@Ramouz this is the problem. We’re seeing a lot of examples now of old games or games that are not super technically demanding running way worse on Switch 2 - it’s really disappointing and not a good sign.
This has definitely been on the website a very long time. I read the same paragraph when I bought my Wii U a year ago. I remember because I was surprised about the mention of GBA games.
Iwata is wrong man for the job. He doesn't seem to have a clear focus on what he wants Nintendo to do/be and is oblivious to the fact that the main thing Nintendo have going from them is their great games.
Finally a Sonic Lost World demo! I really think ill like this game but the negative reviews have put me off a little bit, great to be able to try it first!
@skjia that's the thing - come Spring when everyone realises that their brand new £400 box isn't The Great Leap Forward they're being hyped up to be, Nintendo really have a chance to pull this back.
But they'll have to totally change their marketing strategy to do that, and nothing I've seen in the last 12 months suggests they're even willing to think about it unfortunately.
@JimLad agreed! They need to start selling the console with the Pro Controller for £100 less and leave the Gamepad as an optional extra for those who want to play off screen (it's only worthwhile feature in my opinion).
Most people I know bought the original Wii because it was a cheap alternative or cheap second console. For the last 12 months the Wii U has been at least £100 more expensive than the two competing consoles - and only because of the bloody Gamepad (which gamers don't even want!).
Nintendo certainly aren't doomed, but the Wii U might be. Nintendo haven't made enough of the year head start they had (they should have been marketing the hell out of the Wii U for 12 months straight) and now most gamers will be focusing on which of the Xbox/PS4 they want while the casual gamers don't even know the Wii U exists (when I bought mine from Argos in June, I was asked by the twenty-something man on the counter if it was an add-on for the Wii).
Having said that, once the 'next-gen' hype dies down and those systems are hit with software droughts of their own, I do believe there's the possibility gamers will turn to the Wii U for their fix (which will have a very decent catalogue of first party games at that point). However this all depends on whether or not Nintendo raise their game in marketing the Wii U to the general public and the gaming community at large, not just those who already know about it (and probably already own one).
I love Nintendo and I love my Wii U but, unless Nintendo change their strategy, I can't see the Wii U selling 9 million consoles by this time next year, let alone by the end of their financial year as they have projected.
@Funny_Moblin unfortunately Sunshine didn't sell so they went back to basics (I think there was a feature about it on these pages recently, but I could be wrong...) but I agree, they need to take Mario away from the Mushroom Kingdom again.
Still can't wait for 3D World, I just don't think it's going to be a very original experience. Incredibly fun, but not original.
Definitely Deus Ex for me. Played the original on the Xbox 360 and loved it. It's a good price and includes the DLC (which I never got round to buying) and enough improvements to make me want to play it through again. Such a shame it's probably going to get overlooked (again!).
Judging from personal experience with the demo, the controls are the major letdown with this game... They take a while to get used to and even then you never feel fully in control. There is a nagging feeling that the Nintendo press are so desperate for a hit, they're overscoring this one... Admittedly I've only played the demo, but it didn't feel like a 9/10 to me.
I'm struggling with the decision to get this or Rayman Legends - but then the last thing I need at the minute is another 2D platformer on my Wii U!
I agree with the comments regarding 'too much action', it just feels a little too chaotic and messy for me (and the controls take a lot of getting used to). I'm sure there'll be loads of people who love it, and maybe I'll grow to love it in time, but it's just giving me a headache at the minute!
This is just the go-to excuse for any third party developer at the moment... It's a chicken and the egg scenario - if new games were developed for the Wii U, there would be more interest in the Wii U, which would result in more games being developed for the Wii U.
We need a couple of brave third parties to buck the trend and bring their games to our console, but I'm afraid that the games industry is more about the bottom line than ever before (hence the continuous churning out of generic shooter games) and no one is interested in taking that risk.
Although I don't think the concept of the Wii U has been rejected, I do believe that the Gamepad is not as big a draw to the average consumer in the same way the Wii Remote was with the Wii.
The Wii Remote allowed a totally different style of play, a style of play that casual gamers could relate to and enjoy. No longer was playing games all about being hunched over a small control pad, hammering at a combination of buttons - now you could play games without having to learn which buttons did what. And no game showed this off better than the bundled launch title Wii Sports.
The Wii U doesn't have that same draw. Unfortunately casual gamers just see a traditional console with an unwieldy control pad while the more hardcore gamers aren't getting their ideal quota of third party shooters and dismiss the console as childish.
