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Tasuki

I still enjoy Disney movies from time to time. I really like Princess and the Frog. That one gave me the same kinda of fondness I had for Beauty and the Beast, Little Mermaid, Lion King and of course Aladdin. But as far as Disney Channel goes I think its total garbage I havent watched DC in years. I use to watch Toon Disney back when they showed the old cartoons like Ducktales and Talespin but once they left the rotation that was it. That doesnt bother me though since I bought Ducktales, Talespin and Darkwing Duck on DvD.

I love Tony Jay if its the guy I am thinking of, He did Shere Khans voice in Talespin and played Lex Luthors assistant on Lois and Clark the New Adventures of Superman. I just found out a few months ago that he passed away.

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DISNEY FAIL

The Disney we grow up with is dead, time to move on.

Disney is just full of over pay spoiled Teens, and Cartoons of Mickey will never come back.
A Matter of Fact, what cartoon do Disney have left on TV. other then Phineas and Ferb.

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JadeGirl wrote:

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JadeGirl wrote:

Wow can't belive you guys DISNEY ROCKS! Theres nothing wrong with Disney, and the Jonas Bros are so cute aand great sweet vocies! I wish I could kiss each one of them! Miley Cyrus rules! Disney is the best company out there. I like Disney better than before. If you want animated shows watch Disney XD.

I have no complaints!

JadeGirl.

WHY YOU LITTLE!

What? Disney Rules! There music RULES TO! And so is Nickoloden. I do miss the Lion King but I'm still happy.

And yeah a lot of girls watch Disney channel, Nickoloden, Abc Family like Smallvile, The Secret Life of the American Teenager and Pretty Little Liars.

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You see my avatar? THAT'S entertainment! Your mind, on the other hand, is being CORRUPTED!!!!!!
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I agree with you PunnyGuy. Disney Channel is corrupting the minds of the youth today with their garbage based productions.

If Walt Disney could awake from his grave and see the so called "Disney Channel" it would kill him all over again. In fact the horrible state of Disney Channel would kill him so hard that he'd never have a chance of reviving and setting things straight; and oh, how I wish that he could return and set things aright.

The programming airing on the Disney Channel as of today is nothing more than moral-lacking, brainless hogwash and it is so very not creative.

Uncle Walt Disney was all about creativity in his life time. Mickey Mouse was Uncle Walt's love, yea, the adorable Mouse was even to some degree Mr. Disney's very soul in a way and it would break his heart to awaken from his dreamless slumber of death to learn that his beloved Mouse has been relegated to the sands of time and replaced with a would-be pop star named Miley Cyrus who got on Disney Channel not in the name of talent but simply because her father is a music star and was able to pull some strings backstage and supposedly she is considered "beautiful and attractive" by some weak minded young men. Miley Cyrus isn't a role module in any sense of the phrase "role module" nor is she worthy of standing of standing before children no more than Britney Spears or Sylvia Saint as all three of the aforementioned women are walking the road to perdition. Miley Cyrus is simply treading down the same dismal and abysmal road that Lindsey Lohan is traveling. May God have mercy on their souls. I had really begun to like Lindsey Lohan after Herbie Fully Loaded and it saddens me to see her sorry state of affairs as it stands today.

The programs Suite Life of Zack and Cody, Hannah Montana, The Cheetah Girls, Cory in the House, That's So Raven, Sunny With A Chance, Good Luck Charlie, Camp Rock and High School Musical make my stomach churn and twist as if some unpleasant and vile stomach virus were about to take me on a roller coaster ride of misery. Those programs aren't even true Disney programs as they do not ring true to the "spirit of Disney" in any way at all. Anyone old enough to know the "Disney" of yesteryear will agree that the Disney Channel of today is not worthy of the title "Disney Channel" as it has so far departed from the "magic of Disney" and is now only a body without a soul or more precisely a House without the "Mouse".

