I just hope we get the FFCCMLAAK content. But if not, doesn't really matter, I'll just play someat else
Ben, if we don't get Pirates I'd be amazed, because it's out on the DS soon, so you'd think that they'd want to put the Wii Ware prequel out a few weeks before the DS one.
But Cally, the loss you'll be taking on selling the Wii game is probably more than a VC game costs.
£3.50 for a rental is the same as a NES game. I sold a game recently where I took more than a £7 hit. £7 is an N64 game.
You can't try before you buy with the VC, but there's more than enough info on A LOT of these games to research them fully.
Hell, goto youtube and search for DEMON212, 689 subscribers can't be wrong
Oh, and as for raining on my parade, why should I care if you lot can't see that you're the reason that you're getting such lackluster releases, because I'm still enjoying our good releases all the same
Oh, my apologies sire, please complain some more so that I can sleep well tonight.
Tell me how you stepped in a puddle recentally and ruined your favourite trainers.
Moan some more about that ***** at work who's taking all your sales.
Whinge some more about games and gaming in general. Complain about how gaming for 48 hours straight hurts your eyes. But wait, in order to do that you'd need some games to play, and no good games have ever been made.
Pfft, condesending, you think I've been condesending? I haven't even started to get to THAT point.
The only reason this has gone as far is 'cause my Mod powers aren't working again. Because I've been told before that full on whinge posts are perfectly fine to tag.
But that's just it. WE'RE not buying CRAP games because there's nothing out. WE'RE buying QUALITY games while we're waiting for even more quality games. The problem is, Crack Down, Metal Slug, Fatal Fury, Alex Kidd etc... aren't Nintendo. That doesn't mean that they're crap though. And I really wish people would just try them out rather than being the stereotypical Fanboys that they're acting like!
And I think it's quite evident that we don't all want the same thing. While we both want quality games, some of us have our minds more open than others as to what quality games are.
SMRPG post has over 200 replies. So it's getting there. But how many are worth reading? How many are repeated? (As in, how many are whiny whingy whingers complaining?)
Most of Europe won't complain with no VC, because they know the deal. VC>WW>VC>WW etc...
But by whose ratings? I personally dissagree with a lot of VCR ratings. I have all 14 GEO games and wouldn't give any less than a 3. A 1 Star game to some are 4 star games to others. Take 2 star Gaiden III for example, I'd probably 5 it as it's my favourite one.
@Andrew.
Yeah, I'm being unfair to some by using a generalisation, because not all NA-ers are like that. It just seems that most are however. Which is a shame for the games' sake. Because a lot of greats are going unplayed.
@Tony. Nope, we used the store warranty for most of them, but we had to pay £60 ($120) for the last one to goto MS.
Unless NA gets 200+ VC games next week you lot will still whinge like lil brats. Hell, if one of those 200 isn't SMRPG... "We got Banjo, PD, Conker, Pokemon Blue & Red for the new 200 point GB range, etc... BUT THIS RELEASE SUCKS BECAUSE OF NO SMRPG! I HAVEN'T BOUGHT A VC GAME SINCE NOVEMBER 1982!".
@Will.
Own all 3, 360's the worst because of this one major flaw, the great games it has, need a working console in order to play them. And as I'm on #6, I find that to be a HUGE flaw. Wii & PS3 have yet to break.
Well at least some NA-ers have common sence. Bashing the releases was something I found out to be a stupid idea a long time ago, as we all want different games. And unless you're going to complain to Ninty directly, all you're doing is flooding this place with hundreds of whinge posts.
Which A. Doesn't help your cause and B. Puts people off this place. I know many forums goers whom never come here anymore because of what it's become. And the last big Ninty game I bought was PPL, released about 6 weeks ago.
It's quite nice to know though, that I'm not the only one who's had my thoughts about why we're getting better releases. Because unless the game is SMRPG, it does seem that there'll be hordes of complaints. No matter how good the game is. Take Bio Miracle Bokutte Upa as a perfect example.
