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SCAR392

121. Posted:

BanjoThreeie wrote:

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I'm still waiting for an explanation of how any of these consoles are better than the the other hardware wise... I honestly wouldn't be surprised if these consoles were just as comparable as the 6th gen machines.

http://ca.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_vs._Wii_U_C...

I'm guessing you're looking at the GPU, CPU, and ammount of teraflops section? From what I understand, the Wii U's GPU and CPU act separately from each other(and need to be programmed to work together), while the GPU and CPU are already working in unison inside of the PS4 and Xbox One.

Just look at it this way: The Wii U's CPU cores BY THEMSELVES can create most of what an Xbox 360 can do without harnessing much of the GPGPU at all. The GPGPU can basically create double of whatever that chart says if I understand correctly. Those specs don't say how all the components are interacting with each other.

I could be completely wrong with the specifics of how this stuff works, but I'm 100% sure the Wii U wouldn't even be able to run a game as good looking as X or Mario Kart 8 if it wasn't more capable than what you're obviously basing your thoughts on. X looks basically on par with Final Fantasy 15, so I'd say let the games do the talking.

This is only Wii U's first year, too. They can probably get things looking 20% better on all systems before they're maxed out for this gen.

EDIT: When you look at how Nintendo is getting games to run in 60FPS, at least 720p(I presume 1080p will eventually be norm throughout the gen), and multiple motion controllers with the possibility of 3D, there's ALOT going on. Even how much data and the obviously improved textures and polygon count are enough to come to a reasonable conclusion that Wii U is alot more powerful than 7th gen, and considerably less than other 8th gen systems.

I'd say Wii U is 10-20% less than Xbox One, and 25-30% less than PS4, but in the overall scope of video game history, it's not that much. I don't think Sony can even start to think about understanding the PS4. I'm only worried about what these companies can do with the systems, not overall capability. Nintendo will put tons of good games that will probably match Sony and Microsoft, even with a weaker machine. My point is that it's not as weak as you think, but not as strong as you think I think.

EDIT2: That's also why I think 4K will play a larger role in the long run than people tend to believe. 4K can get all your games looking tremendously better without actually having more on screen. Just look at Monster Hunter Tri vs. 3 Ultimate. They revamped the textures for HD. Now imagine the textures are all there, but there is no HD, it ends up looking obviously better in HD. I think PS4 at the very least will need 4K, otherwise you won't even be able to see the better graphics.

I knew PS4 and Xbox One could do 4K before they even confirmed it. Sony is full of crap when they say it can't run games in 4K. Same thing with BC on both of those consoles. It's all a matter of programming and know how. You can have a fast car, but if you don't know how to shift gears, you ain't gonna get anywhere.

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Lets be REAL here. The Wii U is struggling but at least Nintendo can afford it. They are working hard on it and the U will eventually gain more steam in the upcoming months and 2014. The massive 3rd party support won't come until 2014. Sony and Microsoft are pouring alotta power into the PS4/One. If those consoles struggle for a just a little bit.. it will be a deafenining blow to Sony and Microsoft. Those two powerful consoles cannot afford any months were the sales aren't amazing or huge. I got nothing against the PS4/One. I think they both are awesome. Just wait until the launch hype dies for these consoles... As in... the people who could afford the PS4/One have bought the console(s) they want on launch day. But what about what happens after launch day? The people who can't afford them yet can't buy them. The PS4/One might struggle like crazy. The economy in America is just awful. Like, REALLY, bad. D:

But will we see that many articles talking about how the PS4/One are struggling with sales when it inevitably happens? HA! I highly doubt it. Alotta gaming media have been writing about how bad the U is selling for a good while now. I'm nearly positive those same gaming media won't do the same when the PS4/One struggle. I'm telling you guys.. Just watch how the PS4/One launch happens. Wait until a few months after November to see how people are reacting....

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123. Posted:

CanisWolfred wrote:

When the hell did Nintendo publish 40 Wii games? I only have 7 Nintendo games for the Wii, and I got 27 Wii games total...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_products_published_by_Ni...

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124. Posted:

@Blastoise-san:

Remember the Wii U launch? That thing was selling like hotcakes, and now it's struggling. As I like to say, "The bigger they hype, the harder they crash.", unless that hype turns into something like the PS2.

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125. Posted:

@SomeBitTripFan Man, I hear you.

I own a Wii U and 3DS. I do plan on getting a PS4 someday :D

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127. Posted:

SomeBitTripFan wrote:

"The bigger they hype, the harder they crash.", unless that hype turns into something like the PS2.

I like how your logic is "this thing sure does happen, except when it doesn't". 5 stars, would read again.

