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NaviAndMii

I have to say, I agree with the OP here...

On the Nintendo UK store, they're charging the same amount for DK:Tropical Freeze (WiiU port) as they are for Super Mario Odyssey (AAA Switch game) - £49.99 - which just seems all shades of wrong to me...

As far as I'm concerned - brand new, top tier, AAA games justify top dollar pricing (eg. Smash Bros Ultimate, £59.99) - brand new, second tier, 'AA' games are usually priced around £49.99 (eg. Super Mario Party) which, again, feels fair...but asking for £50 for a last-gen port just feels a little on the cheeky side if you ask me.

They're not all like that - Captain Toad Treasure Tracker (Switch) is currently listed for £34.99, which actually seems like a bit of a steal! ..but I wouldn't expect to pay the same (if not more) for a slightly reworked 'drag and drop' of a WiiU game as I would for a brand new, first-party Switch title - those games do seem to be priced a little too highly for what they are (no matter how good those games may be)

I'd have thought that something like this would've been a lot more reasonable:
£60 - AAA game
£50 - AA game
£40 - WiiU port
...their AAA pricing is fair, their AA pricing is fair - but their pricing for WiiU ports seems (generally) a little on the high side, in my opinion - that's just my 2¢ though!

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MysticGengar wrote:

My god can you just stop complaining about this already!? Just don't buy the game. Plain and simple. If you can't afford it, too bad. I didn't own a Wii U, so I'm grabbing many of these when they come out, or maybe around christmas time. I'm honestly just tired of hearing everyone complain about fully priced ports, when you should be thankful for them if you never got around to them the first time and now you (maybe) have more stuff to dive into.

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look, I still have my Wii U. I still use it. I have a lot of games that have been ported to the Switch. it would be pretty spendy for me to get ports of these games on the Switch. so you know what? I don't buy them! how easy is that?!

Nintendo don't owe you a thing.
Nintendo ain't your friend who's gonna cut you a deal on a game you want.
you don't have the right to lower-priced games just because you want them.

if video games is too expensive a hobby for you, then you should reconsider your hobby. lo siento mijo, but it be like that sometimes.

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Bunkerneath

@NaviAndMii Toad Treasure Tracker is only £30 on Amazon UK,
In regards to DK:TK, the Wii U version is £22.59 but switch version is £44
The whole thing is nuts especially when it comes to ports/downloads/physicals

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MysticGengar

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For me, it's hard to go anywhere without seeing people complaining about the price. Every comments section on a remaster or a port, all I can see most of time is people complaining on how NSMBUD is a waste of money, cash grab, etc. I'm honestly just tired of hearing it. Just don't buy the game and let everyone else enjoy it. It should be that simple.

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Mountain_Man

CharlieSmile wrote:

if something is too expensive, you could always not buy it 🤷‍

Or buy it used later. That's how I got Super Mario Odyssey for $10 less than its new price.

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Harmonie

Bolt_Strike wrote:

At least the ports give you a decent sized game for $60. In that case, it's only really not worth it if you haven't played the game before. What's really not worth $60 is LGPE. A barren, casualized, mobile esque game like that is in no way worth $60.

LGP/E is, indeed, terrible and should have never been anywhere near $60. Even $30 would be asking too much for LGP/E.

...However, if we're talking about NSMBU Deluxe here, I'm pretty confident in saying that even LGP/E justifies a higher price. NSMBU Deluxe is a port of a game that already feels like a port of a game before it which felt like a port of the game before it and so on and so on. Imagine a port of Pokemon LGP/E costing $60 and we'd be nearing a comparison here, but at the very least LGP/E is an originally developed game. A very cheaply done one from thought to execution, but still a level above NSMBU Deluxe.

The original NSMBU was already so port-like. The game came bundled with my Wii U and I couldn't even play through it, it was so boring. To see a rerelease of it going for $60 is just so... It's horrible. But I find it strange that I just can't muster the frustration for it that I thought would be inevitable. It's like how I felt with Nintendo's numerous unnecessary handheld redesigns. It was frustrating, but then when the New 2DS XL was announced, all I could do was laugh. It was so absurd. To watch a company go to such a level that it is at the level of parody, it becomes amusing.

Perhaps it's also because I know that Nintendo has Animal Crossing and the real Pokemon game up their sleeves this year and they got let off the hook with me... For now. But their overpriced ports that never reduce in price will never not be a bad thing and I'm sticking with that.

