Those people who spread the "truth", but are actually like the "fanboys" they want the spread the "truth" to and their circle of mutual adoration is quite ridiculous.
Do you sit in the head of other people? I find it tiring how people base things on assumptions without having any evidence.
@JaxonH #211 Great comment. ^^ I fully agree with you. I actually wanted to write something similar.
Like @JaxonH said, many of the potential consumers probably don't look into things too much. They see software or a feature that looks interesting and decide based on that. Because if the Wii U doesn't sell because of the account system and things like that, the XOne should sell even less, what with the reveal fiasco and the everwatching eye. It seems to me that many just take something they don't like about the Wii U and then apply it to all consumers. To do that one would have to make a market analysis first.
@Yorumi #129 I don't get it either. What I like about the Wii U is that it is the way it is. I don't want them to sell out to some everchanging trends for a few more sales that might never happen. Like you said in another comment, it's better to cater to the audience they have than to go after an audience who probably won't be convinced anyway. I think it is their strong point that they offer a different experience to the other consoles.
It's always surprising with these kinds of articles that some seem to know exactly what is going on inside a company.
@Goginho I agree. And who would then take responsibility for failures. The fans? And which fans should they listen to anyway? It's not like "the fans" all have the same opinions.
@Tritonus It's not about no games and no advertisement, though. Games sell systems, yes, but people are like "Release that game and then it will sell millions of consoles" despite "that game" having extremely low sales in the past and not being considered a "system seller". And advertising doesn't consists of spending a huge amount of money and see if it returns eventually. The other two seem to operate on "spend then earn" and this isn't really the way to go. I think with more software there will be more hardware advertisement, because there will a greater library to advertise for that could entice different audiences.
I agree with those who say that it's also a matter of sales. I have a theory that those 3rd parties sell well which are similar to the 1st party offerings. And this can be applied to the other two consoles, too, because those two also have 3rd party games that don't sell too well.
I wished that 3rd parties would just say that after analyzing the market they see that porting to the Wii U wouldn't earn them money. I don't know if 3rd parties couldn't do something like pre-orders to see the demand? Those would have to be binding, though. Otherwise pre-orders would get cancelled and sales would turn out much lower.
I think the Wii U could be the get to console for budget conscious 3rd parties. There are reports on the other two being much more expensive to develop for, so we will see how this turns out.
Would better hardware, being easy to port to, charging for online or proper accounts really result in more 3rd party support? What would happen if the Wii U was to get every 3rd party multiplat? Quite a few people probably wouldn't even bother getting another console. And what would that mean for the other two? The Wii U will likely be fine with 1st party and exclusives. But what about the other two?
If you watch the first trailer again, you will see that it shows multiplayer similar to Monster Hunter. You see players about to fight against some dinosaur-like being and you can even see them chatting.
You can look at the GamePad in a different way, too.
Do you remember the girl who was able to play a game basically for the first time thanks to the GamePad, a WiiMote and Nabbit? The GamePad has the possibility to let people play games who weren't able to do so before. And even if it would only be that one girl, that's one more person who got happiness out of playing.
@gameboy1975 @SirGreatNose I agree with both of you.
The kinda funny thing is though that the people who constantly critisize something and call everyone who likes it blind or fanboys or even blind fanboys, while they themselves are the "true fans", often don't realize that they are just the other extreme of a fanboy.
I saw an article about the first week sales of Galaxy that someone posted and it read basically exactly like this one. I don't know from which site it was though.
It is definately too early to draw any conclusions.
@GalacticMario28 Well, next week the Family Set with Wii Fit U will be available in stores. It can only be ordered online until then, so it might move some more consoles.
Well, Poles seem to be more about PC gaming. And if it's consoles it's either Playstation or Xbox. There are even promotions like buying a mobile phone and getting one of those for 1 zloty or something.