I love Nintendo and I love their games, but even I have yet to see anything that convinces me the Gamepad was the right way to go. I do enjoy using it but I must admit, unless I'm playing 'off screen', nine times out of ten I will use my Pro Controller. I've noticed even Nintendo have started including a Pro Controller in some of the Premium Pack bundles...
The only games I'll be buying digitally are those I can't actually buy a physical copy of. I'm still waiting to play Super Luigi U! Roll on Friday when I get my hands on the disc version.
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Re: Mystery Product Code Sparks Rumours Of A New Switch 2 Model
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Re: Nintendo Direct For Kirby Air Riders Announced For Thursday, 23rd October
This is… unnecessary.
Re: Dynasty Warriors: Origins Will Run At A "Fixed" 30fps On Switch 2
@Darthmoogle well said.
Re: Yooka-Replaylee Runs At 30fps On Switch 2, Team Investigating Performance Mode
@Ramouz this is the problem. We’re seeing a lot of examples now of old games or games that are not super technically demanding running way worse on Switch 2 - it’s really disappointing and not a good sign.
Re: Nintendo 64 Titles Heading to the Wii U Virtual Console
This has definitely been on the website a very long time. I read the same paragraph when I bought my Wii U a year ago. I remember because I was surprised about the mention of GBA games.
Re: Nintendo Direct: Special Mario Kart 8 Direct Shows New Features, Racers And Items
What's with the guy doing a bad Jeremy Clarksob impression in the UK Direct?
Re: Satoru Iwata Speaks Of The Need To "Redefine" Nintendo's Position In The Entertainment Industry
Iwata is wrong man for the job. He doesn't seem to have a clear focus on what he wants Nintendo to do/be and is oblivious to the fact that the main thing Nintendo have going from them is their great games.
Re: Nintendo Download: 21st November (Europe)
Finally a Sonic Lost World demo! I really think ill like this game but the negative reviews have put me off a little bit, great to be able to try it first!
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Resilience Against Wii U Criticism Emphasizes Its Longevity
@skjia that's the thing - come Spring when everyone realises that their brand new £400 box isn't The Great Leap Forward they're being hyped up to be, Nintendo really have a chance to pull this back.
But they'll have to totally change their marketing strategy to do that, and nothing I've seen in the last 12 months suggests they're even willing to think about it unfortunately.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Resilience Against Wii U Criticism Emphasizes Its Longevity
@JimLad agreed! They need to start selling the console with the Pro Controller for £100 less and leave the Gamepad as an optional extra for those who want to play off screen (it's only worthwhile feature in my opinion).
Most people I know bought the original Wii because it was a cheap alternative or cheap second console. For the last 12 months the Wii U has been at least £100 more expensive than the two competing consoles - and only because of the bloody Gamepad (which gamers don't even want!).
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Resilience Against Wii U Criticism Emphasizes Its Longevity
Nintendo certainly aren't doomed, but the Wii U might be. Nintendo haven't made enough of the year head start they had (they should have been marketing the hell out of the Wii U for 12 months straight) and now most gamers will be focusing on which of the Xbox/PS4 they want while the casual gamers don't even know the Wii U exists (when I bought mine from Argos in June, I was asked by the twenty-something man on the counter if it was an add-on for the Wii).
Having said that, once the 'next-gen' hype dies down and those systems are hit with software droughts of their own, I do believe there's the possibility gamers will turn to the Wii U for their fix (which will have a very decent catalogue of first party games at that point). However this all depends on whether or not Nintendo raise their game in marketing the Wii U to the general public and the gaming community at large, not just those who already know about it (and probably already own one).
I love Nintendo and I love my Wii U but, unless Nintendo change their strategy, I can't see the Wii U selling 9 million consoles by this time next year, let alone by the end of their financial year as they have projected.
Re: Nintendo Download: 7th November (Europe)
Are these permanent discounts a sign of Ubisoft cutting its losses and moving to pastures new?
Also, after yesterday's revelation I was kind of expecting (hoping?) to see Super Mario Bros 3 on the Virtual Console this week...
Re: Video: Nintendo Shows Off Super Mario 3D World Stages and the Madness of Multiplayer
@Funny_Moblin unfortunately Sunshine didn't sell so they went back to basics (I think there was a feature about it on these pages recently, but I could be wrong...) but I agree, they need to take Mario away from the Mushroom Kingdom again.
Still can't wait for 3D World, I just don't think it's going to be a very original experience. Incredibly fun, but not original.
Re: This Is How Much Space Super Mario 3D World Will Gobble Up On Your Wii U
Great news. This has made my mind up - it'll be a midnight download on launch day for me!