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Agriculture

JackEatsSparrows wrote:

There's some issues here.
1) The games on PS4 (and Xbox) that typically drop in price quickly are not first-party games. The first party titles that do reduce in price typically don't retain such strong full-price product movement as Nintendo's first party at full price.
2) PS4 came out November 2013. Switch came out March 2017. That's almost 3 1/2 years to have a larger library of titles to reduce in price over time.
3) Attachment rates DO matter from a business perspective, as you actually said ("games are supposed to sell consoles"). An attachment rate of 80% means that 8 out of 10 people owning a console bought a specific title, where 40% means only 4 out of 10 bought it.

Just...don't buy it if you think it's not worth it. That's not a weird way to look at it, that's the common sense way.

1. I'm not saying Nintendo games don't sell at full price, I'm saying the Switch gets a reputation as an expensive console to play on because you have to pay full price very often. The PS4 on the other hand has a reputation of being a console where you can find bargains.

2. This is completely irrelevant. The market forces don't care about excuses. This is just a narrowing down of the reason why the console market has so few companies competing, because it takes time build up a brand and a console. The Switch is a console from the same generation that the PS4 and Xbox One, just like how the PS3 lost a year to the Xbox 360, the Switch has lost 4 years.

3. Selling 3 million copies of a game is the same amount of profit regardless if the console it's on has sold 6 million or 12 million units. Attachment rates can be a good indicated on how successful a game is, but it doesn't affect the profits. The amazing attachment rate of Breath of the Wild didn't make more profitable than competing multiplattform games with higher sales.

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Yorumi

The question is ultimately a big "what if", and I think Nintendo does deserve some scrutiny. Is nintendo's current position related to their unwillingness to be competitive? Basically are their prices driving people away? Consider the 3ds following the most successful portable console ever couldn't actually outsell the ps4. Typically portables beat home consoles pretty well. Switch will get a bump from AC and Pokemon for sure but 3ds has always had those so I'll be surprised if it actually beats the 3ds in lifetime sales.

Nintendo has largely gone for the squeeze blood from a stone strategy, which is working for now but how much longer? Sure they can get people to repeatedly buy the same game but will that keep working? It largely works because no one bought the wiiU. So do they basically have to go through repeated cycles of failure and success? Considering the ps4 numbers, xone numbers and steam numbers there are a lot of gamers out there that nintendo isn't reaching.

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shaneoh

CharlieSmile wrote:

Nintendo don't owe you a thing.
Nintendo ain't your friend who's gonna cut you a deal on a game you want.
you don't have the right to lower-priced games just because you want them.

We don't owe Nintendo anything either. Difference is that our financial future isn't reliant on Nintendo. If they want our money they have to sell us on a product.

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Agriculture

CharlieSmile wrote:

if video games is too expensive a hobby for you, then you should reconsider your hobby. lo siento mijo, but it be like that sometimes.

I have a PS3, PS4 and a Switch. Initially I was going to phase out my Playstation consoles by always buying the games on Switch, and even re-buying some games like Final Fantasy X, which I have on PS3. I've been drifting more and more towards the two Playstation consoles, since they have much better prices. I would be okay with paying a little bit extra to get a game on Switch, but not full price for ports of 2D plattformers.

Plattforms like Steam shows that low prices is a recipe for success, and the Wii U shows Nintendos strategy isn't very good. One of the core reasons to build up a library of games to a console is so that older and cheaper games exist for consumers to buy. If you pick up an Xbox One S today, you can get a fairly good selection of games with it for not that much money. If you pick up a Switch today you have to pay a significant amount of money to get a good selection of games with it.

You also seem to think the market is a constant thing, and that Nintendo can just keep this up forever. They are already losing momentum with Switch sales and need to re-think their policy of releasing ports for full price. When all of these ports were announced, I wanted to buy them, but now that everything is full price, and games like Mario Tennis and Kirby Star Allies gets criticized for having too little content for full price games, I have become much more skeptical towards the Switch.

The straw that could break the camels back would be if Nintendo finally released downloadable N64 games and they were more than 10 dollars (which is already twice of what Playstation chargers for their classic games!!!).

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AlohaPizzaJack

Buy what you want, skip what doesn’t appeal to you as a value. Vote with your wallet. That’s the story.

I’m sure that a corporation that has been selling video games for decades can handle it if folks wanna wait till a game is on sale to purchase it. It’s kinda what they do for a living.

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Dezzy

They're charging full price because they know there are a lot of people who didn't have the Wii U for whom these games will be essentially new.

Can't blame Nintendo for making self-interested business moves. Just don't buy it. Or go back and buy the Wii U version for a fraction of the price.

