I don't mind Zelda being a once or twice a generation thing. Was there a problem with Zelda being a once or twice a generation? Hell we got Spirit Tracks, Ocraina of Time 3d, Skyward Sword, Wind Waker HD, and Link Between Worlds, The oracle games on vc, in just the last few years. I really don't need more Zelda than that!
Just those functions and off tv play make the gamepad really cool. I'd love to see some really innovative games that use the gamepad in ways not possible before. But I just downloaded game and wario and it's very much a game that wasn't possible before the gamepad.
You go and play Spirit Tracks, Skyward Sword, and Oracle of Ages like I just did recently and they don't even remotely seem like the same experience! These complaints are probably from people that don't actually play the games! Even in the Mario series there's an extremely varied experience among all the games.
I don't really care about a new ips necessarily, I just want to see their old ones in HD! I think they might need a new IP to grab the attention of the casual market though, the way Wii Sports, Nintendogs, Brain Age, etc. did. Something that utilizes the gamepad. I want to see a brand new IP that couldn't have been done before the gamepad!
I know thats your point its mine too. As long as they create a consistent release schedule the console will do fine. They seem to be fairly prolificse days and don't need toely othird parties. We were going to get to a point where it couldn't handle the many multiplats anywauy.
Why does getting all the third party content really matter for Nintendo? Their job is to make affotrdable consoles that serve up Nintendo exclusives that's it what's the big damn deal lol! All the drama surrounding Nintendo is neither here nor there.
There you go. Pretty much what everyone wanted them to say at E3 in a two and a half hour press event, except in ten minutes. Can everyone be happy now!?!?
Sure, theres the XL for 200, but no one really goes for the 300 dollar basic so I don't know if the cheaper option means much. And the difference is only color and memory. 32 gigs should be minimum anyway.
I dunno if I'll get a Ps4 yet. If you own both 3ds and Wiiu and haven't ejoyed many of the multiplats on Wiiu, there's actually a lot to play right now. I'd like them to fix their situation with third parties, but for now what they have is fine.
Nintendos strategy should be first party second partyand indies the third party games will come if there's an install base. Also EA should try games that work for a Nintendo platform I heard the sonic racing game sold pretty well.
Metroid prime is an incredible series but the game was originally designed to compete with Halo and other shooters. Different but it was to compete. Now that Nintendo isn't trying to compete with that whole "arms race" I don't really know where the Metroid franchise fits in. I'd love to see any form of Metroid game in HD ESPECIALLY a Metroid Prime game. Metroid prime is still one of the prettiest games out there and it's ten years old.
Also, Metroid Prime turned out to be Niche. Not everyone liked being Samus in first person. And looking at the design choices of Nintendo's other games recently I'd bet money they're going to go with a sidescrolling metroid over another FPS title. We could hope but it doesn't look good!
Yeah I'm not big on the idea of Nintendo "Westernizing" that's hurt so many japanese devs in recent years and i go in more for Nintendo because their games aren't just movie wannabes. Leave that jobs to the west that's immersed in hollywood and have it as part of their culture and something they grew up with.
That's so Sony's niche though. Nintendo did that mature ocarina and it just wasn't as interesting as Skyward sword later and Other M tried to be narrative focused and... I dunno. If they did a mature themed game get the right people to do it and don't do last of us, do it Nintendo style within the gameplay. Wait, that would probably just be oddworld, lol.
I thought Ps4 dropped the mega bomb with the no used game drm announcement and price but Wiiu had more games to show off and they looked unique to everyone else's content. So Sony i was glad they weren't pulling a Microsoft but Nintendo had way more games i wanted to play.
I feel the same way and i'm excited for what's coming. 3d Land was great and this looks like a cool sequel! I don't ever play with friends but the kids will and families will love it. Wish it was online for us that don't have kids and are older and don't really want to invite full grown adults over to play the marios!
I'll probably stick with Wiiu, maybe get a PS3 slim for bluray. I'll wait for the naughty dog games and the redesign before considering the PS4. Definitely not getting the Xbox One. Besides the difference between PS4/Xbox one and Wiiu looks like the difference between PS2 and Xbox. Not any big deal. I'm sure as the years go they'll be a bigger difference, but I think we got a couple of years before we really see it. I'd like to see a big open world game look as good as last of us. But the money involved in that would probably be insane so who knows if we'd ever even get it!
