Oooooh boy... here we go fam 👀

...I just want to do cosmetic mods again, come on Nintendo. TwT

EXCITING!!! I managed to get the demo for smilebasic from the jp eShop (not sure if it's down there yet) so I may play around with it a little before updating my system firmware for ocarina of time.

Hoping we eventually get a full jailbreak because I really love the dual potential of my modded OLED. I can still play my switch games online and get to tinker with cool emulators and homebrew on the same system. Super fun!

AI really should be obliterated out of existence. Absolute demon tech. Don't @ me.

Bound to happen eventually. I am glad in future there should be a decent homebrew scene and mod-ability of the console, extending it's usability.

I did not realize that Sonic Racing Crossworlds was contagious.

Anyway, while I support homebrew, anything vibecoded is just gross.

Maybe this will incentivize Nintendo to reign the slop hitting the eshop

@Slowdive hi I'm @ing you one because I think it's funny to do so even when you say not to but also to say that while I think there are huge negatives to ai, it has made so many hobbyist projects in homebrew and emulation possible that people with ideas do not have the skills or time to produce otherwise. Of course, there's huge value to learning these skills yourself, but watching how rapidly some of these projects come out from "your average Joe" with a Claude subscription is truly mind blowing.

Thankfully it's limited right now, It's nice knowing Switch 2 games can't be pirated just yet so I was worried for a sec.
Every Switch 1 release would have an entitled group on Twitter bragging that they got the game for free while hiding behind the legality of emulation

AI is truely very powerful and here to stay. It is used by both attackers and defenders of software systems. The arms race goes on, now with much heavier arms.

My conclusion from this incident is that from now on, without permanent software updates, your devices are vulnerable to attacks of not-so-cooperative hackers. You don’t update because you wish for mods, but the attackers use your Switch to attack others.

AI is only going to help people hack these systems faster.

They might be looking forward to a lot of things. Including a big fat lawsuit from Nintendo.

@solarwolf07 Friend, you are unfortunately in the minority. For every tinkerer who just wants to see how things tick there are a thousand cheapskates who don't want to reimburse the creators of videogames.

The thread of the person essentially just asking a chatbot to hack the Switch 2 for them is f**king pathetic. Script kiddies have become slop kiddies.

Goes to show the PS5 jailbreaking wasn't about getting one up on Sony. Its just pirates being too cheap to actually pay for games.

There is so much junk on the eshop and I really think Nintendo should have better policies for games on there, for example limit the games to only registered publishers and registered indie devs,

@XenobladeKisekiFan You may have a point, but SmileBASIC has been officially on Nintendo consoles for at least 15 years. It has its roots in DSiWare (Petit Computer) and officially partnered with Bandai Namco for DLC on the 3DS version, it's not just a rogue dev making an easily exploitable junk game (the Switch one has been out for most of the Switch's life).

@Mz3player so its the ai's fault for allowing this to happen

Wait, SmileBASIC? Wasn't there a similar debacle around its Switch version?😅

this reminds me of those adobe free rewrite programs.

cool at first, but then made significantly less cool by the substantial vibecoding, and then i stop caring.

anyways, who's gonna be the first person here to say something really annoying like "finally, i've been waiting to be able to emulate the switch 2. i'm never buying that horrible thing ever" like they're taking a huge moral highground by not buying a nintendo system but then going over to gamestop to buy a 1500 dollar ps5 pro and writing bigoted slurs into discord servers because he's a true man unlike those posers and

uh they suck or whatever

We are simple people, freshly hacked system and the first priority is Peter Griffin

Oof, wouldn't be the first time. Hackers and modders are relentless.

Why are you publicising this NL?

That'll teach 'em!

@WheresWaveRace Are you shocked, they always do. Acting like a proud parent.

. I am so pleased for all the people that can now mod games just how they want. While everyone else steals games and ruins experiences for others.

Most just use this stuff to pirate.

Feels like a moot point as I prize my Switch and Switch 2 for online play. A firmware mod will result in a ban.

As much as I want themes/music on the menu, and actual rips of music from games instead of waiting for Nintendo Music, I do not want a Switch 2 hack. The community will be 5% people who want to make their console cosmetic, and 95% people who just want to pirate games. Switch 1 emulation has really given people a crazy amount of assumption of entitlement.

