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BulbasaurusRex

301. Posted: Sat 25th Sep 2010 08:06 BST

SkullMan wrote:

So another space marines body was laying around the station. That occurrence happened in like every other room.

So then since he's the last body we encounter we assume he's the deleter then? That's dumb.

It's not dumb. It's a simple process of elimination. You already know it's either James or K.G., so once you find James, the thought process simply goes something like, "Here's James's body, so K.G. was the one dumped in lava, meaning James here was the deleter." After that, you can make the connection as to why James died in the lab and later discover some of the clues that were left earlier in the game.

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Prof. Oak: Oh, it only hurts when I sit.
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Prof. Oak: It's only Chansey if Krabby won't let go. Bye, now.
Ash: I don't think I'm going to call him anymore.

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KingBroly

302. Posted: Sat 25th Sep 2010 08:53 BST

They probably should've had Samus mention something about it during the final cutscene. Like 'I still can't figure out who it was' or something to that effect since there were only 2 possibilities left in her mind (Maybe only 1 if you look at the characters page).

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Deviant_Mugen

303. Posted: Sat 25th Sep 2010 10:14 BST

Samus: The Deleter was actually... unmasks James Old man Jenkins James Pierce!
Anthony: James? But why?!
James: I wanted the gold that was hidden in a secret vault on the ship! And it would've been mine, too, if it hadn't been for that meddling bounty hunter and her obnoxious android!

Clear enough for you now, SkullMan?

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SkullMan

304. Posted: Sat 25th Sep 2010 20:31 BST

romulux wrote:

unless you, you know, use process of elimination. then it makes a lot of sense.

don't forget that samus had been tenaciously chasing him into the labs prior to his death and that he went as far as blasting the controls for a bridge to stop her. you know by that point that whoever's in the suit is obviously the deleter, and hey, it turns out to be james. is it really that unreasonable? i thought you said it was obvious he was the deleter from the start, so why are you complaining that it wasn't made clear enough?

Because the game itself never acknowledges it.

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Philip_J_Reed

305. Posted: Sat 25th Sep 2010 21:12 BST

I don't think the game needs to. As explained above, there's only one possibility. It's not a mystery in any sense; if you pay attention to the clues, there is absolutely, positively only one possible solution. The last thing we need is yet another moment where Samus pauses to lengthily explain something to us that we already know.

I actually liked that the game didn't sit us down and walk us through the clues and explain who the deleter was. Why should it? Surely we've all sat through films, or TV shows, or even books that spend far too much time explaining to us something that we've guessed hours ago. It's a frustrating process, and it makes the characters seem like imbeciles for figuring something out long after the audience has moved on. It was a nice bit of narrative restraint in a game that could otherwise have used a lot more of it.

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306. Posted: Sat 25th Sep 2010 21:15 BST

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/...

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Faildude

307. Posted: Sat 25th Sep 2010 21:19 BST

It's an awful review.
That's all.

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SkullMan

308. Posted: Sat 25th Sep 2010 22:52 BST

I love that guy's reviews they always make me laugh. Best review ever because what he's saying is funny but it's also spot on. I like he to gets angry about the deleter storyline being completely dropped. And Samus' terrible voice acting and the terrible dialogue. Her freezing up during the boss fight with Ridley after she's fought and defeated him a gazillion times. I can help but feel the Japanese developers forced their skewed perceptions of females onto Samus with her almost appearing to be a little helpless girl with daddy issues and just wanting to be loved, and hurt the series. This isn't Final Fantasy, it's Metroid.

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MysteriousVoice

309. Posted: Sat 25th Sep 2010 23:08 BST

Its just like AVGN reviews, hilarious, and not to be taken seriously.

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SkullMan

310. Posted: Sat 25th Sep 2010 23:30 BST

MysteriousVoice wrote:

Its just like AVGN reviews, hilarious, and not to be taken seriously.

I think you misinterpret these reviews. The funny thing is is that they are to be taken seriously by pointing out legitimate faults with games and but in a very funny ranting raving manner. They take what we all feel about the games and just rip on it and present it in a way that makes them really funny. But in the end they are still real reviews.

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Philip_J_Reed

311. Posted: Sun 26th Sep 2010 00:04 BST

When your primary concern is making people laugh, you're a humorist.

When your primary concern is evaluating the positive and negative aspects of a piece of work, you're a reviewer.

Yahtzee is a humorist. And he makes no secret of that. That's not to say that he can't make legitimate points along the way (he does), but when he himself says within one of his videos that he's intentionally going to belittle a game rather than admit it's good because that's what his viewers prefer (see the Bioshock episode), he's kind of sacrificing the right to be thought of as a serious reviewer.

Reviewers don't go into games looking for reasons to hate them, but, by his own admission, that's exactly what Yahtzee does. Because it's funnier. Not because it leads to a sounder review.

