No, go with what sells to bring in customers and then also do a new ip but i don't want creative teams taken away from the hd mario and zelda just for this super ip.

Cool! Can't wait for Nintendo to turn it around for wiiu!

Im pretty sure boingy bits is in the bible somewhere! If it isn't there's everything else that happens in the bible too!

You have to show id just to buy an m rated game, this is stupid anymore. More nudity would be nice all gore and no sex is dull!

3dland didnt feel rushed theres a ton of content in that darn game! If there's a delay people bitch, if it comes a month earlier than expected even though it was years in development it's 'rushed'! The internet fails at everything!

If i didn'talready buy the console i woukd have for 3d mario in hd! Its gonna feel like n64 all over again, it can't be missed!

And heavy price hikes will likely kill consoles if that happens. There's a good chance mobiles and other open platforms will continue to take up the vast majority of the market share. The only thing is sometimes sales are actually better on consoles for a game despite the huge install base of phones. That was the same story with the Wii vs. the 360 and PS3 so it'll be interesting to see how things go.

Here's my two cents on what both Nintendo and second and third parties are doing. They're moving most of their games to a late summer to holiday release time. The reason? Third parties probably perceive that as being a time that they'll be a second rush of people picking up the Wiiu console. For Nintendo I think the strategy is to have a broad selection of new games to play come holiday so that when consumers look to pick out a console next year they'll be looking at PS4 and 720 which will be expensive and light on content and comparing that to Wiiu which will likely be quite a bit cheaper and will theoretically have a great deal of content by this time. I don't think quality has anything to do with it, they see curing the current draught as less of a necessity as they do making the case for Wiiu at the end of the year. They're focusing a glut of content for that time period because that's when people will be looking at the Wiiu in stores most.

3ds got quite a bit of a lead on Vita because of this. You went to the store and yeah the Vita had a lot of launch games but 3ds was getting a pretty good selection at this point, the quality of the games were comparable, and yeah the graphics weren't as good, but for a portable they were good enough and 3ds games were by no means ugly, plus the asking price was considerably less.

So, much less then curing the draught, things are really riding on end of the year hoopla. The people waiting for games already bought the system and know things are eventually coming. It appears as though Nintendo is putting most focus between august and christmas 2013 to make a case for the Wiiu. It's definitely an all or nothing approach in my view. We'll see if it works out for them! There's good chances it will unless they just really screw things up!

More VC titles, and eshop downloads, even some hd gamecube games. Stuff like that would certainly be good service to people that bought the console early however, and it's a shame they aren't doing that more!

Of course I'd buy gtav on wiiu not even a question! I don't see this as impossible we got bully and manhunt.

There are good games just not system sellers. I bought the console for raymabs because I love ray man games and Nintendo fans might be one of the few left that buy consoles f sidescrollers! That said is that game viable at 60? I see the value and will get it when others get gta but ultimately that 60 dollar price point seems odd to me! I think the game is worth it but the general public probably won't perceive a game like that the same way as a shooter that they'll pay 60 and then buy dlc for. It's just because people don't care about hand drawn art anymore they don't perceive the value.

That's the kind of game that may have been good as episodes to hook people in. They'd be more likely to buy a few levels at 10 and then get a few more if they had a blast with it.

But its the first controller that you can't buy a replacement yet I don't wanna wear it out haha!

@MasterWario I wonder if there are people that are scared to street pass haha! Maybe it's like exchanging fluids to them!

@Fusion14 Dude I typed that from a Starbucks where my 3ds connected automatically and they also have that Nintendo Zone thing at them. I'm in Seattle though the home of Starbucks with NOA nearby so maybe that's it but every time I pass a Starbucks my 3ds gets internet pretty much.

It's true! But being a year early they haven't much cared about competition yet and it sucks!! Best console to date worst marketing ever!

In the states you go to a Starbucks your 3ds connects to the net automatically. So you connect without even knowing it!

There could be a lot of good potential out of this too. There's no doubt a show coming out would have them compared to Sony and Microsoft and they really don't want to be compared to Sony and Microsoft anymore. So much less of the console war garbage of "how will you compete with A from Sony and how will you compete with B from Microsoft" and more focus on all of the games. I really DON"T want people to talk about if the WIiu is next gen or not for three weeks when it doesn't fucking matter because the games are awesome and that whole "next gen" thing is just fucking marketing buzzwords like "hardcore" that all the drones have a pavlovian response to!

The other possiblity is if the other two consoles just try to rip eachother apart but neither one gets out of it with much success nintendo may come out more ahead then we've bargained. But who knows that's a big if!

I don't think the mainstream watches public these, it's the press. And the press are still being catered to. I do wonder if potential stock investors will back Nintendo if they don't have the hype from a show.

They've had to appeal to too many people with these, the fans, the press, the stock investors, and the general public. And they've gotten boring. I'm fine with a fancast and then footage from gaming press about the games just like we had a week or so ago. And I don't need to know the whole year anymore, just what's coming out in the next few months.

