, well, after the GameCube era ended we all know that it does not mean much...

@Uzuki Well, if no one complains, it's like Nintendo is right and they can rise those prices even more and that we agree with removing the cross-buy option they started with.

I am one of the guys that took part of the bring-Project-Zero-to-Europe-and-America movement and we got what we asked for. Complaining is good as long as you think your intentions are good. At the end of the day, we both could live without video games, but if I'm taking part of this, I want to voice my opinion.

@Wolfgabe I don't think @Kirk would call anybody mindless just because they agree with Nintendo about "protecting" their IPs, he is talking about people that don't think as gamers but as Nintendo's lawyers without being paid for, actually he was answering this comment of mine:

"There's one thing I don't understand. I'm not a fan of 2D Metroid games, but if I was and I was not able to download this version, as a Metroid fan I would be very annoyed, yet some people here are more Nintendo lawyers than players or fans. Weird".

@-DEMISE- You try to sound clever but you sound like a five years old troll, you try to be at @Kirk's level in vain, lacking the reasoning and intelligence, calling people ignorant repeatedly, not only us but you called bad names people this morning without being necessary, because you are always first starting a fight. Your arguments are: I am right and you are ignorant.

@MasterS7000 Thanks for your reply. You have a point, some people wouldn't even pay €1 for any game. And, if they could, they wouldn't pay anything at the supermarket either. And here I am, I have spent thousands of euros on Nintendo stuff in my life, now being scolded by mindless apologists.

@-DEMISE- Yeah, it's an understatement, I don't understand anything about you. Well, now I do, because now I know what you are (one of those sheep).

@nab1

@Uzuki But how much more money do they want to charge for 30 year-old games that are a few megabytes big? The server argument is over-inflated. Besides, Nintendo is going the wrong way. On Wii U you only paid a small fee for downloading the same Virtual Console games (since day one). On 3DS you pay the same full price again: €8 for a SNES (or even €10), €5 for a NES game and so on, shutting down the almost-cross-buy option they started with. Now look at the other digital stores: good pricing, cross-buy, freebies, etc. Nintendo is stuck behind times and with little success as the main consequence.

@Kirk, yeah, it's unbelievable. I'm a gamer. What are they?

@nab1 Thomas Whitehead is one of our dear Nintendo staffers. You mean Christian Whitehead.

There's one thing I don't understand. I'm not a fan of 2D Metroid games, but if I was and I was not able to download this version, as a Metroid fan I would be very annoyed, yet some people here are more Nintendo lawyers than players or fans. Weird.

@Kirk And we'll have to be quick downloading it before Nintendo shuts it down.

@Kirk Is Mother 4 finished?

@MasterS7000 I particularly don't agree. I think it's fair paying once a fair price, but paying a relatively high price more than once for the same game makes me feel ripped-off, and that's what Nintendo does. I also believe piracy would be smaller if Nintendo was not that stingy.

@FNL Well, he got the attention, that would be a very clever thing to do now, actually.

@Wolfgabe If you read again his comment you will find there's hypocrisy in it. About the old NES/GB cartridges comparison that you made, I'll try to explain myself again. What I said was that Nintendo's Virtual Console downloads are "relatively expensive". Those 30 year-old games should be cheaper by now when they are just a few megabytes downloads. The way Nintendo deals with their old games feels a rip-off, specially if you consider there's no cross-buy. I'm still waiting for Super Mario All Stars on the eShop, but Nintendo probably needs another 30 years of selling the same NES versions at 5 euro/dollars each to the same customers.

EDIT: NES and GB downloads should cost €1 each, not €5-10. Higher prices mean less sales and more piracy.

@Kirk Yep, that's exactly what I said earlier:

"I like how Sega deals with these things. They make agreements with fans that are better than themselves (like Christian Whitehead). That way they make remasters and even new games (like Sonic Mania) working with fans/new developers and they all get some extra money".

@CharlieSmile €5 ($5) for a NES rom and €20 for a Wii rom (with Miiverse support) is overcharging. Of course you could do worse things with your money (like buying an old copy of ET the video game) but Nintendo's pricing is relatively expensive when compared to every other digital store. You can't compare digital downloads and cinema tickets!

@Syrek24 And why don't you let people complain about whatever they want to on a comments section? And why don't you spend your time on playing games rather than telling those people to shut up their mouths, following your clever reasoning? If you want to be that happy playing games, that's fine, but I don't think you really mean it.

@LUIGITORNADO Actually, comments saying Nintendo should become third party are not evil nor wrong. If Nintendo didn't publish any games for mobile phones and somebody said that they should publish games for mobile phones, Nintendo apologists would say that those people are haters. If Nintendo does it, then misteriously it becomes something logical and good.

