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This essentially confirms there will not be a Switch Pro, but i think it also confirms they are working on the next console.

Because:

"It’s how specifically can technology enhance a gameplay experience. And then where do you apply that technology? Do you want to apply it on current existing hardware or platforms, or do you want to wait for the next platform? And then what’s the right gameplay experience with that? There’s a host of factors that goes into it, and it’s something we’re always looking at.”

Okay so now we know.

@Ocaz i been doing the same thing but its still kinda annoying.

I play mostly portable too so i need to not let the console sleep, that seems to stop the download.

@__jamiie Im in the same boat with Star Fox and F-Zero.

Especially the latter, i think Nintendo are missing a trick with F-Zero.

If they gave us a fresh game, upgradable cars and lots of additional extras that go into racing games these days, they would have another "Evergreen" game on their hands.

A decent F-Zero like that i think would sell 10m+.

I also think Metroid Prime 4 will most likely sell 10m+ too.

When it's released.

How about... fixing the last firmware update so people can... you know...

DOWNLOAD THIS PATCH.

Wtf are they doing...?

Edit: Don't own the game, just speaking for those who do, but won't be able to download this patch.

@Crono1973 "Are we officially calling people with unpopular opinions, trolls?"

It seems lot of people are doing exactly that 🤣🤣

@MrMichaelJames i noticed this too, for whatever reason he singled you out and you alone. Which is why i said something for you lol.

Your comment wasn't even trolling, you were just stating your opinion.

But unfortunately we live in a snowflake era where people's differing opinions alone will be enough to warrant calling them a troll.

"Oh this person doesn't agree with my point of view, so they must be trolling".

@__jamiie ah yeah i see your original point a bit better now, to you Metroid is on the same level as Mario.

So yeah i can see where you are coming from to be fair.

Also i hope the same for Metroid, i hope this game does sell well, i personally won't be contributing towards it because of the price, but i still hope it sells well.

I just wish they would of charged $40, because their sales would definitely be better.

Also on the point about Fire Emblem, it still hasn't reached those heights just yet but with more time it could do, although i would definitely factor in the fact that Fire Emblem is a full 3D AAA game which I'm guessing had a lot more effort put into it.

@Ulysses but you're essentially telling people that paying for brand is okay.

I think many people are arguing against that very notion, as it is extremely anti consumer.

Here's an example for you.

Two people build a shed, one person works for a very reputable company and the other is self employed. The same amount of work goes into both projects.

Are you saying it's okay for the self employed guy to be paid less than the person working for a reputable company because "brand"?

Because thats exactly the case with this game and other Indie Metrovania games.

I know people will definitely be willing to fork out the asking price because of the brand.

But if the game cost $40 instead of $60, like it should, like most other developers would charge.

Then the sales will be much higher than it will be. I for one won't be paying the asking price, i would of definitely paid $40 though, i paid that for Samus Returns.

Also it's very clear in the comments section, i won't be the only one to pass on this purely based on the price.

In short Nintendo are pricing themselves out of more sales.

@__jamiie i wasn't talking just about sales though, in terms of popularity and general exposure.

If you walked up to a 5 year old and asked them who Samus is, it's highly unlikely that they would know.

But if you asked them who Mario is, they would very likely say yes.

Even if they have never touched a Mario game.

That type of popularity doesn't come from just "more sales", although that certainly helps.

@tseliot Metroid is popular, but it's not even in the same league as Zelda or Mario.

It isn't even close.

It's more in line with Donkey Kong. In terms of popularity.

@AgentGuapo so people giving a different point of view and prospective is now considered trolling if you don't agree with it?

Really?

Lol.

@AgentGuapo why should they be?

@Octane lmfao.

FIFA at $10... brilliant.

100% agreed.

🤣

@Crono1973 yeah the guy definitely hit the nail on the head for that comment.

@Kaori-chan there's not much for me to reply to on what you said because i 100% agree, the Laptop point you made is especially on point.

We are definitely paying for the Nintendo "brand" - had any other company tried to do this, it wouldn't have gone down the same.

I mean even if Sega (who are big) tried to give us a brand new 2d Sonic at $60, people would definitely raise an eyebrow on that.

Also i do exactly the same in terms of value.

£1 must equal 1 hour of gameplay.

@commentlife 100%.

If Nintendo still had a dedicated handheld system on the market like the 3DS, all those games you mentioned and i think Cruis'n Crash too would of all been on the 3DS at $30-$40.

Definitely smells of cash grab.

@jojobar how you value worth to you is subjective.

I personally think Hollow Knight is worth $70 because it gave me more than 80 hours of gameplay.

But you might not like that game, so for you it isn't even worth the $15 they are charging for it. (Just an example, i don't actually know if you liked it or not lol).

@Cheez this is exactly my concern.

Samus Returns was a 15 hour game (max). And they charged $40 for it...

That really isn't good value for money, no matter how fun those 15 hours were, i could have purchased 2 Indie games that would have each lasted twice as long as Samus Returns.

And I'd probably still have change left over.

@CarlosM87 lol so i wasn't the only one who felt that way?

I actually emailed team cherry support to see if i could send them more money because i felt like i was stealing from them 😅.

They respectfully declined my offer.

Great people. If Silk Song cost $100 i would pay it with a smile and a whistle.

@Kaori-chan fully agree with most of what you said. (Might be a bit easier to read if you break it down into paragraphs though).

But no i agree, it's not so much the price as the people behind it.

Nintendo are well known for charging too much for very little content.

I have a feeling this will have below 30 hours of content, which in my opinion isn't even worth $40. Let alone $60.

@iuli you haven't been here long i guess?