Backwards compatibility would have made PS4 a day one for me it's a shame they couldn't make a version of PS4 that had full compatibility with all of playstation's library!
Thus far of the console announcements I may just stick with the WIiu. I don't really go on steam anymore. Even though there's good games on that I mostly don't have time for them because I have plenty to play between 3ds and Wiiu. I don't feel the need to pay for online because I'm not on often enough to make it worth it. And I'd rather watch a movie on netflix than play a game that wants to be a movie so many of the triple a games don't always appeal to me. I like games where it doesn't take a few hours just to get to the fun part. Brown shooters or big open barren lands like in skyrim don't appeal to me. The most interesting damn thing on the other consoles is the Last of Us and that's freakin' a game on last gen tech, if they showed that on PS4 people would have been like "OMG the GRAPHICS!" So the best looking game on Sony consoles is coming out on PS3 just months before the launch of the PS4 that doesn't have games that look nearly as good? Fail!
No, go with what sells to bring in customers and then also do a new ip but i don't want creative teams taken away from the hd mario and zelda just for this super ip.
3dland didnt feel rushed theres a ton of content in that darn game! If there's a delay people bitch, if it comes a month earlier than expected even though it was years in development it's 'rushed'! The internet fails at everything!
And heavy price hikes will likely kill consoles if that happens. There's a good chance mobiles and other open platforms will continue to take up the vast majority of the market share. The only thing is sometimes sales are actually better on consoles for a game despite the huge install base of phones. That was the same story with the Wii vs. the 360 and PS3 so it'll be interesting to see how things go.
Here's my two cents on what both Nintendo and second and third parties are doing. They're moving most of their games to a late summer to holiday release time. The reason? Third parties probably perceive that as being a time that they'll be a second rush of people picking up the Wiiu console. For Nintendo I think the strategy is to have a broad selection of new games to play come holiday so that when consumers look to pick out a console next year they'll be looking at PS4 and 720 which will be expensive and light on content and comparing that to Wiiu which will likely be quite a bit cheaper and will theoretically have a great deal of content by this time. I don't think quality has anything to do with it, they see curing the current draught as less of a necessity as they do making the case for Wiiu at the end of the year. They're focusing a glut of content for that time period because that's when people will be looking at the Wiiu in stores most.
3ds got quite a bit of a lead on Vita because of this. You went to the store and yeah the Vita had a lot of launch games but 3ds was getting a pretty good selection at this point, the quality of the games were comparable, and yeah the graphics weren't as good, but for a portable they were good enough and 3ds games were by no means ugly, plus the asking price was considerably less.
So, much less then curing the draught, things are really riding on end of the year hoopla. The people waiting for games already bought the system and know things are eventually coming. It appears as though Nintendo is putting most focus between august and christmas 2013 to make a case for the Wiiu. It's definitely an all or nothing approach in my view. We'll see if it works out for them! There's good chances it will unless they just really screw things up!
More VC titles, and eshop downloads, even some hd gamecube games. Stuff like that would certainly be good service to people that bought the console early however, and it's a shame they aren't doing that more!
There are good games just not system sellers. I bought the console for raymabs because I love ray man games and Nintendo fans might be one of the few left that buy consoles f sidescrollers! That said is that game viable at 60? I see the value and will get it when others get gta but ultimately that 60 dollar price point seems odd to me! I think the game is worth it but the general public probably won't perceive a game like that the same way as a shooter that they'll pay 60 and then buy dlc for. It's just because people don't care about hand drawn art anymore they don't perceive the value.
That's the kind of game that may have been good as episodes to hook people in. They'd be more likely to buy a few levels at 10 and then get a few more if they had a blast with it.
@Fusion14 Dude I typed that from a Starbucks where my 3ds connected automatically and they also have that Nintendo Zone thing at them. I'm in Seattle though the home of Starbucks with NOA nearby so maybe that's it but every time I pass a Starbucks my 3ds gets internet pretty much.
There could be a lot of good potential out of this too. There's no doubt a show coming out would have them compared to Sony and Microsoft and they really don't want to be compared to Sony and Microsoft anymore. So much less of the console war garbage of "how will you compete with A from Sony and how will you compete with B from Microsoft" and more focus on all of the games. I really DON"T want people to talk about if the WIiu is next gen or not for three weeks when it doesn't loving matter because the games are awesome and that whole "next gen" thing is just loving marketing buzzwords like "hardcore" that all the drones have a pavlovian response to!