I feel it does say one thing though. Nintendo is doing their own thing with the Wiiu and 3ds and they have their own goals with those systems. They are NOT competing with Sony and Microsoft this gen pretty much just like last gen. The Wiiu will be just like 3ds and get lots of 1st party games and then probably a lot of the Japanese third party support and hopefully we'll see that support make it to the west because their affordable consoles are a better venue for it these days!

I'm just glad they're still around and I'm sure they'll be fine!

Thing is E3 doesn't really do much for the mainstream wow factor except for a headline or two. If I see the games and they advertise to get this system off the ground ill be happy!

Nintendo doing their own thing like always looks like the nintendo directs are the announcements and besides another ND at e3 its going to be about all the games we've already heard about. Looks like they aren't going to compete with the sony microsoft hype train, that's not their thing anymore. With 3ds it doesn't matter but wiiu? I dunno i dont even watch that stuff, i dont care about ceo conferences they're too officey. So for me nintendo direct is all i need.

Now he can kick ass and take names in smash brothers "directly!"

Yeah, Wiiu! It's a bit better than the Wii! Look at this guy, he says it's different it's gotta be! Not really a good marketing campaign, lol! It's like they're admitting defeat almost! Like "I know this console looks like poo but it's actually kinda cool!"

The Wiiu add campaign is meh! They really don't inspire hype for the system but perhaps that add campaign isn't going to start until there's first party games to sell the system and not just a sidescroller that's a lot like the one everyone has on Wii!

They kinda lied about what the wii remote could do in the add campaign of the last console and perhaps wanting to avoid that this time has caused for a lot more boring adds? Who knows!

@banacheck I'm fairly certain game budgets will go up, they have every gen! UNLESS they make games on more affordable budgets, which is entirely possible. It isn't only graphics but everything you've mentioned, better AI, better animations, more characters on screen, would factor into cost as well. But I'm speaking of that "next gen" look! The look they try to go for to "warrant" the purchase of the console and make a case for why you need it, is going to be expensive. That is if they go with that strategy this time and seeing how things are in the industry I think they'll sell these consoles more as an evolution than a leap. The features are going to be more important. I'm comparing the cap for what they're willing to spend on a video game budget to the cap on budgets for PORTABLES that, in my view, prevent the PSVITA from doing much that really outperforms the 3ds.

My point is graphical updates use to make the last gen look inferior. They just don't anymore. Graphics will continue to get better but I don't think it's any big deal and you just don't need a massive gaming tower to get good graphics anymore. Graphics are becoming a moot point and the leap feels less and less every gen. They could even make a good uncharted game on a 3ds if they wanted believe it or not!

My point was analysing that the screens are smaller so we're seeing a plateau a gen behind. We're seeing that the graphics are good on PSVITA, but it isn't a deal breaker for the 3ds by any means. I think we're finally going to see the same thing happen with the consoles this gen. Graphics will be noticeably better, but probably won't be a deal breaker either way. Plus, devs are going to rethink how they make games so we'll probably see lest focus on making those "special effects reels" they're calling games to warrant the console.

For me personally, I think it's going to be open world games that we'll see the biggest facelift. Those seem to be the games that always start to look dated earliest for me.

Yes I want it for Wiiu! If we got this and Metal Gear I'd be thrilled! Anything being ported up to PS4/720 that also don't have an install base should be ported to Wiiu as well! There's no excuse! Unfortunately, it's probably likely that Nintendo is going to miss this one!

I think the portable market could be kind of a window into what's to come with the consoles. I, personally, began to feel we hit a point the graphical difference became so small on portables it doesn't even matter. What I mean is there was a pretty noticeable leap between DS and PSP and Wii and PS3. Now with 3ds to VIta, yeah there's a difference between Uncharted and Mario 3d land and Resident Evil... but does anyone really actually CARE at this point. And I think we hit this point where it would cost too much money to make a "Next Gen" Vita game that would "prove" 3ds to be truly inferior tech. Now you can compare this gen of portables to Wii and PS3, true, but smaller screens are part of the reason the difference is less stark on 3ds and PSvita.

Now Wiiu and PS4 and 720 are on bigger screens, but I think this is the gen where we really see it become almost a pointless endeavour especially now that everyone is in HD and in order to fully use the PS4 hardware means a more expensive budget on a console with no initial install base, so it won't get that initial wow factor for several years. Like Vita it may become too expensive for 720 or PS4 developers to throw the money in to really set themselves apart from Wiiu games. Plus we aren't factoring in that many of the Graphics Whores on consoles are suddenly realizing there's this thing called a PC and are going to that for their graphics fix now.

I don't know, I think we know what we're getting with Wiiu, HD nintendo. I think there's much more a question mark with new Xbox and Playstation than people would like you to believe. The multiplats aren't going to matter anymore imo, because in a few years they're going to be on every damn device out there from a PC to a phone.

Wooo! That was a long rant! I should end it with a "But that's just my opinion! I could be wrong!" haha!

