Well, there we have it folks. After more rumours than we care to count, a summer Nintendo Direct has been and gone and so we enter the time for reaction.
Before we get to offering you the chance to give your personal thoughts, however, let's briefly round up the biggies. We kicked off with a little more information about Pokémon Scarlet and Violet's upcoming DLC, The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero, before getting a whole bunch of Pikmin news including a closer look at Pikmin 4 and the shadow drop of the first two games in the series on the Switch eShop today!
As far as other big announcements go, it was all about Mario. We got a first look at [deep breath] a Super Mario RPG remake, a new game starring Princess Peach, Super Mario Bros. Wonder (a fresh 2D title), Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon making the jump to Switch, new Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope DLC and a look at the next wave of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe DLC. Phew! That's a lot...
There were, of course, many more announcements aside from those that we have mentioned above, so be sure to check out the full Direct stream for the complete rundown.
Overall, we would say that this was a pretty good time. We were expecting a complete Pikmin blowout (which, admittedly, it kind of was) so to see Mario taking centre stage was a wonderful (see what we did there?) surprise.
But what did you think? Was this Direct everything that you could have dreamed of, or did it leave you wanting more? Fill out the following poll and then take to the comments to give us your thoughts.
What were your highlights from the June 2023 Nintendo Direct? (14,247 votes)
- Pokémon Scarlet & Violet - The Teal Mask (Switch eShop)
- Sonic Superstars (Switch)
- Palia0.4%
- Persona 5 Tactica (Switch)1%
- MythForce0.5%
- Splatoon 3 (Switch)0.3%
- Detective Pikachu Returns (Switch)
- Super Mario RPG (Switch)
- Untitled Peach Game
- Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon (3DS)
- Batman Arkham Trilogy (Switch)
- Gloomhaven0.5%
- Just Dance 2024 Edition (Switch eShop)0.1%
- Silent Hope0.3%
- Fae Farm (Switch)0.2%
- Hot Wheels Unleashed 2: Turbocharged (Switch)0.1%
- Manic Mechanics0.1%
- Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope (Switch)0.3%
- Dragon Quest Monsters: The Dark Prince
- Pikmin 4 (Switch)
- Pikmin 1+2 (Switch)
- Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol. 1 (Switch eShop)
- Vampire Survivors
- Headbangers: Rhythm Royale (Switch eShop)0.2%
- Penny's Big Breakaway (Switch eShop)
- Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Course Pass Wave 5 (Switch eShop)
- Star Ocean: The Second Story R
- WarioWare: Move It! (Switch)
- Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom amiibo
- Super Mario Bros. Wonder (Switch)
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Personally I think it was the best "showcase" this year, so many surprises and great to see Dragon Quest Monsters make a return. So many games for the last three months of the year, Detective Pikachu, DQ monsters, Mario Rpg, new 2D mario, star ocean, Persona 5 tactica, Pokémon S/V DLC.
This has been one hell of a packed year for Nintendo, 2023 will be hard to top.
New 2D Mario....I don't care about anything else. That's enough to get "Totally Amazing" from me.
Very good Direct imo
(especially for Mario fans)
It was ok, leaning towards meh, but Mario saved the Direct for me.
Amazing Direct, and I don't even know if I would be buying any of these. People will always cry because their obscure niche game is not being remade or got a sequel announced but this Direct had much more quality content than it should, considering the Console's age.
No Persona 3 Reloaded on the switch announcement makes me very sad
Nothing too exciting for me, but I wasn't sure we'd even get a Direct before fall, so I'm not terribly disappointed.
I'm excited about the Super Mario RPG remake, Super Mario Wonder, Metal Gear Solid, and Pikmin 4.
RIP new ideas, new IPs. It's all a money printing machine now they realized they can use AI to upscale old games and sell them all over for full price. Never would have dreamed in 2023 the big games would all be.. From 2000. Plus sequels, who doesn't love endless sequels?! I know I certainly can't wait to see Fast and Furious 11!
I think it was a decent direct, but points to a Switch successor next year at some point.
Honestly my fave Direct I've seen. Petey in MK8, Daisy actually given a prominent role in a main series game, and a remake of an RPG I've been meaning to replay... those were my highlights, but I can admit the first two were only nice surprises compared to the actual game announcements.
While it didn't have anything that bowled me over specifically (outside of Warioware Move It and the Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon/Pikmin 1+2 remasters), this was an objectively great Direct filled with tons of variety. You were absolutely FEASTING if you were a Mario fan as well which, when they've been as patient as they've been these past few years, is lovely to see.
Overall, I would personally rate it about a 7.5 but realistically this one's about a 9, excellent stuff all around 👍
A whole lot better than the last two, yeah sure most of the announcements were remasters and ports but there were some pretty big new games too, great Direct all around.
One of the most exciting directs in awhile, personally. It was very Mario focused (which is what I liked) but still, a lot of great stuff on the way!
I went in not expecting much, and I was pleasantly surprised. Sure, there are several ports and remasters, but the games chosen to be remastered are excellent choices (MGS, Mario RPG, LM Dark Moon, etc.). And Mario Wonder looks outstanding. That was a "stop what you're doing and look at this" moment. Overall, I thought it was great, a solid 8/10 - an announcement of TOTK and/or Splatoon 3 DLC away from the 9 or 10 range.
8/10 saved by the new 2D Mario at the end otherwise 6/10.
Lots of dlc, ports and remasters as expected. Hoping for a fall reveal of Switch 2 for a March launch w/ a new 3D Mario and MK8 DX Directors Cut Complete Edition.
Seems a little late for Batman and Metal Gear but they are nice pickups for Switch owners.
I'm glad the Directs are still non-stop games, besides the live event and way late to the party amiibo. They need new translators though. Maybe just let them talk and subtitle it?
Too much Mario 7.8/10
Looks like Nintendo Switch still has gas left in the tank to carry over 2024.
What I'm looking forward for.
Third parties: Batman Trilogy, Metal Gear Trilogy, VAMPIRE SURVIVORS!! ( I can delete Vampire survivors from my phone! Penny Yo-Yo game.
Nintendo: Pikmin 1+2, Booster Wave 5, Mario RPG, Mario Wonder.
2025 for a Switch successor at the latest!
Great direct. Easily the best showcase out of the recent ones from different companies.
Both directs Nintendo put out this have been great for that matter.
It was a really good Direct. And my highlight is not in that list because it's exclusive to the JP version of the Direct. Mameda no Bakeru, the Ganbare Goemon spiritual successor from Good Feel looks amazing and I can't contain my excitement.
Mario RPG, Wonder, and WarioWare make it stellar. Bonus points if the Arkham ports are good.
I had like 7 answers. That's how good it was.
Really hoping that Untitled Peach Game keeps that name…
@NintendoByNature Totally! It was difficult to pick just three!
Wario Ware is my fourth pick.
That was good. Really, really good. While I personally wouldn't say it was the best one, it definitely delivered on what I wanted to see.
I was expecting some splatoon dlc though, still pretty nice. On the other hand FURRET CONFIRMED
There was some unnecessary filler that definitely felt like padding for time (Splatfest announcement, and only the slightest new details about Scarlet/Violet expansion did not feel like "Direct" material), but the new Mario (and related characters) games were showstoppers.
A solid B+ for the whole presentation.
The highlight new game announcement for me is the Dragon Quest Monsters game.
The announcement of Pikmin 1 and Pikmin 2 coming to the Switch was a nice surprise! As well as Pikmin 4 getting a demo before its release.
I liked all things Mario, Wonder and WarioWare being the highlights. I also got excited for Pikmin now that they showed it a bit more and I was reminded that it's coming out soon. Couple of neat 3rd party ports/remasters/remakes but nothing too special on that front.
I didn't enjoy this Direct but I'm happy for the people who did. I'm pretty satisfied with what I have already, and I'm ready to ride the Switch into it's twilight years working on my backlog.
@Sam_TSM Jeez that's a lot of negativity.
Was quite good. Already wanted Pikmin 4, now I'm gonna have to try not to but the remaster too.
Also, all this Mario goodness without a par looking sports game? Very nice!
Not much for me. The new Super Mario Bros game looks fun, and news about the MK8 DLC and Splatoon Splatfests is always welcome, but nothing else really interested me.
However, I am happy a lot of other people are looking forward to all the games mentioned!
I found the event very weak, as a nintendo fan I'm tired of the same things while many franchises are forgotten. They should remaster Donkey Kong or Star Fox instead of Mario RPG. A lot of indie games, low quality games.
Could have taken advantage and showing the next titles of the n64 of the expansion pack.
Fans are settling for very little.
Absolutely no exageration to say that for my tastes specifically, this is the best and most exciting Direct they've ever put out. An absolute tonne of games that are literally must buys for me: [edit] in order of how excited I am... but all are must buys without question.
Sonic Superstars
Super Mario Bros Wonder
Super Mario RPG
Princess Peach game
Pikmin 4
Penny's Big Breakaway
Pikmin 1 & 2
Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon
Detective Pikachu
Batman Arkham Trilogy (If physical)
Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection (If physical)
Pokemon DLC
Mario Kart DLC
I'm also very interested in lots of the other games they showed, but want to hear more. Manic Mechanics looked great, Hot Wheels Unleashed 2 does too, I like the look of Fae Farm, plenty of others that piqued my interest as well.
Honestly, in many ways I've been feeling like I fell somewhat out of love with modern gaming of late, and was only really looking forward to remakes and re-releases of retro games. After TOTK (which was not really for me, sorry, please don't hate me I know most people adore it) I truly assumed that the Switch was gearing down and Pikmin 4 would be the last big first party game from Nintendo and we'd have a quiet year or two whilst waiting for new hardware, like happened with the Wii U and at the end of the 3DS's life. Maybe getting Prime 4 if we were lucky, but it probably being kept for new hardware.
Obviously, I couldn't have been more wrong. Nintendo has MANY new games for the Switch coming up, and I really like the look of pretty much all of them!