@Adamant.
You'd think that if they'd never heard of a game, it'd be proving how much of an underdog it really was.
The more comments I read, the more I laugh. All I can say is, long may these releases continue. Because NA truly does deserve it.
Because I think the way that you're acting, is like 8 year old spoilt brats.
You've always gotten what you want, when you wanted it, and now you're not. So now you act like this.
You all complaon that we're getting 5 games, but why? None of them have been Nintendo games, so would anyone have actually bought them?
You complain about the C64, but you also complain that more consoles reduce releases, so again, why do you want it?
You're in chaos. You're arguments have no real direction or meaning. And the only thing you all seem to agree on, is that you're pissed because we PAL gamers are finally getting something good.
Super, that wasn't what you originally said though. So it threw me. Apologies. Oh, 100 mile. Just because people say that porting to VC is really hard work, and I'd imagine a 100 mile marathon would be too.
And while we don't know WW sales figures, you've just said yourself that we get more Wii's.
#1 Super Mario Bros. 3. #2 Alex Kidd In Miracle World. #3 Super Mario Bros. #4 Super Mario World. #5 Super Mario 64. #6 Pac Man. #7 Mario Kart 64. #8 Sonic the Hedgehog. #9 Donkey Kong. #10 California Games. #11 Ocarina of Time. #12 Bomberman 93. #13 Lylat Wars. #14 Sonic the Hedgehog 3. #15 Super Street Fighter II The New Challengers. #16 Super Mario Bros. 2. #17 Donkey Kong Country. #18 A link to the Past. #19 Metal Slug. #20 Double Dragon.
Yes, Mario is top, but Alex Kidd is 2nd and is above 3 Mario games.
As for WiiWare...
#1 T.V Show King. #2 Lost Winds. #3 Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life As A King. #4 Cocoto Fishing Master. #5 Block Breaker Deluxe. #6 Dr. Mario & Germ Buster. #7 Toki Tori. #8 Star Soldier R. #9 Actionloop Twist.
So yes, Toki is below Dr. Mario. But I just used Toki as an example. And I also used MPR and not Dr. Mario. But as you can see, there are 5 non Ninty games above Dr. Mario, which was my whole point. That 3rd party games seem to sell better here.
I'm willing to post our top 20 VC games if you're interested
Super, aren't NA Wii's made differently to EU Wii's? So how could they just ship them over? They could make more for one location, but they can't just make a billion identacle Wii's and ship some to JPN, some to NA etc...
Euro being stronger has nothing to do with it. If someone sold 10 Apples in American and then 1 in the U.K, where would he have gotten the most cash from?
Also, I never said that you'd never get them, I just said that for the moment, maybe it's not worth there time and effort. I mean, would you run a marathon for 5 bucks?
But as for the only buying Ninty stuff, it's just the impression I get from your top 20 popular games, the comnents on here and the forums, the comments I get on my channel and vids, and the comments I see on other Youtube vids.
Most NA-ers don't seem to want amazing games. They just want Nintendo ones. And I think MPR's #1 spot seems to prove that more people would rather buy **** from Ninty, than quality from TwoTribes.
Thinking about it, on average, we're getting 7 games a fortnight. Which is like having 1 4 game week and 1 3 game week. So we're finally back to premium VC releases it would seem. And I still say that we're doing this well, because STILL! 9 of our top 20 are 3rd party titles.
NA only seem to buy Ninty stuff and just whinge about everything else that comes out. And while that continues to happen, no one's going to bother with the NA VC. Because why should devs port there 60hz versions onto the NA VC?
Why should devs do all that hard work for 100 sales?
It's probably more than that. But compared to the sales they get EU wise, it's still peanuts.
But you guys get WW up the ying yang. So I'm with Rapadash. No one should be complaining.