The other possiblity is if the other two consoles just try to rip eachother apart but neither one gets out of it with much success nintendo may come out more ahead then we've bargained. But who knows that's a big if! Watch the profanity — TBD
I don't think the mainstream watches public these, it's the press. And the press are still being catered to. I do wonder if potential stock investors will back Nintendo if they don't have the hype from a show.
They've had to appeal to too many people with these, the fans, the press, the stock investors, and the general public. And they've gotten boring. I'm fine with a fancast and then footage from gaming press about the games just like we had a week or so ago. And I don't need to know the whole year anymore, just what's coming out in the next few months.
I feel it does say one thing though. Nintendo is doing their own thing with the Wiiu and 3ds and they have their own goals with those systems. They are NOT competing with Sony and Microsoft this gen pretty much just like last gen. The Wiiu will be just like 3ds and get lots of 1st party games and then probably a lot of the Japanese third party support and hopefully we'll see that support make it to the west because their affordable consoles are a better venue for it these days!
I'm just glad they're still around and I'm sure they'll be fine!
Thing is E3 doesn't really do much for the mainstream wow factor except for a headline or two. If I see the games and they advertise to get this system off the ground ill be happy!
Nintendo doing their own thing like always looks like the nintendo directs are the announcements and besides another ND at e3 its going to be about all the games we've already heard about. Looks like they aren't going to compete with the sony microsoft hype train, that's not their thing anymore. With 3ds it doesn't matter but wiiu? I dunno i dont even watch that stuff, i dont care about ceo conferences they're too officey. So for me nintendo direct is all i need.
Yeah, Wiiu! It's a bit better than the Wii! Look at this guy, he says it's different it's gotta be! Not really a good marketing campaign, lol! It's like they're admitting defeat almost! Like "I know this console looks like poo but it's actually kinda cool!"
The Wiiu add campaign is meh! They really don't inspire hype for the system but perhaps that add campaign isn't going to start until there's first party games to sell the system and not just a sidescroller that's a lot like the one everyone has on Wii!
They kinda lied about what the wii remote could do in the add campaign of the last console and perhaps wanting to avoid that this time has caused for a lot more boring adds? Who knows!
@banacheck I'm fairly certain game budgets will go up, they have every gen! UNLESS they make games on more affordable budgets, which is entirely possible. It isn't only graphics but everything you've mentioned, better AI, better animations, more characters on screen, would factor into cost as well. But I'm speaking of that "next gen" look! The look they try to go for to "warrant" the purchase of the console and make a case for why you need it, is going to be expensive. That is if they go with that strategy this time and seeing how things are in the industry I think they'll sell these consoles more as an evolution than a leap. The features are going to be more important. I'm comparing the cap for what they're willing to spend on a video game budget to the cap on budgets for PORTABLES that, in my view, prevent the PSVITA from doing much that really outperforms the 3ds.
My point is graphical updates use to make the last gen look inferior. They just don't anymore. Graphics will continue to get better but I don't think it's any big deal and you just don't need a massive gaming tower to get good graphics anymore. Graphics are becoming a moot point and the leap feels less and less every gen. They could even make a good uncharted game on a 3ds if they wanted believe it or not!
My point was analysing that the screens are smaller so we're seeing a plateau a gen behind. We're seeing that the graphics are good on PSVITA, but it isn't a deal breaker for the 3ds by any means. I think we're finally going to see the same thing happen with the consoles this gen. Graphics will be noticeably better, but probably won't be a deal breaker either way. Plus, devs are going to rethink how they make games so we'll probably see lest focus on making those "special effects reels" they're calling games to warrant the console.
For me personally, I think it's going to be open world games that we'll see the biggest facelift. Those seem to be the games that always start to look dated earliest for me.
Yes I want it for Wiiu! If we got this and Metal Gear I'd be thrilled! Anything being ported up to PS4/720 that also don't have an install base should be ported to Wiiu as well! There's no excuse! Unfortunately, it's probably likely that Nintendo is going to miss this one!
