"It's no Ikaruga, but XType Plus doesn't need to be; at a bargain bin price.."
I won't support this or any other "bargain bin priced game." I won't support turning home consoles into cheap game ghettos. We have phones and tablets for that.
This series and character are lame byproducts of an era I'm glad to see gone - aka the early to mid 90s when every platformer was badly ripping off Mario and Sonic, with very underwhelming results.
You can displace the blame if it makes you feel better, but if you read the article the last Dynasty Warriors had online co-op, so its pretty safe to assume that Nintendo is some how responsible for the feature being removed.
All this hype, and I bet this game ends up being like a 7. And will probably actually only be like a 5 or 6, but will get higher praise for simply looking like Zelda. Not into this idea at all. Nintendo's characters are beloved because of their games, if Ninty continues treating them like costumes they can license out... well I don't know how interested I will continue to be.
I do think the Quality Control needs to be tightened up on the eShop. It's starting to feel like a testing ground for really green devs to cut their teeth on, and the results thus far have been very underwhelming. The idea of REALLY CHEAP games just isn't appealing, nor do I think it makes sense on a home console. On a phone? Sure, I get it... You want small portable games that don't cost much and don't take up much time. I bought a Wii U to play videogames at length, and I fully acknowledge that it is a luxury purchase. I didn't shell out $350 bucks to play bargain bin amateur games.
Bought a Master System last year for pretty cheap at a used games store, and it came with a bunch of the classic games. I tried my best to get into it but none of the games really played that great or were that interesting. I ended up giving it to a friend. I suppose a big reason the NES still seems so great in comparison has a lot to do with nostalgia, but I also think that Nintendo just knew how to make better games... and well still does!
@Ralizah The level design complaints appear to be valid regardless of dev time. Animations may get tweaked or enemy placement swapped, but the skeleton of the levels probably won't change that much if they already have them textured and polished... Run, jump over box... climb ladder... jump over box. Snore.
Phew, I gotta agree the level design is booorrring. Bionic Commando Rearmed (the 2.5d remake) looked more interesting than this. And that was like 5 years ago. I'll pass.
Tablet killer? Uhh nope. Its just not an intuitive system. My parents both have iPads and play games, watch movies, browse the web, etc. I brought the Wii U over and they were thoroughly confused and underwhelmed. They couldn't figure out when to press what buttons, or what screen to look at. I love my Wii U, but I think it was just poorly thought through, in terms of being appealing to the casual crowd, and being thr successor to the Wii.
What happened to the Nintendo Seal of Quality like back in the NES days? Because they seriously need to bring that back. This crap along with Chubbins and a few other titles need to be turned away until they can actually find some decent artists. This stuff just looks sad.
Sorry Ninty, but a re-skin of a tired game won't fool me. As far as the "we have to support Wii U exclusives so we should feel obligated to buy this game" rhetoric goes... we absolutely do not have to do that as fans. I want new Nintendo games not other company's games with a Nintendo sticker slapped over it.
Welp, looks like Mercedes is already getting what they wanted. There are already two articles with a ton of comments on this rather pointless marketing stunt. The more we talk about it, the more successful it becomes. So how about we talk about games instead?
I must say I haven't been feeling this optimistic about my Wii U or Nintendo in a while. This year's E3 did a lot to change that, and for me, it had less to do with content and more so the tone and vibe of the delivery. The previous E3's felt a bit "out of touch" with the execs in cat ears last year, and Reggie spewing buzz term nonsense about the Wii U the year before. This year they managed to seem more up to date and modern than the Sony conference and yet still keep their classic "fun for everyone" mantra in place. Let's keep this momentum up Ninty!
Not bad. My big complaint with the Wii U thus far has less to do with the amount of content available, and more to do with the gameplay. So far everything we've gotten from Nintendo has largely been very arcade-y. I want something I can dive into, take my time, and explore. Pikmin was a nice dose of that, but didn't really satisfy the itch. Seems like I'll have to wait for 2015.
This sounds like we won't see a Metroid for quite a while if they're only at the "discussion" point of the development process. Sigh. Don't get me wrong, I think Nintendo did pretty well this E3, but the priority they are giving to Mario, Kirby, and Yoshi currently is getting a bit old. I heard the word "cute" used around 1,200,230,230 times during the Treehouse Live stuff. Nintendo, you have the franchises to make for a versatile balanced lineup, please use them!
