1skywakeMon 13th May 2013 This is a thread on a fairly popular forum for PC enthusiasts forum where they asked what their "gaming sins" are. AKA "what's in your pile of shame". What struck me is how many people on that thread mentioned Mario and Zelda. So my thinking is, is this why Nintendo is hitting a bit of rocky territory ATM? Maybe the assumption that people are just interested in Mario & Zelda doesn't hold as much as it once did. There's this new generation of "core" gamers on their way who have had nothing to do with either of them. They started gaming in the Gamecube era when Wind Waker and Sunshine were making the less informed think that Nintendo had jumped the shark. If they haven't played a Mario or a Zelda game yet why would they be interested in the idea of them on the Wii U? Does the Wii U offer any other competitive advantage if you take those major first party titles away? Or is the lack of these titles thus far the reason why they're struggling? When they release the new 3D Mario and the Wind Waker remake how do they reach these gamers who want to play these games but haven't gotten around to it yet? Or should they reinvent themselves with something new entirely? Even if it's "new" versions of what they already have like OoT being the first 3D Zelda and Metroid being a first person "adventure" game? Edited on Mon 13th May, 2013 @ 04:03 by skywake NNID: skywake Musics to set the tone: Think, Dance, Relax "Don't stir the pot" is a nice way of saying "they're too dumb to reason with"