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TheLilK98

61. Posted:

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If you agree, it doesn't matter, my opinion is still the dominant one.

I doubt you love KIU as much as I do.

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Controls - Awkward, to say the least. If any game on the system was crying out for dual thumbsticks it was this one.

Graphics - Awesome. This game really showed off what the 3DS was capable of. The 3D effect is also superb. It's still one of the nicer looking games on the system.

Sound - Music fits the scenes perfectly

Story - Alright. More than I expected, to be honest. I like the dark turn toward the end.

Voice-acting - Top notch, and probably my favorite part of the game. Unfortunately, the funny, witty banter kept distracting me from the frenetic action on-screen.

Multiplayer - Very fully-featured, both online and local. Several modes, and it seemed to work very smoothly when I used it.

Replayability - VERY high. Tons of stuff to do and collect in both single and multiplayer modes. The weapon system is awesomely complex.

It does so much right, and yet the game just isn't fun to play due to the controls.

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Even after all the heavy hitters this year its still the best 3ds game on the system. Nothing has knocked it off the top for me. As far as the story being short I guess its ones opinion but it has one of the longest stories I've ever seen outside of an rpg. The constant talking throughout was at times some of the funniest I've ever heard and I personally thought the voice acting was top notch! I can see why some didn't like it or had a difficult time with the controls but a lot of good games take time to learn and most people are lazy! Monster Hunter I'm looking at you!! Best presentation yet for any 3ds game. Fire Embelm comes close!!

Has nothing to do with laziness. Video games are primarily about entertainment, and any game with lousy controls isn't going to be very entertaining to most people. It's one of the most important aspects of a game.

Monster Hunter's underwater portion in the demo bordered on unplayable without the CPP. The land segments were doable, but still awkward.

Of course, lousy controls can be a very subjective thing. I've heard people complain about RE:R's controls sans the CPP, and yet I never once felt like I needed an extra circle pad.

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63. Posted:

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Controls - Awkward, to say the least. If any game on the system was crying out for dual thumbsticks it was this one.

I disagree. Dual sticks are not nearly as accurate as a stylus. The gameplay is too demanding for the speed Dual sticks can control at. it wouldn't have worked.

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64. Posted:

I had no problem with the controls, though I can understand why people did.

I had a problem with the constant, irritating voice acting. This is nothing againt the actual performances — which were solid — but I really, truly, genuinely don't need to hear this crap over what felt like every second of gameplay. Please...shut up and let me enjoy the actual game for a while.

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Philip_J_Reed wrote:

I had no problem with the controls, though I can understand why people did.

I had a problem with the constant, irritating voice acting. This is nothing againt the actual performances — which were solid — but I really, truly, genuinely don't need to hear this crap over what felt like every second of gameplay. Please...shut up and let me enjoy the actual game for a while.

For the record, once you complete the story mode you can turn the dialogue completely off.

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66. Posted:

WingedFish wrote:

Philip_J_Reed wrote:

I had no problem with the controls, though I can understand why people did.

I had a problem with the constant, irritating voice acting. This is nothing againt the actual performances — which were solid — but I really, truly, genuinely don't need to hear this crap over what felt like every second of gameplay. Please...shut up and let me enjoy the actual game for a while.

For the record, once you complete the story mode you can turn the dialogue completely off.

I'm aware. It's welcome, but it would have been around ten trillion times more welcome if I had the option to do so up front. Completing the game to unlock "Not Totally Annoying" Mode almost defeats the purpose of having it.

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Controls - Fine for the most part, don't like using the touchscreen to aim the crosshair so I changed to the A,B,X,Y buttons, but I wish you could use the second circle pad on the Circle Pad Pro for that.

Circle Pad Pro use - Disappointing. As far as I know, you can't set the right circle pad as a use for the crosshair (which in the land segments doubles as camera control), instead it serves the same function as the left circle pad.

Graphics/Performance - Well done for a 3DS game, albeit it isn't running at 60 frames per second IIRC.

Soundtrack - Fantastic. If there was a separate soundtrack CD available I would buy it in a heartbeat.