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@kkslider5552000: What I'm saying is that there is a zone where hype only results in disappointment, but at a certain point a threshold is crossed and they hype carries it through. Look at the Wii U launch, the 360 lauch, the PS3 launch, OUYA, Beyond: Two Souls, Aliens: Colonial Marines, and ET: The Game. There has to be enough hype, or at least something not totally disappointing to preserve momentum. Is there ever a true definite in the world? Yes, gravity, physics, and the like, but trends can't all follow the exact same path, some have factors that produce a different result, but since you seem to derive pleasure from taking anything I say to an absolute literal and bashing it on that basis, I guess I need to post walls of text to put my exact thoughts in the most long-winded, unnecessarily descriptive way possible.

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SCAR392

129. Posted:

Well, I've been pretty content with my Wii U. I was actually playing it a ton more, before Pokemon came out today, of course.

Like Nintendo said, I think it's a matter of understanding the system that ends up mattering the most. All we have is the hardware with not that much software available and the OS isn't finished, and people tend to look at what the hardware can do from a first impression.

I could tell everyone that I'm 100% sure Wii U can do more than it is currently, but noboby really ever cares. The most interesting part is how alot of people gradually have come to an understanding that Wii U is more powerful than the PS3 when alot of us knew that from the start.

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Kingdom Hearts 2.5 Remix announced for a worldwide release in 2014! Includes final mix versions of KH2 and Birth By Sleep. So happy about this news as I don't have a PSP anymore, and you can't get BBS digitally so no way to play it on Vita. It also had remastered cut scenes from Re: Coded.

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131. Posted:

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You just made my day.

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132. Posted:

Here's the trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAjibyskPas

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133. Posted:

@Blastoise-san

hoho my friend you forget that Microsoft has enough money to do what ever the hell they want, and Sony has returned to profitablitly. Both companies have other bussness that makes money that will make up for theier systems being slow. Hence your assumption that the Xbox One and PS4 being a big blow for the companies of they struggle is wrong. Espically since both companies still have two consoles that will probably sell the best this holiday season. Now Nintendo is on the end of the specturm that if the Wii U is doing badly they're a bit ****** since the company has only two core bussiness. Doesn't mater how great the 3DS is doing if the other 50% of your company is struggling. Back in the day the GBA could cover the Gamecube losses but development and hardware costs are too much for that ,

Also people seem to be much more repctive of digital content on the Xbox/Playstation eco system than they are Nintendo's. There a reason why the Vita despite selling like crap has a high attach rate and higher developer support in surveys than the 3DS. (though that's Nintendo's fault to be honest/)

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134. Posted:

New trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2VV8kb15CQ

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135. Posted:

Sony_70 wrote:

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hoho my friend you forget that Microsoft has enough money to do what ever the hell they want, and Sony has returned to profitablitly. Both companies have other bussness that makes money that will make up for theier systems being slow. Hence your assumption that the Xbox One and PS4 being a big blow for the companies of they struggle is wrong.

PS4 struggling would definitely be a blow to Sony. Why else would they have said this?
http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/09/17/andrew-house-sony-comp...

Edit: I suppose Lz's right about Microsoft also taking a blow if XBO fails.

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136. Posted:

Actually Pachter suggested that Microsoft would hurt a lot if the Xbox one failed. Keep in mind they are taking risks everywhere

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137. Posted:

ScroogeMcLz wrote:

Actually Pachter suggested that Microsoft would hurt a lot if the Xbox one failed. Keep in mind they are taking risks everywhere

It depends on how the rest of their bussiness are doing. Office and Azure are doing just fine with Azure seeing some growth. Windows was still doing great and Windows 8 is catching more momentum as we speak. The only real risk from a product line is the Surface and that's only due to the RT varient as the Surface Pro sold pretty well .
Microsoft's biggest problem is less that the company is any real risk but their late to alot of markets. WIndows Phone is number #3 and is seeing a a nice amount of growth yet it was late to the amrket and will never be #1 or #2. Microsoft also has the problem that Apple is facing that PC's in thre tradtional sense are giving way to chromebooks and Tablets.

But I do understand the point your coming from.

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SCAR392

138. Posted:

Did anyone else compare the new Kindom Hearts 3 game to Super Mario 3D World?

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139. Posted:

SCAR392 wrote:

Did anyone else compare the new Kindom Hearts 3 game to Super Mario 3D World?

Why? There completely 2 different games. -_-

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140. Posted:

ShadowFox254 wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

Did anyone else compare the new Kindom Hearts 3 game to Super Mario 3D World?

Why? There completely 2 different games. -_-

I'm talking graphically. This is what this thread was about to begin with... Square Enix said Wii U wouldn't be able to run this game because of the lack of Direct X 11 support(and many said it was graphic problems).

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