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Shrapmo

41. Posted:

Dust is something you earn. You can't expect to get dust unless you give dust in return. Swifers get the dust off nicely.

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ShadJV

42. Posted:

I think both sides have valid points. I mean, if someone is worried and feels the system is having a slow start, that's their opinion and nothing is wrong with that. Personally, after suffering the 3DS launch, I don't think the Wii U is doing so bad. After playing Nintendoland, I feel that is easily a killer app for some people (I will be playing this title, both on my own and at parties, for a long time). Factoring in NSMBU (which may not have been a system seller but seemed to give me some Super Mario World nostalgia), and after recently receiving Zombi U and Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed, I am quite satisfied with the launch lineup. I'll admit that I felt extra features for the system felt limited at launch but, when the features like Netflix were being added starting with a couple days after the system, I felt it is quite likely Nintendo will be surprising us with some updates. Nintendo is holding its cards close this time but I think we'll see new games and features sooner than we expect.

Still, I completely understand why some people might worry. Nintendo still hasn't told us much outside its launch window. And we haven't gotten a new title on the eShop since launch. For anyone who didn't see much that holds their long term interest at launch, the system's bare looking future could look worrisome.

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CM30

43. Posted:

I have to be honest and say that the third party support thing might be more a matter of timing than anything. I mean, when were these new third party games developed? If they were in development a while or before devs really got to figure out the Wii U's system technology, I suspect that the developers thought it would be too risky to try and quickly port the games over. That might change in a few months or so.

There's also the distinct possibility that they see the console as not popular/profitable enough to release games for yet. After all, a brand new and untested games system with only a couple of million buyers just doesn't translate to enough sales to make third party games viable from a business perspective, since they'd have to be good/popular enough to sell the system itself as well as the game.

But I suspect the outlook will change in a few months or so, when not only will Nintendo announce major new titles like 3D Mario, Mario Kart, maybe Zelda, etc but also likely some new third party games and stuff. It's too early to really be pessimistic about anything.

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emarald11

44. Posted:

i have all the game systems, ps3, ps2, ps, xbox, xbox360, wii u, 3ds, ds, dsi, super nintendo and counting. As long as i save up money for the station i can get whatever i want :)

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MAB

45. Posted:

You should see my PS2 mate... The dust and cobwebs have fused with the plastic ;)

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ShadJV

46. Posted:

CM30 wrote:

I have to be honest and say that the third party support thing might be more a matter of timing than anything. I mean, when were these new third party games developed? If they were in development a while or before devs really got to figure out the Wii U's system technology, I suspect that the developers thought it would be too risky to try and quickly port the games over. That might change in a few months or so.

There's also the distinct possibility that they see the console as not popular/profitable enough to release games for yet. After all, a brand new and untested games system with only a couple of million buyers just doesn't translate to enough sales to make third party games viable from a business perspective, since they'd have to be good/popular enough to sell the system itself as well as the game.

But I suspect the outlook will change in a few months or so, when not only will Nintendo announce major new titles like 3D Mario, Mario Kart, maybe Zelda, etc but also likely some new third party games and stuff. It's too early to really be pessimistic about anything.

I think the biggest reason for the "lack of third party support" is simply that the system was still in development, so the dev kits were changing. It's hard enough to develop launch titles because of these conditions, but factoring that into development of a game that also is currently in development? That's the reason we got ports for existing games, those games were already finalized so they only had to worry about the changing hardware while porting. Now that the system is out is when we can see more third party support.

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Mk_II

47. Posted:

Dont forget that developing a HD game from scratch is not cheap. No publisher is going to invest millions in a new title for a console that could fail to make it big. They wait and see until the userbase / market is big enough

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48. Posted:

My WiiU is all dusty too, I've been playing it everyday since I got it ( I'm posting this from the browser even) It just seems to atract tons of dust :I

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AlexSays

49. Posted:

Well the beginning of every console is fairly slow. I certainly didn't expect Nintendo's newest console to be any different, given the small amount of games we got last console.

Hey at least you get to finally play multiplats from last gen, there's something..

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skywake

50. Posted:

Sean_Aaron wrote:

RJB wrote:

So my point is already I'm questioning the total lack of games & features on the Wii U, even going back to the Wii it feels like there's far more to do and far more channels to look at than on the Wii U

Well I have to say I disagree. You seem to forget that the Wii had almost no download content for well over a year. I got mine in October 2007 and WiiWare didn't launch until the beginning of 2008 (if I'm remembering correctly). And in case you've forgotten we're in the middle of a global economic crisis and people on the whole have never been big buyers of gaming consoles in the UK.

The Wii did have some decent VC support early on from what I can remember but you are right, WiiWare was early 2008.

Looking back if I remember correctly at this point in the Wii's life I had Wii Sports, Wii Play and Twilight Princess. Currently on the Wii U I have Assassin's Creed 3, Nintendo Land, New SMB U, Little Inferno and Nano Assault Neo. Not only that but right now I could walk in the other room and download something like Zombi U or Mass Effect 3 and be playing it within an hour or so. The best outside of what I had the Wii could offer at this point was what, Red Steel and WarioWare? The Zelda trump card aside it really is night and day.

That said Nintendo are holding their cards close to their chest. At this point in the Wii's life we knew about new Mario and Metroid as well as Paper Mario and maybe a couple of others including some that were canned or never saw the light of day till late 2009 or so. All we know for the Wii U is Pikmin 3 and that a Smash Bros is in the works. It doesn't give us much hope sure but that's just how Nintendo has decided to play it after the disastrous 3DS launch.