Congrats Nintendo! You've completely isolated your fans and consumer base from the rest of the gaming world. Mario Kart 8 had better deliver the goods, as that's seemingly all I will have to play for the rest of the year.
How is the Wii U comparable to N64 or Gamecube? I would argue the problem with the Wii U is that it's too similar to the Wii, except a whole lot less elegantly put together (aka it's clunky). I don't think fanboys had anything to do with Nintendo's decision to make the Wii U, it was money. They wanted Wii sales again. Look at the current and slated 1st party releases for the Wii U and they almost mirror the successful games released for Wii... New Super Mario Bros., Wii Party U, Wii Fit U, Mario Kart, Smash Bros.
"2. A Diablo/Champions of Norath type game....where 1-4 players use pro controllers and play hack and slash on the big screen while the dungeon master uses the Gamepad to control/create the dungeons. The DM sets traps, alters the maps, places random encounters and then plays as the bosses during the boss battles."
This. This is the kind of stuff I'd love to see happening on the U. The asymmetrical game play stuff was what really captured my attention in the first place. They gave us such as small taste of it at the beginning with Mario Chase, Ghost Mansion, and even ZombiU, but since then the game pad implementation has been pretty minor. I think you've really hit the point home that people should be seeing the gamepad as an outlet of creativity and new concepts instead of just... a portable version of the big screen.
If Nintendo is going to plow their own path, as they are seemingly determined to do. They need to go all the way, and lead the charge. Coming off the heals of the mega-successful game-changing Wii, I think Nintendo was amped up on the idea of further stretching the boundaries of console gaming, and for that I applaud them. Unfortunately, after the first launch titles it seems as though they changed course and opted to play it really safe instead.I still can't believe how minor a role the game pad played in Super Mario 3D World and the new DK. To me that sends a mixed message to not only the consumer, but also other devs - "Welp we can't really think of cool ways to use this really expensive bulky device we insisted would really change the way you played games a year back... but here's some great games we think you're fairly familiar with instead."
I totally agree that Nintendo is integral to video game culture, but I also don't think that gives them a free pass for a pretty disappointing console launch and release library. I have no interest in really comparing the Wii U with the PS4 or Xbone, as I do think the Wii U is a different beast. But being different doesn't equal better. I've yet to see Nintendo use the game pad in a meaningful way that isn't a mini-game, ala Nintendoland or Wii U Party. Journey, for PS3, was one of the most unique experiences I've had in a game in some time, and I played it with a good ol' Dualshock. I think Nintendo is starting to assume that new / weird accessories make for new experiences, which I just don't think holds up over time. New games make for new experiences.
Well I do think it's a tad early to start calling out the PS4 and Xbone, as they haven't been out in the wild very long at all. Regardless, I own a Wii U and since Nintendoland I haven't seen anything that I would call "innovative." I've played some great games,sure, but I wouldn't call very polished platformers "revolutionary."
And I think you should be careful with the "Sequels and "more of the same"" argument, as Nintendo are also very guilty of that as well. I would venture to say the PS3 offered just as many, if not more new franchises and experiences as the Wii did. Don't let the Killzones and Titanfalls blind you to a lot of great games that have hit the non-Nintendo systems, that's like somebody saying "Nintendo only has Mario!" Which we all know to be false.
Also, the common sentiment around here that PS4 and Xbone aren't bringing anything new to the table while Nintendo is innovating up a storm with the Wii U, is kind of a joke. It doesn't matter what new fiddly knobs and accessories the consoles have, it's what the devs do with the games.
I'm not holding my breath for E3 anymore. I was convinced they would blow the roof off last year, and instead we got a Nintendo Direct that showed us mostly what we already knew. Nintendo is in a weird place these days.
I've found many times that I end up not buying a game, that I may have normally, had I not been able to play a demo. I was super stoked for Wonderful 101 until I played the demo, and then my enthusiasm cooled very quickly.
