HDTV's was on the market before we even seen the PS3/360, by the time the PS3/360 came out HDTV's where falling in price and taken over.
They were still pretty expensive for the first couple years PS3/360 were available. What also helped last generation was the switch from analog to digital signals which forced a lot of people who owned the much older TVs to upgrade.
While true, there were still far more HDTVs in 2006 than there will be 4K TVs in 2018 (probable start of next console generation). Several times more, in fact.
Most people don't buy a new TV very often. Heck, before upgrading to HDTV, my family had the same old ugly tube TV since well before I was born. TVs really didn't change a whole lot in the three or four decades before flat screens, so this recent trend of a new technologically superior TV on the market every few years is new and consumers haven't adapted to it yet.
Market dominance of 4K TVs will eventually happen. That is an inevitability, but it isn't expected to happen until around 2024.
So Anakin kneels before Monster Mash and pledges his loyalty to the graveyard smash.
The boss wasn't that bad,it wasn't perfect but it wasn't terrible.
There was a Lava-like substance filling the whole arena, with only 4 safe platforms spread way too far out, the boss summons a blitz of enemies on a frequent basis that can't really be hurt, the boss tends to hide behind objects during here remarkably rare vulnerable states, when you have to "go in for the kill" she's always in the middle of the pool so you have to go out and hurt yourself in oder to get to her, and you have to do a stupid quicktime event 4 times, the same one every time. If you can think of a worse boss, lay it on me, because I can't think of one.
@Caniswolfred The boss battle was okay, but I personally thought the pacing was fine. I thought the story was great. I have no idea how you thought you were almost done 1/3rd way through. That would have been way too short a game. I don't remember it being too repetitive either. There was also another major collectable in the game, the dead drops (data drops? Maybe I heard it wrong) that you get from the dish recievers on the rooftops. And how is it a 40+ hour game? I beat it in like a week (two at the max) if I remember right, and I messed around in the game (a lot), and did some side-missions. Unless you try to get every shard which I don't see the point of. I know I also put more than 40+ H into the game overall. I spent hours upon hours running around after I beat it. And on the power upgrades, I don't remember having too many problems with it, but I don't remember it well enough to make a good reply for it.
I forgot about the dishes because the dishes didn't do anything...but yeah, I did all the side missions we could because that was the fastest way to get level-ups. We also went for a lot of the shards because we thought they were necessary but gave up once we realized how incredibly tedious they, which is a shame since that was the most fun aspect of the game, which I think says a lot. And yes, we were about 12 hours into the game when we got to the second district. That was more than enough for me. It didn't help that we got most of the powers by then, too, so the rest of the game was gonna be the same stuff for god knows how long.
I find it interesting how most of you doubt Nintendo's ability to "quickly" release a cutting-edge console (4k, more powerful than PS4/One).
Rewind even just 6 months and most people on this board were whining about Nintendo's inability to have an online structure much like Live: can't download when the system is off, can't que to download remotely, can't preload games, 3DS/Wii U accounts not connected, etc. Look how quickly all of that was fixed. Have a bit more faith.
Taking into account some of the comments made by Nintendo concerning hardware limitations, I actually think it is quite probably their next system will be a beast. They will still have a couple years to gauge whether or not 4k is sticking (and it is, but you know), and their next console will launch in 2017 and be infinitely more capable than One/PS4.
Or not. I'm just another internet person spouting opinions lol
Completely agree with you, Nintendo has been responding to the fans incredibly well. Nintendo wants to make money and I think they understand if they make a powerful console it will equal sales, I mean an Nintendo console with both first party and third party support would destroy the competition.
The main thing Nintendo need to sort out is an account based system. The 360 had this setup and ready in 2006, Android, Apple, Sony, Ubisoft, Steam, Origin and many other companies all use account based systems so none of their customers data can be completely lost and can be easily retrievable from any device as long as it's connected to that account.
Until then, Nintendo will always be behind, even if their next system runs at 4K, 120FPS and makes me sandwiches. Their online infrastructure is a joke and it should have been sorted years ago.
As for how long this gen will last? I don't see the Wii U sticking around for much longer, if Zelda doesn't revive it, I don't see it coming back at all. The Xbox One and PS4 are doing some really nice things so I don't see them upgrading for another 3-4 years, depending how the economic climate goes.
