@Royalblues I think they are trying to get more core gamers this gen but I still think they're fixated on that casual audience a bit. I can't wait to see what Wii Fit U sells like!
Yea but it had a good, practical gimmick. The Wii-U has a lame excuse for an iPad that can't be taken out of the house that won't catch on with anyone's grandma.
It's just really starting to hit me that this console may not get much better. They're going to struggle to break even with this, in the end. I love Nintendo and their games more than any other company but Iwata and the others are running this thing into the ground.
Sony is killing it this year and Nintendo needs to come out swinging. It's make or break time for this stupid console seeing as how the PS4 is getting major exclusives and everyone keeps ignoring the U. I'm getting fed up with this Nintendo management. They just sit around and smile and act like nothing is wrong, when they're getting passed over by the PS4 and everyone else. Why did they not go for a more powerful console this time? Why?
I don't think Nintendo will be able to beat the PS4 but I think they can compete with the X-Box, after that abysmal reveal yesterday. As long as Sony does the exact opposite of Microsoft with the PS4, they'll be fine as the leader. Nintendo should focus on marketing the U as the only true gaming console and maybe they can take away some of the idiots who are actually on the fence about buying an X-Box.
I've complained a lot about how Nintendo fumbled the U so much but Microsoft is taking the cake. This thing better fail with all these idiotic features. How can anyone support this piece of crap?
That's like admitting that we shouldn't be paying $40 for this badboy. I was already on the fence about this game, now I'm totally unsure. Wario is pretty cool and charming though!
It won't be quite the same with the PS4 and Durango. It's possible that they start off slow but it won't be anywhere near as bad as the U is right now. They're going to have to try really hard to move only a 1000 copies of their games.
I just can't believe Nintendo hasn't even thought about a platformer between these two. That should've been their first choice for a crossover. If NSMB sold really well then that seems like it would sell equally as nice or close. Who, growing up, wouldn't have loved a crossover game between the two biggest mascots in gaming history?
You'd think if they really hyped up the release of the trilogy then the sales might not be too bad for them. If they made a really big deal out of them but they don't seem to be doing that for anything these days.
@C-Olimar I don't know, I'm not holding my breath. It took them this long to get Mother 2 over here despite constant demand for it. It'd be really cool if they came over too. Wasn't Mother 1 already translated and ready for release back in the day?
For pete's sake, just do another game. People want the series to continue and it is a business after all. It's like Nintendo is afraid of making money this cycle.
Yea, I thought it'd be cool if a game like F-Zero had online play. Sell it for a little more, take some more time to put it in there, and I think people would like it. It would take some effort but not nearly as much as a new game would so it should be easier to do.
Typical NOA BS. This company will never learn. As hard as it is to believe but we actually want to play games on Nintendo consoles/handhelds. We didn't buy them for decoration.
No offense to anyone but I think it looks like garbage. It lacks charm and looks like any other FPS out there. It reminds me a lot of Bomberman Zero, in that they've lost all the charm that made Megaman great.
It's not the third-party's faults, it's Nintendo's for not giving much confidence to them that their stuff would sell. They put out a trashy under-performing console at the end of a generation with a controller that can't be replaced easily. If you were a third-party publisher, would you put money into a game to port it to a new console if it's only going to sell a minimal amount of copies? That's what's happening with Black Ops II and I guarantee third-parties recognize that. I maintain that they should've dumped all the R&D money from the Gamepad and put it into making the console way more competitive with the PS4 and 720. Then, they would've at least gotten some next-gen multi-plat games. Now, they're in a lame duck position getting no games from third parties and they're going to struggle just to break even with this console. Blame Iwata for being inept and having no idea how to compete.
It's more like NOA needs to listen to its fans. Reggie has made so many blunders, it's hard to count them all. Him and Iwata have kinda sat on their hands with this launch. How can you screw up the 3DS launch and then proceed to do the same with the U? These days don't get anything and this is coming from a Nintendo fan.