Sonic Superstars had me feeling giddy already, and was a lovely surprise that had already started to give me hope for games I'll enjoy this year. Watching this Direct and them adding all the above as it progressed, I actually felt excitement again looking forward to the future 🥰
11/10 Direct, best ever, faith in "modern" gaming restored... even if its mostly through games in the style of old retro ones that I like. I'm glad theres still enough people who enjoy the same kind of games as me, so that the future can contain stuff like this alongside the other games that I don't find fun. Yay 😄
I think I may revisit Arkham and I've never played a Pikmin game. P4 might be where I jump on board. The Mario game is a must-buy for my family but I prefer the 3D Mario games.
I quite enjoyed this Direct, though I have to admit it was mostly because of the Mario stuff. But they're was some other good stuff in there. The MGS collection is fun to get, Penny's looks like fun, Pikmin 1 and 2 may get me into the series, the new Zelda amiibo look good, and... that's pretty much it for me regarding the non Mario stuff that I liked in this Direct. Unless you count the Splatfest announcement which, come on, that's not Direct material.
Overall it left me satisfied though! I'm a happy camper.
How dare you limit me to three options 😑
Seems I'm in the minority but I thought it was a pretty weak one, maybe even the weakest of the Switch era yet. Ports/remakes of games I already have and announcements that just weren't very exciting for me.
I'm not upset about it though as I'm hopeful that they're probably focusing on developing for the next system at this point. The Switch has plenty of games to play already so I can live with some quiet periods for now if it results in another 2017-like year when the next system launches.
One of the BEST directs I have seen in recent memory. Absolutely incredible! Blew my expectations out of the water.
Not a single thing I had been hoping for, yet there were some great reveals. I liked it. 👍
Star Ocean really piqued my interest. Love the visual style and missed the original back in the PS1 days. Not my cup of tea but the Pikmin 1 and 2 drop was nice for folks who are into it. Nice to see Peach getting a starring role.
The WORST Direct to date.
One of the lesser ones, but not too bad all around. The moment Just Dance got its own trailer was enough to temper expectations down a bit
But there was some good stuff nestled in there. Detective Pikachu making a comeback was a pleasant surprise, and the Super Mario RPG looks great. I’m also definitely keeping an eye on how the Arkham Trilogy performs.
But at this point I’m convinced Metroid Prime 4 just might be a next gen exclusive.
It was much better than I expected. I expected hype train for announced games - not nearly as many new games as they ended up showing us. Me and my daughters were pumped about the Peach game, Wonder is a no-brainer and Warioware is always a Day 1 purchase for me. This one looks like it could be top-tier Warioware - as long as they do a better job on cutscenes. Get It Together really disappointed on that.
One of my least favorite directs that I’ve seen but it wasn’t terrible by any means. Some truly unpredictable games were shown that’s for sure.
Think Silent Hope is the sleeper game here, it looked interesting.
I’m happier in hindsight than I was while viewing. I’d be thrilled if they gave Pikmin 1 & 2 a biiit more love than an HD upscaling, but ultimately just happy to have em. Also excited for Mario’s new 2D direction.
@BenAV weaker than the Farming Direct™?
@Sam_TSM yeah, maybe you just need to take a break from gaming for a bit. You don't seem to be deriving much enjoyment from it (which is totally fine!) so you may just wanna pick up a new hobby for a bit. Learn to juggle?
I'm usually underwhelmed by these Directs, but Super Mario Wonder and a chance to play RPG and MGS for the first time have me interested.
Only 3 options on the highlights? I have a lot more than 3 highlights here... I guess I can't complete the poll.
These are my highlights (day one purchases):
Pokémon Scarlet & Violet - The Hidden Treasure Of Area Zero (Switch eShop)
Splatoon 3 (Switch)
Detective Pikachu Returns (Switch)
Super Mario RPG (Switch)
Untitled Peach Game
Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon (3DS)
Fae Farm (Switch eShop)
Pikmin 4 (Switch)
Penny's Big Breakaway (Switch)
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Course Pass Wave 5 (Switch eShop)
Star Ocean: The Second Story R
Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom amiibo
Super Mario Bros. Wonder (Switch)
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Pretty solid Direct. There's something for everyone here. The highlights for me are the Mario games. I'm not the biggest Mario fan but I am interested in trying out the games announced here.
The SV DLC update wasn't expected and but it did sparked some interest again to try them out and get back to SV. Detective Pikachu returns was nice but the graphics look rough and outdated (and this is coming from someone who don't mind the graphics on the recent Pokémon entries). Will give it a try nonetheless.
Kinda disappointed with the lack anything NSO related. With the Pokémon games being in this Direct. For a moment, I had a slight hope for the Pokémon GBA or Gameboy titles being announced but that's still a pipe dream.
It was fine. I never enjoyed 2D Mario much but there were other solid things to get excited about.
Obviously Metal Gear is the top one I can't wait to play MGS1 again.
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It was very good for me, I plan to buy pikmin 1 & 2, pikmin 4 (after I'm finished with 1 & 2), detective pikachu 2, super mario rpg remake, that peach game, and luigi mansion 2 remaster. And of course, super mario wonder will be mine day one
Super mario rpg or mario wonder alone is worth "It was very good" for me
A typical tail end of a (Nintendo) console's life release schedule. It kinda reminds me of the release schedule of the 3DS after Switch had been launched.
3DS had a Luigi's Mansion game remake/remaster, it had a new Detective Pikachu game, it had a new Warioware game (and there's probably more similarities if you dig into it).
But what really matters is that there were no 3D Mario game revealed (or other real big hitters for that matter) and that leads to me beginning to like REALLY believe that the Switch successor will be revealed in a September direct (along with a 3D Mario game to cash in on the movie's success - and of course help sell some new hardware).
Then they will launch the successor by november (along with a healthy launch window line up). Super Mario RPG remake is a typical tail end release and 2D Mario (well it had to happen rather sooner than later plus being a 2D game it's not the most taxing production tbh) IS not 3D Mario.
Yeah, I firmly believe that new hardware will be coming this holiday as there's nothing really big on the horizon for Switch the next 6 month.
I thought it was sh*te.
Definitely get the feeling this is the final year of the Switch now.
Glad I've still got many hours to go in TOTK and I'm already going to get Pikmin 4 and have the MK booster pack.
2D Mario is really just a slight update from New Super Mario Bros and looked like one of those run games on some of the levels. Will see when they show more but will be another 6 hour game.
Pretty much everything was a filler just to get them to the next system that will have a stellar first year like the Switch. Unless they blow it and announce a new gimmick instead of a Switch 2.
it was amazing,Cant wait to buy a proper warioware since i passed on the previous one,didn't like it at all.Alwo,wow mario RPG remake and 2D Mario that isn't in the new series.
About time they made a Detective Pikachu sequel.
Mario RPG excites me the most especially with Yoko's new take on one of her best works. Mostly I'm just glad these still exist and that Nintendo still crafts them masterfully. Nothing comes close to the energy and joy the Directs bring to the gaming world which is increasingly in need of positive influence - and reminders that games are actually y'know, fun. I don't buy much new releases anymore but I love watching the Directs.
@johnvboy Exactly this, a great direct, however, I think Nintendo has literally shown their remaining hand with everything they have left for the Switch. The Switch will certainly go out with a bang though, 2 Mario's for the Christmas 23 season with the Peach title and Luigi's Mansion closing down the Switch generation in 2024.
We still have a great amount to look forward to before the Switch successor launches between June and October 2024 in my view..
Detective Pichachu/Pikmin 1 & 2 HD plus that Wario title are great additions for the Switch in it's twilight years. Nintendo's being very generous towards the end of the Switches life it must be said.
Although, I do now think that Metroid 4 and the rumoured Twilight Princess/Wind Waker HD Collection will now be saved for Switch 2 or whatever they decide to call it at thus point.. 🤔
Super Mario RPG remake made my day.
It was good, New Mario new new I didn't see coming and it does actually look a touch more interesting than the earlier new mario bros games, then as usual Squeenix got things covered between the Mario RPG remake, the Star Ocean 2 remake and Dragon Quest Monsters, all games I'm heavily considering.
Could've been better sure but certainly could've been worse.
I’m a big Mario fan so this was the best direct in a good while for me. It’s was relentless with the announcements! 9.5/10, would watch again.
Excited for remasters of Mario RPG, Luigi’s Mansion, and Pikmin. New Mario is always something I look forward to so I’m happy with the direct!
Mario & Co. killed it this time.
Amazing, just as good if not even better than the February one, in fact it's quite difficult for me to choose only 3 highlights so I'll cheat and say everything Mario (with Wonder being the biggest one and so my actual vote because I thought the Peach game was the 2D Mario, but also because of how wacky it is and all the playable characters), Pikmin 1+2 (didn't think we'd get them now and even less shadow dropped) and WarioWare (seriously, who expected a new one since we already got Get it Together on Switch?)!
Very good. The pigeon game was a low point for my tastes, but everything else was fine.
Pigeon game is goofy and I love it… but where’s my side order trailer??
I admittedly was disappointed not to see the Persona 3 Reload featured here, but all in all very satisfied with this Direct!
Plenty of Mario and honestly I love it. Basically every Mario announcement got me pretty excited lol
In terms of the year overall so far for Nintendo I would say it's looking great. We got a new Fire Emblem, Zelda, Pikmin and Mario game all in one year. Not to mention a Metroid Prime remaster as well.
A bit early to say this but If this is the last big year for the Switch then I'd say they finished it with a bang.
Considering that post-Zelda Switch was a bit of an unknown quantity, I’m chuffed to see Nintendo has plenty of plans yet.
Well they had me at Mario RPG
Other than that - lots of ports, which feels like we’re approaching the end of the Switch era. Rather good Direct overall!
I’m only disappointed because the internet got my hopes up about a Chrono Trigger remake that obviously wasn’t announced. I guess it was ok otherwise.
I rated it "A," for "amaaaazing!"
@Kirbo100 Yep. I actually thought that one was alright despite all the random farming sims.
Best 3. Pokemon DLC. Zelda Amiibo. Super Mario Bros Wonder. Why Zelda Amiibo? I am a Zelda fan.