I guess my final point that brings everything home is this. Will Uncharted 5 make Mario Galaxy 3 look any less fantastic. No, not really. Like Golden Abyss and 3d Land, at the end of the day the experience we'll probably feel pretty comparable. Long way to say that I guess.

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I actually don't think the WIiu is doing that poorly. I actually think it's got a lot of good games especially if you don't have a 360 or PS3 already. I think the delay on first party content is the same reason there was a delay on 3ds. They started this generation by giving third party an opportunity to lead on the platform while they developed content. It seemed commendable on paper but it didn't work out too well, they adjusted strategy and now their fine. There's no reason the Wiiu shouldn't be a similar situation. They'll adjust strategy, release a ton of content to get the system off the ground and be fine. I think that they didn't feel the NEED to say anything shows confidence. If they didn't have anything in the works Nintendo would be panicking about the poor sales but they aren't. They know people are going to buy the console when they see the games.

@Wilford111 Haha, pretty much! The first rule about home console is we do NOT talk about home console!

I'm holding out for E3. If the story doesn't change by then, I'll be a lot more worried for the console. You can't expect that kind of news in a Nintendo direct. All three companies are really on Radio silence on what they have for their home consoles because they don't want to give another company time to retaliate when they announce the big guns!

I actually like how much the Zelda franchise has to go on. The fact that their can be a subcategory of Zelda sequel shows how different every iteration is. The unique Zelda formula is really just the thread that connects these games and allow them to consistently be different but appeal to a broad audience IMO. I've played through Phantom Hourglass and Skyward Sword and they don't even feel like the same experience.

This is why I gotta go with hard copies! Even with Wiiu, if your Wiiu fails and you have to buy another one, then what? It does suck with digital only content though!

Yeah people are complaining about the lack of wiiu games but I'm fairly sure they're saving that for e3. This was just so 3ds gets some limelight beforehand. That's my theory.

I'd like to see the big N do more features like this! I'd love to share my miiverse drawings on other networks and its a huge advantage because their touch screens are actually good for dwing, I hear the dual touch ones are less accurate.

This was the same guy that that leaked the no always online drum and full back compatible for 360! I love how a guy named cheesemeister can be taken as a reputable source on the internet! That's not a knock on Nintendolife it's just funny!

@Intrepid I bet it's more addictive to look through drawins on miiverse than open letters that may be hard for. the Japanese to read and NOA does very little for fans much of the time. So drawing stuff on Miiverse is probably one of the first times we've had access to developer eyeballs!

And all it took was a miiverse! Nintendo fans have a new found use for Miiverse! Getting Nintendo to release the stuff we've wanted for years!

Heck yeah!

This could give ninty an edge especially when the new hardware drops in price.

I'm sure wiiu will rock e3 I get the feeling the competition isn't going to have much yet, looks like a lot of ports of current Gen games, and is also going to be expensive where the Wiiu should have a decent lineup of games unless things get delayed and that would be rough!

This is cool but we need some info on when games like Wonderful 101, Windwaker HD and Pikmin are hitting the console because we've got nothing on that front! Wiiu is in a drought and we don't even know when we're getting the launch games! I'm not saying spoil the stuff for E3, I just want to know about the stuff we were already promised!

For 3ds I'd like more entries in 1st party titles that aren't mario related. I get they released all those mario games to boost sales for the 3ds and assure 3rd parties, but I'd like to see a Metroid, Zelda, or Starfox, or even an Fzero! Yes please!

3ds is now doing pretty well so Nintendo can afford to experiment!

Wiiu wasn't inclded because it turns out were getting the sidescroller!

So the plot is he's going up against terrorists that are mad that the american government took their land and resources. Ugggggh! These games aren't my thing!

PC it is then!

N64 did keep it's quality over quantity promise. The PS1 had so many terrible games, not that it didn't have tons of good games as well, but people kind of forget that PS1 had so many unplayable games come out for it at the time! Quality was a real issue, much like on the Wii later! I think Nintendo hardware tends to age really well too. I'm totally considering picking up a Gamecube and N64 again because there were tons of games from studios your never going to get again!

The controls had gotten better than metal gears in the last game I played although they're different beasts and mgs4 is designed to feel like you're controlling a tank.

I dont feel like i need it, its harder to reach the touch screen with my thumb when using it and im fine aiming with buttons or using the touch screen in monster hunter. I actually thought the controls were really good in the metal gear port without the circle pad, but thats me.

Wow scary! I've thought about buying a ps3 slim for last of us, but if its lights on a lot of stuff a few months in to Ps4 maybe I'll wait! This is an awkward time! You don't want to buy the old because they may stop supporting it in just a year but you don't want to buy the new yet because there won't be any games and no back compatibility. Its a good thing games are long because it sure is a waiting game!

What screwed up use of language! The Xbox 360 is an STD! The Wii was a good console that eventually saw some.great games can we get over it and move on?

His main argument is factual, who's wording is fan boyish and stupid!

Well thats cool! Psn has good games!

I think a lot of people will go wiiu gaming rig i lean that way unless ps4 wows me. I like the games but then i realize i can watch a movie thats way cheaper and no longer care!