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Bassman_Q

NES Metroid is TERRIBLE. Period. 4/10

Metroid II is good, but the music is terrible and the game is a little linear. Fortunately, the difficulty is not nearly as bad as Metroid 1. 7/10

Super Metroid is an awesome game, but there is no navigation hints, so you'll either be spending hours figuring out where to go or do what I did and use a walkthrough every time I got stuck. Really great game, though. 9/10

Metroid Fusion is good, and you are told where to go, but I think it's a lot harder than Super Metroid (In terms of fighting enemies and bosses and escaping from SA-X) Good game, but not as good s SM. 8/10

Zero Mission is every bit as good as Fusion, plus better graphics and an easier difficulty. However, it is on the short side for a Metroid game. 8/10

Prime is my favorite, and has a pretty good difficulty level, and awesome graphics. Its also pretty lengthy. A must buy. 10/10

Prime 2 I thought was way too hard. My least favorite Prime game. 6/10

Prime Hunters is good, but has a lot of annoying aspects to it, and doesn't have as many hidden secrets as other Metroid games. Still pretty fun though. 8/10

Prime 3 is awesome, and is almost as good as Prime 1. 9/10

I recommend getting Prime Trilogy (Wii), Super Metroid (Wii VC), and possibly Zero Mission or Fusion (GBA).

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CanisWolfred

I loved Metroid 1, but I'd recommend getting Zero Mission instead, which is a remake of it. It's a lot more fluid, has a Map, and it has more bosses and powers. Plus, it's easier to learn the layout, which would also come in handy if you ever intend on playing the original(the layout's pretty similar). Still, if you want a challenge, and don't mind getting lost(or looking up maps and/or walkthroughs online), I'd say go for Metroid 1. It's probably my favorite out of the 2D games, next to Zero Mission. They come on the same cart, anyways, and I generally view it as Zero Mission's hard mode(a plus, since Zero Mission was a bit too easy at times).

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Metroid is a really fine game, even though you can get lost pretty damn quick and you don't have a built-in map to check your current location. You can also unlock it in Zero Mission or Metroid Prime.

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Wow... you can tell a lot of the gamers here are young when they trash the original Metroid. The game is clearly and early NES title. This has some downsides (weak graphics, no automap, confusing storyline, poorly documented, uneven difficulty) but also some great innovations (huge environments and the first game to scroll in both directions, tons of secrets and tricks to uncover, speed run rewards once you learn how to beat the game). It's an amazing classic and worth playing for anyone who loves old school Atari and Nintendo games!

However, I don't recommend starting with that game for most people. Younger people especially are MUCH better off getting the Metroid: Zero Mission remake for Gameboy Advance. That game fixes all of the "problems", but still gives a lot of room for speed runs and discovery. It includes most of the same content as the NES original - but with lots of extra tricks and features, and a fairly long stealth section at the end of the game. Best of all, when you finish Zero Mission you will unlock the original Metroid for play so that you can see how it compares to the original game.

Don't pick up Metroid Fusion right away either becuase it's totally atypical for a Metroid game. You have no free roaming, and are hand-held the entire way. It's still a good action game... but not the best Metroid game at all.

Super Metroid on the SNES is awesome, and probably the best of the bunch -- but it's definitely better AFTER you have played either the original or Zero Mission because the story is continued between games. (Of course, you've probably all read enough spoilers by now that it won't matter.)

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Djungelurban

ejamer wrote:

[Metroid has] some great innovations.

So did the T-Ford... Important too. But it sure as hell isn't a good car... Quite often it seems people mix up "first" with good, or "old" with good, or "classic" with good. Being first with something is admirably in a way sure and the contribution might be really important... But it doesn't make it good. Space Invaders is one of the most important games in the history of gaming and it layed the ground work for one of my favorite genres... But it is still a vile and horrid piece of manure that apart from its heritage has no redeemable values and there's no doubt in my mind that it belong among the 25% worst retail games ever produced... I'm not saying that Metroid is as bad as Space Invaders, but it's a collection of good ideas burdened by insufficient hardware. And by now those ideas have been redone and eclipsed so many times, both by the series itself and by others, that these day it hardy has much value anymore.

And for the record, I'm 25... Is that old enough for you? If not I'd be happy to list 30 older games than Metroid that are better than it... I'm not ripping on Metroid because it's old, but because it's not very good...

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JeanLuc_Vaycard

I'm 26 and I agree with you jungle. Metroid is very dated and has not aged well at all. Some games do age well, but by far after Super Metroid was released, the original was put to shame in my opinion.

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Djungelurban wrote:

Quite often it seems people mix up "first" with good, or "old" with good, or "classic" with good. Being first with something is admirably in a way sure and the contribution might be really important... But it doesn't make it good.

