Was it really a decade ago since the 360 launched? Yup. The rise of the indies, online play and so much more happened in the 7'th gen of gaming. The internet was really becoming well, usable and I'll never forget the infamous ps3 memes. In this thread I'll be taking a look back and then asking the big question. Will this generation be as long as the last?
If we look at a sales data yes, yes these consoles are doing very well. Well atleast the ps4 and xbox one are. As of now the playstation 4 is setting at a solid 18.2 million, in it's first year the ps4 sold better tremendously better than the ps2 did in it's first year. The difference was 5 million, needless to say it outsold the ps3 in it's first year as well. The xbox one also sold better than the previous iteration of the xbox brand. The xbox one sold twice as more than the 360 in it's first year.
In matter of fact the only system from the last generation that did better than the ps4 in it's first year is the original wii which sold 20 million in it's first year. So with these two systems selling much better than their previous iterations it must mean their 8'th generation systems will last longer, right? Well... maybe... but with 4K becoming more and more of a popular must have T.V living room accessory will these consoles stand? I don't think so. Even with strong sales the consumer are going to want to play their favorite video game franchises in beautiful 4K viewing, Sony and Microsoft will have to release a console that matches 4K viewing or else their next gen consoles will be considered outdated. Furthermore, imagine if nintendo releases a 4K system before the other guys. Nintendo could force the hand of sony and microsoft.
I can tell you right now I only own one of the 8'th generation consoles, it being the wii u. The reason I haven't brought up wii u numbers because if Nintendo were to release a console in 2016 or 2017 it would most likely be on par with the ps4 and xbox one specs and I don't think Nintendo themselves would call it a 9'th generation console. But if they did then this generation could end in a few years, like how the 7'th gen officially ended with the wii u launch.
So, with new tech on the rise and Nintendo actively making a next gen console how long is this console going to live for? Well I don't have an answer to that, maybe as long as the last, maybe forever or maybe just 4 or 6 years. Whatever the future lies, I am excited.
No, I think the 2008 worldwide recession had a significant impact on perceived consumer confidence and thus led to likely delays in the projected launch of new consoles during the early 2010's. It's not really an accurate comparison.
As far as forcing the hand of the other two by Nintendo launching a new 4k console, perhaps, but somewhat unlikely....I think both Microsoft and Sony command such a large slice of the console market that in effect, they set the trends of the industry while Nintendo goes down it's in road.......I just don't think it would have a huge impact for Nintendo, people wouldn't be rushing to thw store for a company that they have ignored for, by that time, almost 15 years. In that aspect, the wiimote would have had a bigger impact than just a resolution bump.
The Wii U might get a replacement as early as holiday 2016 or as late as 2018. I think the PS4 and XB1 will have replacements around 2018 and 2019.
No, I think the 2008 worldwide recession had a significant impact on perceived consumer confidence and thus led to likely delays in projected launch of new consoles during the 2010's. It's not really an accurate comparison.
As far as forcing the hand of the other two by Nintendo launching a new 4k console, perhaps, but somewhat unlikely....I think both Microsoft and Sony command such a large slice of the console market that in effect, they set the trends of the industry while Nintendo goes down it's in road.......I just don't think it would have a huge impact for Nintendo, people wouldn't be rushing to thw store for a company that they have ignored for, by that time, almost 15 years. In that aspect, the wiimote would have had a bigger impact than just a resolution bump.
The Wii U might get a replacement as early as holiday 2016 or as late as 2018. I think the PS4 and XB1 will have replacements around 2018 and 2019.
I agree with some of what you're saying but Nintendo use to set the trends. Last gen they made motion control the gimmick of the 7'th gen and pretty much only the wii u and the gamecube didn't set staples for the gaming industry. I completely agree with nintendo just releasing a 4K console wouldn't do anything. they would have to market it well. If they did it just right I could see them becoming king again, I mean if you could get your first party nintendo games on the most powerful gaming system and third party games then gg. Nintendo could easily take over the competition if they follow with that idea, a powerful console with amazing games will equal sales.
No, I think the 2008 worldwide recession had a significant impact on perceived consumer confidence and thus led to likely delays in projected launch of new consoles during the 2010's. It's not really an accurate comparison.
