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@TrueWiiMaster YEs super mario bros has all of those things, and was great for it's time. But to be honest, it sucks horribly compared to super mario galaxy... It's an awesome classic but it just isn't even comparable to what we have now.

@TrueWiiMaster You're purposefully trying to misinterpret the reply for the sake of the argument. Puzzle games obviously don't NEED stories, racing games obviously don't NEED stories. And are you seriously considering that the early games of this generation are now considered old...? Wth..? OLD is last gen, NOT current gen.

@TrueWiiMaster Little Big Planet, Red Dead, LA Noir, Heavy Rain, BF3, MW3, huge variety of downloadable titles (This by itself destroys PS2 in terms of variety), Dead Space, Batman arkham city, etc. GET a PS3 and then you can judge it invariety of games. PS2 had variety, sure, but I have BOTH and can say that the PS3 overall is better and has a hell of a lot more variety. And plus online shooters are amazing, especially BF3, you should actually TRY one before saying they are all generic. I have BF3 and have played MW3 and they are completely different games.

@TrueWiiMaster Little Big Planet, Red Dead, LA Noir, Heavy Rain, BF3, MW3, huge variety of downloadable titles (This by itself destroys PS2 in terms of variety), Dead Space, Batman arkham city, etc. GET a PS3 and then you can judge it invariety of games. PS2 had variety, sure, but I have BOTH and can say that the PS2 overall is better and has a hell of a lot more variety. And plus online shooters are amazing, especially BF3, you should actually TRY one before saying they are all generic. I have BF3 and have played MW3 and they are completely different games.

@TrueWiiMaster And Metroid Prime 2's graphics fail compared to Halo 2... I remember renting both of them back in the days and I enjoyed Halo 2 a lot more than Metroid Prime 2. Only real reason really is because I was like 8 or 9 and MP2 was too complex. Metroid Prime series is great but I have all 3 last gen systems and graphically the Xbox annihilated the competition. Look at Just Cause, Chronicles Of Riddick, etc... Gamecube and PS2 didn't stand a chance against the xbox's graphics

@TrueWiiMaster STOP bringing up games of the past. ITS THE YEAR 2012. NOT 1983. Story matters. Graphics matter (It always has mattered rofl, what do you think the bit wars were). Gameplay matters. If a game have every bad but gameplay then it would be considered terrible. The way the game plays is the most important, but without the icing which is graphics, sound, story, etc... THE GAME WILL SUCK. Did Pong have good gameplay? Yes. Good sound? Nope. Good graphics by today's standards? Nope. Good story? Nope. Just good gameplay. Compare Pong to a game that sucks by today's standards... Duke Nukem. Pong was good back in 1978... Duke Nukem sucks in the year 2012. Which would you rather play...?

And PS2 beating the PS3? I love my PS2 but you have no idea what you're talking about. Especially saying the ps3 has no variety.

@TrueWiiMaster Calling games like Halo and Unreal Tournament (Wth?) casual just shows that you don't know anything about real current gen gaming. PLAYING a game is nothing like HAVING the game. I played saints row 2 and thought it was amazing. Then I bought it and it actually is garbage.

@Gamesake I actually have a gamecube and xbox.... Saying the gamecube has better graphics is like saying the xbox 360 has better graphics than a PC... Later xbox games are comparable to the average xbox 360 game -_-

@TrueWiiMaster What are you talking about...? Just get a PS3/360... You have absolutely no idea and no experience in anything you are saying.... Just because a game has better graphics means NOTHING. I like the games because they are engaging, fun, and etc. All the games you stated ONLY have good gameplay..IN order for a game to be excellent it must be good all around. Gameplay, sound, graphics, story, and all. ALL of it matters, this isn't 1983.

Aren't you guys TIRED of buying systems with gimmicky motion controls and processing power so bad that it is not able to keep up with multiplatform games??? I have a Wii and I really regret getting it.

Power is the most important thing right up there with good games and a decent controller. That's the ONLY thing separating next gen from current gen. Don't keep looking at sales, because we all know if the Wii was the same price as the competition at launch it would have not stood a chance in sales... Nintendo is amazing but this new tactic of releasing last gen systems and calling them next gen is frustrating and if they continue long term it would most definitely be the death of Nintendo's reputation as a game company.

I'd have no problem if the Wii was the least powerful of this gen but still could keep up with competition and still could handle ports of games, but no rofl. The Wii is to weak the handle even the weakest games on the PS3/360...

@TrueWiiMaster Quality software isn't made for game systems that were made in 2006 and use hardware that was cutting age back in 2001... The real gaming community has nothing to do with online fps games --. And plus I notice most of the people here always bash online fps games. Have you even played one? No even more so, do you even own one? --

@VincentV Wrong... The wii's processor is 729 mhz while the xbox's was 733... And plus the Xbox was overall more powerful and way better with shaders.

@TrueWiiMaster Playing Nintendo brand games doesn't make you a fan... Calling anything with a Nintendo label slapped great only makes you a fool who is easily scammed.