Edit to last post. Aminka was only shown in the Japanese one. ^^;
I quite like the Animal Crossing Plaza. It is nice to spot animals who live in my town or once lived there. (Cube and Drift. ;_; ) I only own City Folk, though, so I don't have much to do there.
@V8_Ninja That's the thing. If they would change each and every moveset people would complain about the new movesets for characters they've mastered, because they would have to master them again. While some might like such a challange, some won't.
I don't get why people have to be so sarcastic about this addition. We will get many more confirmations of characters who were a given. They didn't even prepare a movie for Luigi and just showed some screenshots. It wasn't like 'Look, at this great additon that no one thought would happen, but we added it to everyone's surprise. Now, get excited!!!!!1111!!!!!1'.
They showed Audrey Drake during the presentation. lol Well not her, but her Animal Crossing character. I don't think there is another Aminka, so it must have been her.
@CasuallyDressed #214 You really didn't do that, did you? Sorry, but you can't take ports and compare them to a remake. Also, it isn't even out yet, so we can't say exactly how much was changed or added. When you do actually play it you might find that it's the best remake ever made.
Isn't this a remake, as in they actually remake it? Make it one more time? And it is called lazy, because of that? But merely remastering it would be fine? That is just like people complaining about rehashing, but when it was stated that there are not many new things that could be added to F-Zero, people said they would be fine with new tracks and the addition of online multiplayer, though this would be what rehashing actually is, add little to no new content. This is really getting ridiculous.
I never played the original, but after Phantom Hourglass I wanted to, so the remake is really great for me.
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Re: Ubisoft Refuses to Comment on Watch_Dogs Wii U Cancellation Rumours
Those people who spread the "truth", but are actually like the "fanboys" they want the spread the "truth" to and their circle of mutual adoration is quite ridiculous.
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U's 'Relevance' Is About Sales, Nintendo's Strategy Has Remained Consistent
Do you sit in the head of other people? I find it tiring how people base things on assumptions without having any evidence.
@JaxonH #211
Great comment. ^^ I fully agree with you. I actually wanted to write something similar.
Like @JaxonH said, many of the potential consumers probably don't look into things too much. They see software or a feature that looks interesting and decide based on that. Because if the Wii U doesn't sell because of the account system and things like that, the XOne should sell even less, what with the reveal fiasco and the everwatching eye.
It seems to me that many just take something they don't like about the Wii U and then apply it to all consumers. To do that one would have to make a market analysis first.
Re: Video: Feast Your Tired And Weary Eyes On This Fresh Puyo Puyo Tetris Footage
This looks kinda crazy. I want it. =3
Re: Iwata Accepts Responsibility For Poor Financial Results, Ignores Calls To Resign
@Yorumi #129
I don't get it either.
What I like about the Wii U is that it is the way it is. I don't want them to sell out to some everchanging trends for a few more sales that might never happen. Like you said in another comment, it's better to cater to the audience they have than to go after an audience who probably won't be convinced anyway.
I think it is their strong point that they offer a different experience to the other consoles.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Wii U Struggles Bring a Challenge, Not Doom
It's always surprising with these kinds of articles that some seem to know exactly what is going on inside a company.
@Goginho
I agree.
And who would then take responsibility for failures. The fans?
And which fans should they listen to anyway? It's not like "the fans" all have the same opinions.
Re: Satoru Iwata Explains Reduced Projections and "Large Margin" 3DS and Wii U Sales Misses
@Tritonus
It's not about no games and no advertisement, though.
Games sell systems, yes, but people are like "Release that game and then it will sell millions of consoles" despite "that game" having extremely low sales in the past and not being considered a "system seller".
And advertising doesn't consists of spending a huge amount of money and see if it returns eventually. The other two seem to operate on "spend then earn" and this isn't really the way to go. I think with more software there will be more hardware advertisement, because there will a greater library to advertise for that could entice different audiences.
