Topic: Wth Is WRONG With People???!!!!!

It's beyond selfish is what it is- to buy an item specifically released for the enjoyment of fans, and take that console from a fan in order to profit, simply because they know that person is willing to pay more.

I suppose people will pay more for water too. What if businesses started buying up the local supply and start charging $900 a bottle, cause ya know, supply and demand, right? Just cause you can charge more for something doesn't mean you should. I understand that some people are willing to pay outrageous sums but that doesn't justify taking advantage of them.

It's no different than the people who sell empty boxes for hundreds of dollars. Just cause someone's dumb enough to pay it doesn't justify doing it. I know it's hard to draw the line between what's acceptable and what's not, the question of how much is too much, but imo a little personal responsibility could go a long way here. Perhaps the golden rule, idk...

But what I do know is personal integrity has so gone out the window, like, taken a swan dive off the Empire State Building...

It's called supply and demand. If you want to blame someone, blame Nintendo for underproducing, and therefore forcing an astronomically high market price.

If someone sold it for 200$ it would sell ridiculously fast to the first user who found it, not the most interested party.

This is the simple law of Supply and Demand. What's crazy isn't that it's going for that price, it's that supply is low enough to warrant that price.

I totally agree with you but you are sort of yelling into the wind at this point. People have very little empathy for others. They feel that because they can they should and since they aren't, in their opinion, "forcing" someone to do something it is very easy to shift any emotional or moral culpability. In short...they are jerks.

I couldn't disagree more. This is not a simple "supply and demand" issue. This is a "resellers buying up vast majorities of stock and artificially constraining supply in the process, then utilizing that manufactured demand to take advantage of people" situation.

There's economics, and then there's morals.

What if there was an entire lake of water- enough that everyone could drink. But half the people buy up the lake and start charging $1000 a bottle of water. Would you say "oh well it's supply and demand"? I would hope not.

The issue here is also that this is not isolated anymore. It's gotten to the point EVERYONE wants to leech every last red cent they can from others- fair prices be damned.

If I had a bottle of water an you were thirsty, would it be "ok" for me to charge you the clothes off your back and sell you into slavery simply because I know the demand is high because you're dying of thirst?

Again, just because you CAN do something, doesn't always mean you should.

People are managing to make huge amounts of money with little initial investment - you can call that greed all you want but in the end people do what works. I'd be surprised if you thought this was one of the worst ways to make extra money. No, I'm not saying its ethical, but there's nothing to stop them, and just remember that there are people committed enough to buy this stuff for huge prices.

One problem with your little analogy is that this isn't something people need to live, its not even the only way to get the item - its a collectors item, an aesthetically different form of what is already available. Supply and demand doesn't stop being that simply because you find it unethical. People draw the lines at different places - you simply choose to place video game consoles on the same level as slavery and dying of thirst, which if I might say, is overreacting just a tad.

unfortunately this won't be like Metroid prime trilogy where all those jerks who were selling it for a high price, now face a collapsed demand for it now that it's available on the shop.The only solution is for nintendo to produce a crap ton of them to basically drive these idiots out of business.

Seems perfectly ethical to me.

A offers something for sale on first come, first served basis at a pre-determined price.

B buys x number of that being offered, on the basis that once the transaction is complete and they have the goods, they can do pretty much whatever the **** they like with them.

B decides to test the market to see how much others might pay.

C comes along and pays an agreed price.

I cannot comprehend what there is to complain about.

If Nintendo had any sense they'd create a shed load of Ebay accounts under other names and sell the limited edition stuff for the higher prices.

Or maybe that's already happening...

As they are buying the items purely to make money selling them, they are basically running a business, they should be paying taxes on the money they make but I bet they aren't.

By all means notify HMRC about it, but you're clutching at straws.

If you use an advanced search to check eBay for recently sold systems it shows that the average price is around $400-$500. There was one that sold for $10,000 and I'll bet you anything that was a fake bid. Nobody's going to pay that price.

Right. What caught my attention though was, well yes the sheer asking price, but also how many are asking $1000 or more. It used to be resellers asked a little on the high side, but in the last 90 days all of a sudden it's like asking 20x the MSRP caught on like wildfire. One person did it, people saw it and said hey, Ima try that too, then it just started multiplying and multiplying.

Up until recently the collector community was relatively fair and honest. But if this is a sign of things to come, I'll quit collecting.

But that's not what's happening. What's happening is that rather than having enough stock that the product is available for at least a day, the products are so limited in quantity that they are available for a few hours. There aren't more resellers for Nintendo products than for other things, it's just that other producers incorporate purchases from resellers into their initial stock.

http://www.dorkly.com/post/72115/how-to-release-a-product-nin...

If you're willing to quit a hobby because some people out there are willing to take advantage of it for money then prepare to have no hobbies.

Haha, great comic. Funny when people want to make an issue everyone's fault but Nintendo. I'm sure making these limited designs and deals available in very fews regions and in low quantities is best - it's what the people want! >.>

Nintendo releases these products so that the fans would feel rewarded with something that they could treasure. Instead, everyone just steals tons of them and sells them for 5-50 times the price in order to make a quick buck. This is unethical because it is unfair to those that can't afford the scalped prices and are unable to make a pre-order within the first 15 minutes where it would sell out immediately. My whole family was either at work or school. There is nothing that we could have done.

So why should these guys who don't even care about the New 3DS XL even bother buying the product? If able to, then I would have bought two copies just so I could sell it to a friend for a reasonable price. (~$210 including tax) I won't dare miss out on the Codename Steam model that will definitely come out soon!

The thing is, if people don't pay for it prices naturally come down to reflect that. Water doesn't work well as an example because it is a necessity to life, but a video game console is not. If Marvel decided to price tickets for The Avengers: Age of Ultron at $1000 it may sell a couple of tickets, but it wouldn't sell out theaters. Shortly after people skip out on the movie, the price would inevitably come down because it can't sustain a price as highly inflated as that. The people purchasing the 3DSes for $500 are just as guilty as the scalpers who in turn are just as guilty as Nintendo for not making enough stock.

But if there are more resellers, why? It's because Nintendo has made themselves a target by underproducing so severely that people see a lucrative opportunity.

Though I'm not necessarily sure there are more resellers. I think there is just too little production, such that everyone buys ASAP resellers and people who actually want it.

What if its nintendo who scalping under different names.......conspiracies