@Link79 And if people weren't so full of nostalgia, no-one would care about the megadrive ones either. If they were first released now (with appropriate sound/graphic updates, obviously) no-one would care.
@MasterGraveheart So what if we kept our DS games? I didn't spend £180 on a new console to play the old games I've been playing for the last 6 years on my DS. The 3DS literally has no games that I would recommend to anyone. And 7 weeks after its launch, that is inexcusable.
@15. How about not the worst preorder bonuses so far for OoT 3DS? That would have been a good start. As someone already said, spirit tracks came in a huge custom made box, complete with two figures (One of Link, one of Phantom Zelda). OoT gets a slip case that I guarantee 99.9% of people will immediately throw away, and a poster, complete with tons of Creases from where they put it in the box! Hoorah!
In other words, absolute crap. We all had our hopes set way too high after having greeces be the first ones announced. We get a sleeve that is completely worthless, and is probably just the american boxart, and a poster that will probably be reused concept art we've already seen hundreds of times. Brilliant
@KidA Twilight princess is only rated worse if you are talking about the wii version vs wind waker. The gamecube version is actually rated the same (and with a much higher user score, but we all know user scores are generally worthless...) http://www.metacritic.com/game/gamecube/the-legend-of-zelda-twilight-princess The Wii controls definitely didn't improve TP in the slightest.
@People saying twilight princess is too easy compared to other 3D zeldas.
Have you ever actually played the other 3D zeldas? They're all ridiculously easy. Especially the boss fights.
The only seriously memorable boss fights, in my opinion, are Twilight princess, vs the Stallord and Majoras Mask, vs Goht. The rest are *hit with item you got in this dungeon to show weak point, stab for massive damage". For instance... Ganondorf in OoT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxJf8IcGrsc&feature=related
@102 Funny, because I think the same think about link to the past. Strange how not being affected by nostlgia does that. I've finished LTTP on the wiis VC and the GBA version, but its never really struck me as one of the better zelda games. I'd actually go as far to say I think its the 2nd worst (the original being the worst) 2d top-down zelda. Personally, I think Links awakening is the best 2d zelda, probably because its the first one I ever played. I'd much rather play twilight princess or wind waker over LTTP.
Unless I'm mistaken, remember that north american prices DO NOT INCLUDE TAX on the number you see at shelves. UK prices DO INCLUDE THE TAX on the numbers you see. Without our 20% VAT, it'd be ~$240. So ignoring our horrific tax, this is lower than Americas prices. Starting to wish that I had waited to buy mine, althgouh technically I would only have saved £2 using a game bundle at the moment.
@10. Skyward sword, Ocarina of time 3DS, Links awakening DX on the 3DS virtual console (Note: this will NOT have 3d or any 3ds features)
Personally, I'd rather, you know, get an original zelda for the 3DS rather than remake after remake. We really don't need the super mario advance travesty again.
Some of the things they have to say about master quest are odd. Unless they've made a lot of changes to the GC master quest ( which would be odd to still call it master quest then...) The monsters certainly weren't any more difficult to beat (though stronger ones did appear slightly earlier, attack patterns and methods to kill them were all the same). Mirroring the game doesn't make it harder when the dungeons are mostly linear anyway, it just makes them annoying. That was my experience from playing twilight princess on one console then the other anyway.
If this is the "new content", a mirrored master quest, and rehashing the bosses, label me very very unimpressed.
Yawn. Nothing there other than maybe OoT, and I've played both the original and Master quest numerous times. Nothing in a rush for at least 3 months I guess...
Ugh, horrible camerawork on that video ruins any sense of "ok thats kinda cool". Blasted down even further by Super Paper mario doing an infinitely better job of a 3d take on 2d mario.
Well, they did mention on one of the pairs twitter, that they had been playing through Wind Fortress, and that it was the first CS level pixel had made since finishing Hell...
I'm a little disappointed about how random the improvements related to graphical changes seem. For one thing, the the wooden lonlon ranch fencing still looks paper thin, and frankly, crap, but the redesigned Hyrule Market looks brillant compared to the original
Needs tails back for co-op. And more zones. 12 (13) w/o counting the bosses was ok, but there should really be at least 20. I can't help but think the wii version size limitations were holding the rest back :/
Well, I wasn't going to get it, but since I was really happy with my exam results, I went out and got it since its pretty much the only release around this time of year I was interested in, and felt the need. I was going to wait for it drop in price though before, and so are a few people I know.
The complete lack of any preorder bonuses in the uk probably didn't do it any good either
Trust me guys, the nintendo points aren't nearly as good as it sounds. You need to buy 16 wii games to get 1000 points worth. Its even more if you only buy DS games (20 for 1000points) , because they only give 200 stars per game (At most!)
