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DefHalan

@Project_Dolphin innovation is fine, but not having the basic modern features, such as a good online system, then Nintendo can't expect a modern audience. Technology moves forward and Nintendo needs to keep up with the basics to stay in the game. Innovate all they want, but provide the basic features people expect.

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DefHalan

@Project_Dolphin if they are missing features that people ciew as standard now then they won't be able to address a large market. Wii U's lack of basic online functions, like party systems and chats, hurt it. Nintendo can't let that happen again

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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CanisWolfred

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@Octane I don't see how can you say there was a lack of advertisement considering they also released a movie in same time to push it as a multi media franchise. Which failed too. Now Insomniac need to make licenced Spiderman games.
Also one million isn't really big sales, especially on PS4. Bayonetta 2 did similar sales and it was considered a failure. And I'm prety sure Ratchet was a much more popular franchise to begin with, with a much larger target audience considering its rating.

The game was made to promote the movie, and I remember seeing a lot more adds for the movie than the game...though, it was hard to keep up. They seem to have used the same engine for both the game and the movie, since they look exactly the same. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if much of the game was made using scraps from the film, especially since the game was apparently only about 8 hours long (about 30% longer than Quest for Booty, which was a $15 download filler to tide the fans over during the wait between Tools of Destruction and A Crack in Time. Also not much longer than Into the Nexus, which was also a budget title, and was billed as something of an intro to a Trilogy that never was, since this new one is a reboot). It's a miracle it's as polished as it is, and a million is probably pretty good when they're clearly banking on the movie being more successful.

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A system wholly reliant on cloud-computing that cost more than $100 (but I'd still buy it for Zelda...)

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DefHalan

@Project_Dolphin when did I say they should release a cookie cutter system?

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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DefHalan

@Project_Dolphin every system is different in certain ways, whether it be software or hardware based, even Xbox 1 and PS4 have differences in features. So Nintendo will stand out in some way and I do expect some sort of "wow" feature, but they still need to provide what people expect in a system to some degree.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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TheMisterManGuy

@Octane innovation requires both equally. Some of the most innovative games wouldn't have been possible the same way without innovative hardware.

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MisterPi

The thing about Nintendo is that they don't really innovate anymore. They make something quirky, then the next generation make something completely different instead of building and refining the idea. Perhaps if they actually stuck to their ideas for more than one generation, they'd be considered innovative. But as it stands, I doubt the gamepad will be the main form of input in the NX.

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TheMisterManGuy

@Octane Star Fox for example, wouldn't have been possible without the Super FX for example. In terms of input, Super Mario 64 wouldn't have been the same way without the N64's dedicated camera buttons and analog stick.

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DefHalan

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The thing about Nintendo is that they don't really innovate anymore. They make something quirky, then the next generation make something completely different instead of building and refining the idea. Perhaps if they actually stuck to their ideas for more than one generation, they'd be considered innovative. But as it stands, I doubt the gamepad will be the main form of input in the NX.

I am hoping for a new Wii Remote Revision. The next stage of motion controls, with enough inputs to mimic a standard controller. Refine what made the Wii so appealing while advancing it and making it better for developers and consumers alike (GamePad could still be supported, for a few games at least for Off-TV play)

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People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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DefHalan

@Project_Dolphin Ok, what does that have to do with what I was saying? They don't need to have a cookie cutter console but they do need to have standard features that people expect. Better online services than Wii U is a big one.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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Octane

@TheMisterManGuy Sure, but those approaches to development are a lot different than their recent approach. ''We've got this GamePad, what can it do and what franchise can it be used with?'' In the case of Zero. The problem is where the focus lies on. It feels as if some Wii U games had these ideas shoehorned into them to justify the hardware. Take the levels in 3D World that require the GamePad for example. Sure, they're neat, but completely unnecessary. Star Fox Zero could have worked just as well without the gimmicks, or could have at least supported an additional control scheme. There's this concept that everything has to be ''innovative'' and different when it doesn't always have to be that way. Look at the new Zelda game for example. It manages to be completely different from any of the previous entries and it doesn't even utilise the GamePad. In the end, the GamePad was an expensive idea that didn't pay off. I'm not against new buttons or whatever, as long as it's not holding back the hardware. Those rotary shoulder buttons Nintendo patented a while back? If they actually work, I'm all for it. The DS4 includes a touch pad and it has been used in some novel ways in a couple games; great! But these are not expensive ideas or completely different approaches to game controls.

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DefHalan

Project_Dolphin wrote:

I'm saying don't be surprised if the NX has whatever basic features you're looking for but still gets panned by some gamers because of other console features.

It is possible

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TheMisterManGuy

@Octane I agree with you on the Gamepad, it feels like that device was just slapped together to try and solve a problem that doesn't even exist. It has some great ideas behind it, but it's bloated with too much useless technology and is just way more complicated than it really should be. Whatever the NX's Gimmick is, it needs to address a problem that actually exists. The N64 analog stick solved a problem, the DS touchscreen solved a problem, the Wii Remote solved a problem, the Gamepad just creates more problems than it solves.

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blaisedinsd

There is no deal to be broken for me.

They need to sell me on this thing and they haven't even tried at this point and the rumours all seem like trash to me.

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skywake

From the start I said I wanted the NX to be a portable that was a significant upgrade from the 3DS. Specifically something that would be somewhere around 60-80% as powerful as the Wii U. I was fine with the idea of that. I argued with quite a few people on these forums about how the NX could be a portable. But then it became clear that the NX would be running BotW and I threw that wish out the window.

So I turned to the home console space where performance gains would be easy. 2-4x as powerful as the Wii U was what I expected. Possibly a bit more if they can take advantage of this new generation of GPUs. But then followed by a new portable within a year because the 3DS really is getting old.

Turns out it's both, kinda. It's a portable system that is going to replace the 3DS. Regardless of what anyone might say about this being a different thing. But it's also powerful enough that you can plug it into your TV and it's an upgrade from the Wii U. Put Animal Crossing, Mario Kart, Pokemon and Zelda on it? I don't know why anyone wouldn't be hyped about it.

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Luffymcduck

If the system memory is something like 32 GB as with Wii U, that might be a huge deal breaker for me. Games nowadays get so many updates and extra content that a large amount of system memory is a necessity.

But if it works like 3DS, I wouldn't have to buy an external harddrive (and something to power it up) but could instead use a large SD card. How much memory can those hold these days?

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shaneoh

Luffymcduck wrote:

But if it works like 3DS, I wouldn't have to buy an external harddrive (and something to power it up) but could instead use a large SD card. How much memory can those hold these days?

Looking on ebay, there are some 128gb micro SD cards going for ~$70 Australian. You'd need an adaptor, but a portable harddrive might be better value, depending on game size and whether you're happy to lug one about. Or physical might be a better option than digital

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