A lot of people are kind of nasty around here because they are bored and disappointed in the Wii U, but can't bring themselves to acknowledge it. If people were genuinely happy with the Wii U they probably wouldn't feel the need to insult people that think otherwise.
That's my beef with this type of scenerio - it reeks of "business" money-making mentality. These guys are going to make a ton of money off of people, not because they have fostered an awesome new concept, game mechanic, or interesting art direction, but simply because they are making a clone of Metroid. Their company name is Varia Games! Are we even sure Nintendo will allow this to be released? There is plenty of originality in the world! Step out from your nostalgia cave for a moment and you will notice many NEW games that are pushing video games in new directions - Kentucky Route Zero, Gone Home, Nidhogg... These are the kind of forward-thinking, innovative indie titles that should find a home on a Nintendo system. Not clones of first party franchises.
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Re: These Awesome Articulated Nintendo Figures Are Hard to Resist
@Tsurii897
Right? The once happy go lucky ape now looks like some kind of homicidal sex fiend or something.
Re: Capcom Is Remastering The GameCube Resident Evil, But It's Not Coming To Wii U
@SecondServing
Finally? Where you been brah?
Re: Capcom Is Remastering The GameCube Resident Evil, But It's Not Coming To Wii U
Business as usual.
Re: Review: XType Plus (Wii U eShop)
"It's no Ikaruga, but XType Plus doesn't need to be; at a bargain bin price.."
I won't support this or any other "bargain bin priced game." I won't support turning home consoles into cheap game ghettos. We have phones and tablets for that.
Re: Review: Master Reboot (Wii U eShop)
This looks kind of cool.
Re: James Pond: Robocod Reboot No Longer Coming To Wii U
This series and character are lame byproducts of an era I'm glad to see gone - aka the early to mid 90s when every platformer was badly ripping off Mario and Sonic, with very underwhelming results.
Re: Poll: Is Online Co-Op a Major Miss in Hyrule Warriors, or is Local Multiplayer Enough?
@sinalefa
You can displace the blame if it makes you feel better, but if you read the article the last Dynasty Warriors had online co-op, so its pretty safe to assume that Nintendo is some how responsible for the feature being removed.
Re: Yet More Hyrule Warriors Details Coming This Week
All this hype, and I bet this game ends up being like a 7. And will probably actually only be like a 5 or 6, but will get higher praise for simply looking like Zelda. Not into this idea at all. Nintendo's characters are beloved because of their games, if Ninty continues treating them like costumes they can license out... well I don't know how interested I will continue to be.
Re: Yet More Hyrule Warriors Details Coming This Week
Man, both Shiggy and Aonuma are showing up to rep this over-hyped turd? Weird.
Re: Rivyd Announces Kenji: Rise Of A Hero For Wii U eShop, November Launch Expected
@Jacob_X
You follow a company that hasn't released a single game yet? Or gameplay footage?
Re: Rivyd Announces Kenji: Rise Of A Hero For Wii U eShop, November Launch Expected
@13RavenFRS
Oh, you too... Your first comment, and you randomly pick to do so for a game that has only one screenshot? Good luck with your game, Hiram.
Re: Rivyd Announces Kenji: Rise Of A Hero For Wii U eShop, November Launch Expected
@Jacob_X
I'm thinking you're a mole. First comment, yup. Nice try! Hyping your own game with BS comments is a sure fire way to make me NOT play this game.
Re: Video: This Cool Slow-Mo Mario Kart 8 Japanese TV Advert Even Features Luigi's Death Stare
Nintendo's marketing has definitely gotten better since last year. I find myself cringing a lot less recently.
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U eShop is Raising Tough Questions on Quality Control
I do think the Quality Control needs to be tightened up on the eShop. It's starting to feel like a testing ground for really green devs to cut their teeth on, and the results thus far have been very underwhelming. The idea of REALLY CHEAP games just isn't appealing, nor do I think it makes sense on a home console. On a phone? Sure, I get it... You want small portable games that don't cost much and don't take up much time. I bought a Wii U to play videogames at length, and I fully acknowledge that it is a luxury purchase. I didn't shell out $350 bucks to play bargain bin amateur games.