Well, I'm not interested if it doesn't have a decently long story mode. I liked XD enough that I would buy sequal, and the two gamecube games were a good break from "get badges, beat Team xxx after 6-8 badges, go to elite 4." Even though they were basically the same plot, it was well disguised in comparison to every handheld game, where they don't even try anymore ...
If it was just a skinned official GC controller, I'd probably use it... if you could remove that horrible buckle monster eating the right arm of the control pad.
As it is, looks like crap, and if the final thing was going to come out like that, I guess its not hard to see why it didn't get past being a prototype
@jesussaves Announcing that you're voting for black ops is a good way to get people to hate you. Hope SMG2 wins, but I guess Mass Effect 2 and RDR got the hype they did for some reason, so I'd probably be ok with them winning, even though I've not played them.
Kirbys epic yarn, pokemon black/white, okamiden , and plants vs zombies (though I'll probably wait for a price drop on that one). Yup, more here that I'm interested in than for the 3DS so far
And not a single title worth paying full RRP for. Heck, I wouldn't pay more than half what retailers want for any of those, even if I already had the console. Slim pickings to say the least...
@moosa It doesn't help that every super monkey ball game since 2 (which was great!) has been mediocre at best, and most of them can't even manage that
@NFreak007 Yeah but they had Super Smash Bros Melee within a month of launch in most (all?) regions for the Gamecube. While it wasn't a launch title, it was doing a lot better than the 3DS opening months line up looks
For comparision, sonic unleashed (wii version) sold about 800k copies in the same amount of time, according to vgchartz, and 1.81m over all the consoles it was released on. Thats right, sonic colours is outselling a previous version that was on four different consoles I guess being a quality game does help after all!
Why is sega the only developer seemingly willing to argue with nintendo on how it runs its online services (or at least, the only one successfully doing it...)
First they actually get nintendo to have a sale on some sega games, and now they're adding online? Wow
I don't know why they're bothering with the cartoon series in the UK. It'll crash and burn, being nothing but a huge waste of money. It really says enough when Naruto, Bleach and One Piece can't even get a following about how much our little island actually cares about watching anime on the Television
@warioswoods Because despite what the internet dwelling minions would have you think, the majority will not play a game that includes japanese with subs over english VA, no matter how terrible it is
No reggie, it isn't. No amount of marketing will ever be able to get past the fact you're trying to launch a console with no mario/zelda(/metroid/pokemon, maybe)
No sale from me then. Theres a reason why people rushed to buy the Gamecube version of soul calibur 2 over the other versions. And frankly, if link wasn't in that, I would never have bought it.
I wonder if these are going to be "daily puzzles" like any DS DLC, where they're already on the card and you're just unlocking them, or if it'll legitimately be new content. Hmm
No way am I paying £300. Haven't ever paid over £100 for a handheld, and frankly £150 is the most I'm comfortable with. £180 maybe. more? Not happening.
And bass, are your eyes working? Because the 3DS isn't pushing anything near ps3/360 level. Try just above PSP, gamecube at the very most
In that case, nintendos in trouble. Motion controls made twilight princess wii a much less fun experience than the gamecube version. And now they're being forced? Ugh. Then they drop the art style for something that looks, again, no better than a gamecube game. We know nintendo can do far better, as marios recent 3d outings show, but zelda doesn't seem to be worth the effort.
So yeah, I'm expected SS to fall on the "play once. forget about forever" heap alongside the DS games and windwaker.
I'll get it once its around half rrp, not really something I could see myself spending a long time on, but it was decent on RE5 and I can imagine getting more use out of it on a handheld
The games are ok, but the presentation is very lackluster. They needed to take some hints from sonic mega collection (plus) and get 12 (18 on plus) games on the disc, as well as tons of promo art (and a couple of other things that elude me).
@Senna Kurosaki Japanese ignoring europe? But cavestory wiiware isn't out in japan yet.And its been developed by a company based in california. Not really anyone in japans fault it took this long...
@Mickeymac. Because they want to make people buy the game maybe? This trailer does absolutely nothing other than make golden sun scream *LOOKIE MA, I'M A GENERIC RPG)
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Re: Sonic Generations 3DS Rumours Gain Speed
@Link79
And if people weren't so full of nostalgia, no-one would care about the megadrive ones either. If they were first released now (with appropriate sound/graphic updates, obviously) no-one would care.