@h15c0r3r It's looking to be very strong for fall releases. I'm looking forward to all of the 3 big exclusives: Starfield, Mario and Spider-man 2 while will also be getting Mortal Kombat 1 day one (for xbox or PS5,m though) and maybe AC Mirage. Add that to Tears of the Kingdom, Resident Evil 4 Remake, Metroid Prime Remaster, Jedi Survivor, Dead Space remake, Diablo IV, Final Fantasy 16 and it is looking to be an extremely strong year for gaming all around.
@coolioam EXACTLY what I was thinking!! How anyone can complain is beyond me. This direct was freaking AWESOME!! TONS of shadow drops.. so much so that they should start calling these Nintendo Shadow Drop Direct. What other company has the balls to not reveal this many bangers so late?!?! I love directs and I love how the games are being revealed!! The only thing I was a little bummed about was no MP4 which isn't a surprise.
Let's to go!!
This was an okay Direct. Most of the Mario news (specifically SM RPG remake, new Peach game, LM DM port and SMB Wonder) + Detective Pikachu Returns were the only highlights for me. The rest of new games or stuff we didn't know about before either looked alright or were just 🥱 imo.
Honestly this was a sales direct. And what I mean by that is Nintendo is cranking up the IPs that make money like pokemon and Mario...(so much Mario). There was a lot of variety, imo, but folks looking for a specific franchise or something random will be disappointed (as they usually are). However those people aren't where the sales are for the general population anyway, Telling the world there is lots of Mario on the way pretty much prints money. This is how you maintain momentum. Especially if you add in the Japan only games from that Direct. Good on Nintendo.
I'm already readjusting my budget. Will have to spread some of this out next year or not buy any ps5/series x games this year. hmmm. Honestly if they keep this up I feel the switch can go without a successor until 2025-26.
It was a great Direct. I would say only the fact that the majority of third party titles were announced earlier on in the summerfest stopped it from being incredible. That said, here's what I thought...
Mario RPG looks gorgeous. The original and still the best Mario rpg (in my book.)
Mario Wonder looks like a return to form for 2D Mario (and I bet we still don't know 80% of the gameplay!) Anyone thinking it isn't going to move Switches this holiday are ignorant.
How good does Star Ocean 2 look!?!
Sonic Superstars looks fab (Wonder kinda stole it's glory lol.)
Metal Gear finally on a Nintendo console (you know what I mean.)
Never played the Batman games but if they are good ports and handled correctly (I mean, it's WB...) then I'm in!
The Saturday morning catoon shooter looked very stylish and wowed me. (Mythforce - had to double check name!)
I see Warioware, I buy Warioware.
Already sold on Pikmin 4.
Thank God, I haven't played Dragon's Quest and been sucked in lol - that looked great. (...one day...)
I would have to wait for a review for Gloomhaven. Looked atmospheric enough but a genre I'm not great at telling if it's good or not lol.
Now, Penny's Big Breakaway I reckon could catch folk off guard. The art isn't quite as on point as Mario or Sonic's new games (although the characters do pop), but the gameplay looks up there. Reckon it's going to be good.
Pokemon fans I'm sure are ecstatic.
Mario Kart just keeps going, bless it.
As for the rest. kinda inoffensive.
All in all. I'll give it a B++. Would have easily been an A++ if things like Sonic Superstars and Metal Gear Solid etc were unknowns but man, doesn't make it any less of a strong line up. So much for Nintendo closing shop until Switch 2 hahaha.
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10/10. Too many games. Need to finish Zelda
Man that mario Wonder and mario rpg, i feel like a kid again.
Also that peach game looked refreshing
It felt like they had nothing to show so they just shoved whatever.
Untitled Peach Game?
It's a calm afternoon in mushroom kingdom and you are a horrible princess
No Half Life Collection, 0/10.
I thought it was a good direct all things considered. At least 3-4 games I look forward to. It is clear the Switch is now on life support and getting the cheaper, end of lifetime games, but it is to be expected.
Personally I wasn’t very impressed. Too much filler, too much DLC and a lot of very similar games. And Mario Wonder looked very disappointing, insofar as it isn’t moving Mario 2D forward enough. 3D Mario’s are very different but 2D just look stale now.
I’m very glad for Mario RPG though, Pikmin 4 looks great and Metal Gear is very welcome. My daughter may love Peaches, so that’s good.
It strikes me that Nintendo will release SUPER MARIO WONDER and WARIO WARE MOVE IT! and SUPER MARIO RPG in a month. Every two Fridays, from mid-October to mid-November, one of them. Different genres and all that, I guess, but... uh?
Happy to see a new Warioware game, but what was up with Wario's voice?!?
I have seen better direct's from them but it was still good
The best thing for me is the dragon quest monsters release date
And the mario rpg
Detective pikachu also looks fun
but for me personally nintendo finished 2nd in the e3 battle which hasn't happened for years
the big winner for me this year is xbox
the games I listed all looked nice
but didn't make it compare to the xbox showcase with starfield and the 2 persona games
and yes i know persona 5 tactica is also coming to the switch
but they were announced at the xbox showcase so that counts as points for them
A decent direct, the highlights for me were definitely Super Mario RPG, Super Mario Wonder, and Metal Gear Solid Collection. Definitely a loooot of ports though... only a matter of time until a new console is announced at this point I think.
It's now 6(!) years since Metroid Prime 4 was announced. Guessing it's either cancelled or delayed to become a launch title for the Switch's successor at this stage?
6/10
Wasn't as exciting as for me as I was hoping for but that's okay. I imagine if I was more of a Mario and Pikmin fan, I would have more thought more highly of it.
Star Ocean was the highlight for me but I'm also interested in Batman Trilogy, Metal Gear Solid Collection, DQ Monsters (can we please get a DQIV port too though) and SMB Wonder. Just not hugely excited for anything unlike past Directs.
@granhalcon All of those should have legs though, so it is doubtful they will fully cannibalize each other.
Still no remasters of Twilight Princess and/or Wind Waker.
@ComfyAko The point in showing the Peach game and the Luigi's Mandion game back to back after the Mario RPG remake was to show people (mostly investors, but also potential new customers wondering whether to finally get on board or if its better to wait for new hardware) that there are major first party games from the Mario series coming out in 2024, to try and stop all the rumblings of people feeling like Switch is essentially in its final days and this will be its last major Holiday season.
Personally I still think there will likely be new hardware in 2024 but those announcements alone (& the fact Metroid Prime 4 still doesn't have a release date but hasn't been cancelled) mean that if there is new hardware, it pretty much guaranteed to be backwards compatible so there is a crossover period.
@Arkham24601 Yes I'm assuming they are sitting on those to release in 2024 to pad out the "major" releases, to extend the life of the console in line with my response above. An easy way to bide time whilst developing more games for whatever the new hardware eventually is.
We may not have had E3, but this felt like a true "E3" direct. Though no Metroid prime news was a slight bummer. Also Nintendo refusing to port wind waker and twilight princess is actually hilarious.
Man, only 3% for my #1 highlight, Warioware!
It was kinda boring and almost nothing interesting. 2/10 for Batman Trilogy and for Vampire Survivor (that you easily can play on any smartphone right now).
@coolioam you are definitely right. nuff said
@SteamEngenius I'm sorry, do you seriously think that this Super Mario RPG remake was upscaled using AI?
It was vary enjoyable, I mean we got three mark games, pikmin ports! And more, those two alone made this direct amazing!
8/10
For me, this was yet another reminder that I really don't need a Switch. I've never liked 2D Mario games, but I'd be all about that if it were 3D. The whole time, I was thinking, "man, I wish this were 3D." I played and loved Pikmin 3, but I don't feel motivated to play 4 at all. Looks like the same, I guess, and I can't imagine dropping $60 for it. Very few of the 3rd party games excite me, with three exceptions. Penny's Big Breakaway is the obvious game of the Direct for me. 3D platformers are possibly my favorite genre. The next is Star Ocean. I never got around to playing them, and this remake looks awesome. The last is Metal Gear. I love all three, but Snake Eater is possibly my favorite game ever. Definitely was not expecting that. All three of these games are coming to other consoles, and Switch is easily the worst option to me.
This Direct was incredible… if you are a Mario fan. That is one of the reason you should always buy at least one extra console next to your Nintendo system. As much as I like Nintendo, but they rely way too heavily on franchises with high priority, such as Mario. I get why, it is a huge money making machine, but after a while you are getting tired of seeing the same characters, atmosphere, and sound effects again and again. I think, I had my dose of Mario for this decade. If I ever buy another console, it will maybe be the next PS or XBOX, but... also there it depends on how good the third party support is.
@Wheatly I was NOT expecting a 2D Mario to be there flagship game this holiday.
Mario RPG and Wonder obviously stole the show. I don't think anything else even vaguely interested me, but that's okay.
I've never played Pikmin, so I'm glad there's going to be a demo.
Very little for me personally, but being as objective as I can, this would be a 6/10, at best. Super Mario Bros. Wonder really swooped in to salvage it at the end.
Amazing Direct.
My games here:
Mario RPG and new Mario 2d seems good. But i won´t pay $60 for them. I only would buy it for ~ $29...i don´t think these games are worth that much. I'm not willing to pay more than that for them. Many of these Nintendo adventure games last a few hours for me. I prefer pay for Dead Cells, Rogue Legacy 2...
I´ll buy:
Mario RPG saved it for me, the rest didn't really interest me. Will probably get Wonder but I'm not sold on the art style and the wacky "ooOoOooh now the pipes are wiggly" gameplay
@RareFan I mean. The entire movie industry is just talking about Spiderman and Mario rn...it would be crazy not to capture that momentum in their main deal.
At least they are making an entirely new Mario game. And it looks quite different to me.
@Rykdrew How 'bout $50, with the voucher program?
personally, was...okay. kart & rabbids dlc waiting for whenever happened, splatfest sure(go minty). peach, silent hope, hot wheels, Mariophant all seem intersting. everything else happy for their fans.
Pretty bad. I'm disappointed. 2,5/10. There were no fighting games.
@Bret I only buy Digital. In my country the $60 game physical copy is $70....$75...