As far as forcing the hand of the other two by Nintendo launching a new 4k console, perhaps, but somewhat unlikely....I think both Microsoft and Sony command such a large slice of the console market that in effect, they set the trends of the industry while Nintendo goes down it's in road.......I just don't think it would have a huge impact for Nintendo, people wouldn't be rushing to thw store for a company that they have ignored for, by that time, almost 15 years. In that aspect, the wiimote would have had a bigger impact than just a resolution bump.
The Wii U might get a replacement as early as holiday 2016 or as late as 2018. I think the PS4 and XB1 will have replacements around 2018 and 2019.
I agree with some of what you're saying but Nintendo use to set the trends. Last gen they made motion control the gimmick of the 7'th gen and pretty much only the wii u and the gamecube didn't set staples for the gaming industry. I completely agree with nintendo just releasing a 4K console wouldn't do anything. they would have to market it well. If they did it just right I could see them becoming king again, I mean if you could get your first party nintendo games on the most powerful gaming system and third party games then gg. Nintendo could easily take over the competition if they follow with that idea, a powerful console with amazing games will equal sales.
It could work, but I personally just somewhat doubt it.....the Wii bucked the trend by a new controller input and method, not by specs......they market, the one of hardware and AAA has been dominated by the PC, Sony, and Microsoft for years. The last time that Nintendo was succesfuk in selling it's graphical prowlness was during the N64 days, and it worked in that smaller market (GCN was no slouch but the market emphasis was not as much on graphics as it was for the N64).
Either way, that's almost 20 years ago. The wiimote unveiling was a bigger seller for Nintendo than any resolution bump, and that odd situation still stands.
Not saying Nintendo couldn't rise like a phoenix and recapture the core marker, but as the years tick by, it's more and more less likely.
Nintendo has just made the jump to HD, so what makes you think there next system will be 4K ready? Nintendo, Sony & Microsoft are not going to be making console's 4K ready until it's in every home replacing HD, and that's a long time off yet.
No, I think the 2008 worldwide recession had a significant impact on perceived consumer confidence and thus led to likely delays in projected launch of new consoles during the 2010's. It's not really an accurate comparison.
As far as forcing the hand of the other two by Nintendo launching a new 4k console, perhaps, but somewhat unlikely....I think both Microsoft and Sony command such a large slice of the console market that in effect, they set the trends of the industry while Nintendo goes down it's in road.......I just don't think it would have a huge impact for Nintendo, people wouldn't be rushing to thw store for a company that they have ignored for, by that time, almost 15 years. In that aspect, the wiimote would have had a bigger impact than just a resolution bump.
The Wii U might get a replacement as early as holiday 2016 or as late as 2018. I think the PS4 and XB1 will have replacements around 2018 and 2019.
I agree with some of what you're saying but Nintendo use to set the trends. Last gen they made motion control the gimmick of the 7'th gen and pretty much only the wii u and the gamecube didn't set staples for the gaming industry. I completely agree with nintendo just releasing a 4K console wouldn't do anything. they would have to market it well. If they did it just right I could see them becoming king again, I mean if you could get your first party nintendo games on the most powerful gaming system and third party games then gg. Nintendo could easily take over the competition if they follow with that idea, a powerful console with amazing games will equal sales.
It could work, but I personally just somewhat doubt it.....the Wii bucked the trend by a new controller input and method, not by specs......they market, the one of hardware and AAA has been dominated by the PC, Sony, and Microsoft for years. The last time that Nintendo was succesfuk in selling it's graphical prowlness was during the N64 days, and it worked in that smaller market (GCN was no slouch but the market emphasis was not as much on graphics as it was for the N64).
Either way, that's almost 20 years ago. The wiimote unveiling was a bigger seller for Nintendo than any resolution bump, and that odd situation still stands.
Not saying Nintendo couldn't rise like a phoenix and recapture the core marker, but as the years tick by, it's more and more less likely.
Nintendo has just made the jump to HD, so what makes you think there next system will be 4K ready? Nintendo, Sony & Microsoft are not going to be making console's 4K ready until it's in every home replacing HD, and that's a long time off yet.
4K is rapidly becoming pretty big. I think nintendo is going to go all out with their next console, I strongly believe it will support 4k.