AI has ruined the fun in anything coding/reverse engineering related.

@dew12333 Lol. How would others "stealing" games even affect you?

@solarwolf07 you mean people without skills or time now can rob the creative creations of others for their own good?

Yeah no. Ai sucks in a lot of ways and this is one of them.

Given the death of physical media on PS5 and the rise of GKC on Switch 2, I'm happy this happened.

Well, it was only a matter of time. But it seems less and less time is needed before it happens with AI helping these pirates out. I am not sure what to think of all this, to be honest.

Yeah ... this has become hilarious. People thinking they're so smart because they asked AI to do something and ... it worked!

You know, just like people are buying bonuses in Candy Crush to get ahead of their friends and then pretend they never spent a dime in the game ... XD

@NINtendo242 If I need to explain, it would infer to me that you would need too much explanation. Educate yourself.

I think it's great. The more open these systems are the better.

Re AI: Shoehorning trite rhetoric (both anti and pro) into every single comment section is tiring.

Re Piracy: the best big study (commissioned by the EU) found no direct negative impact on videogame sales since at least the mid 2000s.

Re "rewarding creators": unless it's independent developers, you're rewarding the faceless investors behind the publishers, including Nintendo. The devs have a fixed salary.

This sucks. I'm always craving more creative software on my Switch, stuff that would let me import and export files, and this kind of thing is why it doesn't happen and is even less likely to happen in the future ☹

I've had SmileBasic on my wishlist for like forever and can't remember off the top of my head whether I've bought it already or not.

Switch2 is already jailbroken too, just like the brand new PlayStation patch. Normies are worried abiut OMG I can generate Mario and Kratos in a picture?! IP rights raaaa!

The real problem is you cannot patch things now when you can run the patch file through AI and it tells you what needs to be done to bypass it, or does it itself.

We had that story 1nce before with Switch1

@Slowdive , I Don’t like AI either and I want it gone too

I can already taste those Splatoon raiders model rips

Edit with my full thoughts: Big stink this was AI assisted after what had happened with that PHP exploit. Another big stink is that we'll have leaks to avoid now for upcoming releases. I am more than overjoyed the switch 2 has been jail broken partially. However I think I'm a little indifferent to the new rising NS2 emulation scene. (this is the part where I tread lightly with what I say because the nintendo diehards will tear me a new one)

but hey it was bound to happen sooner or later, its like this with every console released

Excellent news. Been waiting for this. Just in time for hackers to get Zelda Remake working on the (hopefully) upcoming Switch 2 Emulators. Karma for not honoring my Switch 2 warranty after 3 months when the bottom port stopped charging. Sat on dock since purchase. Zero damage, dings, spills. After sending it in. they refused to repair it and I got back a bogus laundry list of faults supposedly caused my me. £300 bill which i refused. Needless to say my response when receiving this news from their customer service rep/scammer was appropriately colorful. Scummy company. Next time. .. do the honorable thing.

God, we have this tech built by criminals for criminals that is likely to collapse civilization; what's the point of anything anymore?

It's only software that is hacked they haven't gotten past hardware blocks. mod Switch 2 games They haven't done much. And HomeBrew which won't last long. If Homebrew users update Switch 2 they will be banned. Probably used the MigSwitch device to copy the software to hack. But the person probably will not admit they used this to get the software first. Ninja will shortly press release.

@nessisonett Thanks for the “slop kiddies”, I giggled. 😁

Though it is also a bit scary, there’s probably more of them than us (us being whatever you want it to be). And the AI out there now all seems to be more evil than good (can’t imagine why 🙄).

So basically if the script slop kiddies don’t get us the AI will all by itself. Might be time to go live off the grid in my cabin in Saskatchewan. (It’s what I wrote in my middle school yearbook in 1980. 😂)

I love SmileBasic and the great free games it's community has provided. I loved coding up a text adventure for it during 2020. I really hope that this won't be the end of the program as I've been wondering if Switch2 would see a smilebasic5

@Appleman3546

SmileBasic is so far from Slop though. This is truly sad and I hope this year's game creator competition on the platform still happens. It's an amazing tool for learning to program in an old style.

Thankfully nintendo is on top of this issue not like sony and microsoft who lets their systems get hack on a daily basis.