@Vyacheslav333 I´m a fighting gamer too. But Nintendo Switch is not the best option to play fighting games. I recommend you play them on Steam. Online is free and there are A LOT OF PEOPLE playing ALL fighting games! Much more options than any console!
@Cashews
Yes, I get it, it makes from a business standpoint much sense, why Nintendo pushes Mario so much now. I get it. The same reason why GameFreaks makes nothing but Pokémon games, I get it, they print a lot of money for their companies, but I wish, I could have something else, at least one thing that is not related to the Mario Universe.
@shgamer I've been saying for months and months that Switch 2 or whatever would launch this holiday. (And before that, I thought it would launch with Zelda.) Now I'm confident it will not launch this year. A 2D Mario flagship title was the last thing I expected, but I still think it's all they've got for this year. 2D Mario is definitely not my thing at all. But maybe then Metroid Prime 4 and Odyssey 2 will launch with their next console.
@TheExile285 Have you had a chance to play any of the MGS games?
@Bret How much would/will you pay for the new Warioware?
@RareFan I'd agree but they have been spreading the love around for so long now a little return to form is cool with me. Fire Emblem, Animal Crossing, Splatoon, Pikmin, 2 Wariowares, Zelda. I mean we have seen new, really good games of all these in the past 3 years. They aren't exactly being stagnant.
I'm not surprised or sad they are going to end the Switch (if) on a high Mario note. It's fitting.
Lol at that dumb article where Zelda was the switch's swan song.
@Gryffin Finished 3 and thought it was great. Played a bit of 1 and 2 but I need give them another try.
Really psyched to play gloomhaven on switch. Heard how well it translates from the tabletop game.
@Rykdrew If I had a gaming PC – no problem! But, I have only Nintendo Switch as the main gaming platform.
Edit: Oh, and the best console for fighting games is either PS2 and/or first gen PS3 with PS2 backwards compatibility.
It was very good. Not one of the all-time greats, but much better than I expected. E3 worthy. Dragon Quest Monsters was my highlight, Mythforce looks great and I'm one of those people who quite wanted a way to play those Batman games (I skipped the release on Wii U because it was only one of them).
I'm not all that excited about Super Mario Wonder, but it did look good, as did the Super Mario RPG remake, and it's good Nintendo is now quite regularly offering HD versions of GameCube games such as Pikmin 1 and 2. If I'm nitpicking I would have been more excited with Wind Waker or Twilight Princess, but that really is a nitpick.
@TheExile285 Word. I recommend them. And then Guns of the Patriots. Phantom Pain is super fun but literally does not have a story, which is crazy. I'm debating whether or not to play this Snake Eater remaster or to wait for the full remake. It's one of the very very few games I've played more than once, and I'll play it again, but I might as well play he fancy new version.
I'm really excited for a remake for Super Mario RPG. It was one of my favourite games growing up. I can't wait to share that game with my nieces and nephews who are finally old enough to have their own Switch systems! Really hope the remake gets a collector's physical edition to preorder! And of course new 2D Super Mario Bros! And Fae Farm just looks amazing, it's everything I was hoping Sun Haven would be (and it's actually got a release date unlike Sun Haven which is just sitting in limbo with no updates from the developer at all but they still advertise on social media it's coming to Switch).
It was a solid direct - shame the 2 biggest announcements (Super Mario RPG and Wonder) were leaked before hand, but they look really good. Overall a nice mix of new games and remasters to tide fans over until Nintendo ramps things up for the Switch 2, which I believe will release Holiday 2024.
It was pretty good.
I skipped out on all the New Super Mario Bros games because they looked incredibly sterile, but Wonder has got me back on board.
I also haven't really played Mario RPG, so I'm both stoked and not stoked for the remake. It looks good and there's a lot of effort put into it, but I have to admit the of-its-era SNES graphics look more unique from a 2023 perspective, and I have a bone to pick with the homogenization of videogame aesthetics in general. I like new graphics just fine, but I also like the specific texture and color of games past. It's not about nostalgia for me, but simply retaining that variety of looks and vibes. But I understand the prerendered 90s look isn't commercially viable nowadays, of course. And Nintendo isn't Nightdive. They play to a different market.
Everything else was a notch below that, but still great. Metal Gear Solid, I have on PS3, but I don't like dusting off that console so I'll probably double-dip on Switch.
It was pretty good. Happy Batman is FINALLY coming to the Switch, so I'll be buying this games... again. Metal Gear Solid Master Collection, Super Mario RPG, Super Mario Bros Wonder, Star Ocean and a few other titles caught my interest. It doesn't look like Nintendo broke much of a sweat with this one, yet it was still better than everyone else's showcases. The Direct manages to let the games present themselves, whereas the rest of them sound like shareholder calls with hollow verbiage.
I feel like Persona 3 Reloaded is going to be announced for the Switch in September at their big live direct. Which leads me to believe, there's new hardware on the horizon.
Excellent direct! My already expansive Switch library will be growing with at least 10 of these titles presented today. Very excited!
It was okay, but too many remakes and ports. Super Mario RPG is awesome, but I have no interest in a fresh coat of paint for a game I've already played. I want new games.
Pikmin 4, Peach's game, and Penny's Big Breakaway were the highlights for me. I hope we see more on Peach soon.
@Gryffin This answer may be boring, but I'll simply pay whatever the cost is, no complaints. Warioware is my favorite video game series.
@Rykdrew Well good news, vouchers are digital only anyway.
i give it a 7/10 no metroid news or no tp wind waker port ...
@UltimateOtaku91 Different strokes for different folks and all that, but did you really think that was better than the Xbox games showcase?
I love Nintendo as much as the next guy but crikey.
Like all Nintendo Direct, they really showed what they had to show at the moment, of course, there are still doubts with games that still do not show signs of progress, but time to time, at some point more information will be shown; but the point is, that as always it was a Good/Great Direct!
And for me, from what has been shown, Super Mario Wonder and Peach's new game my interests, new info on Pokémon and Mario Kart and some interesting new announcements like Mario RPG, Wario Ware, Detective Pikachu and more.
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'However, it should be a bad Direct, there was no F-zero, or a racing game like NFS, and even if they put in Hot wheels and Mario kart, those don't count, so yeah, it was a boring Direct !!
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/sarcasm
Sorry, I only showed myself how in all the Direct there, players disappointed because they did not receive any games of their interest in the presentation and therefore, they criticize that it was a bad Direct... oh dear...
Definitely a ton of great games announced.
Here’s hoping my backlog will go down a bit.
@Bret that's great! It does look super good and I'd love to play it.
The Switch is becoming the all-in-one console, with gaming hits from Pong to modern day. Some great games, some that I have zero interest in, but good stuff all around.
This was my favorite Nintendo Direct of all time and I have watched every single one of them since they first came out under Iwata. My 2 favorite Series of all time are Pikmin and Mario and this direct felt like it was tailor made for me personally. 100/100 for me.
I'm super-excited for Pikmin 1+2. I've been itching to replay them (especially 2) and didn't want to have to drag out and setup my Wii to do it. That'll tide me over until 4 comes next month. Also very excited about all the Marios.
I think it was good. I can see why it would make a lot of people happy, I liked the JRPG's the best. Cautiously optimistic for Palia.
I'm a big platformer fan, SNES fan, and Mario fan... so yeah, this Direct was for me.
Loved the direct .. but I hoped for a DLC for Mario Odyssey at least . Or for Skywalkers Saga .
The Wonder Mario is intriguing . For Penny , I have a few doubts .
If there’s another console in the works though , makes total sense .
I thought it was really great! Super Mario RPG, Super Mario Bros. Wonder, and Star Ocean Second Story were my standouts.
One of the best directs that have been showcased. The best summer 23 event. Tons of games, variety, remakes, and fun times ahead...expect all the money I will be spending.
That new 3D plaformer from the Sonic Mania team looks intriguing but other than that this direct was pretty much a snoozefest.
It's hard for me to get too excited about a new 2D Mario these days, especially when its been way too long since we've got a proper 3D one. The idea of a Princess Peach game sounds interesting but unfortunaly they didn't really give us much to go on. I don't know how I'm supposed to be excited for something that I didn't really see. And yeah I mean other than that there wasn't really much that spoke to me. It's starting to feel like the Switch is finally winding down
It was pretty good for a direct in the twilight years of a system
If you like Mario, Luigi, Pikmin, Metal Gear Solid, Batman, or Mario Kart, then this was a very good Direct. That's a lot of fanbases covered.
Sure, it's easy to think about all the things they didn't show (Starfox, F-Zero, Metroid, Zelda HD remakes, etc.) but taking it for what it is, this Direct was incredible.
I am most excited for Pikmin 1+2, Pikmin 4, Mario Wonder, Sonic Superstars, Mario Kart DLC, and Snake Eater.
@luke88 I did watch it and rated it a B over on purexbox, but I love Japanese games and JRPG's so this had more that appealed to me.
It was pretty good. Wish we'd got something Star Fox, Donkey Kong 3D, Metroid Prime 2 and my main forever wish: Rogue Squadron HD Trilogy. Please may that happen one day.
The only rumour I heard was the possibility of a new 2D Mario game so I was pleasantly surprised.
Looking at some of these comments I honestly don't know what people expected. Some amazing announcements and people still want more. Every Direct we get this.
Between this and the Xbox presentation I'm a very happy bunny.
It was pretty good. We got Mario RPG Remake, Pikmin 1 & 2, Mario: Acid Trip Edition (Wonder), new Peach game, new Detective Pikachu, enhanced port of Luigi's Mansion 2, and the MGS Collection on Switch. Considering the Switch is near the end of its life, it was a respectable direct.
And Pikmin 4 looks absolutely brilliant, as does SMB Wonder. ❤
I know a bunch of people hate Re-releases and remasters, but eh. I like having all of these games in the same place, on the same system.
@AllieKitsune Nuts to them.
Me too. Plus, many people have not played these games, or haven't played them in a decade or more, especially old AF games like Mario RPG. Personally I love remakes/remasters. Why not make an already fantastic game even better, PLUS more accessible on modern platforms? 🙂
Mario RPG was a pleasant surprise until I saw that it's selling for full retail on the eShop.