On the subject of an account-based system, Iwata has already stated this as a company goal. It'll happen, anytime between now and when the next console comes out, as a new feature for it.
As for how long the Wii U will last, I sure hope it lasts. I don't want to pay for a new console, especially when I don't think that this console has seen it's full potential of unique games yet. I guess I'm still hung up on the promise the system was supposed to be before it launched: lot's of asymmetrical gameplay, 2 Gamepad support, etc. But it all depends on if they can keep selling it. I just don't know how long consumer interest will last, especially now that Mario Kart and Smash are already out and old news. I personally am really excited for Splatoon, but my friends have never even heard of it.
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Hopefully not, the previous generation felt like it was on life support in the end.
Having generations longer than 5-6 years with static hardware is too much, IMO.
This is what I think, too. I was pretty done with 7th generation after Skyward Sword, Halo Reach, Gears of War 3, and Killzone 3. That was almost 4 damn years ago, and we are still getting 7th generation games on Xbox One and PS4, for the most part. PS3 and Xbox 360 basically still ARE on life support.
Everybody wants to move completely on to 8th generation hardware, but consumers and companies aren't really there, yet. I know PS4 is selling like hot cakes, but we still really aren't in 8th generation gaming, as far as I'm concerned.
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Problem with Nintendo releasing first is if they come out with guns blazing, Sony and Microsoft will simply bring bigger guns the following year. Repeat of Wii U ensues (though not as bad).
That wasn't really about the size of the guns though was it. It was because it was a boring launch lineup, a boring first year of games and a console that wasn't at all clear about who it was even for. Its taken them about 2 years to really decide what the audience is supposed to be.
The PS2 was the weakest Gen 6 console, released a year before Xbox and Gamecube, and it ended up selling both of them combined 3 times over. I think trying to get the drop on the competition is a very good strategy, when done properly. The Wii U obviously did not do it properly.
So Anakin kneels before Monster Mash and pledges his loyalty to the graveyard smash.
Problem with Nintendo releasing first is if they come out with guns blazing, Sony and Microsoft will simply bring bigger guns the following year. Repeat of Wii U ensues (though not as bad).
That wasn't really about the size of the guns though was it. It was because it was a boring launch lineup, a boring first year of games and a console that wasn't at all clear about who it was even for. Its taken them about 2 years to really decide what the audience is supposed to be.
On that subject, what is that audience? I'm still under the impression that the Wii U hasn't captured any kind of demographic outside the Nintendo fandom yet.
Problem with Nintendo releasing first is if they come out with guns blazing, Sony and Microsoft will simply bring bigger guns the following year. Repeat of Wii U ensues (though not as bad).
That wasn't really about the size of the guns though was it. It was because it was a boring launch lineup, a boring first year of games and a console that wasn't at all clear about who it was even for. Its taken them about 2 years to really decide what the audience is supposed to be.
On that subject, what is that audience? I'm still under the impression that the Wii U hasn't captured any kind of demographic outside the Nintendo fandom yet.
You nailed it. Right now, Nintendo is aware that the Wii U is never going to gain significant mainstream appeal, so they're doing what they can to cater to their core fandom.
So Anakin kneels before Monster Mash and pledges his loyalty to the graveyard smash.
Problem with Nintendo releasing first is if they come out with guns blazing, Sony and Microsoft will simply bring bigger guns the following year. Repeat of Wii U ensues (though not as bad).
That wasn't really about the size of the guns though was it. It was because it was a boring launch lineup, a boring first year of games and a console that wasn't at all clear about who it was even for. Its taken them about 2 years to really decide what the audience is supposed to be.
On that subject, what is that audience? I'm still under the impression that the Wii U hasn't captured any kind of demographic outside the Nintendo fandom yet.
You nailed it. Right now, Nintendo is aware that the Wii U is never going to gain significant mainstream appeal, so they're doing what they can to cater to their core fandom.
That's right. The few people I know who own a Wii U either got it because they're Nintendo fans, or because I showed them how fun it was.
I don't think this generation will last as long. The consoles from MS and Sony don't really do enough new stuff to drag it out for 10 years and iPad and phone games will make PS4 graphics look run-of-the-mill in a few years.
The next generation is a great opportunity for Nintendo to get an early head start against the others but history shows that Nintendo normally wait too long to launch their consoles. With the state of the Wii U sales compared to PS4's, Nintendo could feasibly launch a console years before PS5 but I can't really see them doing it.
