Calling it now - Turnabout Return will be the case where Edgeworth shows up, and the trailers featuring him have been fooling people into thinking that he's in the standard game.
OH HELL NAW says Capcom, as they release DLC that no one can help but buy because it features EDGEWORTH WITH GLASSES.
Well, Nintendo tend to go all out when they do DLC. Just look at NSLU's 80+ levels. At least we don't need to worry about single levels and microtransactions.
@ThomasBW84 Yeah, but you don't specifically shoot arrows through the mouths of humans. Just saying that Nintendo would never say anything positive about this, since it conflicts with the tone of the Zelda series to some extent.
I think it's telling that I've played everything on this list and they're the ONLY 3DS games I've enjoyed. I really shouldn't have bought this thing so soon. Then again, perhaps Sonic Lost World can fix that.
@CaPPa Please at least make sure you know the difference between an FPS and a TPS before making sweeping sarcastic remarks, because it just makes you seem rather ignorant and your sarcasm turns back on you.
Thank you, signed everyone who cares enough to know what Insomniac is actually making.
@MadAdam81 Spyro was one of the most popular franchises on PS1, just behind Crash. Just like Skylanders will inevitably decline in popularity within six-seven years (approx. one console cycle).
@Sentinator Ah, but the Kinect was simply an EyeToy (Sony), just 9001 times more accurate! CHECKMATE! (In all seriousness though I see your point about the respective motion add-ons)
Although I would also say that, if you like FPSs in general but Killzone felt too samey, Resistance is the other Sony FPS series and is different enough that you might like that one instead.
@Sentinator I will definitely give you Killzone as totally overrated. I think Killzone 2 raised the bar for PS3 visuals so high upon release (that's pretty much a fact) that reviewers forgot that it was otherwise just a Halo clone. Don't ask me why they didn't come to their senses come Killzone 3.
@Caryslan Exactly. And it needs to be reiterated that Price obviously isn't a blind fanboy, as they have just recently gone to great lengths to have the ability to go multiplat.
@SanderEvers I'm not making my own standards, here. Is this not what has happened in the past? When games are still being released for an older gen and are also beginning to be released for a newer gen, journalists will refer to the newer gen as the next-gen and the older gen as either last-gen or current-gen. This is because they obviously aren't referring to the next next-gen, because those are six years away at least. And if they referred to a game that came out last week as last-gen while the PS4 hasn't even come out yet, that would seriously screw with the English language's tense grammar.
And this is why we have these arguments. You make a point, I make a counter-point, then after that you make a snarky counter-counter-point that rather sharply discredits all of my point, and then I type this paragraph in which, because of language convention and how people interpret things, I cannot help but seem counter-snarky while typing, even though I am not trying to be. And then it devolves into a poopiedoodledingdong-fest where neither of us will really make any good, argumentative points and will just be at each other's throats instead.
@SanderEvers I'd say it's more like; the systems you are saying are current gen will be referred to as next-gen until the systems you say are last gen are removed from any and all spotlight, which has already happened to the Wii.
@Sentinator To be fair, I'd say a third-person adventure game on Uncharted's scale had (as still has, to some extent) only ever really been done on a Sony console, although that's only one example.
In short, I think the arguments about 'next-gen meaning the console's time of release' and 'next-gen meaning the amount of raw power a system has' have gone on long enough, and those terms are what cause the problem. If that term didn't exist, there wouldn't be this problem (of course, there would be other problems, like coming up with a suitable term with the same meaning )
As someone who is a huge Insomniac fan and a person who tries not to take sides on the whole Nintendo sucks/is still great and WiiU is current-gen hardware/WiiU is next-gen because it's part of this console cycle debates, I think what he says is... fair enough, if a tad harsh. If they want to develop games for systems that have specs akin to the PS4 (Xbox probably will), then obviously they aren't developing for WiiU. However, I think he's just pouring oil on the fire by saying Wii U is 'last-gen'.
The two definitions of 'insert-gen' are starting so many pointless arguments, perhaps it's simply the term itself that needs to go away.
Ted Price probably, admittedly, should have said 'We aren't developing for WiiU right now' and left it at that, or if he needed to go further he should have left it at 'we are only considering the more powerful next-gen consoles ATM'.
I hope none of that sounds like I'm taking sides, because really I don't care what gen the WiiU is. I expect an awesome HD Metroid, and if I get it, I'm happy.
The only 3D Zelda I've never dabbled in, due to it's lack of re-releases and the fact that first-party Ninty games on the GC can fetch $150 in NZ these days.