As a traditional player, I'd prefer Nintendo making traditional games for Xbox, PS and PC than making mobile apps and wasting time on under-powered hardware people no longer want (like Wii U and probably NX).

@NoEasyBuckets Hm, I did not say that. What do you mean? Are you serious?

Hoewever, I wonder why Sega has not hired Sonic creators back...

Another example that comes to mind is Resident Evil 2 Remake. There were fans making it and then Capcom came and kindly asked them to stop, almost embarrassed. Capcom asked fans if they wanted a Resident Evil 2 Remake, fans (including myself) said yes and Capcom is making it.

In general, you have to protect your IPs, but be smart, Nintendo!

@PleaseUnderstan Yep, Nintendo should spend less money on lawyers and more money on games and marketing. I mean, proper games, not Amiibo Festival and Amiibo Happy Home Designer which are fine as extras but not as full price retail games.

@gcunit I like how Sega deals with these things. They make agreements with fans that are better than themselves (like Christian Whitehead). That way they make remasters and even new games (like Sonic Mania) working with fans/new developers and they all get some extra money. I understand that Nintendo is worried about their IPs but they are not being very smart and they are not getting a good reputation either with this kind of decisions. Nintendo is stuck with the original versions and selling them multiple times to the same users for a relatively high price.

I just checked, I did not know that the game was released for mobile phones:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_Mr._Pants

But it's not available on Google Play...

@AlanJones84 That is true, there's a video about it on Rare Replay.

@gcunit Yes, because I understand what you mean now, I will correct them as I did and if it gets repetitive then I'll report.

@SMW You guys should get an Xbox One or Xbox One S and Rare Replay because you get 30 of the best Rare games, excluding Donkey Kong Country trilogy which you can get on Wii U or 3DS and Diddy Kong Racing and Goldeyene which stay as Nintendo 64 exclusives. Donkey Kong 64 is the other game that comes to mind but you can get it on Nintendo 64 if you want (and it's not one of my favourites, to be honest).

Some of the games on Rare Replay are remastered. For instance, Grabbed by the Ghoulies which plays great at 60fps 1080p. Conker's Bad Fur Day looks great at 1080p, too. Perfect Dark, Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo-Tooie are the 360 remakes. Killer Instinct Gold was one childhood favourite but haven't aged well (and you can get Killer Instinct 3 for free anyway). I'm even enjoying the Spectrum games (thanks to the rewind feature)!

My first Pokemon game was Ruby (GBA) but just recently I got Pokemon Y. I hope I like it.

The worst thing is the name. One of the things I like about Pokemon is that they are partly educational but uranium makes me think of cruel Mr Burns and dangerous nuclear power plants...

This game is fun when you start, but after a few months you realise that you need tons of coins (whether you buy them or get 500 freely every day) to be able to beat the stages. Then it's when it becomes a pay-to-win or wait-to-win game and when it stops being that fun.

@gcunit Thanks for your reply. If you read my post, you have seen that I didn't mention Sony and I did not call anybody a "Nintendo fanboy", which were his (unfair) accusations. I was just praising Street Fighter V update (that's Capcom, not Sony) because I got the game and I like it. I admit it was not a complete game when it launched (and I said that on PushSquare) but I wanted to be honest and let people know that now it's great. Besides, I really think some people would love the game if it was available on a Nintendo console and they actually try it, but we both know that for some people a game is bad when it's not available for their favourite console, whatever it is, and most probably they haven't even played it, yet they are happy to only have the SNES versions on their Nintendo consoles. I was not being "hypocrite" and I did not call anybody a "Nintendo fanboy". Actually, I said that Street Fighter V is the only PS4 game I play frequently (that is how much a Sony fanboy I am!). He said that I was calling people "Nintendo fanboys" and that I was saying that "Sony is perfect", which are lies and also a distorted interpretation to the point I honestly thought he was not talking about me. Then, when I asked him, he confirmed his accusations and I think that is flaming, because those accusations are lies and the tone was unfriendly, you must agree about that, so I reported him. Do you understand me now? It's not nice being accused of things I did not even mention. I know my life on NintendoLife would be easier if all I said were silly comments about how great is everything but then I wouldn't be myself (and I would be a boring user to read). Even NintendoLife staffers (like @ThomasBW84) can be quite critical when talking about Nintendo and I really appreciate that. One more thing, I like Nintendo Life (and @PureXbox) because they are not delusional, while being on @PushSquare and being slightly objective can be quite complicated because of you know who.

I hope you understand me now.

@-DEMISE- Whatever, looks like you have far more free time than me. Just one last thing, you shouldn't call other people ignorant just because you have a different point of view.

@-DEMISE- Nope, yours is wrong - and biased.

What's this? Go go Power Rangeeeeers!

@gcunit

My reflection about this...