The best Direct in years for me. What's tricky about judging Directs is that it all inevitably depends on your tastes. The real downside for me is no Splatoon 3: Side Order news and it's lame that they chose to announce a Splatfest in a Direct again instead. Otherwise, this is a fantastic Direct that truly feels like Nintendo's own little online E3.
Also, people can finally shut up about a Switch successor until next year. Switch still has a solid year or so left. Super Switch won't be coming until Holiday 2024 at the earliest.
Lots of stuff I wasn’t expecting - and considering how old the switch is now they’re probably just gearing up for the next console so holding back on a couple of things. Or who knows? Maybe it’ll be another couple of years.
I thought it was good, really looking forward to a lot of those games.
@EVIL-C I've been wanting Star Ocean 2 to end up on the Switch in some form or fashion forever.
So I'm pretty happy about that one, even with the semi-lengthy wait.
Mario Wonder looks wonderful. Happy to see Mario RPG come and also excited about the Peach game even though we know literally nothing XD Most of the rest of it didn't excite me too much since a lot of it we already knew about, but a couple fun games like the new Dragon Quest spinoff and silent hope looks interesting. The Wario game looks fun, but I am kind of over motion-control games so I'll leave that one to energetic children.
When they first showed the Peach game I was like 'oh no, they must be giving us this tiny teaser because they don't have another mario game this year' 😆 I was happily surprised.
Any direct with that much Mario is automatically a good direct.
I’m having an extremely difficult time picking only 3 answers on that second poll.
I can’t vote for only 3 so I’m not voting at all! You can’t make me! 😛
@0ohHeWrong why would it not go for full retail?
One of the best overall directs in YEARS
I was only interested in Pikmin, Mario RPG, Mario Wonder, and Luigi's Mansion 2 remake.
Then again, that's four titles (six if you count the Pikmin 1-2 releases), so not bad considering how many Directs go.
@AllieKitsune Dang, that remake released 8 years ago in Japan. Only now is it releasing worldwide. I felt that same happiness when Fatal Frame 4 was confirmed for worldwide release after waiting 10+ years.
I've never played Star Ocean but I'd probably like the sci-fi element. Enjoy.
Finally got a new, non- port non- remaster Mario game so I'm all set. That's all I've been wanting for five billion years now it feels like. I never counted Mario Maker or the Wii U ports, so for me it's been a long, long wait, but all (mostly) worth it with how fresh and wonderful it looked.
Also, Mario RPG remake. Overall, I just wanted some Mario and I finally, finally got it.
@ChromaticDracula Well, in my opinion Mr. Dracula, not to diminish the work it takes to remaster a game, but it's a Super Nintendo game. Metroid Prime Remastered wasn't even priced at full retail when released. Full retail for Super Mario RPG is a blatant cash grab if you ask me.
Wario was the only game that "interested" me
@Tps1234 no, you're wrong.
Maybe it was too Mario-centered actually. The only game I expected there was the rumored 2D Mario, but instead...
It's not that the games won't be good, I bet they will. But this reminds me of both second half of the Wii era, and the early Wii U years, were people commonly discussed Nintendo was 'saturating' the franchise and commonly asked for new franchises, to finally have one announced at E3 2014.
For example, looking at the new Princess Peach game, I'm worried if that new gameplay idea was originally suited for a new IP, but then they decided to make it the second Peach spin-off (which is definitely a good idea for the franchise). The other two games were a remake and a remaster so it's no trouble for that. A new WarioWare? Fun but still not a super-big contender. Super Mario Bros. Wonder is looking exciting and innovative, that's all.
Maybe this makes commercial sense thanks to the success of the Mario movie, but haven't we already got so many Mario spin-offs the last few years? I know they will be popular, and very fun indeed. But the only Mario game I'm truly hyped for is the one that hasn't been announced, you know the kind of odyssey I'm talking about.
The rest of the presentation was very good, but could have been better at the end. The Pokémon news were exactly the ones I expected, Splatoon 3 was fine but lacked the DLC talk, the third-party section was surprisingly amazing. And Pikmin 4 is shaping up to become a new pinacle for the franchise.
But the only GameCube remasters announced were Pikmin 1+2. I'm still waiting for those Metroid and Zelda collections I know are coming, and in fact, for Nintendo to finally unveil their GameCube return plans and NSO announcements. Maybe for September?
But the biggest letdown was maybe the lack of Tears of the Kingdom DLC news, maybe because I expected that to be the final announcement alongside certain remasters. On the bright side, maybe Nintendo knows players are still busy with the game so they're holding back that announcement until later. I know Nintendo's developers enough to say they've been having a lot of fun with this game.
Overall, it was surprisingly good enough to come as one of the best Summer Game Fest game presentations this year, very good but still not enough to top the Xbox showcase (thinking about it, it would've been very difficult to top unless they finally unveiled the Switch successor).
It was solid. It's clear that Nintendo is saving a new 3D Mario outing as well as MP4 for the next system. We are winding down. That being said, MYTHFORCE has been on my Switch hope-list since I saw it released on PC earlier this year and ARKHAM TRILOGY was the final "Switch-Port" I had really been waiting for. (Gave up hope on any RED DEAD ports years ago...)
@Vyacheslav333 On Nintendo Switch I can recommend a great fighting game from Aksys!
Chaos Code!
Its cheap and its a GREAT game!
On Switch I play:
If you wanna play some day!
@Bret What is this "voucher"? I´ve never seen it and i really don´t know what "voucher" is!
C tier Direct at best very underwhelming Direct
Fantastic direct, I think new hardware is on the horizon for next year. I noticed in the Peach game announcement, they didn't say it was coming to Switch like they do with basically every other announcement, I wouldn't be surprised if it's a cross-gen release. That said I'm pretty stoked about a lot of games, but particularly the Pikmin 1 + 2 port released today. I was just thinking a few days ago how I wish Pikmin 2 on Gamecube wasn't so expensive, now I have a better option!
It was okay. Not going to buy anything that was shown though. My Switch is a Splatoon machine until they stop updating Splatoon 3. Then I'll feed it to one of those machines that shreds electronics.
It was awesome. A lot to look forward to: Super Mario Bros. Wonder, Super Mario RPG remake, Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon I appreciate, because my 3DS died years ago, some Peach game, which may turn out to my liking, MK8Dx Wave 5, and Pikmin 4.
@SteamEngenius I didn't realize Tears of the Kingdom and Super Mario Wonder were from 2000!!
Well I guess that’s why they skipped E3, huh.
Not terrible, just… meh. My socks remained firmly in situ, as underwhelmed as I was. May be coloured by the fact I was getting ready to go to work. But…
Remakes, very late ports, MARIO & CO, POKÉMON AND PIKMIN UP THE HECKIN WAZOO, SNAAAAAAAAAKE!, Bats, no Metroid Prime Anything, STILL NO FREAKING SILKSONG… seriously feels like we’ll be on the Switch 3 before that drops. MythForce kind of intrigues, but the player characters could be a bit more varied (into my 9th watch of The Legend of Vox Machina). Life needs things to live.
Beyond that, Mario RPG and Wave 5 of MK8’s DLC… wake me up for the next one so I can rage about there being no Silksong or Prime in that one either.
what really saved this direct was not including the 1 2 Switch sequel on the presentation. Nintendo knows that it would hurt them
@SteamEngenius Is Everybody One, Two, Switch! from 2000? I think not.
I'm 90% sure Nintendo is saving their brand new IP ideas for Switch's successor to be launch titles. We're in the maturation phase of the console, where key franchises already represented on the console get sequels or new entries, and old IP from generations ago get ported or remastered or remade. In any case, the sudden announcement of a 12S sequel solidifies that we have a solid 3 new Nintendo IP created specifically for Switch: 1-2-Switch, ARMS, and Nintendo Labo. That's not that different from past generations in terms of significant new IP (at least, not since in the GameCube), but they've been investing in their old IP a lot at the same time.
Very good for Super Mario RPG alone. Super Mario Wonder and DQM were nice touches, too.
Sadly i think they are putting me off of pikmin the more of it they show. I have never gotten very deep into a pikmin game even though I’ve bought 1, 3 and 3 deluxe and there is so much added here i feel like it will definitely be overwhelming to me. I bet it we’ll be great for fans of the series
I was really surprised by the announcement of games for “next year” like i don’t know how much longer the Switch can go
Nintendo clearly did well and know their audience judging by the high scores most people gave this direct.
The only half decent game for me was the Mario one and even then, I'm not paying £50 for another 2D platformer.
I wanted
Silksong
Rhythm Heaven Megamix
Diddy Kong Racing
Snowboard Kids
F zero gamecube
Wave Race Gamecube
Zelda Windwaker
Mario Galaxy 2
Mario Odyssey 2
3d Donkey Kong game
2d Wario platformer / rogue lite
Well, for my tastes, that direct was excellent. The one in February didn’t really have much that appealed to my, admittedly limited, range of tastes, but this one had a TON of stuff that is right up my alley!
I like my Mario either 2D or RPG so it definitely gave me everything I wanted on the Mario front. I am so so desperate for Donkey Kong to get some love though.
I'm most excited for a new 2D Mario, but I'm weirdly happy (for nostalgic reasons) for the Metal Gear collection. The first game I ever bought for the NES was the original Metal Gear after seeing it advertised in a G.I. Joe comic, thus beginning my long love of gaming. I know it's supposed to be inferior to the MSX2 version, but I'm really itching to return to that game after not playing it in years. TBH, I don't really care much for the franchise anymore, but those old 8 bit games are classics to me.
At this point you would expect Nintendo to slowdown...but they keep on trucking! Maybe a bit to much Mario, but it was great stuff. Penny's breakaway also looks great. And then there's Sonic, Prince of Persia, etc. I am set for this year, that's for sure!
A pity though about Warioware, should be Warioland!
A whole lotta Mario and a Detective Pikachu game, so I’m very satisfied
I am very happy with this Nintendo Direct. It delivered in every way I could fathom and I couldn't be happier.
