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Yeah third party support is more than on Wii, but still not great, and for everything beyond early 2013 it's really dim at best. Like the original poster said, none of the many high profile games of next year have been confirmed for Wii U yet, except maybe Project Cars (which I will play on PC because of racing wheel option). I don't want to piss into anyones pool, I just feel that Nintendo will be behind things again, and I'm not talking about console power, I'm talking about negotiations and making contracts.
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Sorry if this has been said before, I haven't read through all three pages yet, but I think third party games are being skipped because publishers are playing "wait and see" with the Wii U. If the initial batch of third party games sell well, they will make more. Unfortunately, the initial batch were underperforming ports compared to the other HD systems.
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You can't compare sales because it's a new console. Black Ops 2 on the PS3 for example sold something like 5x the number of Wii Us that have been sold. What are we supposed to expect to be able to say "Wii U owners like third party games"? People who don't own a Wii U to start buying Wii U versions of popular games?
Honestly us Nintendo fans are a big reason why 3rd party games don't come to out platform. It's almost unprecedented for a multi platfrom game to sell best on a Nintendo console. While some will lament that Call of Duty is crap, just look at the sales of the game on Wii U compared to the PS3/360. The attachment rate is meant to be less than 5% on Wii U while it's closer to 20% on the other consoles.
I don't know where you got that stat from but... VG Chartz, reliable or not, says a bit of a different story for Black Ops.
8.5% of Wii U owners have it
12.5% of 360 owners have it
10.4% of PS3 owners have it
Now I don't know about you but I think that's not that bad for a new console. It's not like Black Ops is the sort of game people will say "I need to get a Wii U for this". I would expect that people likely to be into Black Ops already owned a PS3/360/PC.. and yet it's sitting at 8.5% of Wii owners who have it. Early adopters or not that's not damning at all.
Let's just hope developers will look at 3rd party attachment rate, instead of absolute sales. If it wasn't for Nintendo Land I wouldn't have had a single first party game on Wii U. Though seeing how many Wii U's are on the shelf here in the Netherlands, the 3rd party succes can't be too big. Are there any software sales availlable yet?
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You can't compare sales because it's a new console. Black Ops 2 on the PS3 for example sold something like 5x the number of Wii Us that have been sold. What are we supposed to expect to be able to say "Wii U owners like third party games"? People who don't own a Wii U to start buying Wii U versions of popular games?
Honestly us Nintendo fans are a big reason why 3rd party games don't come to out platform. It's almost unprecedented for a multi platfrom game to sell best on a Nintendo console. While some will lament that Call of Duty is crap, just look at the sales of the game on Wii U compared to the PS3/360. The attachment rate is meant to be less than 5% on Wii U while it's closer to 20% on the other consoles.
I don't know where you got that stat from but... VG Chartz, reliable or not, says a bit of a different story for Black Ops.
8.5% of Wii U owners have it
12.5% of 360 owners have it
10.4% of PS3 owners have it
Now I don't know about you but I think that's not that bad for a new console. It's not like Black Ops is the sort of game people will say "I need to get a Wii U for this". I would expect that people likely to be into Black Ops already owned a PS3/360/PC.. and yet it's sitting at 8.5% of Wii owners who have it. Early adopters or not that's not damning at all.
Publishers only care about how many copies they can sell of a game, dude. So yes it does matter that there are 70 million PS3s out there and only 2 million Wii Us. One is a smart investment for a third party AAA budget game. The other is not.
You can't compare sales because it's a new console. Black Ops 2 on the PS3 for example sold something like 5x the number of Wii Us that have been sold. What are we supposed to expect to be able to say "Wii U owners like third party games"? People who don't own a Wii U to start buying Wii U versions of popular games?
Honestly us Nintendo fans are a big reason why 3rd party games don't come to out platform. It's almost unprecedented for a multi platfrom game to sell best on a Nintendo console. While some will lament that Call of Duty is crap, just look at the sales of the game on Wii U compared to the PS3/360. The attachment rate is meant to be less than 5% on Wii U while it's closer to 20% on the other consoles.
I don't know where you got that stat from but... VG Chartz, reliable or not, says a bit of a different story for Black Ops.