Re: Iwata Accepts Responsibility For Poor Financial Results, Ignores Calls To Resign
@Einherjar
I agree with that last sentence. Though I think you might mean something else than I think, but well. ^^;
@TwoTheNines
lol
Re: First Impressions: Kirby: Triple Deluxe Is Three Times More Fun Than Most Other 3DS Games
@Kimimi
It's fine. ^^ I mean, biggu ban is kinda weird, because one would likely expect it to be biggu bangu instead.
I don't game on PC, but I might look into it. The picture looks nice, at least.
Thank you. ^^
Re: First Impressions: Kirby: Triple Deluxe Is Three Times More Fun Than Most Other 3DS Games
@Kimimi
It is Japanese for Big Bang, though, is what I wanted to write, but someone else told you, so just ignore my comment. ^^;
Nice avatar, by the way. May I ask where it's from?
Re: Talking Point: Claims of Wii U Third-Party Development Troubles Shouldn't Be Dismissed Lightly
I agree with those who say that it's also a matter of sales. I have a theory that those 3rd parties sell well which are similar to the 1st party offerings. And this can be applied to the other two consoles, too, because those two also have 3rd party games that don't sell too well.
I wished that 3rd parties would just say that after analyzing the market they see that porting to the Wii U wouldn't earn them money. I don't know if 3rd parties couldn't do something like pre-orders to see the demand? Those would have to be binding, though. Otherwise pre-orders would get cancelled and sales would turn out much lower.
I think the Wii U could be the get to console for budget conscious 3rd parties. There are reports on the other two being much more expensive to develop for, so we will see how this turns out.
Re: Talking Point: Claims of Wii U Third-Party Development Troubles Shouldn't Be Dismissed Lightly
@R_Champ
You are doing it right.
Re: Talking Point: Claims of Wii U Third-Party Development Troubles Shouldn't Be Dismissed Lightly
Would better hardware, being easy to port to, charging for online or proper accounts really result in more 3rd party support?
What would happen if the Wii U was to get every 3rd party multiplat? Quite a few people probably wouldn't even bother getting another console. And what would that mean for the other two?
The Wii U will likely be fine with 1st party and exclusives. But what about the other two?
Re: Monolith Soft Lists "Urgent" Job Postings, Including Requirements in Network Implementation
If you watch the first trailer again, you will see that it shows multiplayer similar to Monster Hunter. You see players about to fight against some dinosaur-like being and you can even see them chatting.
Re: Monolith Soft Lists "Urgent" Job Postings, Including Requirements in Network Implementation
@Senario
It was even more so shown in its reveal trailer.
Re: Super Mario 3D World Picks Up Best Nintendo Game VGX Award
Could people stop about being "true" fans and speaking the "truth"? Because it's getting ridiculous.
Re: Epic Vice President Mark Rein Remains Unconvinced By Second Screen Gaming
You can look at the GamePad in a different way, too.
Do you remember the girl who was able to play a game basically for the first time thanks to the GamePad, a WiiMote and Nabbit?
The GamePad has the possibility to let people play games who weren't able to do so before. And even if it would only be that one girl, that's one more person who got happiness out of playing.
Re: Luigi Actor Danny Wells Takes The Great Warp Pipe To The Sky, Aged 72
@Einherjar
This was really well put.
"To the bonus stage above the smiling clouds."
Did also watch the show as a child.
Rest in Peace.
Re: Former Sony Developer Feels The Wii U "Won't See Another Christmas"
@gameboy1975 @SirGreatNose
I agree with both of you.
The kinda funny thing is though that the people who constantly critisize something and call everyone who likes it blind or fanboys or even blind fanboys, while they themselves are the "true fans", often don't realize that they are just the other extreme of a fanboy.
Re: New Kirby: Triple Deluxe Screens Emerge in Magazine Scans
The bunch of Kirbys is actually a keyholder. Over 250 keyholders are hidden throughout the levels that can be collected.
Various mini-games are also included.
Re: Super Mario 3D World Underwhelms on Japanese Chart Début
I saw an article about the first week sales of Galaxy that someone posted and it read basically exactly like this one. I don't know from which site it was though.