Online mode - Never been able to play that, it's a dead zone like Super Smash Bros Brawl's servers are nowadays.

Voice acting - As irritating as it could possibly be. The acting itself is fine, but somebody did the wrongheaded decision to have the characters talk ALL THE TIME!!! At best it's mildly annoying. At worst it's not only like a drill slowly going through your head, but completely inappropriate given the current situation. For example, the Chariot Master in chapter 19 somehow feels the need to narrate his life story or some crap WHILE you're in the middle of an intense fight with him! I'm sorry, but couldn't that have been saved for a cutscene? We won't be able to follow his story when our minds are on constant alert to avoid his attacks.

It doesn't help that half the time the dialouge is just bad puns or chit-chat that's completely irrelevant to the story and doesn't develop the characters in any meaningful way.

Story - Absolute pants. I give credit for subverting my expectations thinking that chapter 9 would be the last stage (few games manage to pull off such a trick succesfully) but past that the story dwells into insanity, and tries to find every contrived reason to make the game longer. By chapter 15 I could barely follow what was happening.

The point where I finally lost my damn patience however was chapter 18. You can't seriously have written something so contrived, so lazy and yet so WTF and then expect to get away with it. I have a lot of respect for Sakurai and his team (I still do), but I just couldn't take it anymore. Not only do I think it's the worst moment in the whole game, I think it's one of the worst moments in any game in recent years (and I'm DEAD serious about this)! And then there's that last-minute padding bull (i.e Chapter 24) which is a real pet peeve of mine, although it's nowhere near as bad as Brawl's Great Maze.

But I would be lying if I said I didn't play it until the end and hasn't grown an affection for the things the game tried to accomplish but ultimately botched. Even with its many faults I enjoyed it to an extent. It's nowhere near among the best 3DS games I own however.

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68. Posted:

I just wished the game gave more background on Pit's past. There should have been chapters dedicated to showing how Pit was when he was a human...before he became a Angel of the Light. I would've liked him alot more if the game did that.

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69. Posted:

Blastoise-san wrote:

I just wished the game gave more background on Pit's past. There should have been chapters dedicated to showing how Pit was when he was a human...before he became a Angel of the Light. I would've liked him alot more if the game did that.

I forgot to mention that. I agree, a backstory on Pit would actually be pretty interesting.

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70. Posted:

One of the 3DS' best, though the control scheme is not one that you can pick up and recall instantly; it takes a half-hour or so to get back into it. Not as good as Fire Emblem: Awakneing or Shin Megam Tensei IV, but it's up there.

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Red_XIII

71. Posted:

I love this game, though it's crying out for a jump button (Its platforming is weak)
Game can get a bit repetitious, would like the ability to wield multiple weapons.

Love weapon variety (this game does a fine line in LOOT)
Amazing online, though it needs capture the flag (It would work well with the games athletic style)

Love characters and story, it is rather funny, but it is also epic, especially at the end.

Combat is rather nuanced and enjoyable.

Level design leans a bit towards corridors.

9/10 for me.

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72. Posted:

cookiex wrote:

[The point where I finally lost my damn patience however was chapter 18. You can't seriously have written something so contrived, so lazy and yet so WTF and then expect to get away with it. I have a lot of respect for Sakurai and his team (I still do), but I just couldn't take it anymore. Not only do I think it's the worst moment in the whole game, I think it's one of the worst moments in any game in recent years (and I'm DEAD serious about this)! And then there's that last-minute padding bull (i.e Chapter 24) which is a real pet peeve of mine, altough it's nowhere near as bad as Brawl's Great Maze..

Are you kidding me??? That chapter was awesome and innovative. I loved playing as Magnus, and allying with Viridi lead to some amusing dialogue. Plus, fighting Palutena's forces is the games combat at its best. It also reveals a lot about pit's character. I agree with the ending being a bit padded, but still...

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73. Posted:

Happy. 9/10 game for me.