BTW, I won't be Brawling, as I've already had it, beat it, multiplayered the hell out of it, got bored of it, and lastly sold it
Bit gutted that it's not 3p. Never knew if the C64 version was. But it's still great, and I really hope that it has the funny remaining, so that I can add it to my review
Also I hope it still allows you to change the background (Sun). Because the AMIGA version had both of those and I loved it
Wow, after reading what ECM said, I'm glad it didn't hit this week. Otherwise I'd have bought it straight away. Deffinitely waiting for Corbie's review now.
And my 2 cents on the 700 points arguement, I can buy a lot of amazing games for only 500.
Again though, I see people whinging that they haven't bought something in ages. Last week we got 1X5☆, 2X4☆, 1X3☆ & 1X2☆ game. And personally, I'd rate the 3 and the 2... 4☆'s.
People really need to start looking at these games. And researching them isn't hard. GFAQS, WIKI, Youtube etc...
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Re: Will You Be Bursting Bubbles Today With Pop?
Yeah, the soundtrack is belter
Re: Will You Be Bursting Bubbles Today With Pop?
Sorry to be OT but WWW guys, EU got the FFCCMLAAK content too. So dunno if you wanna article it.
Re: EU WiiWare Update: My Pokémon Ranch and Pop
Sorry to go OT, but like Jonny, my Brawl played fine and my Wii was the first one sold out of the local on launch day.
Anywho, enjoying PoP but I'll never buy MPR.
Re: Will You Be Bursting Bubbles Today With Pop?
I'm enjoying it so far, but I wish the multiplayer lasted longer. A timer set would've been real useful IMHO.
Re: Mega Man 1 & 2 Coming To North America Soon?
Finally.
Re: EU WiiWare Update: My Pokémon Ranch and Pop
Good week. Can't wait till next week VC week
Re: My Pokémon Ranch Due This Friday For Europe
Yay, cheap week this week
I just hope we get the FFCCMLAAK content. But if not, doesn't really matter, I'll just play someat else
Ben, if we don't get Pirates I'd be amazed, because it's out on the DS soon, so you'd think that they'd want to put the Wii Ware prequel out a few weeks before the DS one.
Re: Most Popular WiiWare Games in America (2nd July)
Ninty titles dominate again, what a surprise, didn't see that one coming.
Pretty sure the highest Ninty game we've got is Dr. M at 6. Top 3's T.V, Lost and Cocoto.
Re: US VC Release - 30th June - Fatal Fury 2
But Cally, the loss you'll be taking on selling the Wii game is probably more than a VC game costs.
£3.50 for a rental is the same as a NES game. I sold a game recently where I took more than a £7 hit. £7 is an N64 game.
You can't try before you buy with the VC, but there's more than enough info on A LOT of these games to research them fully.
Hell, goto youtube and search for DEMON212, 689 subscribers can't be wrong
Oh, and as for raining on my parade, why should I care if you lot can't see that you're the reason that you're getting such lackluster releases, because I'm still enjoying our good releases all the same
Peace out y'all, see ya on Friday
Re: US VC Release - 30th June - Fatal Fury 2
Oh, my apologies sire, please complain some more so that I can sleep well tonight.
Tell me how you stepped in a puddle recentally and ruined your favourite trainers.
Moan some more about that ***** at work who's taking all your sales.
Whinge some more about games and gaming in general. Complain about how gaming for 48 hours straight hurts your eyes. But wait, in order to do that you'd need some games to play, and no good games have ever been made.
Pfft, condesending, you think I've been condesending? I haven't even started to get to THAT point.
The only reason this has gone as far is 'cause my Mod powers aren't working again. Because I've been told before that full on whinge posts are perfectly fine to tag.
Re: US VC Release - 30th June - Fatal Fury 2
Then Andrew, you're missing out.
@Kreegs.
But that's just it. WE'RE not buying CRAP games because there's nothing out. WE'RE buying QUALITY games while we're waiting for even more quality games. The problem is, Crack Down, Metal Slug, Fatal Fury, Alex Kidd etc... aren't Nintendo. That doesn't mean that they're crap though. And I really wish people would just try them out rather than being the stereotypical Fanboys that they're acting like!