It is definately too early to draw any conclusions.
Re: Super Mario 3D World Underwhelms on Japanese Chart Début
@GalacticMario28 Well, next week the Family Set with Wii Fit U will be available in stores. It can only be ordered online until then, so it might move some more consoles.
Re: Sometimes Finding a Wii U to Buy Ain't Easy
Well, Poles seem to be more about PC gaming. And if it's consoles it's either Playstation or Xbox. There are even promotions like buying a mobile phone and getting one of those for 1 zloty or something.
Re: Animal Crossing Plaza and Miiverse Community Open on Wii U
Edit to last post.
Aminka was only shown in the Japanese one. ^^;
I quite like the Animal Crossing Plaza. It is nice to spot animals who live in my town or once lived there. (Cube and Drift. ;_; ) I only own City Folk, though, so I don't have much to do there.
Re: Luigi Confirmed As Part Of The Smash Bros. Roster On 3DS And Wii U
@V8_Ninja
That's the thing. If they would change each and every moveset people would complain about the new movesets for characters they've mastered, because they would have to master them again. While some might like such a challange, some won't.
I don't get why people have to be so sarcastic about this addition. We will get many more confirmations of characters who were a given. They didn't even prepare a movie for Luigi and just showed some screenshots. It wasn't like 'Look, at this great additon that no one thought would happen, but we added it to everyone's surprise. Now, get excited!!!!!1111!!!!!1'.
Re: Animal Crossing Plaza and Miiverse Community Open on Wii U
They showed Audrey Drake during the presentation. lol Well not her, but her Animal Crossing character. I don't think there is another Aminka, so it must have been her.
Re: Luigi Confirmed As Part Of The Smash Bros. Roster On 3DS And Wii U
@sinalefa
I thought the same.
@bahooney
Well, when many of us were kids there wasn't an internet to bemoan every minor thing on.
Re: New Nintendo Direct Coming August 7th, Focus Is "Previously Announced" Wii U And 3DS Software
It actually will be about titles that will be released this year. Which doesn't mean it won't have surprises, but you shouldn't count on it.
Re: Soapbox: Why We Should Expect More From The Legend Of Zelda: Wind Waker HD
@CasuallyDressed #214
You really didn't do that, did you? Sorry, but you can't take ports and compare them to a remake.
Also, it isn't even out yet, so we can't say exactly how much was changed or added. When you do actually play it you might find that it's the best remake ever made.
Re: Platinum's Hideki Kamiya Claims He Doesn't Own A Wii U
@Araknie
So he actually doesn't own any? He plays them at work, so he probably doesn't need to have them at home, too.
@Fazermint
Now I actually want some, too. ^^; But paprika it would be.
Re: Wii U Summer System Update Pushed Back To The Fall
@TreesenHauser
I agree. It's better to delay it than rush it and then have to update the update, because it doesn't work properly.
Re: Platinum's Hideki Kamiya Claims He Doesn't Own A Wii U
@McHaggis
I thought the same thing. Perhaps he doesn't even own any consoles?
@Fazermint @Goginho
LOL
That might actually be more interesting than this "news". ; P
Re: Soapbox: Why We Should Expect More From The Legend Of Zelda: Wind Waker HD
@element187
This is what I was getting at. I don't get why the WW remake is called lazy, but ICO HD is fine.
Re: Soapbox: Why We Should Expect More From The Legend Of Zelda: Wind Waker HD
Isn't this a remake, as in they actually remake it? Make it one more time? And it is called lazy, because of that? But merely remastering it would be fine?
That is just like people complaining about rehashing, but when it was stated that there are not many new things that could be added to F-Zero, people said they would be fine with new tracks and the addition of online multiplayer, though this would be what rehashing actually is, add little to no new content.
This is really getting ridiculous.
I never played the original, but after Phantom Hourglass I wanted to, so the remake is really great for me.