I think the portable market could be kind of a window into what's to come with the consoles. I, personally, began to feel we hit a point the graphical difference became so small on portables it doesn't even matter. What I mean is there was a pretty noticeable leap between DS and PSP and Wii and PS3. Now with 3ds to VIta, yeah there's a difference between Uncharted and Mario 3d land and Resident Evil... but does anyone really actually CARE at this point. And I think we hit this point where it would cost too much money to make a "Next Gen" Vita game that would "prove" 3ds to be truly inferior tech. Now you can compare this gen of portables to Wii and PS3, true, but smaller screens are part of the reason the difference is less stark on 3ds and PSvita.
Now Wiiu and PS4 and 720 are on bigger screens, but I think this is the gen where we really see it become almost a pointless endeavour especially now that everyone is in HD and in order to fully use the PS4 hardware means a more expensive budget on a console with no initial install base, so it won't get that initial wow factor for several years. Like Vita it may become too expensive for 720 or PS4 developers to throw the money in to really set themselves apart from Wiiu games. Plus we aren't factoring in that many of the Graphics Whores on consoles are suddenly realizing there's this thing called a PC and are going to that for their graphics fix now.
I don't know, I think we know what we're getting with Wiiu, HD nintendo. I think there's much more a question mark with new Xbox and Playstation than people would like you to believe. The multiplats aren't going to matter anymore imo, because in a few years they're going to be on every damn device out there from a PC to a phone.
Wooo! That was a long rant! I should end it with a "But that's just my opinion! I could be wrong!" haha!
I guess my final point that brings everything home is this. Will Uncharted 5 make Mario Galaxy 3 look any less fantastic. No, not really. Like Golden Abyss and 3d Land, at the end of the day the experience we'll probably feel pretty comparable. Long way to say that I guess.
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Re: Eiji Aonuma - The Wind Waker HD is a "Test Case" for New Zelda Wii U Title
I don't mind Zelda being a once or twice a generation thing. Was there a problem with Zelda being a once or twice a generation? Hell we got Spirit Tracks, Ocraina of Time 3d, Skyward Sword, Wind Waker HD, and Link Between Worlds, The oracle games on vc, in just the last few years. I really don't need more Zelda than that!
Re: Miyamoto: GamePad's Touch Screen Primarily Used To Make Navigating Menus Easier
Just those functions and off tv play make the gamepad really cool. I'd love to see some really innovative games that use the gamepad in ways not possible before. But I just downloaded game and wario and it's very much a game that wasn't possible before the gamepad.
Re: Miyamoto: Fresh Experiences Make A New Game, Not New Characters
You go and play Spirit Tracks, Skyward Sword, and Oracle of Ages like I just did recently and they don't even remotely seem like the same experience! These complaints are probably from people that don't actually play the games! Even in the Mario series there's an extremely varied experience among all the games.
I don't really care about a new ips necessarily, I just want to see their old ones in HD! I think they might need a new IP to grab the attention of the casual market though, the way Wii Sports, Nintendogs, Brain Age, etc. did. Something that utilizes the gamepad. I want to see a brand new IP that couldn't have been done before the gamepad!
Re: Mario Kart 8 Team Talk GamePad Features, Track Design And F-Zero
What the hell! Fzero and Prime should be major games they're working on fornthis HD console!
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U's Third-Party Concerns Are Brushed Off By 3DS
I know thats your point its mine too. As long as they create a consistent release schedule the console will do fine. They seem to be fairly prolificse days and don't need toely othird parties. We were going to get to a point where it couldn't handle the many multiplats anywauy.
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U's Third-Party Concerns Are Brushed Off By 3DS
Why does getting all the third party content really matter for Nintendo? Their job is to make affotrdable consoles that serve up Nintendo exclusives that's it what's the big damn deal lol! All the drama surrounding Nintendo is neither here nor there.
Re: Investor Approval Rating For Satoru Iwata Drops To 77.26 Precent
@Burning_Spear Yeah they had a lot of third party support out the gate and now they're forced to win everybody back. Not good!
Re: Investor Approval Rating For Satoru Iwata Drops To 77.26 Precent
A little absurd. Considering the poor sales of the first year of Wiiu, it's amazing it's not even lower! A little perspective!
Re: Video: Reggie Explains Nintendo's Approach to Ensuring Wii U Success
There you go. Pretty much what everyone wanted them to say at E3 in a two and a half hour press event, except in ten minutes. Can everyone be happy now!?!?
Re: Iwata Says He Didn't Commit to Stepping Down Over Missed Profit Targets
Didn't he just say he'd be accountable if they didn't meet it?