Miley Cyrus isn't supposed to be the Disney mascot. Mickey Mouse is supposed to be the Disney mascot as he was indeed the "child" of Uncle Walt. Granted, Disney is trying to appease us by resurrecting the Mouse in the "Epic Mickey" Warren Spector project but that is not the same as abolishing the "Hannah Montana craze" and restoring Mickey Mouse to his rightful throne as king, wizard, "Steamboat Willie", and mascot of the Magic Kingdom. Howbeit, Epic Mickey is a step in the right direction.

Furthermore, I miss the Disney of my childhood. After I finish college perhaps I can take my art skills to Disney and help aid in the revival of the "Wish Upon A Star" Disney that my parents introduced me to as a child. It was because of Mickey Mouse and Mr. Disney's love for animation that I took such an ernest interest in drawing and animation, however, as the "magic" of Disney has grown ever so cold over the last few years thanks to rubbish like Camp Rock so to had my enthusiasm but now as I write this I can feel the anger within me boiling over into a fervor to ignite the flame that the House of Mouse gave me back in 1994 (I was born in 1988).

It's sad to see the death of traditional animation at Walt Disney. Sure, Pixar is nice and Tangled looks marvelous but Treasure Planet, Atlantis: The Lost Empire, Sleeping Beauty, Aladdin, Fantasia, Tarzan and One Hundred and One Dalmatians were masterpieces of traditional animation and that is simply an art of which we as a people of the earth cannot afford to lose nor can the Disney company afford to abandon that rich element of it's heritage and I believe that The Princess and the Frog was indeed a step in the right direction and I pray Disney will continue to strive to recover the glory days of old.

As for the Disney Channel and Disney XD, what shall one say? It is true that Disney XD has tried to retain the appeal of previous Jetix/ Toon Disney and it is indeed far better than the horrible line-up of programming airing on the Disney Channel. However, the company needs to heal the flagship channel by returning to programs that contain the "spirit of Disney" and will appeal to the whole family the way Uncle Walt and Guy Williams did with the legendary Zorro program. Disney had a good thing going with Kim Possible, American Dragon: Jake Long, House of Mouse, Bear in the Big Blue House and The Replacements but they seem to have abandoned ship. Disney Channel needs to return airing such programs like the five I just mentioned. Nevertheless there seem to be a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel with Avalon High and Fish Hooks cresting the horizon and the current mediocre Phineas and Ferb.

Not only has Disney been hijacked by wolves in the garb of sheep but so has Nickeledon with rubbish like Spongbob Squarepants, Back at the Barnyard, Drake and Josh and Victorious and so has Cartoon Network which is Cartoon Network in name only and not content. The former no longer airs the masterpiece "Avatar: The Last Airbender" or charming shows like Catscratch, Hey Arnold or As Told By Ginger nor does the latter have great shows like Teen Titans, Dexter's Laboratory and Jonny Quest; save for Star Wars The Clone Wars and Chowder. We must reclaim the wholesome goodness of yesterday. It's all that we have to give to the youth of tomorrow.

The best thing we as Disney fans can do is to not become complacent. We must voice our opinions and express our displeasure and utilize our democratic rights as Disney fans in order to save Disney Channel from become a channel of "every foul and unclean thing" of sorts because it isn't the Disney that you and I knew nor is it the Disney that Uncle Walt created and it is our duty as True Disney Fans to resurrect the Disney of yesterday in order that the children of tomorrow may Wish Upon A Star.

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@Tasuki: You are correct... he was in a bunch of other non-Disney stuff too -- Virgil in Mighty Max, Chairface Chippendale in The Tick, and Megabyte in ReBoot, for example. He had a wonderful voice.

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Yes. They've just been turned into a tweenage girls dream. Though Phineas and Ferb is decent, and I'll give Fish Hooks a try, because C.H. Greenblatt is working on it and he's one of my favorite people who work on cartoons along with Maxwell Atoms (who is also working on FH). And The Suite Life is the only thing that doesn't make me barf or commit suicide. @ToykoRed they do rerun those those, but like, really early in the morning.