Yeah, just look at Ocarina of Time.

Sorry, I couldn't help myself. I love Ocarina of Time; I just think it's overrated. Don't kill me

Anyway, to stay on-topic: I agree with Mickeymac, get Zero Mission. And after you've unlocked the original NES version I challenge you to play for five minutes without getting lost

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JayArr

Axoloth wrote:

Yeah, just look at Ocarina of Time......

....... I just think it's overrated.

Ocarina of Time Over-rated!? You might need this flame sheild, son........

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Axoloth

Hey, don't quote my sentences out of context and make people hate me. My view on Ocarina of Time already brings me enough hatin' from my OoT-fanboy friend

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Djungelurban

Axoloth wrote:

And after you've unlocked the original NES version I challenge you to play for five minutes without getting lost

Hey, I challenge you to play 5 minutes... Lasting that long is kind of a feat.

ejamer

Djungelurban wrote:

And for the record, I'm 25... Is that old enough for you? If not I'd be happy to list 30 older games than Metroid that are better than it... I'm not ripping on Metroid because it's old, but because it's not very good...

You maybe missed the part where I recommend skipping it for Metroid: Zero Mission because that remake is prettier, more accessible, and a general improvement over the original NES game.

That said, we still totally disagree. Metroid hasn't aged well (mostly because of technical limitations), but it is still a great game and a tremendous design. The game offers a challenging environment to explore that is filled with secrets and hidden passages, and creates a great sense of isolation. It's still one of the best speed run games available, and becomes more rewarding as your skill level and familiarity with the game improves. So many new games seem to be designed for a quick play through before being discarded -- Metroid is the opposite, and only gets better and better as you learn more about the secrets inside the game.

Still, I'd love to hear your list of 30 games that older than Metroid and still better than it. Such a list is entirely possible, because there are tons of great retro games. I'd just like to hear it to see what games you enjoy.

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Axoloth

Djungelurban wrote:

Hey, I challenge you to play 5 minutes... Lasting that long is kind of a feat.

Oh, I can last longer than that. By all means, let the records show I'm quite fond of retro games, and I rather like the original Metroid. I just get lost all the time.
Anyway, the rooms are kinda repetitive and all, so I see why some wouldn't endure. I haven't finished the original myself, actually...

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Rocketship92

ive a free download of metroid to give away, any1 want to trade something for it? or if not u can have it for free

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NotEnoughGolds

Hey the only thing that bothers me about this game is that you start with 30 energy when you die.
That's 2 hits in any of the tougher areas.
And I refuse to sit around farming hundreds of energy to fill up my tanks.
I could waste 20 minutes doing that, or I could go play something else.

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Djungelurban

ejamer wrote:

Still, I'd love to hear your list of 30 games that older than Metroid and still better than it. Such a list is entirely possible, because there are tons of great retro games. I'd just like to hear it to see what games you enjoy.

Sorry, gonna have to go back on that statement... After double checking the release date for Metroid for the FDS... I didn't realize the difference between the Japanese and USA release was a whole year... Lost quite a few nice games there. Right now I'm 8 games short of 30...

Here they are anyway, for your enjoyment:
Bomberman
Bosconian
Darius
Dig Dug
Donkey Kong
Galaga
Gaplus
Ghosts 'n Goblins
Gradius
Gyruss
Hang-On
Ice Climber
Legend of Zelda
Marble Madness
Pac-Man/Ms Pac-Man
Space Harrier
Star Force
Super Mario Bros
Super Sprint
Terra Cresta
TwinBee
Xevious

ejamer

Djungelurban wrote:

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(list of a bunch of classic games)
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We might have different taste in games, but just mentioning Bosconian and Dig Dug makes it all ok. Some nice choices in that list!

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mrchillz

forget metroid, you'll should enroll in a gramar class

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JayArr

mrchillz wrote:

forget metroid, you'll should enroll in a gramar class

Dude, that's rude. It ain't be being that serious.

Chillz out man.

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CanisWolfred

If it was good then, it's still good now. Simple as that. That's my phylosophy, and it's worked out pretty well so far.

Metroid is, and always will be a classic. The levels are brilliantly designed, the gameplay is as fun as ever, exploring the world is a pleasure, especially since it was difficult and intense. There's really nothing not to love.

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Djungelurban

ejamer wrote:

We might have different taste in games, but just mentioning Bosconian and Dig Dug makes it all ok. Some nice choices in that list!

Actually, I don't "like" all of those games. Some of them are thoroughly average and a few aren't even that good... Especially Bomberman since it suffers from the same problem that Metroid has (good idea, bad execution), but because of the simple concept you're able to deal with that execution easier...

But regarding Bosconian and Dig Dug specifically, then yes... Those games I like...

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