This is amazing news. I know the Nintendo holy defenders will instantly jump and say you just want to pirate, but for me, my modded OLED is so much more than that.

It’s a place where I can stream my PC games, a place where I can back up my +100 cartridges and basically never lose them, where I can go beyond the capabilities of the Switch with overclocking and play docked mode in handheld, mods that truly change how a game plays and emulate a PSP game at 720p like it was made for the Switch.

Now imagine that on a much more powerful unit. PS2 emulation is on the table.

@Max_the_German
you know i could imagine soon they will install AI system on future console to act directly like a denuvo deepened root into the system to counter not only normal piracy system but AI jailbreak and of course this will mean less power for games too

He jailbroke Switch but continues to not have a life or any intimate relationships

@aresius That‘s an interesting and terrifying idea. These little AI beasts will soon sit everywhere, even in my toilet seat, and take care that we behave like good citizens.

I'm about to ignore the AI complainers & those who use that brain dead buzzword "slop" term. It's inevitable & Nintendo really can't put a stop to it, maybe Ninty will place harsher restrictions on what's allowed on the e-Shop this time. Maybe the Switch 3 will use AI to block the pirate-y intended AI for the lazy slobs who just want to brag & brag they stole from Nintendo then cry hard after they bragged in the open which lead to catching Nintendo's unwanted attention.

While the cosmetics seem to be funny or harmless, people could do worse.

@HIGHscores85 Don't waste your breath, Nintendo fans with that mentality usually think anything not developed or published by Nintendo is eSlop.

@Slowdive - AI isn’t the problem, it’s the bad actors that use AI to cause harm.

at least we can have some fun stuff before our bank accounts are deleted and the robots come for us while the billionaires are in their underground fortresses

Its only a matter of time for the switch 2. My odin 2 already has switch 1 games.

I hope SmileBasic can get reinstated after an update. It's a fantastic little programming tool with lots of great user-made games, all free. Some of them are probably higher quality with more content than 80% of the eShop. Cool to see homebrew on Switch 2 but it's not worth killing SmileBasic.

@rjejr I mean it’s essentially killed the job market already, the old saying was that 1/4 of my degree was obsolete by the time I graduated but that seems to be closer to 75% not even 5 years since graduation. Should have just done something more fun!

@nessisonett My kids are 24 - 4yr BS degree in only 3yrs - and 21 - dropped out of that same school w/ 103 credits and a 3.00GPA b/c they had no major - and I don’t know how either of them are ever supposed to get their careers started to pay off their student loans b/c there just aren’t any entry level jobs anymore, they all went to AI, and they can’t get the experience for a better job. 🤑

It’s so freaking depressing, all of this. It’s a big shift and seemingly nobody was prepared for it. I’m sure it will all work itself out in 20 or 30 years but 15-25 yo seem royally screwed. 😩

https://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cpseea10.htm

@rjejr Almost every single one of my graduate friends have been made redundant in the last year or so. And that’s across different fields. At least over here I don’t need to repay my student loan unless I earn a certain amount, I logged in last week to have a nosy and even just the interest is horrifying 💀

I know this is going to anger some people, but this is a good thing. I think you should be allowed to do what you want with the system you buy. My Wii and Xbox 360 are both modded.

Not a fan of the exploit being entirely vibecoded though. Hopefully something better is created by people who actually care instead of clout chasers whose only motive is "heh. THAT'LL show Nintendo!". I understand most people will use this for piracy, but I'm not interested in that. I'm more for getting high quality music/model rips and perhaps even unused content. That stuff really interests me. Also, excited to see custom tracks for Mario Kart World being made. I'd love to see Koopa Cape in the game!

I won't be running this thing on my Switch 2 though, it's my main system and I don't want to risk a ban.

Let the cat and mouse games begin. Nintendo will never be able to fully stop this

The only thing I don't understand is how model replacement was already figured out. I would assume that a new system would have new filetypes and ways to decompile and recompile said models. Unless Nintendo is using the same (or a very similar file type) on the Switch 1-era games.

You don't just drag-n-drop a .obj file and call it a day. Every game works differently, Nintendo games have their own file types, encryption, and so on.

@nessisonett Interest is evil, full stop. (I think that’s Shakespeare or the Bible, maybe both, so there’s likely something to it.)