Yeah, NintyLife, would you add to that 'reaching out for clarification' and ask if that includes Metroid Prime 3? Because if it does that really sucks for anyone entering the Metroid fanbase late.
That comment about WiiConnect24 indicates that Metroid Prime 3/Trilogy's friend credit system will no longer function, so I'm glad I got my bobblehead and Screenshot tool last month!
@chiptoon Considering how much CoD sells these days over everything else, your typical gamer these days probably looks like your typical 10-20 year old male, assuming a war FPS is directed at males (it is)
I love hearing about gamer girls, simply because it diminishes the stereotype in my head that I'll never find the girl for me because none of them will be particularly impressed with how much time I spend gaming (all of my spare time, really ). If I was with a girl like her, however, I'd be the one who'd have to try to compensate! I have piles of games, but dat console list! Of course, @missgamergirl, I'm not trying to sound creepy
Well, after reading most of these comments for two days now, I conclude that you guys are possibly making a bit too much of an issue out of this. I also conclude that i have read nothing that will affect Ubisoft in the slightest, all I've gathered is that they're losing about 700 sales. OH CRAP GUYS WAHT ARE WE GONNA DO 700 SALES GONE!
Well, as someone without a Wii U, this is great news (although I can see how it would be crap for those with Wii Us), will be pre-ordering it on PS3 ASAP.
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Re: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destines DLC Won't Feature The Quiz in The West
Good, I think. While they could have localised the quizzes, unless they have some sort of storyline they didn't seem worth money in the first place.
Re: Shu Takumi Talks Ghost Trick, Ace Attorney
So what happened to that bright outlook on sales numbers?
Re: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies DLC Confirmed For The West
@Bass_X0
Ehh, doesn't need to feature Sissel and friends. Could feature the same gameplay and a totally different cast.
Re: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies DLC Confirmed For The West
Still need to play T&T, AJ and AAI:ME, but I have all three and will be buying DD as soon as I finish them/it comes out, whichever is first.
Anyone else wanting a sequel to Ghost Trick out of the AA/Ghost Trick team next?
Re: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies Has Some DLC in Japan
Calling it now - Turnabout Return will be the case where Edgeworth shows up, and the trailers featuring him have been fooling people into thinking that he's in the standard game.
OH HELL NAW says Capcom, as they release DLC that no one can help but buy because it features EDGEWORTH WITH GLASSES.
Re: First Impressions: Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
A problem I have with it is that, in it's current state, it really doesn't look like it couldn't be done on Wii hardware.
Re: Exclusive: Zelda's Aonuma: We're Looking Into Going "Beyond The Disc" With DLC
Well, Nintendo tend to go all out when they do DLC. Just look at NSLU's 80+ levels. At least we don't need to worry about single levels and microtransactions.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Should Aim to Produce Mature, Genre-Defining Storytelling Experiences
Why des NLife turn that into goshdarn?
we are now enforcing the community rule against profanity. if you make an issue of it, expect repercussions. k8smum
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Should Aim to Produce Mature, Genre-Defining Storytelling Experiences
Gosh darn. This gosh darn comments section.
Re: Alarm Raised After Tekken Producer Goes AWOL, Doesn't Turn Up For Work
Doesn't seem legit to me, but you never know
#Poe'sLaw
Re: Guys, This Is How You Make A Live-Action Zelda Movie
@ThomasBW84 Yeah, but you don't specifically shoot arrows through the mouths of humans. Just saying that Nintendo would never say anything positive about this, since it conflicts with the tone of the Zelda series to some extent.
Re: Guys, This Is How You Make A Live-Action Zelda Movie
Well, that wasn't violent and contradicting in tone at all >_>
Re: Feature: Our Top 10 3DS Games - Summer 2013
I think it's telling that I've played everything on this list and they're the ONLY 3DS games I've enjoyed. I really shouldn't have bought this thing so soon. Then again, perhaps Sonic Lost World can fix that.
Re: Review: The King of Fighters '99 ( / Neo Geo)
What are the bets that this is probably the Wii Shop's swansong?
Re: Review: The Starship Damrey (3DS eShop)
Sounds a tad like Hotel Dusk, if it was sci-fi. Will look into it.
Re: Did Sumo Digital Just Tease A Sonic Racing And Mario Kart Crossover?
Calling it now, Sonic will be in Kart U, but only the one Sonic character.
Re: Insomniac Not Working On Wii U, Considers It More "Current Gen" Than "Next Gen"
@CaPPa Please at least make sure you know the difference between an FPS and a TPS before making sweeping sarcastic remarks, because it just makes you seem rather ignorant and your sarcasm turns back on you.