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luminalace

51. Posted:

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@luminalace

I hope your right about Nintendo holding some big releases back, but I have to disagree about the "strong" 3rd party support, the only third party support seems to be for year old games, while upcoming new games like (for example) Devil May Cry & Tomb Raider don't appear to be heading to Wii U anytime soon if at all, this is not a good sign IMO, it's easy to port over year old games, but if Nintendo are really going to get proper third party support they neeed to be getting more new games released at the same time as other consoles like they have managed to do with Assassins Creed III.

I think I'm just disappointed that we've not had a 3D Mario, Mario Kart, Paper Mario, Luigi's Mansion, Donkey Kong Country, Punch-Out!!, Zelda etc. or anything like these games released at launch (or even announced), these are the sort of games I want on the Wii U then I'll be far happier.

Personally I don't think Nintendo is ever going to be about third party support, I've always bought Nintendo consoles because of the many exclusive franchises, this has always been Nintendo's biggest strength by far.

To be honest, I am doubtful if Nintendo will get strong 3rd party support but as far as launch goes, yes I think it's a good start. Black Ops 2 and Assassins Creed 3 are basically the biggest 3rd party games on the other consoles right now. Arkham City & Mass Effect 3 while both around 6 months old are highly regarded as far as reviews are concerned. Personally I would have loved Far Cry 3 but apart from that there isn't much else I would have gotten on my PS3 had the Wii u not launched when it did.

As for the Nintendo games you mentioned, on A Nintendo centric site like NL, I am sure there are many games that people would have liked to have had launch with the Wii U but in reality we were never going to get more than 1 or 2 of those games at any one time. It was meant to be Pikmin 3 and NSMB U but we only got one because reportedly Nintendo were happy enough with the 3rd party support to delay the former.

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Scollurio

52. Posted:

But just imagine if Pikmin 3 WAS a launch title. Tha bomb!

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Chrono_Cross

53. Posted:

Scollurio wrote:

But just imagine if Pikmin 3 WAS a launch title. Tha bomb!

That still wouldn't move consoles.

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luminalace

54. Posted:

Scollurio wrote:

But just imagine if Pikmin 3 WAS a launch title. Tha bomb!

I would have preferred a new Zelda or Metroid but yeah it would have been cool.

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MarioKenny1992

55. Posted:

personally, I'm loving my Wii U so far, I love NSMBU and Miiverse, but I REALLY need to play Nintendo Land one of these days (blame NSMBU lol)

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AlexSays

56. Posted:

CactusJackson wrote:

Scollurio wrote:

But just imagine if Pikmin 3 WAS a launch title. Tha bomb!

That still wouldn't move consoles.

This is correct. Pikmin 3 is a game you release when there's already a large user base.

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brooks83

57. Posted:

skywake wrote:

That said Nintendo are holding their cards close to their chest. At this point in the Wii's life we knew about new Mario and Metroid as well as Paper Mario and maybe a couple of others including some that were canned or never saw the light of day till late 2009 or so. All we know for the Wii U is Pikmin 3 and that a Smash Bros is in the works. It doesn't give us much hope sure but that's just how Nintendo has decided to play it after the disastrous 3DS launch.

This may be their new strategy, but it's one of the biggest reasons I am holding off on buying a Wii U. I don't care for the secrecy. I'm not too concerned about what retail first-party games are in the pipeline, as I have some idea of what to expect there (of course third party support is still up in the air). But their silence regarding the VC is deafening. It was the main reason I bought a Wii to be honest, and I'd like to know what their plans are with it on the Wii U. Will VC games ever play on the Wii U menu or is Wii Mode here to stay? Will the VC games from the Wii Shop see the light of day in the eShop, or will they continue to be segregated, only to eventually dissapear forever? Unanswered questions like these make me very cautious about plunking down $350.

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Sean_Aaron

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I'm not too fussed about third party support from big publishers as I've come to expect little from them except new iterations of franchises I have no interest in (or I would be one of these multi platform gamers). Small indies are the people I'm looking to for new and interesting content on the Wii U (Nintendo is a given), so I'm quite encouraged by the praise for the eShop from that corner and hope that we'll continue to see new stuff there.

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MAB

59. Posted:

Yeah I'm also patiently waiting for VC but between ZombiU, AC3, BLOPS2 and Sonic Racing it's fair to say I've got enough good stuff to keep me going for the next few months before the Monster Hunt begins ;) and there's plenty of great games out at the moment I would happily plonk down cash for but won't just to save myself from having a backlog pile of shame ;)

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skywake

60. Posted:

@brooks83
We know more about the VC than you seem to be aware of. There will be a Wii U VC, it will have GamePad support, it will be on the eShop, it won't be in Wii Mode and it will include GameCube support. All of these things have been confirmed or at least very, very strongly hinted at by big Nintendo execs.

What's not confirmed is what titles will be available, what the prices will be, what consoles will be supported and whether or not Wii VC titles will transfer over. We also don't know exactly how they will play in terms of software like save states or other tiny details. All we know is that it's a thing really.

source: http://youtu.be/e6q8sNhm4uM?t=11m34s (stay with it for a bit, it clearly shows that Wii U VC is a thing)

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