@TrueWiiMaster YES that does make them better..> It's because they have more to offer and more content to enjoy, along with online play to keep the game alive. Sure all of those other games are fun, but when you actually play a true current gen game you would know it's like comparing a PS2 game to a PS3 GAME

@Assassin87 I am talking about the Wii... And it's not Nintendo bashing it's Wii bashing. Any real Nintendo fan would know that Nintendo made a HUGE change when they made the Wii, and it's for the worse. If Nintendo models the Wii U tactic after the success of the Wii then Nintendo, in terms of consoles, will have lost complete respect among the real gaming community. NO games don't have to be violent to be fun, look at mario. But games do have to be up to date... And the fact that the Wii is less powerful than a last gen system should be an outrage among Nintendo fans.

@TrueWiiMaster I was talking about a real Dead Space game. All of the CODs on the wii fail compared to other counterparts. And you give the Wii too much credit in comparison to the gamecube... You do know the Wii is only something like 1.5x more powerful right? I mean I can't stress power enough... Why weren't the best games of this gen (ie red dead redemption, Elder Scrolls: Skyrim, or even Grand Theft Auto IV/ upcoming V) on the Wii? Tell me, I mean power doesn't matter right?

Heck I love my gamecube over the Wii and the gamecube is last gen.

@TrueWiiMaster Obviously you don't actually HAVE a PS3/360. I have bought every NIntendo system that came after the snes... EVERY SINGLE ONE. I have loved Nintendo ever since, and then they release this garbage called the Wii... Do you understand just how much of a failure it is? Oh and varied gaming categories? This makes it obvious that you don't have a current gen system. 45% of the Wii's games are meant for little kids and almost every game that you try to name that is comparable with current gen standards is TRASH (with the exception of any first party game). Mad World is garbage and I have better games than that on my Xbox/PS2... The Conduit is generic garbage. Does the Wii have Red Dead Redemption? Dead Space 2? GTA IV? ALL of these games are very unique. Even games like Battlefield 3/MW3 are unique, I can say this because I HAVE battlefield 3 and have played MW3. You can't judge any system until you have both experiences. I have them, and I can say the Wii is complete garbage. It is NOTHING like the traditional Nintendo game consoles like the N64 or even the gamecube. And it's hilarious because the Wii is weaker than the Xbox, heck the Wii is weaker than the netbook i'm wirting this comment on right now... It's processor is only 1.5 GHZ and ROFL the wii is also weaker than my PC from the year 2002... It's processor is clocked at 2.4 ghz.... It's ridiculous. and YES processing power matters a lot. In police chase in say GTA IV... Would you rather have really good AI cops that there could be 15-20 of them on screen at once.. Or bad AI cops who you can only have 5-6 on screen?

@Lordlz The idea in general is terrible...And the Wii U having the same controller as the Wii...? The Wii U will fail in impressing REAL nintendo fans if they continue on like this. They've failed us once with the WIi, and if any of you don't think the WIi was a failure either you've never played a PS3/360 (OR EVEN A PSP... Even it's games are on par with the Wiis') or you're just not a fan at all, just a blind fanboy. I am proud of NIntendo for their success with the 3DS but they are doing horrible in terms of impressing fans with the Wii, and it seems the Wii U will only be an extension of that garbage

@Assassin87 You lack of basic understanding of how power can affect gameplay. Get an actual GAMING system like the PS3/360 and throw away that toy (the Wii). I still regret getting that piece of garbage.

The new controller is trash. I have to say it. I have do the exact same thing with a PSVita and a PS3. Nintendo should get smart and drop that garbage in place for 3DS/Wii U connectivity similar to sony's remote play. Some may call it stealing ideas that that's what keeps the gaming industry competitive

And it seems that you guys have no idea what technical specs means for a system. POWER is the only thing that will distinguish the Wii U from the Wii. And the only thing that will make the Wii U "next gen".

This isn't just a rumor anymore... Tons of developers are pretty much saying the same thing... Which is :The Wii will NOT keep up with the next gen consoles just as it was this gen.

If Nintendo pulls this crap again then I am officially no longer a NIntendo fan. I have went with it last gen but NOT two gens in a row. And the thing about this is that Nintendo being a gen behind even the last gen consoles isn't uncommon! The Wii was less powerful than the original Xbox.

@Magic-Wind Vaio is still a good PC.

@Assassin87 Of course Sony has enough money to release a new console that is drastically more powerful than the PS3, it would be idiotic to think otherwise. Sony is NOT a poor company.

@Assassin87 I said as good as PC games are now... Obviously. The PS3 has considered pretty good in terms of hardware when it came out, and so will the PS4. And it will definitely be comparable to most high end gaming PCs being put out nowadays.

