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As far as that Zelda tech demo goes....I'm still baffled that Nintendo is opting for traditional controls for link....I mean MotionPlus controls for Skyward sword look like a giant leap forward in terms of gameplay and immersion, yet this isn't the case with Zelda Wii U.

I'm not baffled. Nintendo introduced motion controls because they're different, not because they're better. It's been five years and motion controls aren't new anymore. Nintendo knows they need another hook. Enter the Wii U controller.

@yoyogamer That looked perfect for Silent Scope.

In this case though, motion controls are better. You can't have the accurate movement motion control offers on a traditional controller. And since a lot of people are saying SS could be the best 3D Zelda yet, I think there is a high chance motion controls will be an option for this game.

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guys just think of the zelda demo like the realistic(ish) gamecube zelda demo back before wind waker

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WaveBoy wrote:

As far as that Zelda tech demo goes....I'm still baffled that Nintendo is opting for traditional controls for link....I mean MotionPlus controls for Skyward sword look like a giant leap forward in terms of gameplay and immersion, yet this isn't the case with Zelda Wii U.

The Zelda Tech demo isn't a game. It uses the Wii U controller but all it's doing is rendering a scene and giving you lighting and camera controls. That's it. They aren't forced to use the Wii U controller if they don't want to.

Also, the Wii U controller does have a pointer. Look at the videos online showing the Shield demo in particular. It can use a pointer, it has a gyro and motion sensors. It's a Classic Controller with Wii Motion Plus and a 6" touch screen. They COULD use motion plus in a different sort of way with the Wii U controller. Now I agree that it wouldn't be anywhere near like Skyward Sword if they used the Wii U (having your hands together is restrictive) but..... there are options.

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I better see an Animal Crossing on Wii U. And some hardcore Final Fantasy.

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I better see an Animal Crossing on Wii U. And some hardcore Final Fantasy.

Amen for FF!

And as for Animal Crossing, I wish they would evolve a little more on the series. Instead of recycling old stuff. Variation between titles is subtle.
Don't get me wrong I still want Animal Crossing to be, well, Animal Crossing. I don't want the identity stripped, just evolved to make it more engaging and, have even greater online experiences and customization for your personal space as well.
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Monster Hunter 4. Dual analogs + touch screen may be the best thing that could happen to the series in terms of playability.

I'd love to see some Dreamcast game remakes/sequels. The VMU screen was underutilised for sure, but some Dreamcast games showed the potential of having your own screen. I think multiplayer arcade-type games would play really well on the Wii U too. Oh, and Dokapon Journey... the private screen gives you even more chances to screw your friends over. :D

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Yes to everything after what was said with Gamelord.

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I better see an Animal Crossing on Wii U. And some hardcore Final Fantasy.

I wouldnt mind a new Hardcore FF but id rather get a new chrono game or a new IP.

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I want 'ToeJam and Earl At The Spring Olympic Games', or it's no dice.

On a more serious note, they clearly are nowhere near ready to actually show anything, but what can they do, with E3 happening? Better a pic of the console, a quick look at the pad, and some PS360 footage of games you'll be able to play, than nothing.

The ideal line-up is the usual flagship stuff - Mario, Zelda, Metroid, along with the Modern Warfare style games, playable as flashy as they are on the PS360. Giving a best of both worlds situation, which Nintendo can enjoy until the next gen Sonysoft consoles arrive in 2014ish.

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F-Zero, Pokemon, and a real Super Mario 64 successor, or its no dice.

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This has pretty much sold me on usability of the controller and how the screen can be used in effective ways.

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You know what game would be absolutely perfect for Wii-U?

Kingdom Hearts 3.

Think about it: no longer would you have to try to avoid enemies while scrolling through magic and items. You'd have all those actions available on the controller's touch screen. Want to cast fire or hear yourself? Forget about having to scroll, just tap.

That and I want to see the KH saga end without buying a PlayStation.

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F-Zero, Pokemon, and a real Super Mario 64 successor, or its no dice.

So if the system comes out with an innovative 3d mario platformer that isn't a direct sequel to mario 64 you won't be interested?