That was the slowest Direct start for me, then suddenly, boom, Super Mario RPG Remaster. Right then, def wasn’t on my bingo card, neither was 4+ Mario related/Adjacent games. Lordy!
Also, 3 wasn’t enough for my highlights. I’m def picking up Batman cause that’s an amazing trilogy to have, the Metal Gear Collection also great, and of course Super Mario RPG. What I couldn’t select, but will also def be getting is Vampire Survivors. Amazing addictive game, and it’ll only be $5-7. Seriously, every one get that! I’ve played the heck out of it on Xbox and my phone.
Def getting New Super Mario Wonder, as that looks like a nice psychedelic romp! Gloomhaven, Mythforce, Silent Hope, and Fae Farm are goin on the watch list, and Pikmin 1&2, and Star Ocean are going on the list to get when I’ve got extra money.
If you have Luigi’s Mansion: Dark Moon in your direct, you get a perfect score. If you announce it in the same breath as Super Mario RPG and an original Peach game, you get a double-perfect score. I don’t make the rules, I just adhere to them with a giddy grin on my face!
I think the thing I am most excited about has got to be Super Mario RPG. Been meaning to play that one for a long time now, and the new coat of paint looks really good on it!
I've never really been a huge fan of 2D Mario games, but Wonder did grab my attention. The animation looks so much more charming than the New Super series, and I want a plushie of Elephant Mario yesterday.
Nice to see Peach is getting her own game! Looking forward to seeing what that turns out like!
Also, I don't think I'll be getting the Switch version, but Gloomhaven getting a release date is very welcome news, and that Star Ocean remake looks awesome!
@SteamEngenius What we saw in this Direct is what I would call high-quality filler content, which I'm cool with because that would be an indicator that Nintendo is metering resources in preparing launch software for the company's next hardware platform, which some would say has been a long time coming. I was also not disappointed that we got no mention of new hardware because I feel like that kind of announcement is worthy of and would require its own Direct. Plus I know it's coming.
In the meantime, this upcoming line-up looks entertaining.😉
For a "we just dropped one of our biggest games" Direct. It was really good.
As a "not e3" showcase it was one of the better ones this year. Some tease for 2024 but a lot of 2023 games.
I found it pretty terrible, personally. The only things I liked were Star Ocean 2 (highlight of the direct), and Mario Wonder looked pretty good (also, Sonic Superstars and P5T may appeal to me, but I already knew about those earlier). I hate Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon, and I dont like Super Mario RPG at all despite its rabid fandom. I dont really care for Wario Ware, I dont like anything Pokemon, and I thought it was ridiculous to mention a splatfest like it was a big deal. I guess Mario Kart 8 DLC is always a good thing, but I knew it was coming, and just saying "Summer" doesnt generate excitement. Releasing it now would have been better. And then there was a bunch of other stuff I didnt care about. So yeah, a super disappointing direct.
In spite of growing up with Mario games, only Pikmin 4 has me genuinely excited. I already have Super Mario RPG, Pikmin 1, Pikmin 2 and Luigi's Mansion 2. The new Mario 2D game looks and sounds very... "New" 😭.
As a gaming oldy, I'm.so happy to finally see the original Metal Gear Solids on a Nintendo Console. It feels like redemption. And also see my beloved Super Mario RPG in a beautiful HD remake. What a time to be alive!
@johnvboy Absolutely, lots of stuff that I'm interested in, but nothing particularly high budget or incredibly exciting. It was primarily a lot of filler to hold us over until the next console, and I'm totally fine with that. Kinda interesting that even the most filler year of Switch is way more robust than the best year of most previous Nintendo consoles.
@BANJO @johnvboy @Switch_Pro I have been expecting Metroid Prime 4 on the next hardware for a long time because they rebooted development and I think that it's going to be an ambitious game, a proper Metroid Prime 4 with capital letters after how good the other games were (except Hunters). Nobody knows but do you think that the next hardware will be backwards compatible or a completely different thing? Second question, if it releases next year, with how much anticipation will it be revealed (if you want to guess)?
Best direct in a long time
An actually good-looking Mario game for once has me stunned. Warioware will be a laugh, and I'm interested in Detective Pikachu. Of course Sonic Superstars looks great, and the full Pikmin collection on Switch is nice. Might look at Star ocean, too. Overall, a pretty good Direct.
It was a lot of Mario. I’m actually cool with that though.
I thought the direct was amazing, just so much I loved seeing from it.
I've been waiting forever for Detective Pikachu Returns. So much Mario goodness (looking forward to Mario RPG and the new 2-D Mario game (elephant Mario? Oh my God, I love it), although I'm also on board with Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon). Penny's Big Breakaway looked exactly like the kind of game I would enjoy. All the Pikmin games are gonna be on Nintendo Switch, which is pretty cool.
Just so much to love from this Nintendo Direct.
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@Banjo-,
Nintendo have put a lot of time, effort and money building the Switch brand, so I doubt they will abandon it after only one generation, and last both the Wii and DS got direct follow up consoles, both with backwards compatibility. Nintendo just misjudged the more casual nature if these markets.
This time round they not only have a better understanding of the market, the Switch is still capable of selling 15-17 million units of hardware, which is insane for a console so late into it's lifecycle, so the hardware has momentum, but more importantly the software is still selling very well, which indicates the userbase on the Switch is still there, ready to buy what comes next, it's not an exact science of course, but Nintendo do have all the right ingredients there to continue the Switch's success to their follow up console.
A more powerful Switch with backwards compatibility seems the most logical choice for Nintendo, and I would expect performance upgrades for some existing software titles as well.
If you're not a big Mario fan, then the rest of the announcements were mild. They're just pending the late life cycle Mario Party game that the Wii, Wii U, and 3DS had, in order to start phasing out the Switch. Remakes, remasters, old ports... They're the standard nowadays. Unless it's F-Zero GX or the Xenosaga trilogy, I don't care about remakes/remasters.
@AcridSkull Does that mean you think it was bad?
@Switch_Pro,
I think that is more down to the market place for software on the Switch, still being there in significant numbers, which also bodes well for Nintendo's next console.
Super Mario RPG remake is probably the best thing Nintendo has ever done. I haven’t even looked through the rest of the news, that’s how much I’m overwhelmed.
New 2D Mario looks like good fun and I look forward to a Peace game but other than that, not much for me. I like Super Mario RPG and Star Ocean looks interesting but I probably won't play them.
It was awesome. I'm not going to buy every single game of course, but there were a lot of great surprises for me personally. I must have avoided the rumors. It was refreshing to learn about new games this way and so many are coming yet this year.
Not to be a negative Nancy, but the continued lack of new classic games for NSO and Expansion Pack is really beginning to irk me. They announced Gameboy and GBA and it's been at best a trickle of releases since then. What are we paying for, exactly?
I think it was average in my opinion.
I gave score 6/10 since I have zero interest with zelda DLC, splatoon event, felt indifferent with Pokemon Scarlet / Violet DLC.
It's in my top 10 Nintendo Directs of all time.
November and December hitting my pocket book with sweet RPGs: gotta have Super Mario RPG, (again) Persona 5 Tactica, and Dragon Quest Monsters: the Dark Prince. Also want Super Mario Wonder. 2023 proving to be a worthy successor to 2022 in the Switch compendium of great games released.
8 out of 10 if you ask me. Super Mario RPG stole the show.
honestly went in with no expectations whatsoever and was quite pleased by the end.
My first direct where I didn't have at least one game I wanted to play, but that was bound to happen eventually. Glad to see so many happy people on the socials, and especially in this comments section and on youtube, gonna be a fun few months of anticipation, just wish they could have confirmed a few non-Nintendo games for N64.
I voted Very Good, primarily because it was much better than expected, which was no Direct at all. Several interesting new games, remakes and compilations. A good examination of Pikmin 4, and a nice surprise that the first games in that series will be available. The only disappointment while watching was the next wave of Mario Kart tracks had no official release date, much less a "Available after this Direct" that I was hoping to hear during the announcement.
Obviously, if this was promoted as a major Direct, the lack of high profile game announcements or release dates would have made it almost a failure. Since the entire thing was a surprise (to most), and there were some very nice surprises among the broader surprise, it was definitely a good one, and certainly a much better than the previous Direct in that context.
Top 3 games for me were Super Mario RPG, Super Mario Wonder and Batman Arkham Trilogy. The new Sonic looked good too.
@sanderev @samuelvictor @UltimateOtaku91 100% agreed, this has been the best Nintendo Direct since 2022 imo. The inevitable September Direct is gonna have a very hard time topping today's.
As for myself, I'm looking forward to playing these 13 games! 🙂
October 2023
Silent Hope - October 3rd
Detective Pikachu Returns (sequel) - October 6th
Super Mario Bros. Wonder - October 20
Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol. 1 - October 24
November 2023
Star Ocean: Second Story R - November 2nd
Super Mario RPG - November 17
December 2023
Dragon Quest Monsters: The Dark Prince - December 1st
TBA 2023
MythForce
TBA 2024
Penny's Big Breakaway - Early 2024
Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon (Remaster)
Untitled Princess Peach game
Really good Direct; one of the best in recent memory. Tons of variety, long overdue ports, and reveals of games that people have been asking for years like the Mario titles.
With that said, some of my absolute favorite franchises are the somewhat niche ones like Chibi-Robo, so I was kinda bummed not to see any announcements for them.
Still, I recognize that we have a solid lineup for this year and I can hardly wait to try them out.
@SteamEngenius Nintendo's even been using the same visual style for 2D Mario titles since 2006. Looks like another soulless "New" SMB title with a few new bells and whistles
More power to folks who were pumped. Having grown up with these franchises when they were new and innovative, my bar is higher. When 2D Mario titles look about the same, we're talking since 2006 when the "New" SMB titles began, I don't get pumped about new powerups or more detailed character models. Everything just looks copy + pasted. It's why I was hard on TOTK. I enjoyed it, but they recycled a LOT of assets in that one while inexplicably raising the price. A sparse sky world and repetitive underworld are not the kinds of development investments that warrant a higher price tag. Again, if you dig it, awesome, but having followed this company since 1985, I'm seeing minimal effort
@DwaynesGames heck ya. So many heavy hitters.