Re: Sonic Generations 3DS Rumours Gain Speed
@MasterGraveheart
So what if we kept our DS games? I didn't spend £180 on a new console to play the old games I've been playing for the last 6 years on my DS. The 3DS literally has no games that I would recommend to anyone. And 7 weeks after its launch, that is inexcusable.
Re: UK Pre-Orders Bag a Gold Sleeve and Poster for Ocarina 3D
@15.
How about not the worst preorder bonuses so far for OoT 3DS? That would have been a good start.
As someone already said, spirit tracks came in a huge custom made box, complete with two figures (One of Link, one of Phantom Zelda). OoT gets a slip case that I guarantee 99.9% of people will immediately throw away, and a poster, complete with tons of Creases from where they put it in the box! Hoorah!
Re: UK Pre-Orders Bag a Gold Sleeve and Poster for Ocarina 3D
In other words, absolute crap. We all had our hopes set way too high after having greeces be the first ones announced. We get a sleeve that is completely worthless, and is probably just the american boxart, and a poster that will probably be reused concept art we've already seen hundreds of times. Brilliant
Re: Features: Re-Examining Zelda: Twilight Princess
@KidA
Twilight princess is only rated worse if you are talking about the wii version vs wind waker.
The gamecube version is actually rated the same (and with a much higher user score, but we all know user scores are generally worthless...)
http://www.metacritic.com/game/gamecube/the-legend-of-zelda-twilight-princess
The Wii controls definitely didn't improve TP in the slightest.
@People saying twilight princess is too easy compared to other 3D zeldas.
Have you ever actually played the other 3D zeldas? They're all ridiculously easy. Especially the boss fights.
The only seriously memorable boss fights, in my opinion, are Twilight princess, vs the Stallord and Majoras Mask, vs Goht. The rest are *hit with item you got in this dungeon to show weak point, stab for massive damage".
For instance... Ganondorf in OoT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxJf8IcGrsc&feature=related
Re: Rumour: Famitsu Details 3DS eShop Launch Line-Up
@1
Why would internet be in the shop? It wouldn't, theres a button on the main 3DS page already for internet, it just hasn't been activated.
Re: Nintendo Confirms E3 2011 Conference Details
7th june? damit, really? I'm in an exam until 5:30Pm (UK time)
Re: Amazon Listing Outs June 17 EU Release for 3DS Naruto Shippuden
...
You know what else outed the release date for this?
The europe line up from nintendo, that you guys already reported on over 2 weeks ago
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2011/04/europe_your_q2_release_line_up_is_waiting
Re: Another Zelda Remake for 3DS?
@102
Funny, because I think the same think about link to the past. Strange how not being affected by nostlgia does that. I've finished LTTP on the wiis VC and the GBA version, but its never really struck me as one of the better zelda games. I'd actually go as far to say I think its the 2nd worst (the original being the worst) 2d top-down zelda.
Personally, I think Links awakening is the best 2d zelda, probably because its the first one I ever played. I'd much rather play twilight princess or wind waker over LTTP.
Re: 3DS Down to £179.99 in UK as Price War Rages On
Unless I'm mistaken, remember that north american prices DO NOT INCLUDE TAX on the number you see at shelves.
UK prices DO INCLUDE THE TAX on the numbers you see. Without our 20% VAT, it'd be ~$240. So ignoring our horrific tax, this is lower than Americas prices. Starting to wish that I had waited to buy mine, althgouh technically I would only have saved £2 using a game bundle at the moment.
Re: Another Zelda Remake for 3DS?
@10.
Skyward sword, Ocarina of time 3DS, Links awakening DX on the 3DS virtual console (Note: this will NOT have 3d or any 3ds features)
Personally, I'd rather, you know, get an original zelda for the 3DS rather than remake after remake. We really don't need the super mario advance travesty again.
Re: Ocarina of Time 3D Gets Boss Rush Mode and Helpful Videos
Some of the things they have to say about master quest are odd. Unless they've made a lot of changes to the GC master quest ( which would be odd to still call it master quest then...)
The monsters certainly weren't any more difficult to beat (though stronger ones did appear slightly earlier, attack patterns and methods to kill them were all the same). Mirroring the game doesn't make it harder when the dungeons are mostly linear anyway, it just makes them annoying. That was my experience from playing twilight princess on one console then the other anyway.
If this is the "new content", a mirrored master quest, and rehashing the bosses, label me very very unimpressed.
Re: Zelda 3D Developed by Grezzo Co, Not Nintendo EAD
Well if no-one had realised it wasn't being developed by nintendo by this point, clearly there is no problem.
Re: Europe, Your Q2 Release Line-Up is Waiting
Yawn. Nothing there other than maybe OoT, and I've played both the original and Master quest numerous times. Nothing in a rush for at least 3 months I guess...