Re: Nintendo Download: 24th October (Europe)
Definitely Deus Ex for me. Played the original on the Xbox 360 and loved it. It's a good price and includes the DLC (which I never got round to buying) and enough improvements to make me want to play it through again. Such a shame it's probably going to get overlooked (again!).
Re: Atari Founder Nolan Bushnell Claims Nintendo "Could Be On The Path To Irrelevance"
Well he would know all about the 'path to irrelevance'...
Re: Nintendo Download: 5th September (Europe)
Urgh - bad week. Nothing for me. The Wii U Virtual Console is desperate for some of Nintendo's big hitters.
Re: Nintendo Download: 29th August (Europe)
@Mainer82 I have a feeling that one will be on there before the release of Wind Waker HD...
Re: Nintendo Download: 29th August (Europe)
I wonder if we can expect the release of other VC Zelda games between now and the release of Wind Waker HD...?
Re: Video: Snazzy New Trailer Shows Off Wii U Exclusives
Nintendo should cut this down and put it on TV. Most people in the UK don't even know what a Wii U is!
Re: Review: The Wonderful 101 (Wii U)
Judging from personal experience with the demo, the controls are the major letdown with this game... They take a while to get used to and even then you never feel fully in control. There is a nagging feeling that the Nintendo press are so desperate for a hit, they're overscoring this one... Admittedly I've only played the demo, but it didn't feel like a 9/10 to me.
I'm struggling with the decision to get this or Rayman Legends - but then the last thing I need at the minute is another 2D platformer on my Wii U!
Re: Candle To Be Given Its Time To Shine On Wii U
Nintendo seem to be going all out to woo indie developers recently... And it's great news for us!
Re: Nintendo Download: 15th August (Europe)
It was actually the Polygon review I was referring to... that means there's at least two bad reviews going around :-S
Re: Nintendo Download: 15th August (Europe)
Ducktales Remastered has just received a horrible review from another well known games site... But that won't stop me picking it up on Thursday!
Re: The Wonderful 101 Demo Coming to Europe Today
Just played the demo... I'm disappointed.
I agree with the comments regarding 'too much action', it just feels a little too chaotic and messy for me (and the controls take a lot of getting used to). I'm sure there'll be loads of people who love it, and maybe I'll grow to love it in time, but it's just giving me a headache at the minute!
Re: John Carmack: Doom 3 BFG Edition Would Be Great On Wii U, But There's Not Enough Interest
This is just the go-to excuse for any third party developer at the moment... It's a chicken and the egg scenario - if new games were developed for the Wii U, there would be more interest in the Wii U, which would result in more games being developed for the Wii U.
We need a couple of brave third parties to buck the trend and bring their games to our console, but I'm afraid that the games industry is more about the bottom line than ever before (hence the continuous churning out of generic shooter games) and no one is interested in taking that risk.
Re: Satoru Iwata Emphasizes Nintendo's Desire to Produce Products That "Resonate" With Consumers
@Metaknight_3Raw it's hands down the best thing about the Wii U and Nintendo should make more of it. It's saved countless arguments in my house!
Re: IGN Editor: If Wii U Doesn't Pick Up, Nintendo Should Look To New Hardware
@ToniK totally agree. The Wii U has got me excited about games again.
Re: Satoru Iwata Emphasizes Nintendo's Desire to Produce Products That "Resonate" With Consumers
Although I don't think the concept of the Wii U has been rejected, I do believe that the Gamepad is not as big a draw to the average consumer in the same way the Wii Remote was with the Wii.
The Wii Remote allowed a totally different style of play, a style of play that casual gamers could relate to and enjoy. No longer was playing games all about being hunched over a small control pad, hammering at a combination of buttons - now you could play games without having to learn which buttons did what. And no game showed this off better than the bundled launch title Wii Sports.
The Wii U doesn't have that same draw. Unfortunately casual gamers just see a traditional console with an unwieldy control pad while the more hardcore gamers aren't getting their ideal quota of third party shooters and dismiss the console as childish.
I love Nintendo and I love their games, but even I have yet to see anything that convinces me the Gamepad was the right way to go. I do enjoy using it but I must admit, unless I'm playing 'off screen', nine times out of ten I will use my Pro Controller. I've noticed even Nintendo have started including a Pro Controller in some of the Premium Pack bundles...
Re: Nintendo Download: 1st August (Europe)
Harvest Moon for me.
Re: Pikmin 3 Listed As £39.99 On The Wii U eShop in The UK
The only games I'll be buying digitally are those I can't actually buy a physical copy of. I'm still waiting to play Super Luigi U! Roll on Friday when I get my hands on the disc version.