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54. Posted:

yoyogamer wrote:

Gamesake wrote:

WaveBoy wrote:

As far as that Zelda tech demo goes....I'm still baffled that Nintendo is opting for traditional controls for link....I mean MotionPlus controls for Skyward sword look like a giant leap forward in terms of gameplay and immersion, yet this isn't the case with Zelda Wii U.

I'm not baffled. Nintendo introduced motion controls because they're different, not because they're better. It's been five years and motion controls aren't new anymore. Nintendo knows they need another hook. Enter the Wii U controller.
@yoyogamer That looked perfect for Silent Scope.

In this case though, motion controls are better. You can't have the accurate movement motion control offers on a traditional controller. And since a lot of people are saying SS could be the best 3D Zelda yet, I think there is a high chance motion controls will be an option for this game.

This. Motion Controls truly are better, you've got to be out of your mind to say that dual analog is superior. We all have our tastes and opinions, but seriously...I wont even bother with first or 3rd person Wii U titles if they don't have the Wii remote/Nunchuck as an alternative control option.

But they most likely will have that option seeing as how NIntendo will only be rocking 1 Wii U Tablet per console, as it seems right now...Or maybe 2 at the most. Plus E3 demonstrated the wii remotes being used with the Wii U, so there's a huge giant chance here.

Anyways, so whenever the inevitable new Zelda Wii U is released, there's no way you could use the Wii Tablet as a sword, haha even if you could it would be completely akward, unintuitive and ridiculous swiping a big square around.lol Skyward Sword will be thee' showcase for MotionControls, i'd have a heart attack if I had to settle for traditional controls on the U tablet....Meaning pressing a button to swing Links sword. I'm sure Nintendo wants to push the idea of using the U tablet for Zelda or any of their big titles considering it's the main controller here. I don't care how creative they get with the controller's screen, it can't replicate the feeling of holding a sword 1:1, or maybe it can....But it wouldn't obviously feel like you were holding one, let alone it's one single controller and it's massive. You'd be using two hands, holding onto a massive square haha....At least it would make a decent two handed shield. :p

I'll be using the Wii Remote Plus/Nunchuck for the Wii U's Zelda....Yup, 3 years later.lol

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55. Posted:

WaveBoy wrote:

yoyogamer wrote:

Gamesake wrote:

WaveBoy wrote:

As far as that Zelda tech demo goes....I'm still baffled that Nintendo is opting for traditional controls for link....I mean MotionPlus controls for Skyward sword look like a giant leap forward in terms of gameplay and immersion, yet this isn't the case with Zelda Wii U.

I'm not baffled. Nintendo introduced motion controls because they're different, not because they're better. It's been five years and motion controls aren't new anymore. Nintendo knows they need another hook. Enter the Wii U controller.
@yoyogamer That looked perfect for Silent Scope.

In this case though, motion controls are better. You can't have the accurate movement motion control offers on a traditional controller. And since a lot of people are saying SS could be the best 3D Zelda yet, I think there is a high chance motion controls will be an option for this game.

This. Motion Controls truly are better, you've got to be out of your mind to say that dual analog is superior. We all have our tastes and opinions, but seriously...I wont even bother with first or 3rd person Wii U titles if they don't have the Wii remote/Nunchuck as an alternative control option.

But they most likely will have that option seeing as how NIntendo will only be rocking 1 Wii U Tablet per console, as it seems right now...Or maybe 2 at the most. Plus E3 demonstrated the wii remotes being used with the Wii U, so there's a huge giant chance here.