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312. Posted: Sun 26th Sep 2010 00:31 BST

SkullMan wrote:

I love that guy's reviews they always make me laugh. Best review ever because what he's saying is funny but it's also spot on. I like he to gets angry about the deleter storyline being completely dropped. And Samus' terrible voice acting and the terrible dialogue. Her freezing up during the boss fight with Ridley after she's fought and defeated him a gazillion times. I can help but feel the Japanese developers forced their skewed perceptions of females onto Samus with her almost appearing to be a little helpless girl with daddy issues and just wanting to be loved, and hurt the series. This isn't Final Fantasy, it's Metroid.

Terrible dialogue, yes, but Samus's voice acting was pretty good for the internal monologues of a loner. For the last time, Samus froze up upon finding Ridley not just because of their history but because he was supposed to finally be dead.

Ash: Professor Oak, how's your Bulbasaur?
Prof. Oak: Oh, it only hurts when I sit.
...
Prof. Oak: It's only Chansey if Krabby won't let go. Bye, now.
Ash: I don't think I'm going to call him anymore.

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pixelman

313. Posted: Sun 26th Sep 2010 00:45 BST

Chicken Brutus wrote:

It was a nice bit of narrative restraint in a game that could otherwise have used a lot more of it.

I agree with this so much. I loved Samus's narrative most of the time, but there were many times when she really should've just kept quiet. For instance, when Adam called her an outsider, it would've been much more effective if she said little or nothing about it. I don't need her to tell me that it's a cold statement, and her "pierced my heart" line simply made me cringe and ruined the mood.

It was this montage of design flaws that brought the game down for me. The post game locked doors, the unnecessary and occasionally badly-written dialog... Gah. Annoying.

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314. Posted: Sun 26th Sep 2010 02:15 BST

its worth noting that Samus has only defeated Ridley twice at the time Other M takes place. and he murdered her family.

also, during my 2nd playthrough (during the epilogue) I checked out the "Story" section of the menu, and the little bit about K.G.'s mysterious unknown whereabouts is a nice implication of the Deleter's identity. not that I care who the Deleter is. it was a pretty pointless plot thread IMO.

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315. Posted: Sun 26th Sep 2010 02:22 BST

Ridley was the little mouse thing. Anybody else figure that out? A huh huh huh. :|

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316. Posted: Sun 26th Sep 2010 02:37 BST

hahaha. that was hilarious. i could not disagree more, but hilarious nonetheless.

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317. Posted: Mon 27th Sep 2010 05:16 BST

pixelman wrote:

Do you seriously think I'd help a man who forgets the name of Bergman, a name you absolutely can't forget if you're a fan of Casablanca, and therefore must be grouped with all non-fans who are my mortal enemies?

...sorry, i'm done now.

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I'm actually really disappointed with Other M, in retrospect. I think it's mainly because you never have an entirely free reign to explore in the game, contrary to Super Metroid. The locked doors really are annoying me and are making me not want to bother beating it 100%. And when I think about it, acquiring "new" weapons/suits/etc. was pretty unsatisfactory compared to Super Metroid, as there was absolutely no sense of discovery or accomplishment: "Samus, you're about to die again. Use your Ice Beam!"

I was also pretty disappointed with the final bosses. I didn't feel any nostalgia for Metroid Queen (having not played Metroid 2), the MB fight was crazy lame, and well, the Space Octopus just felt tacked on.

I honestly had the most fun playing the game during the middle, when I wasn't really powerful, the areas were unfamiliar, and the story was still mysterious.

I'm still going to try to beat it 100%, and I'll probably replay the game, but words cannot describe how annoyed I am with the post-game locked doors. It's an absolutely idiotic design choice. >.<

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318. Posted: Tue 28th Sep 2010 08:49 BST

lockelocke wrote:

its worth noting that Samus has only defeated Ridley twice at the time Other M takes place.

...but now he's dead for good, right?

Wow. That summed up the game better than anything I've seen AND it ties into my Other M question:

Why DOES Adam Malkovich sacrifice himself in Sector 0? Samus blows stuff up all the time and she never goes down with the ship. Is there something else in there he didn't want her to see? Even stranger than Adam not letting you enter Sector 0 is after it's destroyed MB is still terrorizing the Research Facility. Isn't that why you were going to Sector 0 in the first place? To kill the new Mother Brain who we now know to be linked to Melissa? It seems like the only reason Samus goes to Sector 0 is to watch Malkovich die in an unnecessary fireball of glory.

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lockelocke

319. Posted: Tue 28th Sep 2010 08:53 BST

@Gamesake
by the way, I was totally wrong. I had no idea the Prime series takes place BEFORE the events of Super Metroid. So, yeah. Samus has totally killed Ridley like a million times.

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KingBroly

320. Posted: Tue 28th Sep 2010 09:03 BST

Actually, the Prime games describe in great length and detail that Ridley didn't die in Metroid, Metroid Prime, and the opening of 3. The end of 3 is up for debate, but...eh. As of Other M, this is the first game to say flat out "Ridley is dead."

Adam sacrifices himself because he thinks MB and unfreezable Metroids are inside Sector 0 (And at that point, so do you and Samus). It's only until AFTER THE FACT that you find out that MB was not in Sector 0. Unfreezable Metroids were definitely there, but not MB, who is in actuality Melissa. It's supposed to be tragic and somewhat ironic, especially if you look at Metroid Fusion.

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