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141. Posted:

I'm not sure who said "universally hated" as I can't find what post I said that in ( I don't think I did), but universally is a big word meaning a big thing. I said majority and the GameFaqs board is a great example of this.

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Looking at the first page of a dead board only indicates that the people who loved the game are still around along with hard headed haters. The user reviews are a great indication of my point.

The majority of people who played it, thoroughly disliked Other M.

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142. Posted:

6.7 isn't majority disliked. That's still a passing grade.

And I'd argue that at least half of the negative reviews didn't even talk about gameplay before going in and reading anything, but that's not worth arguing.

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143. Posted:

Chrono_Cross wrote:

I'm not sure who said "universally hated" as I can't find what post I said that in ( I don't think I did), but universally is a big word meaning a big thing. I said majority and the GameFaqs board is a great example of this.

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Looking at the first page of a dead board only indicates that the people who loved the game are still around along with hard headed haters. The user reviews are a great indication of my point.

The majority of people who played it, thoroughly disliked Other M.

The majority of people who bought the game aren't on message boards. They play it, think what they think on it, and move on. It's pretty hard to honestly say that more than 50% of people disliked a video game when we only have the paltry responces of a few thosand at best.

However, when user reviews are at 6.7 (meaning better than mediocre) then it's pretty hard to say that it's hated by the general gaming community.

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144. Posted:

CanisWolfred wrote:

...Anything else that's not GameFAQs. Seriously. I've been to a lot of forums. They still take the freakin' cake.

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The reader review average is 6.7/10 out of 82 reviews. That is also worth noting.

Not exactly flourishing with praise.

Not exactly flourishing with hate. A decidedly average, mediocre, lukewarm score, in fact.

Agreed. If it was, like an average 3.2, I'd see it, but a 6.7? That's pretty good for a game that's supposedly "divisive"...

Never been to GameFAQs, so I didn't know it was really that bad. My point is there's no Metacritic for the gaming community, so I'd argue we don't have any means to definitely judge the popular opinion.

Also, my (utterly unfounded) theory is that it is actually quite divisive, but the people who love it balance out the people who hate it, thus the lukewarm average.

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145. Posted:

CanisWolfred wrote:

...Anything else that's not GameFAQs.

I give you a random, reliable source, and it's not enough. Explore on your own. I'm not your chaperone.

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146. Posted:

Chrono_Cross wrote:

I'm not sure who said "universally hated" as I can't find what post I said that in ( I don't think I did), but universally is a big word meaning a big thing. I said majority and the GameFaqs board is a great example of this.

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Looking at the first page of a dead board only indicates that the people who loved the game are still around along with hard headed haters. The user reviews are a great indication of my point.

The majority of people who played it, thoroughly disliked Other M.

I was assuming the whole time that by universally we meant majority, as of course there's bound to be a fair amount of people with contrary opinions about everything.

Using the score you provided, it doesn't look like the majority thoroughly disliked it.

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147. Posted:

You might want to double check your definition of universally...

And while it wasn't explicit, it was implied that a vast majority - "The Gaming community at large" - consider the game to be among the worst imaginable. While I still think that's a stupid restriction to make, it is there. It still doesn't sound like that many people hate it that much.

I'm getting tired of this, though. I think I'll go make the thread that should've been made. I think it's been at least 6 months since we've last had it...

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148. Posted:

moomoo wrote:

The majority of people who bought the game aren't on message boards. They play it, think what they think on it, and move on. It's pretty hard to honestly say that more than 50% of people disliked a video game when we only have the paltry responces of a few thosand at best.

However, when user reviews are at 6.7 (meaning better than mediocre) then it's pretty hard to say that it's hated by the general gaming community.

I posted a source of a gaming community that caters towards the negative side of the game's reception. There's no way to survey every person who played the game, so there's that.

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moomoo wrote:

Chrono_Cross wrote:

I'm not sure who said "universally hated" as I can't find what post I said that in ( I don't think I did), but universally is a big word meaning a big thing. I said majority and the GameFaqs board is a great example of this.

@DarkKnight

Looking at the first page of a dead board only indicates that the people who loved the game are still around along with hard headed haters. The user reviews are a great indication of my point.

The majority of people who played it, thoroughly disliked Other M.

The majority of people who bought the game aren't on message boards. They play it, think what they think on it, and move on. It's pretty hard to honestly say that more than 50% of people disliked a video game when we only have the paltry responces of a few thosand at best.

However, when user reviews are at 6.7 (meaning better than mediocre) then it's pretty hard to say that it's hated by the general gaming community.

that's kinda stupid logic since the majority of people don't care enough to give their opinion on many things on the internet.

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150. Posted:

When the most negative average is a 6.7, that's not horrible. That's not among the worst at all.

Star Fox fans would probably put Assault (which direly needs a 3DS remake with better controls) among the worst, or even Adventures, but the reviews for both were middling-to-positive.