Re: Video: Reggie Shows Off Wii U to Jimmy Fallon, Hilarity Ensues
Why does anyone care how good jimmy is at games? Lol.
Re: Iwata: We Are To Blame For Poor Wii U Sales
Sure, theres the XL for 200, but no one really goes for the 300 dollar basic so I don't know if the cheaper option means much. And the difference is only color and memory. 32 gigs should be minimum anyway.
Re: Iwata: We Are To Blame For Poor Wii U Sales
Wii: 250 360: 400 Ps3: 600
Wiiu: 350 Xbone: 500 Ps4: 400
Price Point of other consoles is the same but Nintendo raises theirs.
Re: Molyneux: Nintendo Is "Brilliant" At Attracting Players, But Their Hardware "Gets In The Way"
I don't feel the need to tell Nintendo how to run Nintendo. They make a lot of money with their software and exclusive software sells hardware.
Re: Pachter: Without Third Party Support Nintendo Fans May End Up Buying A Second Console
I dunno if I'll get a Ps4 yet. If you own both 3ds and Wiiu and haven't ejoyed many of the multiplats on Wiiu, there's actually a lot to play right now. I'd like them to fix their situation with third parties, but for now what they have is fine.
Re: EA Will "Jump Back In" If Wii U Becomes A "Viable Platform"
Nintendos strategy should be first party second partyand indies the third party games will come if there's an install base. Also EA should try games that work for a Nintendo platform I heard the sonic racing game sold pretty well.
Re: Time: Nintendo Is "Stumped" By The Wii U GamePad And Should Ditch It
Nintendo is a terrible company and they should feel bad because they didnt make a Ps4 or Xbox blah blah blah!
Re: Retro Studios Working on "One Major Project at a Time"
Metroid prime is an incredible series but the game was originally designed to compete with Halo and other shooters. Different but it was to compete. Now that Nintendo isn't trying to compete with that whole "arms race" I don't really know where the Metroid franchise fits in. I'd love to see any form of Metroid game in HD ESPECIALLY a Metroid Prime game. Metroid prime is still one of the prettiest games out there and it's ten years old.
Also, Metroid Prime turned out to be Niche. Not everyone liked being Samus in first person. And looking at the design choices of Nintendo's other games recently I'd bet money they're going to go with a sidescrolling metroid over another FPS title. We could hope but it doesn't look good!
Re: Wolfenstein: The New Order Looks Set To Skip Wii U
Yeah, no surprises there. The game looks awesome though.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Should Aim to Produce Mature, Genre-Defining Storytelling Experiences
Yeah I'm not big on the idea of Nintendo "Westernizing" that's hurt so many japanese devs in recent years and i go in more for Nintendo because their games aren't just movie wannabes. Leave that jobs to the west that's immersed in hollywood and have it as part of their culture and something they grew up with.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Should Aim to Produce Mature, Genre-Defining Storytelling Experiences
That's so Sony's niche though. Nintendo did that mature ocarina and it just wasn't as interesting as Skyward sword later and Other M tried to be narrative focused and... I dunno. If they did a mature themed game get the right people to do it and don't do last of us, do it Nintendo style within the gameplay. Wait, that would probably just be oddworld, lol.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Wii U Lineup Makes Commercial Sense
I thought Ps4 dropped the mega bomb with the no used game drm announcement and price but Wiiu had more games to show off and they looked unique to everyone else's content. So Sony i was glad they weren't pulling a Microsoft but Nintendo had way more games i wanted to play.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Wii U Lineup Makes Commercial Sense
I feel the same way and i'm excited for what's coming. 3d Land was great and this looks like a cool sequel! I don't ever play with friends but the kids will and families will love it. Wish it was online for us that don't have kids and are older and don't really want to invite full grown adults over to play the marios!
Re: Talking Point: Wii U vs Xbox One - Online Requirements and On-Disc DRM
I'll probably stick with Wiiu, maybe get a PS3 slim for bluray. I'll wait for the naughty dog games and the redesign before considering the PS4. Definitely not getting the Xbox One. Besides the difference between PS4/Xbox one and Wiiu looks like the difference between PS2 and Xbox. Not any big deal. I'm sure as the years go they'll be a bigger difference, but I think we got a couple of years before we really see it. I'd like to see a big open world game look as good as last of us. But the money involved in that would probably be insane so who knows if we'd ever even get it!