8.5% of Wii U owners have it
12.5% of 360 owners have it
10.4% of PS3 owners have it
Now I don't know about you but I think that's not that bad for a new console. It's not like Black Ops is the sort of game people will say "I need to get a Wii U for this". I would expect that people likely to be into Black Ops already owned a PS3/360/PC.. and yet it's sitting at 8.5% of Wii owners who have it. Early adopters or not that's not damning at all.
Publishers only care about how many copies they can sell of a game, dude. So yes it does matter that there are 70 million PS3s out there and only 2 million Wii Us. One is a smart investment for a third party AAA budget game. The other is not.
Of course they cae about the amount of copies sold, but they probably know that when they invest in this platform, new markets will open up for them. For instance, the last Call Of Duty I played was was either 2 or 3. I skipped avery game after those, because my PC was lacking, and I didn't have a PS3 or a 360. Now black ops is out on Wii U I'm having great fun with it. I'll probably pick up the sequel if it comes out on Wii U again. They have created a new market for themselves, wich might not bring in scoops of money now, but will hopefully do so in the future. That's a good investment I guess, even though they wouldn't have done it if Nintendo didn't pay them to port it.
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You can't compare sales because it's a new console. Black Ops 2 on the PS3 for example sold something like 5x the number of Wii Us that have been sold. What are we supposed to expect to be able to say "Wii U owners like third party games"? People who don't own a Wii U to start buying Wii U versions of popular games?
Honestly us Nintendo fans are a big reason why 3rd party games don't come to out platform. It's almost unprecedented for a multi platfrom game to sell best on a Nintendo console. While some will lament that Call of Duty is crap, just look at the sales of the game on Wii U compared to the PS3/360. The attachment rate is meant to be less than 5% on Wii U while it's closer to 20% on the other consoles.
I don't know where you got that stat from but... VG Chartz, reliable or not, says a bit of a different story for Black Ops.
8.5% of Wii U owners have it
12.5% of 360 owners have it
10.4% of PS3 owners have it
Now I don't know about you but I think that's not that bad for a new console. It's not like Black Ops is the sort of game people will say "I need to get a Wii U for this". I would expect that people likely to be into Black Ops already owned a PS3/360/PC.. and yet it's sitting at 8.5% of Wii owners who have it. Early adopters or not that's not damning at all.
Publishers only care about how many copies they can sell of a game, dude. So yes it does matter that there are 70 million PS3s out there and only 2 million Wii Us. One is a smart investment for a third party AAA budget game. The other is not.
For what it's worth, that's still probably enough for Activision to go out and make another COD game on Wii U. They did keep putting them on Wii after all, and that version of the game sold barely anything when compared to the other version out there, even PC.
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I just think it's crazy that ppl are like "It's not from Nintendo, therefore it sucks." I'm actually quite surprised at how well the COD series does on Nintendo platforms.
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There's always a cost to porting something, and Wii U has a very small install base right now so returns aren't guaranteed. I think that's the biggest reason.
Publishers only care about how many copies they can sell of a game, dude. So yes it does matter that there are 70 million PS3s out there and only 2 million Wii Us. One is a smart investment for a third party AAA budget game. The other is not.
I didn't say they didn't. I was just questioning the "20% of 360/PS3 owners but <5% of Wii U owners" statement and the assertion that "Nintendo gamers" don't buy third party content. Truth is whether it's because it's early adopters or not there's pretty much the same level of demand for third party games amongst Wii U owners as there is amongst "core" consoles. I think it's worth squashing the myth that owners of Nintendo consoles only want to play first party content.
It means nothing to the merits of releasing content on the Wii U right now because the install base is tiny anyway. It does however mean that with possibly 6mill units in the wild by the end of the year it could be worth their while sooner rather than later. A fact that would never be true if there was zero interest in third party content on the Wii U as was implied.
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I'm sure it's perfectly possible to play ME3 without any trouble at all.
But you did express amazement as to why people were complaining about ME3 on the WiiU and not AC3.
I just gave you the reason. Though I suspect you already knew the reason right from the beginning and were just faking amazement.
I was kind of hoping for a reason that a well-adjusted human being could come up with.
You can take petty shots all you want, but you're the one burying your head in the sand. You may not think that the ME series' plot is anything special; that's fine. Based on the responses in this thread though, you are clearly in the minority. Accept it and move on.
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