I'm liking that Overcooked formula is turning into a genre. Manic Mechanic looks like the kind of frantic madness you'd expect from a game like this, although maybe a bit too much like Overcooked (Moving Out was noticeably different). But still, this is a co-op game that is really designed around having other people, not just "and there's a second player there" like most of them.
My wish list:
1. Sonic Superstars
2. Super Mario RPG remake
3. WarioWare: Move It!
4. Super Mario Bros. Wonder
It's wonderful how they moved the Switch from the almost dead console list to the still strong and delivering console list. October is gonna be an incredible month!
WOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
I am very excited about the news today and can't wait to play 'Super Mario Bros. Wonder', 'Detective Pikachu Returns', 'Sonic Superstars', the untitled 'Peach' game, 'Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon (Remastered), 'Super Mario RPG (Remastered)', 'Wario Ware: Move it!' and 'Penny's Big Breakaway' along with the DLC for 'Pokemon Scarlet and Violet.'
I was pretty disappointed with the lineup for Switch this year but it is looking heaps better now with all these new games on the horizon. It is good to see the 'Arkham' games coming to Switch too and as somebody who played them multiple times over the years I would highly recommend them to Batman fans that have never played the games because they are the best Batman games ever made but it is disappointing they didn't include a remastered 'Arkham Origins' on it too.
@sleepinglion Honestly, as somebody that still enjoys playing older games the graphics for 'Super Mario World: Wonder' don't bother me much and I liked the 'New Super Mario Bros' games so if it is as good as them I will most likely love this game. I feel there is too much focus on graphics these days and not enough on gameplay.
@Banjo- @johnvboy
I believe the same as johnvboy in that after the disaster that was the Wii U they have managed to build up a strong brand with the Switch. I would think the next console is a follow up to the Switch because of this.
I would think it will be backwards compatible too, from a business perspective this all makes logical sense.
The only slight worry I have is that Nintendo is Nintendo, I'm sure you know what I mean by that. You never can quite tell with them. I hope they don't go off course with some gimmick for the next console...
While I believe that to be very unlikely it needs to be mentioned, and with the failure of the Wii U I strongly think and hope they proceed with the sensible path of expanding upon the Switches success with a more powerful and backwards compatible variant.
On answer to your second question, if it's revealed next year I believe they will go all out like with the Switch. They know that it will need to launch with a must have title. Breath of the wild launched with Switch and basically sold the system by itself. They will want to replicate this again. It will have been over six years since Odyssey soon so I would like to think the Switches successor will launch with a new 3D Mario.
Mario RPG was the best thing on there, just couldnt believe that. Completely brilliant, hopefully I will finish it now as never did on the Virtual Console, always got to cloud land and could never beat the boss.
Super Mario Wonder, looks like someone took some mushrooms and then transferred the fever dream to the game, Elephant Mario just looks great. Definitely getting that.
Overall it was a pretty okay Direct. But I think it's a bit of a Marioverse overload. It's awesome that we can play all Pikmin mainline titles on Switch this year. Dragon Quest Monsters looks like a lot of fun and that Star Ocean game looked very awesome as well.
I was truly bummed out by any lack of Metroid Prim 4 and/or Fire Emblem related news.
@UltimateOtaku91 I hear you friend, distinct lack of square enix on Xbox for sure, but couple persona games included with game pass? Not to mention all the other stuff that looked great. Honestly would love to be more excited for switch right now but for me personally they've hit a dead end.
@Banjo- If I had to place a bet, I would say there is absolutely no chance in hell it won't be backwards compatible. In fact, I fully expect it to be named Switch too, but a different variation on that name. New Switch, Switch 2, WonderSwitch, Double Switch, whatever. I could see MP4 being cross-generation unless it is still years away. Nintendo won't want to put all their eggs on the successor so the original Switch will continue being supported for the foreseeable future, even if it gets lesser versions of the games.
I'm most excited about the re-released classics, as we already know they're great.
Those are the ones I put on my wishlist. The rest have to earn it with reviews on release.
It's obvious Nintendo is putting all their efforts in software for the next system.
Most of the games showcased were made by third parties.
Removed - trolling/baiting
Seems like I might have ticked someone off with my previous, now deleted comment. I might have gotten a bit too excited earlier, so let me put it this way: it's about time fans of franchises other than Fire Emblem, Xenoblade and Kirby* started getting spoiled rotten. In the case of this Direct, it was Mario and Pikmin fans, and as a diehard, near lifelong fan of the latter myself, we more than deserve it after all this time. Nintendo is trying to make up for years of radio silence, something fans of the other franchises I mentioned above have zero concept of.
*Still love Kirby though.
@sleepinglion Look closer. The visual style of Mario Wonder is a complete overhaul. You can't look at those character models and those animations and say it's copy-pasted from NSMB, it just doesn't make sense
to the 95% who did not vote for pikmin 4, get your life together !
@Stamina_Wheel
My sentiments exactly, plenty to be interested in with RPG Mario, Mario Wonder, Detective Pikachu I just can't get excited when things don't surprise me (OK with the exception of 'wonder' and ,Peach' games hey its great to see everyone so happy rite??
Love the profile pic huge respect and love to anybody wearing the 'metalhead badge' for sure I used to do all the 'metalhead' nights
at the 'Leisure lounge' club in Harlow just wow I still listen to drum n bass to this day and there still isn't anything as sonically beautiful as 'Metal heads'.....peace
@BANJO,
I think they will launch with a new Mario Kart game. or new 3D Mario, the recent success of the Mario Bros movie has put the IP to the front of many peoples minds.
@samuelvictor yeah, possibly. I mea,n, there is no point in releasing new hardware in this or the next year with how well Switch sells. My Peach game comment was a throwback to "Untitled Goose Game"
@ComfyAko Oh! lol I loved Untitled Goose Game
I agree that the Switch is currently selling so well still, thats a big part of the reason we haven't seen upgraded hardware despite even some first party games starting to chug. I think wihgout the pandemic and other factors causing chip shortages, we'd have probably seen a "pro" style model refresh instead of the OLED.
@johnvboy @Switch_Pro I agree with your replies. They make total sense. However, it's Nintendo, you never know, like @BANJO said. I have every Nintendo console since SNES except Virtual Boy that wasn't released here so I grew up playing on Nintendo and yet I don't have a clue about what they will do after Switch. I have noticed a change for the worse since Switch became a hit. They are more serious about business and profits than ever before and I don't see them as the user-friendly company and the great value they were before, e.g., Player's Choice, Nintendo Selects, Virtual Console discounts, Mario Kart 8 giving a big game for free on Wii U...
@Banjo-,
Nintendo would be on it's third DS and Wii if they had continued to sell anything like the originals, and it makes sense for Nintendo to be making just one console, as they save a fortune in R&D and production costs, plus being able to focus all their development for just one console.
The Switch was a great move, and not a lot of development was needed to produce the lite, perfect scenario for them at the moment.
@Rykdrew Well... I play fighting games since 2017-2018, and I am fighting games fan since... Hm... 2019. So, I know quite a lot of fighting games. You've probably seen my wishlist of fighting games for Nintendo Switch.
«On Nintendo Switch I can recommend a great fighting game from Aksys!
Chaos Code!
Its cheap and its a GREAT game!»
Yeah, I know. I've bought the game in 2021. And finished it in the end of 2022. Completed Arcade Mode on both Endings A and B by all characters.
There's also a sequel in development... Development hell. One of the original creators(Lin brothers. Michael Lin passed away on 2017/12/25 due to illness.) passed away, and the remaining creator(Mickey Lin) has gone through a lot... And sequel was once cancelled. But now, sequel is in development again, so... I hope that the sequel will be released and will be available on Nintendo Switch. And, I hope that Mickey Lin is okay now...
Also, one of the reasons why Switch version of CHAOS CODE -NEW SIGN OF CATASTROPHE- even don't have a delay-based netcode multiplayer, is budget problems. Though, personally, I still don't care about multiplayer in fighting games... I play fighting games alone for story and arcade modes...
«On Switch I play:
Persona 4 Arena Ultimxa
Dragonball Fighter Z
Chaos Code
Street Fighter 30th collection
Smash Bros Ultimate
If you wanna play some day!»
Who knows... I still haven't used free 7-day trial subscription, and most of the time, I rarely able to play the games on my Switch at all, sadly... For example, in that month, I've played the games on Switch for a 1 hour! 1 HOUR!... Sigh Being able to play the games on my Switch is usually a kind of celebration to me...
@johnvboy Well, actually, I didn't mean that. I defended that strategy back in the day, although we haven't seen the improvement in terms of software that we were expecting. It makes sense to have a single platform these days. What I don't know what and when the successor will be and come.
@Banjo-,
What do you mean, with the exception of Mario Kart all major franchises and more have been made for the Switch, yes I would agree that we should be seeing less software droughts, but I do feel this was a issue with Nintendo falling behind with it's software on the Switch before launch, they probably just never caught up, then the pandemic came along and messed things up more.
Nintendo having just one platform to develop for is only half of the battle, they needed to invest and bolster their internal EAD development teams, and thing like this can take years to put into place, and start seeing the results.
@johnvboy I mean that Wii U had a lot of new games considering it was supported for a while only and the home consoles before it also received more support in terms of first-party content, while Switch has been more about ports or upgraded ports and sequels (Splatoon 2 and 3) and many beloved IPs have been abandoned. I mean Nintendo as a developer because Monolith and Intelligent Systems have been working as usually. Even Mario Kart is just an expanded version on Switch!
@Banjo-,
Not sure I agree, the Wii U was ok but had ports too, the third party support was decent at launch but dried up soon after. Apart from Splatoon what new games did the Wii U have.
Which franchises are you missing out on with the Switch.
johnvboy wrote:
It's not just the original Splatoon and ports what Wii U was. In a short period of time, Wii U got the following new games (not ports): Mario Kart, Zelda 3D (BotW), Mario 3D, Mario 2D, Star Fox, Donkey Kong, Toad, Kirby, Pikmin, the original Splatoon game, the original Super Mario Maker game plus two Zelda remasters (not ports either).