Nintendo could charge you $90 for cardboard (like they did) and this website will find a way to say:

"Thats great value for money".

In fact if you want to go far enough in the archives, you will literally see them doing exactly that.

@UltimateOtaku91 exactly.

No it isn't worth $60 because i will be willing to bet money it'll be shorter and have less content than:

Hollow Knight
Dead Cells
Hades
Salt and Sanctuary
Axiom Verge
Shovel Knights
Many more....

But it'll cost twice as much (in some cases 3 times as much), as any of these games will, i believe its going to be 4 times as expensive as Hollow Knight.

It doesn't matter how you spin this, i don't care how many people say "this is worth it".

It's not worth it, no matter how you try and fool yourself into thinking it will be, it simply will not be worth it.

Edit: those games i listed all have above 50 hours of content. I doubt Dread will even have 30 hours of content.

@Baker1000 30-60 is definitely harder to tell but i can definitely tell when a game drops below 30.

But yeah i believe that the human eye (in most cases, unless you have very sharp eyes) cannot actually catch frame rates past 45 FPS.

I know age actually plays a part in this too, the older you get the harder it is to catch frame rates.

But yeah i still notice when a game drops below 30, especially at the 15-20 mark, which Age Of Calamity drops too very often.

Yeah i didn't buy this game because it runs like absolute ass.

Dips below 15 fps constantly, the visuals get messy really easily and it can look terrible as a result.

The gameplay is a bit messy too.

Also you can't download anything right now because Nintendo doesn't actually know how to fix this firmware issue.

Because if they knew how to fix it, it would have been fixed by now.

@HamatoYoshi I'm inclined to believe this.

Didn't a lot of this happen with Scalebound?

There was a lot of "development is going well" then it got cancelled in 2017.

Not sure if this actually sounds promising or not.

So after nearly 4 years, they still don't have anything to show us?

The guy said "we like to show things whenever we are ready to show them".

So 4 years go by and they are still not ready to show anything? It doesn't sound like "things are going well" if after 4 years, they still have nothing to show.

We still get the same old "development is going well".

I just want to know if it'll be playable in portable?

@Savino nah, nobody uses that saying because it isn't correct, very rarely is first impressions indicative of a last impression.

But look i don't really care, I'm not gonna bother arguing with you two over making some pre conceived notion that a game is great purely by looking at some gameplay trailer.

You both want to judge a book by its cover, then great, go ahead. Nobody is stopping you, no matter how wrong you may be.

The very fact that you even think like that discourages me to even engage with either of you.

So have a good day.

@Slowdive like i said.

You do you, you wanna judge a book by its cover then knock yourself out.

But ignore is a good idea, i can't be bothered to see more of your ridiculous conclusions on here too.

You were quite the commenter on the Bayonetta thread too, so yeah i can see you fitting perfectly on ignore.

@Aneira the other guy kinda looks like Fidel Castro with a cap.

@Slowdive you are literally judging a book by its cover.

Calling a game great before even REVIEWS are available is ridiculous.

Look i don't care you do you, i actually thought you originally meant to type something else.

But nope you are fully judging a book only by its cover, not even the summary.

"Looking at the cover and saying yep, great book."

Like you've read it.

But hey you do you man 😂

@Savino foods and love are different.

Did you ever watch a movie trailer and say "yep thats a 10 out of 10 movie, i just know it, it'll be remembered as the greatest movie ever" - the movie is called Gigli starring Ben Afleck and Jennifer Lopez.

Yeah that logic doesn't work with movies or games.

Have you ever heard the term... "don't judge a book by its cover"

Well he's literally judging a book by its cover.

The guy on the left kinda looks like Val Kilmer 😂

@Slowdive lol no.

Thats just ridiculous.

You can't call a game great until you've played it. Doesn't matter how you try and twist this, what you said makes no sense.

You do you though, 🤣

@onex yeah i get that.

But you can't call a game great when you haven't played it.

That just doesn't make any sense.

So glad i didn't waste my time or money on this game.

If you can actually call it a game, it's more like a demo, from what i hear, it hasn't been touched since they released it.

Good to see the franchise getting love. Hope it does well.

I have no intention of buying this though, but i hope it does well all the same.

@Slowdive huh?

How do you know?

The game hasn't been released yet, how can you say "what a game"... when it hasn't been released yet?

Imagine saying "what a game" after pre ordering Cyberpunk 2077 before it was released.

Save that statement for after it's been released lol.

I'm not sold on this game.

I need to see how much content it has, the price seems to steep when games like Hollow Knight cost a fraction of the price and have a ton of content in them.

I'll hold off until reviews and possibly a sale.

This was expected.

I don't think the direct had anything to do with it. Or rather it had everything to do with it, in a manner of speaking.

Nintendo's shares went up prior to the direct, as did most companies involved in E3, prior to E3.

Then obviously as they put their cards on the table, the hype dies down and the shares dip a little.

It actually happens every E3. So this is just totally normal stuff.

I think its on both him and Nintendo, i imagine that Platinum told Nintendo they are making Bayonetta 3 back in 2017, so Nintendo told them to announce it.

I guess the lack of any tangible news regarding the game is because Platinum haven't actually been working on it.

I don't think the lack of any news for the game is on Nintendo though, i would imagine that if Platinum had something to show off, Nintendo would of let them do it, they let them announce the game 4 years ago so i don't see what reason they would have to not let them show us anything. Unless there is nothing to show.

It's definitely Nintendo's fault that it was announced so early but i think going forward, the lack of news related to the game is on Platinum.

The two Zelda games are all i ever wanted from the Wii U library.

I hope they fix this soon 😫