AtomicToaster

I agree with yah that they probably should have kept Wii running longer. But I think the micro console idea is rather meh and confusing. Plus how much more micro does it need to get when you're already the Wii or Wiiu? The darn controller is almost biger than the console! Haha!

Yeah, but then people would argue like they did with the DS that they need to kill it off so that people buy the new console. I think it would be even more confusing to consumers. They're like Sony. They don't need a third platform (or a fourth in Sony's case), they just need to focus on making the two they have more successful!

I think it's lame they are killing off the Wii so early, though. They could have kept that thing around for a few more years while the customers transitioned to Wii. But like I said, then people would argue that the Wiiu's worst enemy was the Wii!

Is there an XL version yet?

I think this is why Nintendo comes out with dual screens handhelds and crazy controllers. Tougher to rip them off.

That excuse would work if platinum didn't want to do star fox, and sega wouldn't do another fzero.

That's why I don't get all the Wiiu hate! WIth everything else the competition is doing wrong the machine that's primarily about games is getting all the hate, lol! Okaaaayyyyy!

That Digital Foundry article smells of BS. For one the other versions look almost unplayable due to the ridiculous amount of screen tearing. For two the Wiiu version looks BETTER than the other versions when you look at the screens. For three most of the frame rate dips seem like they're in cutscenes. For four, this game shouldn't need a install to work, period!

I thought it was great, and the demo helps create hype when the reviewers try to deflate hype for the game by saying it doesn't work which is simply NOT the case!

@MadAussieBloke Exactly and its lowest sales were after the Ps4 price announcement.

I agree about the music being random, but the music is still cool.

This game is awesome. Wasn't wild about it at first but it grows on you once you get how the patterns work.

I highly doubt Nintendo owners look at a box and say that's not irst party so it's a no buy! All we get is excuses friom third parties. Ever since non gaming companies entered the console biz it's been rigged this way.

That's why Im considering not bothering with another console this gen Im mostly sticking with Wiiu and if I gotta have it then Pc.

@Boxmonkey Probably because many other people wouldn't buy another console of they could have mario and gta on one console so deals are made to ensure that doesn't happen and if we do get major support the pubs are instructed to remove on major feature in the Wiiu version. Seems like a rigged market more than anything because when it doesnt play out like this the third parties do fine.

Prolly going wiiu only unless ps4 or xbone just look incredible in a couple years. But there's plenty of content on wiiu.

It's bad but relaunching with new hardware isn't the answer and could hurt consumer perception as in "Will they stay the course with this console or duck out?" No, they need to make the Wiiu sell and stay the course.

@MasterGraveheart Nor have time or want to, which is in my case. The devs are the #######s for not supporting Nintendos systems!

@SetupDisk I think a pokemon mmo on Wiiu where it's a lot like the regular game but with tons of trainers on screen you can compete with, now that'd move systems!

Ill still get it because i was getting this for single player but really not happy and I know even though I buy it on Wiiu they'll say it didn't sell and not make the next batman game for w
ii. Such garbage!

@TravisTouchdown Exactly it's not rocket science they do it on purpose every scenario even if sales are good on Wiiu they screw the system over!

What a bunch of bull! And when it doesn't sell they'll blame the Wiiu. I'm so sick of this garbage! Makes me just want to buy indie games because this kinda crap is bogus! How is Wiiu not an online system?!?!?

Sucks! Wipeout was just never as good as Fzero gx!

I love marvel and dc can suck it so in that respect this looks great! Best lego game EVER!

Sony's current teams are lucky if they stay open they cant be outbidding Nintendo for Atlus! Here's hoping they get em! All the more studios we get the better I say!

Looks great! I'll buy that!

The miiverse turned out a lot better than an achievement system with the ability to show off your own accomplishments via picture and not simply grinding through terrible games to improve your score!

This is bull! Just saying!

I don't so much discount new titles over old so much as hate the overall direction the rest of the industry is headed in. And looking back the Nintendo and Sega consoles just seemed a lot more compellig to play than Sony and MS old consoles. When all the extra, dated non gaming features are pealed away, you're left with the games and consoles like N64, Gamecube, and even Wii had some of the best of their generations. I do think you can look at newer games of a similar genre and appreciate the refinements being made. Look at link between worlds, looks phenomenal! Even Mutant mudds improves upon what they could accomplish in the 8 bit gen a great deal!

I try to get people to touch my Wiiu but they sue me for harrasment!

It's a crime not to release it on Wiiu!

Exactly my feelings! The Wiiu lineup rocks!

^This! I dunno man! I'm thinking about just getting an ouya and riding out gameocalypse on that!

Red Steel with the gamepad would be neat.

So they'll make a couple good games in a franchise and then when it sells like hotcakes they'll totally screw it in a focus test group and it'll be a shadow of what it was. Kinda like TV after three seasons you know it's down hill!

@One-Winged-Pit Right? That was weird! Definitelty makes people question funding your products, haha!

I don't care if it's Wiiu exclusive just want em to make it!

Except one game is called Zelda II: The Adventure of Link so I don't the issue in calling the series "Zelda".

I might jump into this series with this one.

They do this in film industry all the time with movies if it exposes people to these games thats awesome.

Yeah but ico and Shadow of colosses aren't zelda. Windwaker hd wipp probably sell really well!

People want them to go mobile because the content on phones just isn't as good as there's but they arent willing to purchase nintendo consoles it's really funny!

That pic should be used for all bad news lol. "Gamepads?"

Its mostly all the same games on there that were featured when I got my phone a year ago. I tjink as of right now the market feels like its actually on a decling ive recently witnessed more ds and 3ds on the train then people gaming on a phone.

Android market is feeling like a bubble to me recently. I dunno I don't see the content on those stores developing and now a lot of it has gone the freemiuim nickle and dime route. Quality is king!

Wiiu is pretty perfect for survival horror, stealth, rts, mmos, rpgs, etc. Devs just aren't in a position where they're going to take too many risks in this economy!

Yeah why do they stop promoting a title after its first month? Ninty doesn't do that. Many people still don't have this game!

It's almost a non issue because it now sounds cheaper just to buy a Japanese Wiiu and import from Japan and download via eshop.... but if you could access all stores from all regions like PS3 can that would be huge!

I get those couple of games took years to get, but they did make it! I'm wondering what the counter argument is that we'd get more games localized from Japan if we were region free. I'd like to see that because I'm thinking it's doubtful we actually would get more games made for States and US.

Other than that, yeah I support it as a consumer. I think it's nice to have the freedom to say you'd like the Japanese version of a game. Or import a game that's never coming over!

As of right now I can see how the argument that fewer games would get localized holds a lot of weight. Had Wii been region free would we have seen Pandora's Tower, Last Story, and Xenoblade make it to the States? I don't know if we would have because the people rallying for the American release might have just imported and never bothered.

I'm also hearing it's far more cost effective to buy a Japanese Wiiu and hit up their eshop anyway. Although you could argue you can hit up the Playstation store from you PSN without a hitch and get it all in one place..... but yeah again we come back to the argument if it's that easy would they even bother releasing in your territory for small releases like the ones above?

Did anybody really doubt this?