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That pretty much says it for me. That, and the fact that there is exactly one channel that we have blocked through parental controls. If you haven't guessed yet, it starts with "Disney" and ends with "Channel." My kids never attempt to go to any other channel I might object to.

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ToadFan

Yes, its so weird to watch all the 7th graders having boyfriends and girlfriends just like on disney channel. O_o I mean they have to go in there parents car to the movies and be dropped off and they get money from there parents. I mean its like them and then you see like people who are like 18-23. People who are in my grade tho (6th) all the guys and girls are outside, doing homework, or on the computer. I think they don't know that this is not what really happens in high school. I mean you don't have like 20 minutes between classes. I have a older sister in High School who is going in 12th grade and like no one dates.
EDIT: Oh and Fish Hooks is going to be like all the other stuff on disney channel like dating. But it should be like Phineas & Ferb too. Time will tell.

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Shane904

Bulbasaurus Rex wrote:

I disagree (partially). For one thing, you can't find any family-friendly sitcoms outside of Disney Channel and Nickelodeon anymore. That's a huge disppointment which just leaves me with "Law and Order: SVU" and "Smallville" (now that Numb3rs is gone) to watch on primetime network TV this year. Back to Disney Channel, their top animated series, "Phineas and Ferb," is genius, and their prevoius one (Kim Possible) wasn't far behind. Now "Jonas (L.A.)" is pretty dull and "Good Luck, Charlie" could be better, but "Hannah Montana," "Wizards of Waverly Place," and "Suite Life on Deck" are great shows, and "Sonny with a Chance" is pretty good, too.

Now Disney XD has really disappointed me. "Aaron Stone" and "The Spectacular Spider-man" were really good, but they've both been canceled after just two seasons of each (or so I've heard), meaning the only show left on there that I care about (other than the occansional "Phineas and Ferb" rerun) is "Naruto Shippuden." (Yes, I know Naruto and Spect. Spider-man aren't actually Disney-made cartoons, but they still make the decisions on what to show and when to cancel them).

I will also admit that some of their live-action movies of late have been pretty disappointing (Disney Channel original movies included; personally, I've never understood why the "High School Musical" movies and "Camp Rock" have been as popular as they are), and their animated movies (when not distributing for Pixar) aren't in the same league as they were in their glory days in the 90s, although "The Princess and the Frog" was a step in the right direction.

Also, licensed Disney video games used to be a big exception to the "lack of quality licensed video games" tendency, but they've fallen back to the pack (or whatever a group of turtles or sloths are called) in that regard.

Anyway, in some ways Disney stills shows quality and promise, but they've hit a pretty big bump in the road over the last 15 years.

(By the way, I am not a kid. I'm 26.)

EDIT: By the way, I never cared much for those classic cartoons (or Warner Brothers' classics), anyway. I prefer cartoons where they at least try to do a decent job of following the laws of physics (mostly action cartoons).

I have to agree with just about all of this.

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JadeGirl wrote:

What? Disney Rules! There music RULES TO! And so is Nickoloden.
JadeGirl.

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BulbasaurusRex

Look, I agree with you guys about not caring for most of the singing and dancing that Disney Channel uses (including the High School Musical and Camp Rock movies), but when you look at most of the sitcoms themselves (Hannah Montana, Suite Life on Deck, Wizards of Waverly Place, and Sonny with A Chance), they're really good shows (and other than Jonas, my least favorite, they don't include that much singing and dancing in the episodes themselves). Also, iCarly on Nickolodeon is another really good one. They harken back to the 90s when we had good family-friendly sitcoms like Full House, Home Improvement, Boy Meets World, Family Matters, and Step by Step. Besides, TV sitcoms have always had those unrealistic qualities of high school.

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Bulbasaurus Rex wrote:

Also, iCarly on Nickolodeon is another really good one.

I watch that for one reason: Spencer. That actor is hilarious. He was the funniest person on Drake and Josh as Crazy Steve, also. I think he has the potential to be huge if he got away from Nick.