And I think it's quite evident that we don't all want the same thing. While we both want quality games, some of us have our minds more open than others as to what quality games are.
Re: US VC Release - 30th June - Fatal Fury 2
@Mike
SMRPG post has over 200 replies. So it's getting there. But how many are worth reading? How many are repeated? (As in, how many are whiny whingy whingers complaining?)
Most of Europe won't complain with no VC, because they know the deal. VC>WW>VC>WW etc...
Re: US VC Release - 30th June - Fatal Fury 2
@Kult.
But by whose ratings? I personally dissagree with a lot of VCR ratings. I have all 14 GEO games and wouldn't give any less than a 3. A 1 Star game to some are 4 star games to others. Take 2 star Gaiden III for example, I'd probably 5 it as it's my favourite one.
@Andrew.
Yeah, I'm being unfair to some by using a generalisation, because not all NA-ers are like that. It just seems that most are however. Which is a shame for the games' sake. Because a lot of greats are going unplayed.
@Tony. Nope, we used the store warranty for most of them, but we had to pay £60 ($120) for the last one to goto MS.
Re: Final Fantasy: My Life as a King Downloadable Content
700 points, cool. Hope these hit on Friday.
Re: US VC Release - 30th June - Fatal Fury 2
@Virus.
Unless NA gets 200+ VC games next week you lot will still whinge like lil brats. Hell, if one of those 200 isn't SMRPG... "We got Banjo, PD, Conker, Pokemon Blue & Red for the new 200 point GB range, etc... BUT THIS RELEASE SUCKS BECAUSE OF NO SMRPG! I HAVEN'T BOUGHT A VC GAME SINCE NOVEMBER 1982!".
@Will.
Own all 3, 360's the worst because of this one major flaw, the great games it has, need a working console in order to play them. And as I'm on #6, I find that to be a HUGE flaw. Wii & PS3 have yet to break.
Re: US VC Release - 30th June - Fatal Fury 2
Fordian, since October? Just what the hell kinda titles do you want?
Re: US VC Release - 30th June - Fatal Fury 2
Well at least some NA-ers have common sence. Bashing the releases was something I found out to be a stupid idea a long time ago, as we all want different games. And unless you're going to complain to Ninty directly, all you're doing is flooding this place with hundreds of whinge posts.
Which A. Doesn't help your cause and B. Puts people off this place. I know many forums goers whom never come here anymore because of what it's become. And the last big Ninty game I bought was PPL, released about 6 weeks ago.
It's quite nice to know though, that I'm not the only one who's had my thoughts about why we're getting better releases. Because unless the game is SMRPG, it does seem that there'll be hordes of complaints. No matter how good the game is. Take Bio Miracle Bokutte Upa as a perfect example.
@Adamant.
You'd think that if they'd never heard of a game, it'd be proving how much of an underdog it really was.
Re: USA WiiWare Update: Magnetica Twist
I say MPR and Pirates, as the DS Pirates is out soon. In like 2-3 weeks. So if we don't get it this week, we'll get it on the same day as the DS one.
Re: US VC Release - 30th June - Fatal Fury 2
The more comments I read, the more I laugh. All I can say is, long may these releases continue. Because NA truly does deserve it.
Because I think the way that you're acting, is like 8 year old spoilt brats.
You've always gotten what you want, when you wanted it, and now you're not. So now you act like this.
You all complaon that we're getting 5 games, but why? None of them have been Nintendo games, so would anyone have actually bought them?
You complain about the C64, but you also complain that more consoles reduce releases, so again, why do you want it?
You're in chaos. You're arguments have no real direction or meaning. And the only thing you all seem to agree on, is that you're pissed because we PAL gamers are finally getting something good.