Posting the letters isn't why the U isn't selling. Actually, it's lack of games, lack of power, and a stupid gimmick no one cares about or is practical.
Don't forget though that Activision did the same thing with the DLC of their Black Ops and they weren't in the running to do the Network thing for Nintendo.
I think we should probably get used to news like this. Word to the wise, if you own the U and a 360/PS3, just buy the latter version of any multi-platform games.
It ain't about the launch with me though. The writing is on the wall for third-parties. They're backing away now and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that come the holidays, they still won't be here. Everyone is now developing for the PS4 and the next X-box and they're passing up everything else. Yet, here's Nintendo with this archaic console that appeals to zero publishers. It worked with the Wii (it being under powered) but with the U it isn't working. If the U were more comparable to the PS4, we'd be guaranteed more games in the future.
Why should I sell it? I know Nintendo will develop great first-party games. If I sell the U, I won't get anywhere what I paid for it. There's nothing wrong with wanting more though and not wishing to sit back and settle.
Well, I'm sure glad it's got a great browser, in that case. What a reason to buy it over the PS3 or 360.
The Gamepad is a hunk of junk with no real uses that seperate it from the other two consoles. It's a giant gimmick and a waste of resources. I just don't get it, don't you want to play as many games as you can on your U? Do you actually want to settle for less? I'm not trying to start a war but to say I've been underwhelmed and disappointed by Nintendo since June is an understatement.
Lol, we should just accept that we'll never get the games that Sony and Microsoft consoles get. That's a good one.
The Gamepad was a dumb idea, point blank. Nintendo will never grow if they don't start appealing to other gamers besides Nintendo fans. If Nintendo had not wasted their time developing idiotic gimmick technology like the Gamepad and instead focused on a normal, more powerful console they would be getting next-gen games. They would not be out of the loop like they are right now. Nintendo is completely stuck in the stone-age with their thinking.
They've also been lazy with the release of the U, which probably hasn't had a good effect on third-party publishers bringing over their games.
Tell me, where are these truly unique games at? Zombi-U is the only one that I can see. There's barely any games out there right now and not many coming in the next few months until the fall at least. Does it sound like Nintendo cares a lot about this console making it? You can only count on Nintendo consoles for one reason and that's Nintendo games, and I'm tired of that. I want more than just Nintendo games on my Nintendo console. I was counting on Nintendo to change things finally with the U and it's not going to happen. The U will get lost in the shuffle more at the end of the year and by 2014, it'll be business as usual with nothing but Nintendo games to play for the thing.
I'm as diehard a Nintendo fan as you can get but I can't sit back and calmly watch as Iwata and Reggie and other half-heartedly run Nintendo into the ground.
Let's be honest, Nintendo should've said "forget the Gamepad" and focused all their money and resources into creating a more powerful console. Then maybe third parties would take the U way more serious. Right now, it's a lame duck and Nintendo doesn't even seem like they care about the thing themselves. The place needs restructured badly.
This article is a tad misleading. Nintendo has confirmed that some games have Accomplishments but they're not mandatory. Specifically Nintendoland and NSMBU. They just don't have a universal system for organizing every one over every game.
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Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Biggest E3 Challenge is Getting Noticed
@Royalblues I think they are trying to get more core gamers this gen but I still think they're fixated on that casual audience a bit. I can't wait to see what Wii Fit U sells like!
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Biggest E3 Challenge is Getting Noticed
Yea but it had a good, practical gimmick. The Wii-U has a lame excuse for an iPad that can't be taken out of the house that won't catch on with anyone's grandma.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Biggest E3 Challenge is Getting Noticed
The stakes aren't getting higher. The Wii-U won't stand a chance against the PS4. You're naive if you think the U is going to compete with the PS4.
Re: FIFA 14 is Skipping Wii U Because of "Disappointing" FIFA 13 Sales
Anyone happen to know what the Vita sales numbers were compared to the Wii-U sales for Fifa 13?