My older kid had interest on their loans around 1-2%, I think in part due to COVID, the youngest 5.5-6.5%. And they started in the fall of the year the other graduated in the spring, so just months apart.

Why are we charging 18-21 yo 5-6%? What is all that interest doing that the 1-2% wasn’t? Private banks I get, capitalism, but the federal government is supposed to be helping people out, not making indentured servants out of them for 20 years.

It’s why I’m anti-college now despite both my wife and I having graduate MA degrees, the math just isn’t mathing. 🤑

Something has got to give, before we send a generation of young adults into privately run debtor’s prisons. Basically anyone formerly making video games for a living. 😩 (tried to bring it back on topic but wrong article, but I had like a 50-50 chance these days 😂)

@DennisReynolds Well certain unpopular actions by Sony seem to result in people putting in more effort who otherwise wouldn’t have been interested. Removing Linux access on the PS3 and the thing with physical media they probably thought were minor things but the end result was annoying the wrong people. (You might have thought the dev movie on retail Xboxes would be a massive hole but it hasn’t turned out to be).

This comes under the title ‘clever but misguided’

SmileBASIC devs must be cursing at pirates right now lmao.

SmileBasic hacks the 3DS.... 10 years later... SmileBasic wants to hack the Switch 2... wait a second, Nintendo may remember the last time...

I know what to do, call it SmileBasic 4! They'll never see it coming!

They never saw it coming...

@rjejr

Really sorry to hear that. I have some family members in a similar situation, went into computer science on the advice of others when it looked like you couldn't lose, graduated with a 3.9. Even had a ton of connections in the industry though me. 2 years later live with their parents and work manual labor.

My best friend worked for Google for 20+ years. He was asked to give a speech to a graduating class in traditional, non-AI focused programing and told them the best thing they could do is print their degree on a $20 bill, because then at least it would be worth $20.

@h3s Maybe people should have bought physical media then but instead the vast majority happily support digital gaming, netflix, spotify and such. Sony have the data and the data shows the vast majority of its 95M userbase prefer buying digital over discs. I bet most the people crying over discs have GTA VI pre-ordered.

Fun fact the Series S has greatly outsold the SX making the vast majority of the Xbox userbase digital only. As i said Sony and MS have the data.

Late to the party, but I kinda wanted to chime in and say that based on the comments, there is a HUGE misunderstanding about exactly how "big" or useful this exploit is. In an absolute best case scenarios, where this couldn't be patched out and there was unlimited time and resources ... this never leads to kernel access. And this is far from best case; it requires a tethered connection to work and is dependent on easily patchable software vulnerabilities.

It's not NOTHING. It's already been used to gain access to some privileged file systems and it might eventually allow for homebrew on very specific unpatched Switch 2s while (and ONLY WHILE) they are connected to PCs. If you're an enthusiast who is excited by that, power to you! I hope it happens. But for casuals, the best way to look at this news is this: Before it happened, no one had discovered any trace of a viable path to a "hacked" Switch 2. After this discovery ... no one has discovered any trace of a viable path to a "hacked" Switch 2. Nothing has changed on that front.

@HeadPirate Those are the best graduation pep talks, brutal reality. 😩

I was a computer science major in college in 1983. By 1985 my sister in 5th grade was being taught some of the basic computer stuff I was. And the people with jobs were coming back and telling us everything we were learning was already outdated. So I changed my major to sociology and spent 8 years in grad school b/c there are no jobs for that major either. 😂

This feels different though. I was still able to find job after job in the 90s making $40k. My wife has been working non-stop since ‘93 at 5 or 6 different jobs. But now, it seems rough. Sure, jobs are out there, Lyft, Grubhub, warehouse fulfillment, but careers seem nepotism only.

Good luck to your friend.

Chat, jailbreaking isn’t an issue piracy is an issue but a PC can do the same thing as a modded device in the ethics department . Ai sucks but jailbreaking isn’t bad.

@Snivee haha they got enough sales that they’ll probably make up for the sale loss during the patching of the issue

@Daric yes it’s literally every comment saying: See this is why ai is evil. Or Look ai is good. I definitely agree the console doesn’t need to be locked down having a jailbreak isn’t bad on its own like at all

And so it begins......