· Forum rule: "Do not flame others".

This is what you don't see sometimes depending on the person. This is what I never do.

· Forum rule: "While we do allow members to debate and voice their own opinions, there will be a limit to how far a heated debate can go before it is closed by staff".

This is what I do, to voice my opinion, and I'm fine. Some people who don't agree with me flame me, hate me and insult me. That is not allowed and you should stop it.

· Forum rule: "please be constructive in your response"

That is what I do when I don't agree with someone.

I already said that @Kirk could have expressed himself better yesterday. No matter what I do you don't seem to approve my words. I reported a person who insulted me as you recently asked me to do, but even so doesn't seem to satisfy you (the other message you sent me).

I am a peaceful person and I don't expect that we all agree, there are things that I like and things that I don't like about Nintendo and Nintendo Life, my problem is that I don't agree with everything that Nintendo does and some people here would kill/die because of that... At the end of the day, this is not so important, they are companies and we are customers (for you it is business), but some people make it look like this is war and we are warriors and, if I say something against Nintendo, I'm a traitor.

@gcunit "As you chose to publicise that you reported bitleman, can I just ask what part of his post you felt was abusive?"

Are you being serious with me? You should know what kind of comments are hating and flaming by now and I replied to his hatred quite politely. Anyway, these are Bitleman's comments:

@VanillaLake "Why are you accusing anyone who tell the smallest criticism about Sony to be a Nintendo fanboy? Do you think Sony is perfect or something? That would tell a lot about your comment."

@VanillaLake "Don't be hypocritical you were implying it. And your statement was wrong anyway (...) find another excuse than it's just Nintendo fanboys hating."

And now my only comments on the thread, tell me if I am hater, a Sony fanboy and a flamer OR if he's the one hating and flaming me. Look at my reply to him. My only crime is not saying that Nintendo is always right.

VanillaLake comments:

#3 No multiplayer, no cross-buy... Nintendo still has to enter the 21st century.

#7 @SanderEvers SFV is great now after the free update.

#17 Agreed, after the update Street Fighter V has become one of the best fighting games ever. One of the few PS4 games I play frequently, but it's also on PC, in case anyone is interested in it.
Moreover, I did what you told me to do last time.

#21 You are right. Digital old games should be cheaper, there's no excuse for charging €5 for a NES rom these days and Nintendo is the only one who has this ridiculous pricing scheme.

#24 @samuelvictor For my nostalgia, SSFII. I also played SFIIT at a friend's place but as you said the higher turbo options are unplayable. @Piersen Correct.

#36 That's why I'd love the arcade versions of Street Fighter on 3DS (which is technically capable of emulating them).

#42 @pandarino Some people here would love Street Fighter V if it had a Wii U version.

#53 @bitleman I think you wanted to reply to someone else, I did not call anybody a Nintendo fanboy nor I was praising Sony at all.

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@-DEMISE- ". But in general, if you're complaining about the quality of Nintendo's remakes, then you're overlooking the obvious in favor of your dedication to complaining".

Why is my opinion a dedication to complaining? I am only talking about remasters I have bought and played, why can't I say my opinion about them? The Wind Waker HD is not a great remaster, it even has the same slowdowns and very mild visual enhancements compared to the original. I read those articles about Wind Waker HD before getting it because I was curious, there are a few things that look better but definitely it's not like Resident Evil Remake or Skyrim Remaster, to give you two examples. The Wind Waker HD is a very lazy remaster done by Nintendo that retailed full price. It's not fair accusing people that expected something more like you're doing, so please don't accuse me of being what I am not and don't tell me to read when I have the games. I bought them, I played them. As for Twilight Princess, there are many textures that are new but the lighting is the same. I won't complain much about Twilight Princess because it's one of my favourite games, but the remaster is less than what other companies do. Tantulus' effort is bigger than Nintendo's, though, since Twilight Princess HD has more realistic visuals and reworked textures while The Wind Waker has some improvements regarding lighting but the textures are pretty the same. Don't tell me to read when I have the games on my TV and I can see them and play them.

@greengecko007 Agreed. I don't see any special effort in Nintendo's remakes/remasters, specially when compared to what other companies do. I bought Twilight Princess HD because it's one of my favourite games ever, but it's not a great effort, honestly. Nintendo paid something to somebody to do it. Nintendo did not paid nor gave enough time for something better. As for The Wind Waker HD, which I also got, is an even worse remaster and was made by Nintendo.

The Virtual Console on Wii and Wii U is another example of very poor efforts made by Nintendo where games are looking the same or even worse than they did originally. There you have Microsoft with remasters of old games (Rare Replay) for €1 each, or even Sony and their PS2 downloads (1080p with trophy support). Nintendo has much to learn in that sense.