Re: Hardware Classics: Sega Master System
Bought a Master System last year for pretty cheap at a used games store, and it came with a bunch of the classic games. I tried my best to get into it but none of the games really played that great or were that interesting. I ended up giving it to a friend. I suppose a big reason the NES still seems so great in comparison has a lot to do with nostalgia, but I also think that Nintendo just knew how to make better games... and well still does!
Re: Video: More Mighty No. 9 Footage Arrives to Tempt Us
@Ralizah The level design complaints appear to be valid regardless of dev time. Animations may get tweaked or enemy placement swapped, but the skeleton of the levels probably won't change that much if they already have them textured and polished... Run, jump over box... climb ladder... jump over box. Snore.
Re: Video: More Mighty No. 9 Footage Arrives to Tempt Us
Phew, I gotta agree the level design is booorrring. Bionic Commando Rearmed (the 2.5d remake) looked more interesting than this. And that was like 5 years ago. I'll pass.
Re: Nintendo Goes Download-Only With The 2014 Club Nintendo Elite Rewards
Complainers! These are free gifts... Personally I'll take games over more little statues or posters or whatever other junk they wanna get rid of.
Re: Talking Point: Should Nintendo Be Promoting The Wii U GamePad As A Tablet Killer?
Tablet killer? Uhh nope. Its just not an intuitive system. My parents both have iPads and play games, watch movies, browse the web, etc. I brought the Wii U over and they were thoroughly confused and underwhelmed. They couldn't figure out when to press what buttons, or what screen to look at. I love my Wii U, but I think it was just poorly thought through, in terms of being appealing to the casual crowd, and being thr successor to the Wii.
Re: Tekken 7 Revealed At Evo 2014, Platforms Unconfirmed
We didn't get Street Fighter which actually has history on Nintendo consoles, we surely won't get Tekken on the U. Besides, who would buy it?
Re: Interview: Nifflas Takes Us On An Affordable Space Adventure
Game looks great, but that title... Why not just make the price affordable instead of literally putting "Affordable" in the title.
Re: HullBreach Studios Bringing New RPG, Tomeling, Exclusively to Wii U
@Twiilight_Prince
Splash art?
The only splash accompanying that art should come from a toilet, as this looks like a turd.
Re: HullBreach Studios Bringing New RPG, Tomeling, Exclusively to Wii U
What happened to the Nintendo Seal of Quality like back in the NES days? Because they seriously need to bring that back. This crap along with Chubbins and a few other titles need to be turned away until they can actually find some decent artists. This stuff just looks sad.
Re: First Impressions: Hyrule Warriors Is Zelda, But Not As We Know It
Sorry Ninty, but a re-skin of a tired game won't fool me. As far as the "we have to support Wii U exclusives so we should feel obligated to buy this game" rhetoric goes... we absolutely do not have to do that as fans. I want new Nintendo games not other company's games with a Nintendo sticker slapped over it.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Should Beware the Slippery Slope of Sponsored DLC
Welp, looks like Mercedes is already getting what they wanted. There are already two articles with a ton of comments on this rather pointless marketing stunt. The more we talk about it, the more successful it becomes. So how about we talk about games instead?
Re: Nintendo Executive Suggests Wii U is at a "Tipping Point" Towards Success
I must say I haven't been feeling this optimistic about my Wii U or Nintendo in a while. This year's E3 did a lot to change that, and for me, it had less to do with content and more so the tone and vibe of the delivery. The previous E3's felt a bit "out of touch" with the execs in cat ears last year, and Reggie spewing buzz term nonsense about the Wii U the year before. This year they managed to seem more up to date and modern than the Sony conference and yet still keep their classic "fun for everyone" mantra in place. Let's keep this momentum up Ninty!
Re: Shigeru Miyamoto Confirms That Dual GamePad Support is Still Possible, But Not Soon
I barely see the purpose of one gamepad at the moment. Two just seems excessive.
Re: Guide: The Biggest Wii U and 3DS Retail Games Coming In 2014
Not bad. My big complaint with the Wii U thus far has less to do with the amount of content available, and more to do with the gameplay. So far everything we've gotten from Nintendo has largely been very arcade-y. I want something I can dive into, take my time, and explore. Pikmin was a nice dose of that, but didn't really satisfy the itch. Seems like I'll have to wait for 2015.