Thank you, signed everyone who cares enough to know what Insomniac is actually making.
Re: Insomniac Not Working On Wii U, Considers It More "Current Gen" Than "Next Gen"
@bunnyking 8/10 perfect post would read again
Re: Insomniac Not Working On Wii U, Considers It More "Current Gen" Than "Next Gen"
@MadAdam81 Spyro was one of the most popular franchises on PS1, just behind Crash. Just like Skylanders will inevitably decline in popularity within six-seven years (approx. one console cycle).
Re: Insomniac Not Working On Wii U, Considers It More "Current Gen" Than "Next Gen"
@Sentinator Ah, but the Kinect was simply an EyeToy (Sony), just 9001 times more accurate! CHECKMATE! (In all seriousness though I see your point about the respective motion add-ons)
Re: Insomniac Not Working On Wii U, Considers It More "Current Gen" Than "Next Gen"
Although I would also say that, if you like FPSs in general but Killzone felt too samey, Resistance is the other Sony FPS series and is different enough that you might like that one instead.
Re: Insomniac Not Working On Wii U, Considers It More "Current Gen" Than "Next Gen"
@Sentinator I will definitely give you Killzone as totally overrated. I think Killzone 2 raised the bar for PS3 visuals so high upon release (that's pretty much a fact) that reviewers forgot that it was otherwise just a Halo clone. Don't ask me why they didn't come to their senses come Killzone 3.
Re: Insomniac Not Working On Wii U, Considers It More "Current Gen" Than "Next Gen"
@Caryslan Exactly. And it needs to be reiterated that Price obviously isn't a blind fanboy, as they have just recently gone to great lengths to have the ability to go multiplat.
Re: Insomniac Not Working On Wii U, Considers It More "Current Gen" Than "Next Gen"
@SanderEvers I'm not making my own standards, here. Is this not what has happened in the past? When games are still being released for an older gen and are also beginning to be released for a newer gen, journalists will refer to the newer gen as the next-gen and the older gen as either last-gen or current-gen. This is because they obviously aren't referring to the next next-gen, because those are six years away at least. And if they referred to a game that came out last week as last-gen while the PS4 hasn't even come out yet, that would seriously screw with the English language's tense grammar.
And this is why we have these arguments. You make a point, I make a counter-point, then after that you make a snarky counter-counter-point that rather sharply discredits all of my point, and then I type this paragraph in which, because of language convention and how people interpret things, I cannot help but seem counter-snarky while typing, even though I am not trying to be. And then it devolves into a poopiedoodledingdong-fest where neither of us will really make any good, argumentative points and will just be at each other's throats instead.
Re: Insomniac Not Working On Wii U, Considers It More "Current Gen" Than "Next Gen"
@SanderEvers I'd say it's more like; the systems you are saying are current gen will be referred to as next-gen until the systems you say are last gen are removed from any and all spotlight, which has already happened to the Wii.
Re: Insomniac Not Working On Wii U, Considers It More "Current Gen" Than "Next Gen"
@Sentinator To be fair, I'd say a third-person adventure game on Uncharted's scale had (as still has, to some extent) only ever really been done on a Sony console, although that's only one example.
Re: Insomniac Not Working On Wii U, Considers It More "Current Gen" Than "Next Gen"
@Harrison_Peter @Peach64
Those.
Re: Insomniac Not Working On Wii U, Considers It More "Current Gen" Than "Next Gen"
@dizzy_boy To be fair they're going multiplat with Fuse, so it's not like it would be if say Naughty Dog did the same thing
Re: Insomniac Not Working On Wii U, Considers It More "Current Gen" Than "Next Gen"
In short, I think the arguments about 'next-gen meaning the console's time of release' and 'next-gen meaning the amount of raw power a system has' have gone on long enough, and those terms are what cause the problem. If that term didn't exist, there wouldn't be this problem (of course, there would be other problems, like coming up with a suitable term with the same meaning )
Re: Insomniac Not Working On Wii U, Considers It More "Current Gen" Than "Next Gen"
@DESS-M-8 Different strokes, I suppose. I think Uncharted is overrated and other Sony exclusives are much better (R&C, infamous, Resistance, GoW, Sly)
Re: Insomniac Not Working On Wii U, Considers It More "Current Gen" Than "Next Gen"
As someone who is a huge Insomniac fan and a person who tries not to take sides on the whole Nintendo sucks/is still great and WiiU is current-gen hardware/WiiU is next-gen because it's part of this console cycle debates, I think what he says is... fair enough, if a tad harsh. If they want to develop games for systems that have specs akin to the PS4 (Xbox probably will), then obviously they aren't developing for WiiU. However, I think he's just pouring oil on the fire by saying Wii U is 'last-gen'.
