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Topic: Would the Playstation Phone be able to compete with the 3DS.

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WAM

61. Posted:

metakirbyknight wrote:

Okay. Have you played Chaos Rings? Infinity Blade was a bad example and may as well be a tech demo.

Yep, have too. Same with infinity blade, graphics are good, games bad. This is how I see the current gen of handhelds:
iPhone=PSX
DS=N64
PSP=Dreamcast

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62. Posted:

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You're insane. Chaos Rings was epic.

Here's how I see it. The Wii's weaker than iPhone. The DS's weaker than the iPhone. The PSP is weaker than the iPhone.

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Yes they are.

We need to stop kidding ourselves. The future is in the integrated device.

Did you not read the link? Jesus Christ, you think the devs that have the PSP2 kits would call the PSPhone "as powerful as the PS3"? The future of gaming is not in iPhones, Androids or any of that.

Yeah, I did. Nothing in that link says that they're different devices but the title. Plus, it's all speculation.

The future of gaming is in the the phone. Show me one portable game console as powerful as an iPhone 4 or HTC EVO 4G.

DID YOU REALLY JUST SAY THE PSP2 IS ALL SPECULATION? LOL. And no sorry, the future of gaming won't be on phones. Phone gaming sucks compared to actual gaming.

The entire article is speculation, as is the system itself until we have an official confirmation from Sony. Here is a quote taken strait from the article itself that proves that it is nothing but speculation.

"Of course we're talking about two devices that don't officially exist yet, so nothing is set in stone."

I agree with you that I don't personally care much for current phone games. Granted I do not have a very fancy phone, and thus can't say much for iPhone games and such. However, I must agree with metalkirbyknight that integrated devices are the future. Dedicated gaming systems are a dying breed. Just look at the current generation of home consoles: none of them are truly dedicated gaming consoles. They all serve other purposes besides just playing games. I would not be at all shocked if the PSP2 is the exact same thing as a PSP Phone.

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64. Posted:

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Not only will it be able to compete, it will CRUSH the 3DS with its mighty line-up of first party titles that are sure to keep it alive!!!

:D you right the PSP(insert name here) will beat the 3DS especially with zelda and Mario on sony's side

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I'd actually love a PSP Phone...

Dunno if I'm the only one, but my main problem with iPhone is garbagecontrol in 99% of cases, and while the PSP isn't exactly my favorite controller option, it's lightyears better than virtual everything and no tactile feedback.

Not to mention PSP games laugh in the face of iPhone games.

Granted, just because it appeals to me doesn't mean it's successful. I'm not exactly a large demographic....

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Yep, have too. Same with infinity blade, graphics are good, games bad. This is how I see the current gen of handhelds:
iPhone=PSX
DS=N64
PSP=Dreamcast

I guess that kinda makes sense....the DS and PSP, anyway...N64 made a lot of radical changes to the norm (analog sticks, control in general (think Mario 64 and Ocarina the first time you played them) and Dreamcast, while not doing too much of its own thing, did a fantastic job improving on things that were already done...they just didn't quite have the software support or the marketing.

the iPhone being the PSX though... That's got me lost. Given that it's much closer in power to the PSP than the DS....and it's not quite as proliferating a device as the DS in terms of users (at least I don't think it is)...I'm running our of parallels

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Not only will it be able to compete, it will CRUSH the 3DS with its mighty line-up of first party titles that are sure to keep it alive!!!

First-Party titles don't keep a system alive. If that's all it has going for it, that's a very bad sign. It's the third-parties that keep a system alive.

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Not only will it be able to compete, it will CRUSH the 3DS with its mighty line-up of first party titles that are sure to keep it alive!!!

First-Party titles don't keep a system alive. If that's all it has going for it, that's a very bad sign. It's the third-parties that keep a system alive.

Who needs third parties when there is Mario and Zelda and Fox and...oh wait, we're talking about the PSP? :O

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68. Posted:

metakirbyknight wrote:

@WAM

You're insane. Chaos Rings was epic.

Here's how I see it. The Wii's weaker than iPhone. The DS's weaker than the iPhone. The PSP is weaker than the iPhone.

I can't take this post seriously.
I know there are some iPhone fanatics but c'mon man!
With no analog sticks or buttons I dont consider the iPhone/iPad a gaming device even if it does have games.
I have a iPhone and all I have to say is most games suck! BAD!
Only games that are decent are simple swipe and point games buy still nothing great!
To each his own but that's just my 2 cents.

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From a technical standpoint, the iPhone actually is more powerful than a Wii. The processor is faster, it has more RAM, and they even have more internal storage space than the Wii. Don't get me wrong, I am a huge fan of the Wii and the DS, but the iPhone is, technically speaking, more powerful than either.

However, I also must say that power doesn't necessarily equal better gaming.

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WAM wrote:

metakirbyknight wrote:

@WAM

You're insane. Chaos Rings was epic.

Here's how I see it. The Wii's weaker than iPhone. The DS's weaker than the iPhone. The PSP is weaker than the iPhone.