Re: US VC Release - 30th June - Fatal Fury 2
Tony, more systems = more games. What you mean is, more systems = less games that you want being released on a weekly basis.
But some want SMS and NG games, I know I do.
Re: USA WiiWare Update: Magnetica Twist
Great game
Re: US VC Release - 30th June - Fatal Fury 2
Good release. Both great titles
Re: Drake's Ratings Roundup - June 2008
Finally. Been wondering when you guys would do this.
Some great games rated IMO
Re: EU VC Releases - 27th June - Super Fantasy Zone
I'll trade you your Gas prices for ours Yoshi.
Re: EU VC Releases - 27th June - Super Fantasy Zone
@Quimby.
No, lol.
Never played SMRPG, but I bet I've played IK+ more than the time it'll take me to beat SMRPG.
So I'd rather have the C64 games for now.
Re: EU VC Releases - 27th June - Super Fantasy Zone
Super, that wasn't what you originally said though. So it threw me. Apologies. Oh, 100 mile. Just because people say that porting to VC is really hard work, and I'd imagine a 100 mile marathon would be too.
And while we don't know WW sales figures, you've just said yourself that we get more Wii's.
Re: EU VC Releases - 27th June - Super Fantasy Zone
Top 20 VC list UK
As of 27/06/08
#1 Super Mario Bros. 3.
#2 Alex Kidd In Miracle World.
#3 Super Mario Bros.
#4 Super Mario World.
#5 Super Mario 64.
#6 Pac Man.
#7 Mario Kart 64.
#8 Sonic the Hedgehog.
#9 Donkey Kong.
#10 California Games.
#11 Ocarina of Time.
#12 Bomberman 93.
#13 Lylat Wars.
#14 Sonic the Hedgehog 3.
#15 Super Street Fighter II The New Challengers.
#16 Super Mario Bros. 2.
#17 Donkey Kong Country.
#18 A link to the Past.
#19 Metal Slug.
#20 Double Dragon.
Re: USK Rated: International Karate+ and Cybernoid for C64
Please let IK+ and Space Harrier hit next week.
Re: Space Harrier
Can't wait. Been praying for it since the SMS hit. Billion times better than SH2.
Welcome to the Fantasy Zone bitch, get ready
Re: EU VC Releases - 27th June - Super Fantasy Zone
I'd rather have Space Harrier for the SMS. That first then anything else.
Re: EU VC Releases - 27th June - Super Fantasy Zone
Brooks.
Yes, Mario is top, but Alex Kidd is 2nd and is above 3 Mario games.
As for WiiWare...
#1 T.V Show King.
#2 Lost Winds.
#3 Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life As A King.
#4 Cocoto Fishing Master.
#5 Block Breaker Deluxe.
#6 Dr. Mario & Germ Buster.
#7 Toki Tori.
#8 Star Soldier R.
#9 Actionloop Twist.
So yes, Toki is below Dr. Mario. But I just used Toki as an example. And I also used MPR and not Dr. Mario. But as you can see, there are 5 non Ninty games above Dr. Mario, which was my whole point. That 3rd party games seem to sell better here.
I'm willing to post our top 20 VC games if you're interested
Re: Japanese Virtual Console list - July 2008
Welcome to the Fantasy zone, get ready!
Can't wait till we get it. SOOOOOOO much better than 2.
Re: King of the Monsters
Bought this straight away because it's co-op. VC needs more co-op games.
Re: EU VC Releases - 27th June - Super Fantasy Zone
Super, aren't NA Wii's made differently to EU Wii's? So how could they just ship them over? They could make more for one location, but they can't just make a billion identacle Wii's and ship some to JPN, some to NA etc...
Euro being stronger has nothing to do with it. If someone sold 10 Apples in American and then 1 in the U.K, where would he have gotten the most cash from?
Also, I never said that you'd never get them, I just said that for the moment, maybe it's not worth there time and effort. I mean, would you run a marathon for 5 bucks?