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Biggest E3 Challenge is Getting Noticed
It's just really starting to hit me that this console may not get much better. They're going to struggle to break even with this, in the end. I love Nintendo and their games more than any other company but Iwata and the others are running this thing into the ground.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Biggest E3 Challenge is Getting Noticed
Sony is killing it this year and Nintendo needs to come out swinging. It's make or break time for this stupid console seeing as how the PS4 is getting major exclusives and everyone keeps ignoring the U. I'm getting fed up with this Nintendo management. They just sit around and smile and act like nothing is wrong, when they're getting passed over by the PS4 and everyone else. Why did they not go for a more powerful console this time? Why?
Re: Mighty Switch Force! 2 Blazing Into The North American 3DS eShop Next Week
Anyone know if this will have more depth than the original? I got bored as I played more.
Re: Yakuza Producer Describes The Wii U Version As An "Experiment"
This thing better be coming to the States on the U. I'd buy it real quick.
Re: EarthBound Listing Materializes on Amazon UK
It'd be a big, big deal if it's a collection of the three games and/or a brand new game. That would seemingly set the internet on fire!
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U's Next-Gen Challenge Starts to Take Shape
I don't think Nintendo will be able to beat the PS4 but I think they can compete with the X-Box, after that abysmal reveal yesterday. As long as Sony does the exact opposite of Microsoft with the PS4, they'll be fine as the leader. Nintendo should focus on marketing the U as the only true gaming console and maybe they can take away some of the idiots who are actually on the fence about buying an X-Box.
Re: Poll: Do You Follow and Watch Rival Console Reveals?
I've complained a lot about how Nintendo fumbled the U so much but Microsoft is taking the cake. This thing better fail with all these idiotic features. How can anyone support this piece of crap?
Re: Game & Wario Was Originally Intended As A Pre-Installed Wii U Title
That's like admitting that we shouldn't be paying $40 for this badboy. I was already on the fence about this game, now I'm totally unsure. Wario is pretty cool and charming though!
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Mixed Week With Wii U Third-Party Support
@gavn64 Andre was very good. I loved him as a heel even though he was pretty much immobile by that point.
Re: Shantae 3DS Virtual Console Release Date Creeps Ever Closer
The date is sometime this year
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Mixed Week With Wii U Third-Party Support
It won't be quite the same with the PS4 and Durango. It's possible that they start off slow but it won't be anywhere near as bad as the U is right now. They're going to have to try really hard to move only a 1000 copies of their games.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Mixed Week With Wii U Third-Party Support
Mixed week? That's putting it lightly. More like the nail is in the coffin and Nintendo is going to now have to desperately try to pull it out.
Re: Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games Slipping Onto Wii U
I just can't believe Nintendo hasn't even thought about a platformer between these two. That should've been their first choice for a crossover. If NSMB sold really well then that seems like it would sell equally as nice or close. Who, growing up, wouldn't have loved a crossover game between the two biggest mascots in gaming history?
Re: Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games Slipping Onto Wii U
Honestly, who cares? I want a platformer with Sonic and Mario not a fifth mini-game collection.
Re: Shigesato Itoi Says Mother 4 Would Be "Impossible"
You'd think if they really hyped up the release of the trilogy then the sales might not be too bad for them. If they made a really big deal out of them but they don't seem to be doing that for anything these days.
Re: Shigesato Itoi Says Mother 4 Would Be "Impossible"
@C-Olimar I don't know, I'm not holding my breath. It took them this long to get Mother 2 over here despite constant demand for it. It'd be really cool if they came over too. Wasn't Mother 1 already translated and ready for release back in the day?
Re: Satoru Iwata: Nintendo Has No Plans To Adopt Cloud Gaming
It's amazing Iwata knows what cloud gaming is. I'm not sure he's mastered 56K internet yet.