Backwards compatibility would have made PS4 a day one for me it's a shame they couldn't make a version of PS4 that had full compatibility with all of playstation's library!
Re: Talking Point: Wii U vs Xbox One - Online Requirements and On-Disc DRM
Thus far of the console announcements I may just stick with the WIiu. I don't really go on steam anymore. Even though there's good games on that I mostly don't have time for them because I have plenty to play between 3ds and Wiiu. I don't feel the need to pay for online because I'm not on often enough to make it worth it. And I'd rather watch a movie on netflix than play a game that wants to be a movie so many of the triple a games don't always appeal to me. I like games where it doesn't take a few hours just to get to the fun part. Brown shooters or big open barren lands like in skyrim don't appeal to me. The most interesting damn thing on the other consoles is the Last of Us and that's freakin' a game on last gen tech, if they showed that on PS4 people would have been like "OMG the GRAPHICS!" So the best looking game on Sony consoles is coming out on PS3 just months before the launch of the PS4 that doesn't have games that look nearly as good? Fail!
Re: Dylan Cuthbert of Q-Games - Nintendo and Wii U Need a "New Super IP"
No, go with what sells to bring in customers and then also do a new ip but i don't want creative teams taken away from the hd mario and zelda just for this super ip.
Re: UK Mainstream Newspaper Declares 3DS The "Best Console Ever"
Cool! Can't wait for Nintendo to turn it around for wiiu!
Re: Talking Point: Censoring Boingy Bits, Bums and Gore
Im pretty sure boingy bits is in the bible somewhere! If it isn't there's everything else that happens in the bible too!
Re: Talking Point: Censoring Boingy Bits, Bums and Gore
You have to show id just to buy an m rated game, this is stupid anymore. More nudity would be nice all gore and no sex is dull!
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Planning a 3D Mario Release on Wii U Before October
3dland didnt feel rushed theres a ton of content in that darn game! If there's a delay people bitch, if it comes a month earlier than expected even though it was years in development it's 'rushed'! The internet fails at everything!
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Planning a 3D Mario Release on Wii U Before October
If i didn'talready buy the console i woukd have for 3d mario in hd! Its gonna feel like n64 all over again, it can't be missed!
Re: Smartphones And Tablets To Be "Primary Screen For Gamers" By 2017
And heavy price hikes will likely kill consoles if that happens. There's a good chance mobiles and other open platforms will continue to take up the vast majority of the market share. The only thing is sometimes sales are actually better on consoles for a game despite the huge install base of phones. That was the same story with the Wii vs. the 360 and PS3 so it'll be interesting to see how things go.
Re: Talking Point: Lessons to be Learned, Again, From the Wii U Games Drought
Here's my two cents on what both Nintendo and second and third parties are doing. They're moving most of their games to a late summer to holiday release time. The reason? Third parties probably perceive that as being a time that they'll be a second rush of people picking up the Wiiu console. For Nintendo I think the strategy is to have a broad selection of new games to play come holiday so that when consumers look to pick out a console next year they'll be looking at PS4 and 720 which will be expensive and light on content and comparing that to Wiiu which will likely be quite a bit cheaper and will theoretically have a great deal of content by this time. I don't think quality has anything to do with it, they see curing the current draught as less of a necessity as they do making the case for Wiiu at the end of the year. They're focusing a glut of content for that time period because that's when people will be looking at the Wiiu in stores most.
3ds got quite a bit of a lead on Vita because of this. You went to the store and yeah the Vita had a lot of launch games but 3ds was getting a pretty good selection at this point, the quality of the games were comparable, and yeah the graphics weren't as good, but for a portable they were good enough and 3ds games were by no means ugly, plus the asking price was considerably less.
So, much less then curing the draught, things are really riding on end of the year hoopla. The people waiting for games already bought the system and know things are eventually coming. It appears as though Nintendo is putting most focus between august and christmas 2013 to make a case for the Wiiu. It's definitely an all or nothing approach in my view. We'll see if it works out for them! There's good chances it will unless they just really screw things up!
More VC titles, and eshop downloads, even some hd gamecube games. Stuff like that would certainly be good service to people that bought the console early however, and it's a shame they aren't doing that more!
Re: Rumour: GTA V Has Been Tested On Wii U Dev Kits For Some Time
Of course I'd buy gtav on wiiu not even a question! I don't see this as impossible we got bully and manhunt.