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Are you kidding me??? That chapter was awesome and innovative. I loved playing as Magnus, and allying with Viridi lead to some amusing dialogue. Plus, fighting Palutena's forces is the games combat at its best. It also reveals a lot about pit's character. I agree with the ending being a bit padded, but still...

It was the point where IMO the game's story completely lost its direction.

There is no reason for Pit to turn into a ring.
There is no reason for the game to do a three-year time skip (and without warning I might add).
There is no reason to have a pseudo-artistic opening with a girl and a dog and then never make use of them again.
The whole thing with the alien bug is a cheap way to make Palutena do a face heel turn without actually becoming evil and to make Viridi your new ally.

And it resulted in dragging the story out for another four chapters, as if the game hadn't already done that when those triangular alien thingies invaded.

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75. Posted:

@cookiex God forbid there be a plot twist.

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76. Posted:

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@cookiex God forbid there be a plot twist.

I don't think his concern is that there's a plot twist. It's pretty clear to me that his concern is that the plot twist felt poorly implemented and impacted his enjoyment of the game.

But that's what I get for reading the post instead of just responding dismissively to it, I guess.

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77. Posted:

Philip's correct, my concern isn't the fact that it was a plot twist (the game already had a plot twist in chapter 9 that I think was well done), it's that this twist had a flawed concept that was executed horribly.

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Red_XIII wrote:

Are you kidding me??? That chapter was awesome and innovative. I loved playing as Magnus, and allying with Viridi lead to some amusing dialogue. Plus, fighting Palutena's forces is the games combat at its best. It also reveals a lot about pit's character. I agree with the ending being a bit padded, but still...

It was the point where IMO the game's story completely lost its direction.

There is no reason for Pit to turn into a ring.
There is no reason for the game to do a three-year time skip (and without warning I might add).
There is no reason to have a pseudo-artistic opening with a girl and a dog and then never make use of them again.
The whole thing with the alien bug is a cheap way to make Palutena do a face heel turn without actually becoming evil and to make Viridi your new ally.

And it resulted in dragging the story out for another four chapters, as if the game hadn't already done that when those triangular alien thingies invaded.

What fun is there in making sense???
In all seriousness, I respectfully disagree with you. I mean, the only objection I had to the story arc was having to fight the Chaos Kin twice, and also that we didn't get to fight Viridi. Without it, we also wouldn't have got to play as dark pit, or had the Lightning chariot, or allied with Pitoo for the really fun wave attack level. (This game needs a horde mode)
I also found the opening of the first story arc to be a refreshing break from all the combat, and fighting Pit was rather satisfying. Having the Goddess of Light betray the people lead to some spectacular scenes, and fun enemies.
If I could've gotten rid of an arc, it would be the Aurum arc. As cool as all the SNES-era Star Fox references were, it contributed nothing to the plot whatsoever. That, and Chapter 24 are the only real examples of padding.

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In all seriousness, I respectfully disagree with you. I mean, the only objection I had to the story arc was having to fight the Chaos Kin twice, and also that we didn't get to fight Viridi. Without it, we also wouldn't have got to play as dark pit, or had the Lightning chariot, or allied with Pitoo for the really fun wave attack level. (This game needs a horde mode)
I also found the opening of the first story arc to be a refreshing break from all the combat, and fighting Pit was rather satisfying. Having the Goddess of Light betray the people lead to some spectacular scenes, and fun enemies.
If I could've gotten rid of an arc, it would be the Aurum arc. As cool as all the SNES-era Star Fox references were, it contributed nothing to the plot whatsoever. That, and Chapter 24 are the only real examples of padding.

Agree to disagree, I suppose. And personally I'm not a fan of the wave level since it felt eternal, but I will give you the ending to that level and the underworld stage that came after. I just wish they weren't preceeded by the twist.

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80. Posted:

Continuing, the reason to do all those things is to add a little flavor to the story. I mean, the sudden time-skip was cheap, but having to fight your previous allies, and swap forms in the level's opening, adds gameplay and story variety. I mean, it adds a little bit of seriousness to the previously goofy tone, which prepares for the outstanding final boss.

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