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@Bulbasaurus Rex: sorry, but give me the good old-fashioned ABC Disney Afternoon lineup anyday over every single show you just rattled off. why they can't make shows like those anymore instead of live-action tweenybopper BS is beyond me.

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Bulbasaurus Rex wrote:

Look, I agree with you guys about not caring for most of the singing and dancing that Disney Channel uses (including the High School Musical and Camp Rock movies), but when you look at most of the sitcoms themselves (Hannah Montana, Suite Life on Deck, Wizards of Waverly Place, and Sonny with A Chance), they're really good shows (and other than Jonas, my least favorite, they don't include that much singing and dancing in the episodes themselves). Also, iCarly on Nickolodeon is another really good one. They harken back to the 90s when we had good family-friendly sitcoms like Full House, Home Improvement, Boy Meets World, Family Matters, and Step by Step. Besides, TV sitcoms have always had those unrealistic qualities of high school.

True. Still, not any of us said that those of which you spoke were "bad" but it simply isn't the spirit of Disney, all save for Wizards of Waverly Place which contains a nice drizzle of the pixie dust and the "magic of Disney" within. However, Disney is still on the slide and that cannot be denied in any fashion. Disney Channel needs to return to the "magic" of Disney's heritage and I think that the executives of Disney are beginning to realize that and Phineas and Ferb, Avalon High and Fish Hooks are steps back toward the real Disney of yesteryear and not this fake, smiley, teenage dating, sentimental and musical wanna be a pop star soap opera-esque syndrome of an entrapment that the Disney Channel has fallen into right now.

Disney is already losing ground to DreamWorks Animation and Disney seriously needs to take more than couple of steps back from all of this pig slop Camp Rock stuff and move back toward sincere quality entertainment. Disney has so much at their disposal that they are not utilizing right now. They could create a wonderful television series out of Spectrobes and most importantly Kingdom Hearts could and should be gleamed for both a movie trilogy and an anime television series. I'd sit down and watch a Kingdom Hearts movie or TV show in a heartbeat. Disney Channel cannot survive off of live action immature girly sitcoms and not only that but it's unfair to Disney fans. Animation is a key element in Disney's history and there should be more quality animated programming as part of the Disney Channel airing roster. Uncle Walt is rolling in his grave at the very thought of his television channel being a immature girly television House of Miley Cyrus channel instead of the House of Mouse Disney Channel.

Disney Channel should also get a Epic Mickey tie-in television series. That would be a good way of helping to introducing Mickey Mouse to those children who THINK that Miley Cyrus and Nick Jonas are the Disney mascots. If only Disney would get their heads out of the sands of doom that Miley and the Jonas Brothers have smoothed the executives in and restore the Magic Kingdom from being the House of Miley and Rockers to being the "House of Mouse"! Until Disney restore the Disney Channel to being the House of Mouse the poor Disney Channel will continue to be a bedroom for immature girls.

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@lz2010: DuckTales is a classic! So is this:

Anyone else think the animation of cartoons in the past looks better than the animation of today's cartoons?

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These are the golden days of Disney:

Thanks for posting that! It's so refreshing to see something of substance!

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BulbasaurusRex

Ah yes, those Disney Afternoon cartoons take me back. Those were my weekday after school afternoons when I was a kid. My favorite ones were "Darkwing Duck" and "Gargoyles." I wish they still showed reruns of those shows on Disney XD like they did a few years ago when it was Toon Disney. (Strangely, I saw them not on ABC but on a syndicated channel that later became my local WB/CW network affiliate.)

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Bulbasaurus Rex wrote:

Ah yes, those Disney Afternoon cartoons take me back. Those were my weekday after school afternoons when I was a kid. My favorite ones were "Darkwing Duck" and "Gargoyles." I wish they still showed reruns of those shows on Disney XD like they did a few years ago when it was Toon Disney. (Strangely, I saw them not on ABC but on a syndicated channel that later became my local WB/CW network affiliate.)

That's exactly why I believe an Epic Mickey show is highly needed!

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