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They still don't have an account based system that's not tied to your console I believe. They still are noticeably behind on in the online game. Which espcially for the aforementioned problem they have is unexcusable for a system released post PS360.
The account system is actually your NNID, similarly to PSN ID or Xbox Live Gamertag. You just can't transfer it as easily from a lost or stolen device, but it does exist, otherwise you would be unable to go on Miiverse or buy from other devices by signing in with it, which you can actually do, FYI. Don't worry, you'll probably forget that I posted this post, and we'll have another discussion about it later.
Problem with Nintendo releasing first is if they come out with guns blazing, Sony and Microsoft will simply bring bigger guns the following year. Repeat of Wii U ensues (though not as bad).
That wasn't really about the size of the guns though was it. It was because it was a boring launch lineup, a boring first year of games and a console that wasn't at all clear about who it was even for. Its taken them about 2 years to really decide what the audience is supposed to be.
On that subject, what is that audience? I'm still under the impression that the Wii U hasn't captured any kind of demographic outside the Nintendo fandom yet.
You nailed it. Right now, Nintendo is aware that the Wii U is never going to gain significant mainstream appeal, so they're doing what they can to cater to their core fandom.
It's been like that, since the beginning. Even on Wii U launch, the only people who would have wanted CoD Black Ops II, Tekken, or really any of the launch games on Wii U, were going to be Nintendo fans, especially if the games were already on Xbox 360 and PS3. If anything, being an avid Nintendo gamer as myself, I bought more 3rd party games, because they were actually on my console of choice for once. I had a PS3 and Xbox 360, but Wii U is actually the console that got me to care about those games more than the other consoles ever did, and it's because it's Nintendo.
Also, just because there are more PS4 and Xbox One sales, doesn't mean that they are more mainstream. We could easily say that 18 million very "hardcore" PS fans bought the console ASAP, and that's basically the only explanation, because Xbox One has the same games, but PS4 is selling better, which means people are buying Playstation for Playstation.
That's the annoying part of these discussions, is that everyone says Wii U is only appealing to Nintendo fans only, but that's also what is happening on Xbox One and PS4. It's just a larger number, so somehow you think the situation is different.
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Yea, about the account system... uhm... we have one of those now. Or else I must be dreaming when I sign into Miiverse from my smartphone and share credits between my Wii U and 3DS on the eShop. If you mean more in line of, "I'm going to my friend's house and want to bring up my Nintendo account on his Wii U," then yea, I see what you are saying ... but how often does that honestly come up? Like... once or twice (or no times) in most people's lifetime? Even on the Xbox I can't really remember a time when I really wanted to sign into MY account at a friend's house - I just played on their account for 99% of the multiplayer stuff.
And I also agree about last generation's length - it was TOO long. Man, that thing went on forever. It got so stale. I play mostly on PC, and my current rig is going on about 3 years with minimal upgrades and I'm feeling itchy about building a new one. But last console generation was over double that time, and I was beyond ready for something new. If the Wii U can make it two more years and release its successor in 2017, I'll be very, very happy. 4-5 is a good length console generations ... not 10.
And just to add, if you don't believe me, go look at something like PC Gamer or Tom's Hardware. The next generation of GPUs and even RAM technology is coming, and when those puppies release, power is going to skyrocket. Xbox One and PS4, in three years' time, are going to be laughable when it comes to developers wanting the cutting-edge stuff in their games. I honestly don't see how these machines are going to last until 2023.
Yea, about the account system... uhm... we have one of those now. Or else I must be dreaming when I sign into Miiverse from my smartphone and share credits between my Wii U and 3DS on the eShop. If you mean more in line of, "I'm going to my friend's house and want to bring up my Nintendo account on his Wii U," then yea, I see what you are saying ... but how often does that honestly come up? Like... once or twice (or no times) in most people's lifetime? Even on the Xbox I can't really remember a time when I really wanted to sign into MY account at a friend's house - I just played on their account for 99% of the multiplayer stuff.
And I also agree about last generation's length - it was TOO long. Man, that thing went on forever. It got so stale. I play mostly on PC, and my current rig is going on about 3 years with minimal upgrades and I'm feeling itchy about building a new one. But last console generation was over double that time, and I was beyond ready for something new. If the Wii U can make it two more years and release its successor in 2017, I'll be very, very happy. 4-5 is a good length console generations ... not 10.