I hope the DSiware store opens soon =,=
Re: Fan-Made Super Mario Bros. 3 in 3D is A Little Bit Awesome
Ugh, horrible camerawork on that video ruins any sense of "ok thats kinda cool".
Blasted down even further by Super Paper mario doing an infinitely better job of a 3d take on 2d mario.
Re: After Nine Years, Retro Studios Thinks Like Nintendo
@thesignpainter
IP means intellectual property.
For instance, "Super Mario" is a intellectual property of nintendo, as are zelda and metroid,
Re: After Nine Years, Retro Studios Thinks Like Nintendo
@3.
I don't care what they make,I know it'll be gold and worth buying day 1. They just need to make more of it!
Re: 3DSWare File Size May Be Bigger Than WiiWare
40mb is a terrible (and stupidly arbitrary) limit. It should be 256 at a very minimum.
Re: Dig Into Cave Story 3DS on 28th June
Well, they did mention on one of the pairs twitter, that they had been playing through Wind Fortress, and that it was the first CS level pixel had made since finishing Hell...
Comeonnnnnnnnn Europe date
Re: Win 1 of 3 Nintendo 3DS' & 4 Games with Ubisoft (UK)
Nice, already got one and rayman, but If on the minute chance I win, I can give it to my sister.
Good luck everyone!
Re: Iwata: Ocarina of Time 3D Will Release in June 2011
I'm a little disappointed about how random the improvements related to graphical changes seem. For one thing, the the wooden lonlon ranch fencing still looks paper thin, and frankly, crap, but the redesigned Hyrule Market looks brillant compared to the original
Re: Watch Satoru Iwata's Keynote at GDC Live
Gamegear and turbografix 16 for Virtual console confirmed
Re: Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode 2 Likely to have a Bigger Budget
Needs tails back for co-op. And more zones. 12 (13) w/o counting the bosses was ok, but there should really be at least 20. I can't help but think the wii version size limitations were holding the rest back :/
Re: Kirby Casts On a Disappointing UK Chart Debut
Well, I wasn't going to get it, but since I was really happy with my exam results, I went out and got it since its pretty much the only release around this time of year I was interested in, and felt the need. I was going to wait for it drop in price though before, and so are a few people I know.
The complete lack of any preorder bonuses in the uk probably didn't do it any good either
Re: Sink Your Fangs into the Okamiden Demo Available Now
Yesterday in europe? Pft, its been out since Tuesday morning uk time. I was checking repeatedly waiting for it! .
Its a shame the demo is so short though. No demo that length is going to make people go out and buy it.
Re: Nintendo Europe Stars Catalogue Gets Fans, Bags, Points
Trust me guys, the nintendo points aren't nearly as good as it sounds. You need to buy 16 wii games to get 1000 points worth. Its even more if you only buy DS games (20 for 1000points) , because they only give 200 stars per game (At most!)
Re: Nintendo Europe Stars Catalogue Gets Fans, Bags, Points
7000? For a bag. Well, if you've bought enough games to get 7000 stars...(28 minimum...) I guess you could waste them all on that.
Re: Wii Unlikely to Catch a Traditional Pokemon RPG Title
Well, I'm not interested if it doesn't have a decently long story mode. I liked XD enough that I would buy sequal, and the two gamecube games were a good break from "get badges, beat Team xxx after 6-8 badges, go to elite 4."
Even though they were basically the same plot, it was well disguised in comparison to every handheld game, where they don't even try anymore ...
Re: This Zelda GameCube Controller is Awesome in an Ugly Way
If it was just a skinned official GC controller, I'd probably use it... if you could remove that horrible buckle monster eating the right arm of the control pad.
As it is, looks like crap, and if the final thing was going to come out like that, I guess its not hard to see why it didn't get past being a prototype
Re: Super Mario Galaxy 2 up for BAFTA Game of the Year
@jesussaves
Announcing that you're voting for black ops is a good way to get people to hate you.
Hope SMG2 wins, but I guess Mass Effect 2 and RDR got the hype they did for some reason, so I'd probably be ok with them winning, even though I've not played them.
Re: Nintendo Europe Announces Q1 Release Dates for Wii and DS
Kirbys epic yarn, pokemon black/white, okamiden , and plants vs zombies (though I'll probably wait for a price drop on that one). Yup, more here that I'm interested in than for the 3DS so far
Re: Nintendo Announces Official 3DS UK Launch Line-Up
And not a single title worth paying full RRP for. Heck, I wouldn't pay more than half what retailers want for any of those, even if I already had the console. Slim pickings to say the least...