Re: Talking Point: Lessons to be Learned, Again, From the Wii U Games Drought
There are good games just not system sellers. I bought the console for raymabs because I love ray man games and Nintendo fans might be one of the few left that buy consoles f sidescrollers! That said is that game viable at 60? I see the value and will get it when others get gta but ultimately that 60 dollar price point seems odd to me! I think the game is worth it but the general public probably won't perceive a game like that the same way as a shooter that they'll pay 60 and then buy dlc for. It's just because people don't care about hand drawn art anymore they don't perceive the value.
That's the kind of game that may have been good as episodes to hook people in. They'd be more likely to buy a few levels at 10 and then get a few more if they had a blast with it.
Re: Platinum's Inaba: Wonderful 101 Is So Much Fun You'll "Wear Out Your GamePad"
But its the first controller that you can't buy a replacement yet I don't wanna wear it out haha!
Re: Wii U and 3DS Online Connection Rates Exceed 80%
@MasterWario I wonder if there are people that are scared to street pass haha! Maybe it's like exchanging fluids to them!
Re: Wii U and 3DS Online Connection Rates Exceed 80%
@Fusion14 Dude I typed that from a Starbucks where my 3ds connected automatically and they also have that Nintendo Zone thing at them. I'm in Seattle though the home of Starbucks with NOA nearby so maybe that's it but every time I pass a Starbucks my 3ds gets internet pretty much.
Re: Analyst: Nintendo of America "Forgot Marketing 101" For Wii U
It's true! But being a year early they haven't much cared about competition yet and it sucks!! Best console to date worst marketing ever!
Re: Wii U and 3DS Online Connection Rates Exceed 80%
In the states you go to a Starbucks your 3ds connects to the net automatically. So you connect without even knowing it!
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Changing the Media Game at E3
There could be a lot of good potential out of this too. There's no doubt a show coming out would have them compared to Sony and Microsoft and they really don't want to be compared to Sony and Microsoft anymore. So much less of the console war garbage of "how will you compete with A from Sony and how will you compete with B from Microsoft" and more focus on all of the games. I really DON"T want people to talk about if the WIiu is next gen or not for three weeks when it doesn't loving matter because the games are awesome and that whole "next gen" thing is just loving marketing buzzwords like "hardcore" that all the drones have a pavlovian response to!
The other possiblity is if the other two consoles just try to rip eachother apart but neither one gets out of it with much success nintendo may come out more ahead then we've bargained. But who knows that's a big if!
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Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Changing the Media Game at E3
I don't think the mainstream watches public these, it's the press. And the press are still being catered to. I do wonder if potential stock investors will back Nintendo if they don't have the hype from a show.
They've had to appeal to too many people with these, the fans, the press, the stock investors, and the general public. And they've gotten boring. I'm fine with a fancast and then footage from gaming press about the games just like we had a week or so ago. And I don't need to know the whole year anymore, just what's coming out in the next few months.
I feel it does say one thing though. Nintendo is doing their own thing with the Wiiu and 3ds and they have their own goals with those systems. They are NOT competing with Sony and Microsoft this gen pretty much just like last gen. The Wiiu will be just like 3ds and get lots of 1st party games and then probably a lot of the Japanese third party support and hopefully we'll see that support make it to the west because their affordable consoles are a better venue for it these days!
I'm just glad they're still around and I'm sure they'll be fine!
Re: Nintendo Won't Be Holding A Large-Scale Press Conference At E3 This Year
Thing is E3 doesn't really do much for the mainstream wow factor except for a headline or two. If I see the games and they advertise to get this system off the ground ill be happy!
Re: Nintendo Won't Be Holding A Large-Scale Press Conference At E3 This Year
Nintendo doing their own thing like always looks like the nintendo directs are the announcements and besides another ND at e3 its going to be about all the games we've already heard about. Looks like they aren't going to compete with the sony microsoft hype train, that's not their thing anymore. With 3ds it doesn't matter but wiiu? I dunno i dont even watch that stuff, i dont care about ceo conferences they're too officey. So for me nintendo direct is all i need.
Re: Satoru Iwata Taking Over CEO Role of Nintendo of America
Now he can kick ass and take names in smash brothers "directly!"