Anyways, so whenever the inevitable new Zelda Wii U is released, there's no way you could use the Wii Tablet as a sword, haha even if you could it would be completely akward, unintuitive and ridiculous swiping a big square around.lol Skyward Sword will be thee' showcase for MotionControls, i'd have a heart attack if I had to settle for traditional controls on the U tablet....Meaning pressing a button to swing Links sword. I'm sure Nintendo wants to push the idea of using the U tablet for Zelda or any of their big titles considering it's the main controller here. I don't care how creative they get with the controller's screen, it can't replicate the feeling of holding a sword 1:1, or maybe it can....But it wouldn't obviously feel like you were holding one, let alone it's one single controller and it's massive. You'd be using two hands, holding onto a massive square haha....At least it would make a decent two handed shield. :p

I'll be using the Wii Remote Plus/Nunchuck for the Wii U's Zelda....Yup, 3 years later.lol

I think it would be best to use both controllers together. Imagine this. The new Zelda has the same controls as Skyward Sword. Propped up on the table the touchscreen sits, displaying Link's inventory. The new controller has an IR sensor in it, so if you want to change weapons, point the wii remote at the tablet and make your selectoin without pausing the game. In the end, you get motion control, beautiful HD graphics, and an uncluttered TV screen.

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Aliens isn't confirmed yet for Wii U. What are the chances it will come? IDK, but I hope it does. I'd imagine movie tie-ins would have a better chance with the Wii U audience. I'm honestly more excited for Metro and Killer Freaks (I'm burnt out on 20+ year old movies). I know a few people who would love to play more Aliens though.

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Motion Controls truly are better, you've got to be out of your mind to say that dual analog is superior. We all have our tastes and opinions, but seriously...I wont even bother with first or 3rd person Wii U titles if they don't have the Wii remote/Nunchuck as an alternative control option.

Motion controls really compliment some genres to make it more fun, but they haven't done anything yet that can't be done with just a classic controller. Racing and fighting games have even suffered when played with motion controls. The classic style controller is still more versatile overall. The Wiimote doesn't hold up on it's own.

@yoyogamer That Zelda setup sounds like more hassle than it's worth.

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I don't think that's possible. Unless you had some really, really clever trickery the Wii Remote wouldn't know the difference between the Wii U controller and the TV screen. They could have that sort of setup but with the second screen being not as interactive. Maybe it could simply display your heart meter, the items you're currently carrying and a map. I personally think it'd be better to use either the Wii Remote or Wii U controller exclusively or, and this is probably the better idea, use the Wii Remote and give the Wii U controller to a second person.

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Well, the Wii U controller is capable of all the things the Wii Remote with Motion Plus is. It has motion controls, it has IR, it has a gyro, it has a D-Pad and buttons. It's a Wii Remote with Motion Plus strapped to the back of a Classic Controller with Mic and Camera added and a 6" touchscreen. Still, I don't see it being used like the Wii Remote is in Skyward Sword. It'd just be too awkward....................

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I don't think that's possible. Unless you had some really, really clever trickery the Wii Remote wouldn't know the difference between the Wii U controller and the TV screen. They could have that sort of setup but with the second screen being not as interactive. Maybe it could simply display your heart meter, the items you're currently carrying and a map. I personally think it'd be better to use either the Wii Remote or Wii U controller exclusively or, and this is probably the better idea, use the Wii Remote and give the Wii U controller to a second person.

Maybe you could just duck tape the controller to your arm and use it as a shield? I heard that they wanted the next zelda to use both controllers, so I was just thinking of some ideas.

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Just a thread were we can talk future games and possi and put videos to hype the Wii U.

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"I was fine with the way that the wii was completeley lacking in these sorts of games and wish it was staying that way with the wii U"

I get what you mean. It was nice to see that Nintendo was family friendly, and I also aren't very fond of buckets of violence and blood. And the overload of shooters. However, there where quite a lot of games I would have loved to play (including a few strong scifi shooters) but couldn't because I didn't have a xbox360 or PS3. I think a Nintendo console should offer everything. And don't forget: Nintendo stays Nintendo. They will always create the cheery colorful family friendly games that we love. I am sure about it! And who knows, maybe when the shooter/gore-fest type developers settle at Nintendo they change a bit overtime making more games we Nintendo-gamers would love. It could happen!

What can we expect from Nintendo, huh? Well, there will be a new Smash brothers, Pikmin 3 will be shoved to the wii u, a new wii sports is a given, new Mario's are a given (a 2D one and a 3D one), And I guess the most obvious choice for Retro studios is now to follow up DKC returns with a awesome sequell. But I look forward to whatever they create. I also hope that Starfox and FZero will return!

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