But as for the only buying Ninty stuff, it's just the impression I get from your top 20 popular games, the comnents on here and the forums, the comments I get on my channel and vids, and the comments I see on other Youtube vids.
Most NA-ers don't seem to want amazing games. They just want Nintendo ones. And I think MPR's #1 spot seems to prove that more people would rather buy **** from Ninty, than quality from TwoTribes.
Re: EU VC Releases - 27th June - Super Fantasy Zone
Thinking about it, on average, we're getting 7 games a fortnight. Which is like having 1 4 game week and 1 3 game week. So we're finally back to premium VC releases it would seem. And I still say that we're doing this well, because STILL! 9 of our top 20 are 3rd party titles.
NA only seem to buy Ninty stuff and just whinge about everything else that comes out. And while that continues to happen, no one's going to bother with the NA VC. Because why should devs port there 60hz versions onto the NA VC?
Why should devs do all that hard work for 100 sales?
It's probably more than that. But compared to the sales they get EU wise, it's still peanuts.
But you guys get WW up the ying yang. So I'm with Rapadash. No one should be complaining.
BTW, I won't be Brawling, as I've already had it, beat it, multiplayered the hell out of it, got bored of it, and lastly sold it
Re: Most Popular WiiWare Games in North America (25th June)
Cocoto's 4 in ours. Toki's 7!
Re: World Heroes 2
Charco, maybe people want the full set. I do. I don't just buy Ocarina because it's the bext Zelda, I get ALTTP too.
Re: Review: Cocoto Fishing Master
Can't believe this is 4 in the U.K. Toki is 7!
Re: Super Mario RPG Released in Japan Today
Rondo doesn't need a trans.
IMO this Hanabi was amazing, I only didn't buy 2 of them. Columns and Boxing.
Re: Super Mario RPG Released in Japan Today
Hanabi #3=SMRPG, NG II & III, Rondo, Earthbound, Dig Dug, Bio Miracle Bokutte Upa & DoReMi me thinks.
Re: Review: Gyrostarr
7/10, not bad. Think I'll pick it up. You like Drake, have good taste in SHMUPS.
Re: Cybernoid: The Fighting Machine
Metroid meets SHMUP... ME WANTEE NOW!
Re: USK Rated: International Karate+ and Cybernoid for C64
Objection, please tell me that you're not saying that based on there graphics/basicness.
Because I'd take IK+ over SMG, GearsOW, GodOW, Halo etc... anyday of the week.
Re: International Karate+
Thanks Kelvin
Man I can't wait for this. Please hit on Thursday
I'll gladly "settle" for another 2 C64, 2 NG and 1 SMS. Just like 2 weeks ago
Re: USA WiiWare Update: Gyrostarr
I like Knuckles' plan, get Corbie to leak his review bit by bit
Re: International Karate+
YAY! IK+ FTW!
Bit gutted that it's not 3p. Never knew if the C64 version was. But it's still great, and I really hope that it has the funny remaining, so that I can add it to my review
Also I hope it still allows you to change the background (Sun). Because the AMIGA version had both of those and I loved it
Re: USA WiiWare Update: Gyrostarr
Wow, after reading what ECM said, I'm glad it didn't hit this week. Otherwise I'd have bought it straight away. Deffinitely waiting for Corbie's review now.
And my 2 cents on the 700 points arguement, I can buy a lot of amazing games for only 500.
Re: USK Rated: International Karate+ and Cybernoid for C64
IK+ FTW!
Re: Gyrostarr hits WiiWare this Monday!
Lucky *******'*!
Re: EU VC Releases - 20th June - Epic Fail
Rexy, releases are at midnight.
Again though, I see people whinging that they haven't bought something in ages. Last week we got 1X5☆, 2X4☆, 1X3☆ & 1X2☆ game. And personally, I'd rate the 3 and the 2... 4☆'s.
People really need to start looking at these games. And researching them isn't hard. GFAQS, WIKI, Youtube etc...