Re: E3 2014: Nintendo Hopes to Share Metroid News in the "Near Future"
This sounds like we won't see a Metroid for quite a while if they're only at the "discussion" point of the development process. Sigh. Don't get me wrong, I think Nintendo did pretty well this E3, but the priority they are giving to Mario, Kirby, and Yoshi currently is getting a bit old. I heard the word "cute" used around 1,200,230,230 times during the Treehouse Live stuff. Nintendo, you have the franchises to make for a versatile balanced lineup, please use them!
Re: Ubisoft Now "Fully Focused" On Making The Wii U Version Of Watch_Dogs "The Best It Can Be"
Congrats Nintendo! You've completely isolated your fans and consumer base from the rest of the gaming world. Mario Kart 8 had better deliver the goods, as that's seemingly all I will have to play for the rest of the year.
Re: Microsoft's Ken Lobb: Metroid Prime Wouldn't Have Been Made If Nintendo Had Listened To The Fans
@minotaurgamer
How is the Wii U comparable to N64 or Gamecube? I would argue the problem with the Wii U is that it's too similar to the Wii, except a whole lot less elegantly put together (aka it's clunky). I don't think fanboys had anything to do with Nintendo's decision to make the Wii U, it was money. They wanted Wii sales again. Look at the current and slated 1st party releases for the Wii U and they almost mirror the successful games released for Wii... New Super Mario Bros., Wii Party U, Wii Fit U, Mario Kart, Smash Bros.
Re: Review: Rusty's Real Deal Baseball (3DS eShop)
Man, I'm having a blast with this. So simple, yet addictive.
Re: Report Suggests That June Could Be Crucial For Iwata's Future At The Head Of Nintendo
The smartphone thing is such a distraction. Forget about phones and tablets and make the Wii U a strong console. That's it.
Re: Poll: Have Your Say On The GamePad's Role With The Wii U Virtual Console
As an owner of a 3DS and a Wii U, I have no interest in playing portable games on my Wii U. Where are the Gamecube or N64 titles?
Re: Ronimo Games: PS4 And Xbox One Are More Of The Same, But Wii U Is "Something New"
@QuickSilver88
"2. A Diablo/Champions of Norath type game....where 1-4 players use pro controllers and play hack and slash on the big screen while the dungeon master uses the Gamepad to control/create the dungeons. The DM sets traps, alters the maps, places random encounters and then plays as the bosses during the boss battles."
This. This is the kind of stuff I'd love to see happening on the U. The asymmetrical game play stuff was what really captured my attention in the first place. They gave us such as small taste of it at the beginning with Mario Chase, Ghost Mansion, and even ZombiU, but since then the game pad implementation has been pretty minor. I think you've really hit the point home that people should be seeing the gamepad as an outlet of creativity and new concepts instead of just... a portable version of the big screen.
If Nintendo is going to plow their own path, as they are seemingly determined to do. They need to go all the way, and lead the charge. Coming off the heals of the mega-successful game-changing Wii, I think Nintendo was amped up on the idea of further stretching the boundaries of console gaming, and for that I applaud them. Unfortunately, after the first launch titles it seems as though they changed course and opted to play it really safe instead.I still can't believe how minor a role the game pad played in Super Mario 3D World and the new DK. To me that sends a mixed message to not only the consumer, but also other devs - "Welp we can't really think of cool ways to use this really expensive bulky device we insisted would really change the way you played games a year back... but here's some great games we think you're fairly familiar with instead."
Re: Ronimo Games: PS4 And Xbox One Are More Of The Same, But Wii U Is "Something New"
@QuickSilver88
I totally agree that Nintendo is integral to video game culture, but I also don't think that gives them a free pass for a pretty disappointing console launch and release library. I have no interest in really comparing the Wii U with the PS4 or Xbone, as I do think the Wii U is a different beast. But being different doesn't equal better. I've yet to see Nintendo use the game pad in a meaningful way that isn't a mini-game, ala Nintendoland or Wii U Party. Journey, for PS3, was one of the most unique experiences I've had in a game in some time, and I played it with a good ol' Dualshock. I think Nintendo is starting to assume that new / weird accessories make for new experiences, which I just don't think holds up over time. New games make for new experiences.