Re: Shigesato Itoi Says Mother 4 Would Be "Impossible"
For pete's sake, just do another game. People want the series to continue and it is a business after all. It's like Nintendo is afraid of making money this cycle.
Re: Wii U Virtual Console Launch Lineup Is Revealed
Yea, I thought it'd be cool if a game like F-Zero had online play. Sell it for a little more, take some more time to put it in there, and I think people would like it. It would take some effort but not nearly as much as a new game would so it should be easier to do.
Re: Wii U Virtual Console Launch Lineup Is Revealed
Who in the heck wants to play Excitebike or Ice Climbers, who doesn't already own it?
Re: Wii U Virtual Console Launch Lineup Is Revealed
Cautious? That's the word you choose to use to describe VC decisions that NOA makes, lol!
Re: Wii U Virtual Console Launch Lineup Is Revealed
Typical NOA BS. This company will never learn. As hard as it is to believe but we actually want to play games on Nintendo consoles/handhelds. We didn't buy them for decoration.
Re: Guild01 Titles Set For Discount in North America
Aero Porter for me. Been wanting to try it and for that price, it's a steal!
Re: Cliff Bleszinski Likens The Wii To A "Virus"
Gears of War is overrated tripe and so is Cliffy B. Give me something original in your games for once.
Re: Nintendo Download: 11th April 2013 (North America)
Half of that stuff isn't even releasing today. Man, NOA and Reggie need to get off their butts and actually give us what we want...GAMES.
Re: Feature: Ten SEGA Mega Drive / Genesis Games We Want on the Wii U Virtual Console
Most of these games don't have licensing issues and should be on the VC. Another case of NOA making mistakes and being lazy.
Re: Bass and Treble Figures Turning Up In The U.S. This Summer
Why did I originally read this as Mega Man and Bass coming to the US on the VC or eShop? Now, the sadness is kicking in that I was wrong.
Re: The Story of an Abandoned Mega Man FPS, Maverick Hunter, Emerges
No offense to anyone but I think it looks like garbage. It lacks charm and looks like any other FPS out there. It reminds me a lot of Bomberman Zero, in that they've lost all the charm that made Megaman great.
Re: Epic Games Rules Out Unreal Engine 4 For Wii U
@PokeTune Hit it right on the head
Re: Talking Point: An Open Letter To Nintendo
Yea, Wind Waker was really good and probably has the best art style of the series!
Re: Talking Point: An Open Letter To Nintendo
Of course, that's all part of a launch but I don't think third-party publishers ignoring a console or cancelling games is part of the agenda.
Re: Talking Point: An Open Letter To Nintendo
^^^Industry crash time lol
Re: Talking Point: An Open Letter To Nintendo
It's not the third-party's faults, it's Nintendo's for not giving much confidence to them that their stuff would sell. They put out a trashy under-performing console at the end of a generation with a controller that can't be replaced easily. If you were a third-party publisher, would you put money into a game to port it to a new console if it's only going to sell a minimal amount of copies? That's what's happening with Black Ops II and I guarantee third-parties recognize that. I maintain that they should've dumped all the R&D money from the Gamepad and put it into making the console way more competitive with the PS4 and 720. Then, they would've at least gotten some next-gen multi-plat games. Now, they're in a lame duck position getting no games from third parties and they're going to struggle just to break even with this console. Blame Iwata for being inept and having no idea how to compete.
Re: Talking Point: An Open Letter To Nintendo
It's more like NOA needs to listen to its fans. Reggie has made so many blunders, it's hard to count them all. Him and Iwata have kinda sat on their hands with this launch. How can you screw up the 3DS launch and then proceed to do the same with the U? These days don't get anything and this is coming from a Nintendo fan.
Re: Talking Point: An Open Letter To Nintendo
Posting the letters isn't why the U isn't selling. Actually, it's lack of games, lack of power, and a stupid gimmick no one cares about or is practical.