The two definitions of 'insert-gen' are starting so many pointless arguments, perhaps it's simply the term itself that needs to go away.
Ted Price probably, admittedly, should have said 'We aren't developing for WiiU right now' and left it at that, or if he needed to go further he should have left it at 'we are only considering the more powerful next-gen consoles ATM'.
I hope none of that sounds like I'm taking sides, because really I don't care what gen the WiiU is. I expect an awesome HD Metroid, and if I get it, I'm happy.
Re: Feature: Celebrating Ten Years of The Wind Waker
The only 3D Zelda I've never dabbled in, due to it's lack of re-releases and the fact that first-party Ninty games on the GC can fetch $150 in NZ these days.
Re: Harold Ramis Glad He Turned Down Mario Movie
Mortal Kombat still holds the best videogame movie crown. Max Payne still holds the most generic videogame movie crown.
Re: New Legend Of Zelda Title Confirmed For Nintendo 3DS, Due Late 2013
MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHH
Re: Review: Finding Nemo: Escape to the Big Blue (3DS)
Nice job reusing DS screenshots, guys
Re: Interview: Michael Pachter On Wii U, 3DS And The Challenges Facing Nintendo This Generation
After reading this, I think it's reasonable to say that anyone who can't at least see his point is... a tad misguided.
Re: Nintendo to Pull the Plug on Several Online Wii Channels
Yeah, NintyLife, would you add to that 'reaching out for clarification' and ask if that includes Metroid Prime 3? Because if it does that really sucks for anyone entering the Metroid fanbase late.
Re: Nintendo to Pull the Plug on Several Online Wii Channels
That comment about WiiConnect24 indicates that Metroid Prime 3/Trilogy's friend credit system will no longer function, so I'm glad I got my bobblehead and Screenshot tool last month!
Re: Talking Point: Review Scores and Unwinnable Arguments
I'll buy anything that gets a ten from you guys! This purchasing strategem hasn't steered me wrong yet.
Re: Feature: Series Reboots That Have Divided Gamers
Few of these are actual rebots rather than sequels. KI:U is far and away the best example of an actual rboot.
Re: Crytek CEO: "The Notion Of A Single Player Experience Has To Go Away"
@BestBuck123 That.
Re: Two Tribes: Toki Tori 2 Is A Metroidvania-Style Experience
I thought it was a puzzle game?
Re: Review: Transformers Prime (Wii U)
WHEN ALL HELL'S BREAKING LOOSE YOU BE RIDIN' THE EYE OF THE STO-O-OORM! YOU GOT THE TOUCH! YOU GOT THE MOTIOOON!
Re: Ninterview: Heather "Miss Gamer Girl" Cascioli
@chiptoon Considering how much CoD sells these days over everything else, your typical gamer these days probably looks like your typical 10-20 year old male, assuming a war FPS is directed at males (it is)
Re: Ninterview: Heather "Miss Gamer Girl" Cascioli
I love hearing about gamer girls, simply because it diminishes the stereotype in my head that I'll never find the girl for me because none of them will be particularly impressed with how much time I spend gaming (all of my spare time, really ). If I was with a girl like her, however, I'd be the one who'd have to try to compensate! I have piles of games, but dat console list! Of course, @missgamergirl, I'm not trying to sound creepy
Re: Wii U To Get An "Exclusive" Rayman Legends Demo Soon
Well, after reading most of these comments for two days now, I conclude that you guys are possibly making a bit too much of an issue out of this. I also conclude that i have read nothing that will affect Ubisoft in the slightest, all I've gathered is that they're losing about 700 sales. OH CRAP GUYS WAHT ARE WE GONNA DO 700 SALES GONE!
Re: Wii U To Get An "Exclusive" Rayman Legends Demo Soon
What about a PS3 demo?
Re: Reaction: The Rayman Legends Delay Is a Low Blow, But The Apocalypse Isn't Here
Well, as someone without a Wii U, this is great news (although I can see how it would be crap for those with Wii Us), will be pre-ordering it on PS3 ASAP.
Re: Reaction: The Rayman Legends Delay Is a Low Blow, But The Apocalypse Isn't Here
TO 600!
Re: Rayman Legends No Longer a Wii U Exclusive, Delayed to September
Can some NLife dude come in and tell us if this indeed an NLife commenting record?