Problem with Nintendo releasing first is if they come out with guns blazing, Sony and Microsoft will simply bring bigger guns the following year. Repeat of Wii U ensues (though not as bad).
Nintendo has just made the jump to HD, so what makes you think there next system will be 4K ready? Nintendo, Sony & Microsoft are not going to be making console's 4K ready until it's in every home replacing HD, and that's a long time off yet.
The 360 and PS3 were HD, and people didn't get HDTVs until 2008/2009.
Problem with Nintendo releasing first is if they come out with guns blazing, Sony and Microsoft will simply bring bigger guns the following year. Repeat of Wii U ensues (though not as bad).
That's true but who knows if sony and microsoft will even release a home video game console. Nintendo might be the only company that makes system for games.
Problem with Nintendo releasing first is if they come out with guns blazing, Sony and Microsoft will simply bring bigger guns the following year. Repeat of Wii U ensues (though not as bad).
If they could get as close of not even with the next set of consoles it wouldn't be as bad indeed!
Nintendo has just made the jump to HD, so what makes you think there next system will be 4K ready? Nintendo, Sony & Microsoft are not going to be making console's 4K ready until it's in every home replacing HD, and that's a long time off yet.
4K is rapidly becoming pretty big. I think nintendo is going to go all out with their next console, I strongly believe it will support 4k.
It would be good if they do, but I've looked at it when Sony & Microsoft went from SD-HD at the time HD was taking over. And then development time & cost both where affected going from SD-HD, also this extra cost gets past down to us the customer. I think only when 4K is affordable to your average customer, that's when that'll make the jump.
Nintendo has just made the jump to HD, so what makes you think there next system will be 4K ready? Nintendo, Sony & Microsoft are not going to be making console's 4K ready until it's in every home replacing HD, and that's a long time off yet.
The 360 and PS3 were HD, and people didn't get HDTVs until 2008/2009.
HDTV's was on the market before we even seen the PS3/360, by the time the PS3/360 came out HDTV's where falling in price and taken over.
It's hard to say what Nintendo will do. I do think they'll retire the Wii name, as the confusion between this console and the last has hurt the company in sales.
However, Nintendo for the past two consoles has been uninterested in higher specs for their consoles. I think Nintendo missed the boat with the original Wii and not supporting 720p/1080p gaming. The good news is that the Wii U really got it right. Games Nintendo pumps out look gorgeous. They are 1080p and 60FPS as well, something that realistic games on Xbox One really struggles with. As far as I am concerned, the Wii U's specs is all that's needed for Nintendo to fully explore 1080p with their games and the specific art style they want to use. They have the best artists in the business.
To me that puts Nintendo in a spot. Why build a more powerful 1080p based machine? What more can be gained by utilizing something as powerful as a PS4? Nintendo doesn't need to build a super machine to make 4k Mario games. On the other hand, Nintendo has been interested in peripherals and other ways to interact with their games. Perhaps VR, an expansion of the motion controls and touch screen gaming. Maybe Nintendo is interested in turning their next console in a base station, where the next DS streams directly from it. That seems more likely than 4k, but Nintendo could definitely do it.
4K is rapidly becoming pretty big. I think nintendo is going to go all out with their next console, I strongly believe it will support 4k.
Not a chance.
Let's say the next Nintendo console is out in 2018. Probably generous, but let's go with that. 4K gaming will probably not even be the universal norm for PC gaming in 2018, let alone console gaming. 4K still has a tiny market share, even in North America. Analysts are predicting that it will command a 10% market share in 2018 and don't expect it to have market dominance until well into the 2020s. To compare, HDTVs had a 29% market share and growing fast in 2006 when the Xbox 360 and PS3 came out.
And thanks to Sony going "all out" with the PS3, it's possible that no console manufacturer will ever do it again. It's become an industry cautionary tale, just like the Saturn and Dreamcast. The amount of money that the PS3 lost is staggering and unbelievable. Billions, yearly. Even $600 at launch, they were losing money on every console sold. It's a good thing the software sold well, because I'm pretty sure that the PS3 never did recuperate its losses in hardware. That's why the PS4 is such a safe machine. It's basically just a old PC with a proprietary OS.
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