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U's Identity Crisis
Yeah, Wiiu! It's a bit better than the Wii! Look at this guy, he says it's different it's gotta be! Not really a good marketing campaign, lol! It's like they're admitting defeat almost! Like "I know this console looks like poo but it's actually kinda cool!"
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U's Identity Crisis
The Wiiu add campaign is meh! They really don't inspire hype for the system but perhaps that add campaign isn't going to start until there's first party games to sell the system and not just a sidescroller that's a lot like the one everyone has on Wii!
They kinda lied about what the wii remote could do in the add campaign of the last console and perhaps wanting to avoid that this time has caused for a lot more boring adds? Who knows!
Re: Interview: Marc Franklin - Nintendo of America
@banacheck I'm fairly certain game budgets will go up, they have every gen! UNLESS they make games on more affordable budgets, which is entirely possible. It isn't only graphics but everything you've mentioned, better AI, better animations, more characters on screen, would factor into cost as well. But I'm speaking of that "next gen" look! The look they try to go for to "warrant" the purchase of the console and make a case for why you need it, is going to be expensive. That is if they go with that strategy this time and seeing how things are in the industry I think they'll sell these consoles more as an evolution than a leap. The features are going to be more important. I'm comparing the cap for what they're willing to spend on a video game budget to the cap on budgets for PORTABLES that, in my view, prevent the PSVITA from doing much that really outperforms the 3ds.
My point is graphical updates use to make the last gen look inferior. They just don't anymore. Graphics will continue to get better but I don't think it's any big deal and you just don't need a massive gaming tower to get good graphics anymore. Graphics are becoming a moot point and the leap feels less and less every gen. They could even make a good uncharted game on a 3ds if they wanted believe it or not!
My point was analysing that the screens are smaller so we're seeing a plateau a gen behind. We're seeing that the graphics are good on PSVITA, but it isn't a deal breaker for the 3ds by any means. I think we're finally going to see the same thing happen with the consoles this gen. Graphics will be noticeably better, but probably won't be a deal breaker either way. Plus, devs are going to rethink how they make games so we'll probably see lest focus on making those "special effects reels" they're calling games to warrant the console.
For me personally, I think it's going to be open world games that we'll see the biggest facelift. Those seem to be the games that always start to look dated earliest for me.
Re: Rumour: Take-Two To Reveal Next-Gen Versions of Grand Theft Auto V At Investor Call
Yes I want it for Wiiu! If we got this and Metal Gear I'd be thrilled! Anything being ported up to PS4/720 that also don't have an install base should be ported to Wiiu as well! There's no excuse! Unfortunately, it's probably likely that Nintendo is going to miss this one!
Re: Interview: Marc Franklin - Nintendo of America
I think the portable market could be kind of a window into what's to come with the consoles. I, personally, began to feel we hit a point the graphical difference became so small on portables it doesn't even matter. What I mean is there was a pretty noticeable leap between DS and PSP and Wii and PS3. Now with 3ds to VIta, yeah there's a difference between Uncharted and Mario 3d land and Resident Evil... but does anyone really actually CARE at this point. And I think we hit this point where it would cost too much money to make a "Next Gen" Vita game that would "prove" 3ds to be truly inferior tech. Now you can compare this gen of portables to Wii and PS3, true, but smaller screens are part of the reason the difference is less stark on 3ds and PSvita.
Now Wiiu and PS4 and 720 are on bigger screens, but I think this is the gen where we really see it become almost a pointless endeavour especially now that everyone is in HD and in order to fully use the PS4 hardware means a more expensive budget on a console with no initial install base, so it won't get that initial wow factor for several years. Like Vita it may become too expensive for 720 or PS4 developers to throw the money in to really set themselves apart from Wiiu games. Plus we aren't factoring in that many of the Graphics Whores on consoles are suddenly realizing there's this thing called a PC and are going to that for their graphics fix now.
I don't know, I think we know what we're getting with Wiiu, HD nintendo. I think there's much more a question mark with new Xbox and Playstation than people would like you to believe. The multiplats aren't going to matter anymore imo, because in a few years they're going to be on every damn device out there from a PC to a phone.
Wooo! That was a long rant! I should end it with a "But that's just my opinion! I could be wrong!" haha!
I guess my final point that brings everything home is this. Will Uncharted 5 make Mario Galaxy 3 look any less fantastic. No, not really. Like Golden Abyss and 3d Land, at the end of the day the experience we'll probably feel pretty comparable. Long way to say that I guess.