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Agriculture

I googled "switch games too expensive" and there's tons of people expressing such ideas. It's starting to become a problem if you want the Switch to be your main console. Thankfully, at least 3rd party games like Crash N Sane Trilogy costs a reasonable $40.

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GyroZeppeli

While I do agree that the price of these ports should be closer to $40, I also have to agree with the other party. For example, while I think that NSMBU: Deluxe is too expensive, I’ll still probably buy it because I didn’t have it before and haven’t played a NSMB game since DS.

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Bolt_Strike

Harmonie wrote:

LGP/E is, indeed, terrible and should have never been anywhere near $60. Even $30 would be asking too much for LGP/E.

...However, if we're talking about NSMBU Deluxe here, I'm pretty confident in saying that even LGP/E justifies a higher price. NSMBU Deluxe is a port of a game that already feels like a port of a game before it which felt like a port of the game before it and so on and so on. Imagine a port of Pokemon LGP/E costing $60 and we'd be nearing a comparison here, but at the very least LGP/E is an originally developed game. A very cheaply done one from thought to execution, but still a level above NSMBU Deluxe.

The original NSMBU was already so port-like. The game came bundled with my Wii U and I couldn't even play through it, it was so boring. To see a rerelease of it going for $60 is just so... It's horrible.

Maybe if you played the original NSMBU, but to people that haven't, you're getting a full game you've never played before. But regardless of whether you've played LGPE, the game just doesn't have much period. So LGPE is worth even less.

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kkslider5552000

Yorumi wrote:

Nintendo has largely gone for the squeeze blood from a stone strategy, which is working for now but how much longer? Sure they can get people to repeatedly buy the same game but will that keep working?

Considering both Minecraft and GTA 5 are still selling, plus the entire COD series, plus annual roster update sports franchises, plus much of Nintendo's games in general...yes. Not automatically but a lot of the times if they market it right, yeah. It will.

For the record though this entire concept is inherently flawed since consumers have decided that "combining a couple of last gen games for current console/s" is a trend worth supporting this entire generation, so obviously Nintendo can pull it off because so many others have. The fact that it's 60 dollars means maybe it will be somewhat less successful, but it is not actually unusual. Nintendo does sometimes refuse to sell games for cheaper to maybe their detriment but NSMBU is not actually a good example of that when it actually is following a current trend of game re-releases. On the same console where you can buy Skyrim or Minecraft for the 8th time.

this would be like complaining about street fighter ports being too expensive on switch and you blamed it only on the collection instead of when they released Ultra Street Fighter 2 on its own for 40 bucks

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Yorumi

kkslider5552000 wrote:

For the record though this entire concept is inherently flawed since consumers have decided that "combining a couple of last gen games for current console/s" is a trend worth supporting this entire generation, so obviously Nintendo can pull it off because so many others have.

I don't disagree, though that is partly what annoys me about it somewhat. I know this is kind of complaining about how people spend their money but it does affect all of us. It seems like thre's a segment of the gaming population that just supports the absolute worst practices in the industry. Granted ports aren't the end of the world or anything but as you mentioned the $60 roster updates, the annual COD game, paid online etc.

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electrolite77

Nintendo keep their prices high deliberately. They aren’t entering the race to be bottom that’s taking place on other formats and there’s merit in that.

When people buy a Nintendo game they know that, most of the time, it isn’t going to drop in price hugely. There’s no point waiting for a price drop , just buy it without worrying you’re going to be kicking yourself when 50% falls off its price in 2 months.

They also maintain their resale/trade in value for a long time which is a plus.

They keep the perceived value-the image-of their products high too.

Different strategies work for different companies. Activision/EA/Ubi Soft drop their prices quickly because they’re looking to make money from MTX. Nintendo aren’t. Their own software is their main profit stream.

I’m not even saying that Nintendo are right to do it this way but maybe be careful what you wish for.

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@electrolite77 Tbh as someone who games on PC regularly, the race to the bottom pricing and "your games aren't worth anything" mentality gamers were conditioned to have after Steam really hurts the value of games imo. Now people expect to not buy games at launch because you save so much money and frustration (if the game is buggy), then pick them up for cheap way later. And if they ever pick up a game for $60, they always want it to last some huge amount of time. Like seriously, God of War 2018 went on sale for like $20-30 during Black Friday and that was around six months old. There's being consumer friendly, but at times I feel like sometimes it's a bit too consumer friendly and feeds into unrealistic expectations.

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