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151. Posted:

tl;dr version of the thread, people defending Metroid Other M without looking at valid reasons people hate it are equally as stupid as people assuming it objectively is all that awful beyond the story

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152. Posted:

Please address the 6.7 issue, Chrono, or I'm afraid that I'm going to start getting tired of this, too.

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153. Posted:

kkslider5552000 wrote:

tl;dr version of the thread, people defending Metroid Other M without looking at valid reasons people hate it are equally as stupid as people assuming it objectively is all that awful beyond the story

I think you might have a point in there but the lack of punctuation is making it hard for me to understand it.

Edit: Dang it, I double-posted. I was hoping that wouldn't happen.

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154. Posted:

All of this comes back to the fact that a game doesn't need to have a 1.0 score, or be glitchy, or have bad graphics, etc. to be considered among the worst games ever made.

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155. Posted:

DarkKnight wrote:

kkslider5552000 wrote:

tl;dr version of the thread, people defending Metroid Other M without looking at valid reasons people hate it are equally as stupid as people assuming it objectively is all that awful beyond the story

I think you might have a point in there but the lack of punctuation is making it hard for me to understand it.

Grammar and punctuation are not my biggest strengths I guess. Or bothering to use it to be exact.

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156. Posted:

DarkKnight wrote:

Using the score you provided, it doesn't look like the majority thoroughly disliked it.

Not everyone posted their opinion in a review format, though. I counted 33 reviews that were above a 7/10. I rounded the 6.7 up to a 7 and went on from there. So a little under 2/3 of those dedicated gamers, wrote a review of an average score or lower.

Now the reception in its entirety is a whole different story. We would have to read every topic and take notes of every type of response in order to get the answer we're looking for. I'm not sure about you, but that doesn't sound fun.

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All of this comes back to the fact that a game doesn't need to have a 1.0 score, or be glitchy, or have bad graphics, etc. to be considered among the worst games ever made.

Right. You and I (and many others), found Other M to be very disappointing and poorly developed. So much that we find it to be a terrible game. That's it. lol

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157. Posted:

Austroid wrote:

All of this comes back to the fact that a game doesn't need to have a 1.0 score, or be glitchy, or have bad graphics, etc. to be considered among the worst games ever made.

True, but under the rules of this thread it does have to be universally hated (or as Chrono would have it, "hated by the majority"), which is what we're debating.

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158. Posted:

Chrono_Cross wrote:

Not everyone posted their opinion in a review format, though. I counted 33 reviews that were above a 7/10. I rounded the 6.7 up to a 7 and went on from there. So a little under 2/3 of those dedicated gamers, wrote a review of an average score or lower.

Now the reception in its entirety is a whole different story. We would have to read every topic and take notes of every type of response in order to get the answer we're looking for. I'm not sure about you, but that doesn't sound fun.

There's also the possibility of people that make puppet accounts in order to rank something up. One reason I hate any form of voting on the internet.

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159. Posted:

Austroid wrote:

Chrono_Cross wrote:

Not everyone posted their opinion in a review format, though. I counted 33 reviews that were above a 7/10. I rounded the 6.7 up to a 7 and went on from there. So a little under 2/3 of those dedicated gamers, wrote a review of an average score or lower.

Now the reception in its entirety is a whole different story. We would have to read every topic and take notes of every type of response in order to get the answer we're looking for. I'm not sure about you, but that doesn't sound fun.

There's also the possibility of people that make puppet accounts in order to rank something up. One reason I hate any form of voting on the internet.

The exact same could be said towards hating it. People likely did it for Mass Effect 3 and DMC.

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160. Posted:

Chrono_Cross wrote:

DarkKnight wrote:

Using the score you provided, it doesn't look like the majority thoroughly disliked it.

Not everyone posted their opinion in a review format, though. I counted 33 reviews that were above a 7/10. I rounded the 6.7 up to a 7 and went on from there. So a little under 2/3 of those dedicated gamers, wrote a review of an average score or lower.

Now the reception in its entirety is a whole different story. We would have to read every topic and take notes of every type of response in order to get the answer we're looking for. I'm not sure about you, but that doesn't sound fun.

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All of this comes back to the fact that a game doesn't need to have a 1.0 score, or be glitchy, or have bad graphics, etc. to be considered among the worst games ever made.

Right. You and I (and many others), found Other M to be very disappointing and poorly developed. So much that we find it to be a terrible game. That's it. lol

You're right, it doesn't sound fun. Which is why I stated I think it's nigh-impossible to prove whether it was hated by the general gaming community. Agreed with you there. All you've proven is that more people in that thread hated the game than didn't. Also not sure why you brought up the 6.7 in the first place if you're now saying it's not important.

You and he and many others find it to be a terrible game. That is a proven fact. That in and of itself, however, doesn't means it's one of the worst games of all time.

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