Re: Wii U Version of Need For Speed: Most Wanted Unlikely To Get DLC Support
Don't forget though that Activision did the same thing with the DLC of their Black Ops and they weren't in the running to do the Network thing for Nintendo.
Re: Wii U Version of Need For Speed: Most Wanted Unlikely To Get DLC Support
I think we should probably get used to news like this. Word to the wise, if you own the U and a 360/PS3, just buy the latter version of any multi-platform games.
Re: Saints Row 4 is Skipping Wii U
That's basically what everyone is, at heart. Why shouldn't I want more? When Nintendo gives me so little, of course I'm going to want more.
Re: Saints Row 4 is Skipping Wii U
It ain't about the launch with me though. The writing is on the wall for third-parties. They're backing away now and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that come the holidays, they still won't be here. Everyone is now developing for the PS4 and the next X-box and they're passing up everything else. Yet, here's Nintendo with this archaic console that appeals to zero publishers. It worked with the Wii (it being under powered) but with the U it isn't working. If the U were more comparable to the PS4, we'd be guaranteed more games in the future.
Why should I sell it? I know Nintendo will develop great first-party games. If I sell the U, I won't get anywhere what I paid for it. There's nothing wrong with wanting more though and not wishing to sit back and settle.
Re: Saints Row 4 is Skipping Wii U
Well, I'm sure glad it's got a great browser, in that case. What a reason to buy it over the PS3 or 360.
The Gamepad is a hunk of junk with no real uses that seperate it from the other two consoles. It's a giant gimmick and a waste of resources. I just don't get it, don't you want to play as many games as you can on your U? Do you actually want to settle for less? I'm not trying to start a war but to say I've been underwhelmed and disappointed by Nintendo since June is an understatement.
Re: Saints Row 4 is Skipping Wii U
Lol, we should just accept that we'll never get the games that Sony and Microsoft consoles get. That's a good one.
The Gamepad was a dumb idea, point blank. Nintendo will never grow if they don't start appealing to other gamers besides Nintendo fans. If Nintendo had not wasted their time developing idiotic gimmick technology like the Gamepad and instead focused on a normal, more powerful console they would be getting next-gen games. They would not be out of the loop like they are right now. Nintendo is completely stuck in the stone-age with their thinking.
They've also been lazy with the release of the U, which probably hasn't had a good effect on third-party publishers bringing over their games.
Re: Saints Row 4 is Skipping Wii U
Tell me, where are these truly unique games at? Zombi-U is the only one that I can see. There's barely any games out there right now and not many coming in the next few months until the fall at least. Does it sound like Nintendo cares a lot about this console making it? You can only count on Nintendo consoles for one reason and that's Nintendo games, and I'm tired of that. I want more than just Nintendo games on my Nintendo console. I was counting on Nintendo to change things finally with the U and it's not going to happen. The U will get lost in the shuffle more at the end of the year and by 2014, it'll be business as usual with nothing but Nintendo games to play for the thing.
I'm as diehard a Nintendo fan as you can get but I can't sit back and calmly watch as Iwata and Reggie and other half-heartedly run Nintendo into the ground.
Re: Saints Row 4 is Skipping Wii U
Let's be honest, Nintendo should've said "forget the Gamepad" and focused all their money and resources into creating a more powerful console. Then maybe third parties would take the U way more serious. Right now, it's a lame duck and Nintendo doesn't even seem like they care about the thing themselves. The place needs restructured badly.
Re: Saints Row 4 is Skipping Wii U
I think Nintendo is in trouble for the U's life cycle.
Re: Lack of "OMG" Idea Explains Borderlands Wii U Absence
That's pretty stupid. What was the OMG reason for every other version? Just release a GOTY edition, how hard is that?
Re: Talking Point: Life Without Wii U Achievements
This article is a tad misleading. Nintendo has confirmed that some games have Accomplishments but they're not mandatory. Specifically Nintendoland and NSMBU. They just don't have a universal system for organizing every one over every game.