@Magic-Wind Sony is broke right now? Wth are you talking about? --. Sony already makes gaming PCs anyway --

@Assassin87 Yes.. The PSVita can PLAY PS3 games not only stream them. At the moment Sony is definitely prepping ps vita's remote play to be more accessible to more PS3 games of course, but the fact is that you can play PS3 games on the vita

@Magic-Wind Yes there will, I don't know about you but the Zelda tech demo I saw was absolutely laughable... I have PS3 games that look better than that. processing power and graphical power = drastic differences in graphics. Wii U will end up looking as good as an average PS3 while the PS4 will be looking as good as PC games do now.

@Magic-Wind I'm sorry but what? Do you know how big of a problem it would be if it isn't at least 2x the power of the PS3?

Nope, the idea actually was before the Wii U was even announced. The PSP had it, but the PSVita has it now so you can actually play PS3 games from it. It was not stolen from Nintendo.

@Assassin87 It's called remote play -_-. You can play your PS3 games anywhere as long as you're near a wifi hot spot, WITH YOUR VITA.

And please don't get to talking about prices, nope, a next gen system wouldn't cost 500-600$, not even in that range -_-. 300-350$ machine would ensure that Nintendo could get a nice console out that might be behind the other consoles, but not drastically behind like the Wii is with the PS3/360. Maybe in the middle like the gamecube was, anything's better than the same disgusting tactic showcased this gen.

And hardware means a heck of a lot more than you guys who don't know much about gaming make it out to be.

Processing power is needed for better games. Say Red Dead Redemption, PS3 and 360 exclusive. Why? Because the Wii is simply too weak to run it, and if they did port it to the Wii, it would have graphics that look like San Andreas for PS2 and the map will have to be down scaled by a lot. Without processing power, the Wii U will be another failure to Nintendo fans waiting for a good console. All of you who say you don't care about graphics, that's fine. But when it comes to processing power YOU BETTER CARE, that's the only thing that separates this gen from the next. You obviously haven't played a PS3 if you think hardware doesn't mean anything.

@Assassin87 What is the innovation? The new controllers that allows you to take your Wii U games anywhere? You do know that the PSVita and PS3 have the same functionality right....? There is no "innovation" with the Wii U, and I AM a Nintendo fan but I am sick of buying system that are weaker than the last gen consoles. (The Wii is weaker than the original Xbox). The Nintendo fanbase is weaker than it has ever been before, no it's not because of the emerging competition, it's because Nintendo keeps getting destroyed in terms of home consoles because developers can't develop games with next gen standards. The Wii is a gen behind the PS3/360, and I know this because I have a Wii and a PS3.

Nintendo will lose pretty much their entire fanbase if they keep this idiotic chain up. Half was already lost last gen with the Wii, the ONLY good games to come out on it that were comparable to PS3/360 exclusives were the Nintendo made games. STOP making weak systems Nintendo, it's unacceptable and makes me almost ashamed at this point to call myself a Nintendo fan... The only good console you have out right now is the 3DS, and that's ridiculous. I DON'T care about price if the games will be on par with the PS4/Xbox 720.

God, not another Wii.... Wth is Nintendo thinking releasing these underpowered pieces of garbage? DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE 360 AND PS3 ERA IS ALMOST OVER!?

Super Mario 3D Land is so overrated, sure if it was as long as maybe super mario galaxy 1 or 2 then I would definitely say it was #1, but it was a short game with short levels and no difficulty...

This is the worst week Nintendo has had.

What was the point of putting demos in the EShop if they aren't going to be consistent..

The Wii was a failure in my eyes... The processing power was horrible so it missed out on the greatest games of this generation, like Red Dead Redemption...

@shingi_70

Although some of the games were good, the majority only proved my point further...

I completely agree. If you guys actually played video games you would know it too. I admit, there are a lot of great Japanese games, but the majority are just the same rehashed RPGs and garbage like Final Fantasy. Japanese games are absolutely TERRIBLE. I could say that US games are the same rehashed FPS games but then they aren't... If you actually played each other you would notice each one has something different and unique to it's own series. Like Battlefield with vehicles and large maps. Or COD with small maps and perks. Or even Medal Of Honor, which is a classic and although not original still is fun to play. The SAME rpg games coming out every couple of months in Japan is just ridiculous. Chibi anime characters are simply NOT fun to play with anymore. Wth can't Japan make a game as revolutionary as GTA4 with it's amazing physics engine? Or maybe Red Dead Redemption with it's huge map and beautiful storyline? Japanese games are getting generic and even more terrible by the year.

Once again religion kills off another good game.

It should focus on the Wii U and announced plenty of new 3DS plans and games, because it looks to me like the PSVita's lineup has the 3DS beaten right now..

I think more hardcore developers should start to come to the 3DS, I don't know about you guys but i'm tired of all these colorful childish games... I want Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas Stories... Or maybe Dead Space portable... Something that is actually fun, has good graphics, and a good story. Even I, a Nintendo fan, am getting a bit tired of seeing My Horsez on the 3DS and no other actually good games that aren't made by Nintendo.

@Portisanta Because everyone here isn't a 12 year old -_-.