@moosa
It doesn't help that every super monkey ball game since 2 (which was great!) has been mediocre at best, and most of them can't even manage that
Re: Europe's 3DS Launch Line-Up According to Gamestation
@NFreak007 Yeah but they had Super Smash Bros Melee within a month of launch in most (all?) regions for the Gamecube. While it wasn't a launch title, it was doing a lot better than the 3DS opening months line up looks
Re: Sonic Colours Sells 1.85 Million Copies Worldwide
For comparision, sonic unleashed (wii version) sold about 800k copies in the same amount of time, according to vgchartz, and 1.81m over all the consoles it was released on.
Thats right, sonic colours is outselling a previous version that was on four different consoles
I guess being a quality game does help after all!
Re: Japan Getting Online Multiplayer for a Virtual Console Title
Why is sega the only developer seemingly willing to argue with nintendo on how it runs its online services (or at least, the only one successfully doing it...)
First they actually get nintendo to have a sale on some sega games, and now they're adding online? Wow
Re: Nintendo: Inazuma Eleven Not Officially Launched in the UK
I don't know why they're bothering with the cartoon series in the UK. It'll crash and burn, being nothing but a huge waste of money.
It really says enough when Naruto, Bleach and One Piece can't even get a following about how much our little island actually cares about watching anime on the Television
Re: Last Story Tops the Japanese Sales Charts
@warioswoods
Because despite what the internet dwelling minions would have you think, the majority will not play a game that includes japanese with subs over english VA, no matter how terrible it is
Re: Will We See a Zelda 25th Anniversary Collection this Year?
Even if nintendo do a zelda 25th package, it'll just be the collectors edition re-released on wii. Don't expect any effort put in it
Re: Reggie: Steel Diver Makes Up for Lack of Zelda at Launch
No reggie, it isn't. No amount of marketing will ever be able to get past the fact you're trying to launch a console with no mario/zelda(/metroid/pokemon, maybe)
Re: No, You Cannot Fight as Samus in Dead or Alive: Dimensions
No sale from me then. Theres a reason why people rushed to buy the Gamecube version of soul calibur 2 over the other versions. And frankly, if link wasn't in that, I would never have bought it.
I guess I'm fickle, but its the truth
Re: Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle to get Daily New Puzzles
I wonder if these are going to be "daily puzzles" like any DS DLC, where they're already on the card and you're just unlocking them, or if it'll legitimately be new content. Hmm
Re: Watch the 3DS Europe Event Live Online
In the middle of an exam. Dammit
Re: Roll Up, Roll Up For the UK 3DS Price Rumour Round-Up
No way am I paying £300. Haven't ever paid over £100 for a handheld, and frankly £150 is the most I'm comfortable with. £180 maybe. more? Not happening.
And bass, are your eyes working? Because the 3DS isn't pushing anything near ps3/360 level. Try just above PSP, gamecube at the very most
Re: Talking Point: Zelda: Skyward Sword is 2011's Biggest Game
In that case, nintendos in trouble. Motion controls made twilight princess wii a much less fun experience than the gamecube version. And now they're being forced? Ugh. Then they drop the art style for something that looks, again, no better than a gamecube game. We know nintendo can do far better, as marios recent 3d outings show, but zelda doesn't seem to be worth the effort.
So yeah, I'm expected SS to fall on the "play once. forget about forever" heap alongside the DS games and windwaker.
Re: Help WiiWare Demos Get a Time Extension and Win BIT.TRIP FATE
I doubt its cross continent since there isn't yet an AYIM demo for europe
Re: Claire Redfield Joins the Resident Evil Mercenaries Gang
I'll get it once its around half rrp, not really something I could see myself spending a long time on, but it was decent on RE5 and I can imagine getting more use out of it on a handheld
Re: No Love for Super Mario All-Stars in UK Top 20 Chart
The games are ok, but the presentation is very lackluster. They needed to take some hints from sonic mega collection (plus) and get 12 (18 on plus) games on the disc, as well as tons of promo art (and a couple of other things that elude me).
Re: Thought BIT.TRIP RUNNER Was Over the Finish Line? Think Again
If its a port, count me out. New levels would be awesome though...
Re: Cave Story Finally Burrows to Europe Next Friday
@Senna Kurosaki
Japanese ignoring europe? But cavestory wiiware isn't out in japan yet.And its been developed by a company based in california. Not really anyone in japans fault it took this long...
Re: This Golden Sun: Dark Dawn Trailer is Bursting with Psynergy
@Mickeymac.
Because they want to make people buy the game maybe? This trailer does absolutely nothing other than make golden sun scream *LOOKIE MA, I'M A GENERIC RPG)