The Wii is weaker than iPhone? K, I'm done arguing with a retard

He is not wrong. From a technical standpoint, the iPhone actually is more powerful than a Wii. The processor is faster, it has more RAM, and they even have more internal storage space than the Wii. Don't get me wrong, I am a huge fan of the Wii and the DS, but the iPhone is, technically speaking, more powerful than either.

However, I also must say that power doesn't necessarily equal better gaming.

100 % agree.
You can have all the power you want but it all comes down to gameplay and games to consider something average or great.
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The Wii is running on Broadway CPU which is clocked at 728MHz with 88MB of RAM. The iPhone 4's got an A4 chip at an unknown clock speed, but considering that the iPod touch 3G had an 833MHz processor, I can assume it's more powerful than that. And the iPhone 4 has 512MB of RAM.

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@WAM

You're insane. Chaos Rings was epic.

Here's how I see it. The Wii's weaker than iPhone. The DS's weaker than the iPhone. The PSP is weaker than the iPhone.

I can't take this post seriously.
I know there are some iPhone fanatics but c'mon man!
With no analog sticks or buttons I dont consider the iPhone/iPad a gaming device even if it does have games.
I have a iPhone and all I have to say is most games suck! BAD!
Only games that are decent are simple swipe and point games buy still nothing great!
To each his own but that's just my 2 cents.

Power =/= Great Games, but the iPhone is more powerful in almost everyway.

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72. Posted:

This is completely off-topic, sorry if I'm derailing the thread further, but I want to point out that comparing the Wii and Iphone processors by their clock frequency is a bit like comparing apples and oranges. The Wii processor is a PPC model and the Iphone(s) use different ARM-processors. Both are RISC-based, but the PPC is designed for performance and ARM is designed for low power usage. This, of course, varies with different models and might not always be true. And I also don't know the specific specs of any on the processors used in above mentioned devices, so I don't know which is faster. But it is very likely the Wii processor performs better even if it runs at a lower clock frequency due to it using a more efficient architecture.

Please don't take this as an argument, just as information. I know the Iphone(s) has more RAM, etc.
Either way, it's my firm belief that hardware really doesn't matter that much compared to skilled and efficient coding.

Back on topic, I think the big challenge Sony has to overcome if they want a Playstation Phone to succed as more than "just another smart-phone" is to make sure there are more than just the traditional "phone-style" games on it. There is a risk most developers just port over their standard smartphone games and stop there and if that happens I doubt it could take off as a competitor to 3DS at all. It needs bigger, more dedicated games which cannot be found on other phones.
Sorry if this has already been mentioned. I don't have time to read the entire thread now.

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73. Posted:

Don't underestemate sony.

they will throw in a high resolution screen ( HD ) dam high cloaked gpu and probably alot mem ontop of it.

They will launch probably all kinds of AAA products on it, to hype it up. Announce tons of bullshots. etc.

I wouldn't be suprised if sony actually waited 1 year to get the best hardware to date, in order to get a graphical leap.

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74. Posted:

It's a phone with PSP features.

Should I even bother to list all of what the 3DS can do?

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75. Posted:

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Sony Did, what Nintendon't

Nintendo did,what Sony don't

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I believe that if the Playstation Phone is a PSP with Phone functions like everyone is assuming (it could be a whole new console, you know), it will ultimately fall to the 3DS because the PSP hasn't been doing very well, and those that care about the PSP probably already have one and are the kind of people that can't be bothered to buy something new like this. To top that off, unlike a regular handheld, the Playstation Phone is bound to phone limits, meaning that anyone that wants one will either have to with until their existing phone contract expires or pay a pricy fee to cancel their contract early, and I can't imagine many doing the latter.

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Sony Did, what Nintendon't

Nintendo did,what Sony don't

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The PSP is indeed a poor performer. If there were more Ratchet and Clank games and more creative first party games on the PSP then I might have liked it a lot better. SONY simply doesn't have a good first party line-up for the PSP like Nintendo has for both the Wii and DS. Nintendo has Kid Icarus, Mario, Zelda, Pikmin, Metroid and of course the Mii game line (Wii Sports, Wii Party) while Sony has little to nothing. I can't imagine why SONY doesn't push their first party products like Hot Shots Golf, Ratchet and Clank or Daxter. The best PSP games that I've played are Daxter, Ratchet Clank: Size Matters and Hot Shots Golf: Open Tee 2.

The PSP Phone is a terrible idea and the Nintendo 3DS and iPod Touch are going to slay the PSP and the PSP Phone. Tis, sad indeed or is it?

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The PSP is indeed a poor performer. If there were more Ratchet and Clank games and more creative first party games on the PSP then I might have liked it a lot better. SONY simply doesn't have a good first party line-up for the PSP like Nintendo has for both the Wii and DS. Nintendo has Kid Icarus, Mario, Zelda, Pikmin, Metroid and of course the Mii game line (Wii Sports, Wii Party) while Sony has little to nothing. I can't imagine why SONY doesn't push their first party products like Hot Shots Golf, Ratchet and Clank or Daxter. The best PSP games that I've played are Daxter, Ratchet Clank: Size Matters and Hot Shots Golf: Open Tee 2.

The PSP Phone is a terrible idea and the Nintendo 3DS and iPod Touch are going to slay the PSP and the PSP Phone. Tis, sad indeed or is it?

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