And just to add, if you don't believe me, go look at something like PC Gamer or Tom's Hardware. The next generation of GPUs and even RAM technology is coming, and when those puppies release, power is going to skyrocket. Xbox One and PS4, in three years' time, are going to be laughable when it comes to developers wanting the cutting-edge stuff in their games. I honestly don't see how these machines are going to last until 2023.
They still don't have an account based system that's not tied to your console I believe. They still are noticeably behind on in the online game. Which espcially for the aforementioned problem they have is unexcusable for a system released post PS360.
The account system is actually your NNID, similarly to PSN ID or Xbox Live Gamertag. You just can't transfer it as easily from a lost or stolen device, but it does exist, otherwise you would be unable to go on Miiverse or buy from other devices by signing in with it, which you can actually do, FYI. Don't worry, you'll probably forget that I posted this post, and we'll have another discussion about it later.
Problem with Nintendo releasing first is if they come out with guns blazing, Sony and Microsoft will simply bring bigger guns the following year. Repeat of Wii U ensues (though not as bad).
That wasn't really about the size of the guns though was it. It was because it was a boring launch lineup, a boring first year of games and a console that wasn't at all clear about who it was even for. Its taken them about 2 years to really decide what the audience is supposed to be.
On that subject, what is that audience? I'm still under the impression that the Wii U hasn't captured any kind of demographic outside the Nintendo fandom yet.
You nailed it. Right now, Nintendo is aware that the Wii U is never going to gain significant mainstream appeal, so they're doing what they can to cater to their core fandom.
It's been like that, since the beginning. Even on Wii U launch, the only people who would have wanted CoD Black Ops II, Tekken, or really any of the launch games on Wii U, were going to be Nintendo fans, especially if the games were already on Xbox 360 and PS3. If anything, being an avid Nintendo gamer as myself, I bought more 3rd party games, because they were actually on my console of choice for once. I had a PS3 and Xbox 360, but Wii U is actually the console that got me to care about those games more than the other consoles ever did, and it's because it's Nintendo.
Also, just because there are more PS4 and Xbox One sales, doesn't mean that they are more mainstream. We could easily say that 18 million very "hardcore" PS fans bought the console ASAP, and that's basically the only explanation, because Xbox One has the same games, but PS4 is selling better, which means people are buying Playstation for Playstation.
That's the annoying part of these discussions, is that everyone says Wii U is only appealing to Nintendo fans only, but that's also what is happening on Xbox One and PS4. It's just a larger number, so somehow you think the situation is different.
Indeed. But, let's be honest, Sony and Microsoft have had much better marketing strategies than Nintendo.
Hopefully not, the previous generation felt like it was on life support in the end.
Having generations longer than 5-6 years with static hardware is too much, IMO.
This is what I think, too. I was pretty done with 7th generation after Skyward Sword, Halo Reach, Gears of War 3, and Killzone 3. That was almost 4 damn years ago, and we are still getting 7th generation games on Xbox One and PS4, for the most part. PS3 and Xbox 360 basically still ARE on life support.
Everybody wants to move completely on to 8th generation hardware, but consumers and companies aren't really there, yet. I know PS4 is selling like hot cakes, but we still really aren't in 8th generation gaming, as far as I'm concerned.
Exactly. I don't feel this generation has even started yet, i haven't seen as many youtube videos, hype for games. Just seems dry, but who knows it might all change
Hopefully not, the previous generation felt like it was on life support in the end.
Having generations longer than 5-6 years with static hardware is too much, IMO.
This is what I think, too. I was pretty done with 7th generation after Skyward Sword, Halo Reach, Gears of War 3, and Killzone 3. That was almost 4 damn years ago, and we are still getting 7th generation games on Xbox One and PS4, for the most part. PS3 and Xbox 360 basically still ARE on life support.
Everybody wants to move completely on to 8th generation hardware, but consumers and companies aren't really there, yet. I know PS4 is selling like hot cakes, but we still really aren't in 8th generation gaming, as far as I'm concerned.
Exactly. I don't feel this generation has even started yet, i haven't seen as many youtube videos, hype for games. Just seems dry, but who knows it might all change
Hype for games, Destiny for PS4? Hype for Uncharted 4?
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