Re: Ronimo Games: PS4 And Xbox One Are More Of The Same, But Wii U Is "Something New"
@Action51
Well I do think it's a tad early to start calling out the PS4 and Xbone, as they haven't been out in the wild very long at all. Regardless, I own a Wii U and since Nintendoland I haven't seen anything that I would call "innovative." I've played some great games,sure, but I wouldn't call very polished platformers "revolutionary."
And I think you should be careful with the "Sequels and "more of the same"" argument, as Nintendo are also very guilty of that as well. I would venture to say the PS3 offered just as many, if not more new franchises and experiences as the Wii did. Don't let the Killzones and Titanfalls blind you to a lot of great games that have hit the non-Nintendo systems, that's like somebody saying "Nintendo only has Mario!" Which we all know to be false.
Re: Ronimo Games: PS4 And Xbox One Are More Of The Same, But Wii U Is "Something New"
Also, the common sentiment around here that PS4 and Xbone aren't bringing anything new to the table while Nintendo is innovating up a storm with the Wii U, is kind of a joke. It doesn't matter what new fiddly knobs and accessories the consoles have, it's what the devs do with the games.
Re: Ronimo Games: PS4 And Xbox One Are More Of The Same, But Wii U Is "Something New"
I love that his feedback on the Wii U sums up to "Yeah, it's great, you can can use the touch screen...and...touch stuff. IT'S NEW."
Re: Two Tribes Shoots Down the Possibility of Toki Tori 3
Dat character design looked like some kind of rejected Easter decoration.
Re: Fiendishly Tricky Precision Platformer Chubbins Is Bouncing To The Wii U eShop
This gameplay is definitely not giving me a chubbin.
Re: Nintendo Passing on PAX East 2014
I'm not holding my breath for E3 anymore. I was convinced they would blow the roof off last year, and instead we got a Nintendo Direct that showed us mostly what we already knew. Nintendo is in a weird place these days.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Major Wii U Retail Titles Can Benefit From More eShop Trials and Demos
I've found many times that I end up not buying a game, that I may have normally, had I not been able to play a demo. I was super stoked for Wonderful 101 until I played the demo, and then my enthusiasm cooled very quickly.
Re: Images Emerge of Wii U Mario vs. Donkey Kong Tech Demo Running On Nintendo Web Framework
Man the Wii U is really aiming to be the bargain bin indie dumping ground.
Re: Nintendo Has "Lost Its Way" But Should Never Be Underestimated, Says Peter Molyneux
@LDXD
Yeah dude. DS 2 is incredible.
Re: Nintendo Has "Lost Its Way" But Should Never Be Underestimated, Says Peter Molyneux
@ Captain-Falcon
A lot of people are kind of nasty around here because they are bored and disappointed in the Wii U, but can't bring themselves to acknowledge it. If people were genuinely happy with the Wii U they probably wouldn't feel the need to insult people that think otherwise.
Re: Artwork: When Nintendo Finally Gets Around To Rebooting Star Fox, We Hope The Characters Look Like This
Uhhh, no thanks. I don't need any Metal Gear in my Star Fox.
Re: Feature: When Cranky Kong Took On Twitter
sigh
Re: Retro Studios Outlines "Symbiotic Relationship" With Nintendo Teams
The amount of times the "realistic fur" thing is being brought up in regards to this new Donkey Kong game is becoming odd.
Re: ReVeN's Kickstarter is Funded, With GamePad Features Available as a Stretch Goal
@audiobrainiac
That's my beef with this type of scenerio - it reeks of "business" money-making mentality. These guys are going to make a ton of money off of people, not because they have fostered an awesome new concept, game mechanic, or interesting art direction, but simply because they are making a clone of Metroid. Their company name is Varia Games! Are we even sure Nintendo will allow this to be released? There is plenty of originality in the world! Step out from your nostalgia cave for a moment and you will notice many NEW games that are pushing video games in new directions - Kentucky Route Zero, Gone Home, Nidhogg... These are the kind of forward-thinking, innovative indie titles that should find a home on a Nintendo system. Not clones of first party franchises.