On Switch, in a longer period of time: the Switch port of BotW (it was originally a Wii U game that was delayed while making the port), no new Mario Kart, no new Zelda until Tears of the Kingdom (based on BotW world), no new Mario 2D until Wonder (just announced), no new Star Fox, no new Donkey Kong, no new Toad and no Pikmin until 4 (not released yet). Also, no Metroid Prime 4 that was announced six years ago. I believe that it's fair to say that only having one platform to develop for, it's underwhelming.
@Banjo- Nintendo can be out of left field, but they are not stupid.
@Banjo- Yes, I agree, the Switch has been abit "same again" as it's recycled alot of the Wii U games. Being a loyal Wii U owner has had it's pitfalls. I really could do with a new Mario Kart now and a Toad Treasure Tracker 2 would be great and of course a new Donkey Kong..
It has worked out well for Nintendo as all they had to do was port them across to the much larger user base and watch the sales fly in. However, for those of us who have already played them it's very underwhelming to say the least 😒
@Banjo-
So not new games then, sequels to many Nintendo franchises and Splatoon, Nintendo like all companies will build upon their existing franchises, and I did state there was no new Mario Kart game, although that was determined by the fact Mario Kart 8 was never going to fill it's potential on the Wii U, as it's a 30 million plus seller at least, Nintendo were always going to bring it to the Switch. although with it's 1060p presentation, brand new battle mode plus the same amount of tracks again via DLC, it still feels very fresh to me.
The Switch has a lot of games which you do not mention, plus games you state they did not have, but are now coming out.
I do feel however you are being a little selective in your Wii U to Switch comparison, and miss out quite a bit of great Switch software.
Animal crossing
Mario Odyssey
Smash Bros Ultimate
Luigi's Mansion 3
Splatoon 2
Splatoon 3
Metroid Dread
Super Mario Party
Ring Fit Adventure
Bowsers Fury (add on to Mario 3D world)
Mario Party Superstars
Switch Sports
Super Mario Maker 2
Kirby And The forgotten Land
Legend Of Zelda Links Awakening (Remake)
Mario Tennis Aces
Mario Golf
Clubhouse Games
Kirby Star Allies
Zelda Skyward Sword HD (Not so sure Twilight Princess or Wind Waker were all that different)
Fire Emblem Three Houses
1-2 Switch
Paper Mario The Origami King
Yoshi's Crafted World
Arms (New Franchise)
Mario Strikers
Miitopia
Metroid Prime remaster
The Switch beats the Wii U hands down, then you have the first partner offerings, and the Pokemon games to consider, and you have to factor in the pandemic, which hit all software development, and affected it for at least two years, and it's still being felt even now.
As for the Wii U ports, this was always going to happen when the console only sold 13 million units, and as I have always said, these games are brand new for the mass majority of Switch owners. Like you stated Nintendo did a good job at supporting a dead console, but you have to excuse them for trying to get those games somewhere near their sales potential.
As for the Metroid Prime 4 situation, this is nothing to do with Nintendo, they farmed the game out to another developer, I am assuming because most of the original development team had left Retro studios, and the new developer messed things up, so they gave it back to Retro who are in the process of rebuilding its team.... not that the franchise is a massive seller anyway. Same with Star Fox, which has not sold decent numbers since Star Fox 64, and the last installment was made by platinum games and looked and controlled like trash, no wonder they are not rushing out to make more.
I think on the whole Nintendo have been awesome on the Switch, and have brought many franchises back that do not sell massive numbers, as pure fan service the console has been outstanding.
By the way thanks for the discussion, nice to have a rational chat on here.
@johnvboy I don't know if it's a good idea to keep replying because we don't agree and this can become an endless loop and I don't feel like getting into it but I need to clarify the following:
· You said that Wii U only had Splatoon as a new game and I proved that wrong. You are confusing new games with new IPs. This is the main point of my reply.
· The other main point is discussing the IPs that are Nintendo classics. That doesn't mean that I deny the existence of other IPs such as Arms or Miitopia.
· The Switch games I mentioned are related to Nintendo's main IPs, it doesn't mean that Switch doesn't have more ports/expansions/sequels and I didn't say that. I skipped other IPs and ports on both platforms. Yes, I mentioned the Zelda 3D remasters because I'm a fan of those, my only mistake. I can erase that part or just acknowledge the existence of another Zelda 3D remaster on Switch (Skyward Sword).
· Animal Crossing: I didn't mention that game on either platform because it's not one of the IPs I referred to.
· Mario Odyssey: I didn't say that Switch doesn't have a new Mario 3D game and it's not included in the IPs that don't have games on Switch so it's obvious that it's an IP that do get new games currently. What I specified is that we don't have a new Mario 2D game o Switch except for Mario Wonder that was announced the day before and I remembered to mention it.
· Smash Bros.: I didn't mention that game on either platform because it's not one of the IPs I referred to. It doesn't mean that it's not important. Pokemon is also important and I didn't mention that IP either.
· Luigi's Mansion 3: I didn't mention that game on either platform because it's not one of the IPs I referred to. It's not made by Nintendo, anyway although yes, before you said so, it was acquired by Nintendo.
· Splatoon 1-2-3: I specifically talked about them.
· Metroid Dread: I didn't say that Switch doesn't have a Metroid game. However, it was not developed by Nintendo and I was specifically referring to Nintendo's output.
· Super Mario Party: I didn't mention that game on either platform because it's not one of the IPs I referred to.
Ring Fit Adventure: I was specifically listing classic IPs. It doesn't mean that Switch doesn't have new IPs such as 1-2 Switch and Ring Fit.
Bowser's Fury: I specified that Switch has expanded ports.
Mario Party Superstars: I didn't mention that game on either platform because it's not one of the IPs I referred to.
Switch Sports: I didn't mention that game on either platform because it's not one of the IPs I referred to.
Super Mario Maker 1-2: I specifically talked about expanded sequels on Switch.
@johnvboy
· Kirby and the Forgotten Land: I didn't say that Switch doesn't have a new Kirby game and it's not included in the IPs that don't have games on Switch so it's obvious that it's an IP that do get new games currently.
· A Link's Awakening and Skywards Sword: I specified 3D Zelda games and I mentioned the two Wii U remasters but I listed them as remasters, not as new games. Skyward Sword is another 3D remaster, so Switch got one and Wii U got two Zelda 3D remasters. The fact that I specified 3D doesn't mean that Link's Awakening is not a good 2D/isometric remake because it is.
· Fire Emblem Three Houses. Yes and Engage but I specifically mentioned that Intelligent Systems and Monolith are working well.
· 1-2 Switch. Yes and its sequel but I didn't say that Switch doesn't have new IPs.
· Paper Mario The Origami King. Yes and Wii U also had a new Paper Mario but it was not one of the IPs that I was comparing so I didn't include it in either list. Moreover, I mentioned that Intelligent Systems are working well.
· Yoshi's Crafted World. Yes and Wii U also had a new Yoshi game but it was not one of the IPs that I was comparing so I didn't include it in either list.
· Arms. Yes and I didn't say that Switch doesn't have new IPs.
· Mario Strikers. Yes but it was not one of the IPs that I was comparing.
· Miitopia. Yes but it was not one of the IPs that I was comparing.
· Metroid Prime remaster. Yes and I didn't say the Switch doesn't have remasters.
· I didn't say that Switch doesn't have more quantity.
· I didn't say that Switch doesn't have new IPs.
· I didn't complain about Wii U ports. I have never ever complained about them except for the pricing.
· I didn't say that Nintendo supported a dead console. Nintendo killed Wii U but they supported it very well until they did so.
· I didn't say that Metroid Prime 4's development is Nintendo's fault.
· I don't agree that only IPs that sell well should be supported, e.g., Star Fox. I'm a gamer, not a stockholder.
· I don't agree about Nintendo's output having improved since. I believe it's the opposite. It's a longer period of time, one console instead of two and Nintendo's (Nintendo as a developer) output has been underwhelming. That's what I said and I know you disagree but I'm not going to change my mind because of your disagreement and although I completely and honestly respect your opinion, I really don't want to keep discussing the same thing over and over.
BANJO wrote:
Yes, exactly that. Tons of ports, nothing wrong with that, but not only they are expensive but the truth is that few new games developed by Nintendo have been released for Switch.
@Banjo-,
You can't have it both ways, the Wii U had very few new games if you put the same rules on it, the Switch had far more. And I never stated you said things you did not, only that you seem to be suggesting the Switch's existing franchise new games, are not indeed new games, whereas they were new games on the Wii U.
And Nintendo are more than just their own internal EAD departments, they own developers like Monolith, so again it's all exclusive Nintendo content.
And you just are not taking the fact Nintendo's in house teams are pretty small as software development goes, and the many hours lost to the pandemic, pretty sure there would have been even more content.
Nintendo by their own admission had underestimated it's launch Switch software development time, and as a result devoted an entire E3 to one game, Breath Of The Wild, which as you say was a port...
Pretty sure Nintendo are making sure that will not happen again, as most of it's development has already been moved to it's next console, and barring another Pandemic, we should see an even better output for the Switch 2..
The only reason we are discussing this over and over, is you are not looking at the full picture, and are contradicting many things you are saying.
Bottom line, the Wii U only had Spatoon and Nintendo Land as brand new franchised software, the rest was new games form existing franchises, a spin off mini game in Captain Toad, and ports of older games, not sure why you are trying to convince me and yourself this was any different.
I think we both have our own personal opinions on all this, and once again thank you for the discussion.
@johnvboy That reply has nothing to do with any of my comments LOL. Literally, I haven't said a single thing that you said I said and there is not a single contradiction in my comments. I think it's time to agree to disagree and stop it here.
@Banjo-,
Totally agree... lets end this now.
@Vyacheslav333
@Vyacheslav333 I play games since 1981 and Fighting games since 90´s.
I played international Street Fighter championships, since World Cyber Gaming (1996), where I was sponsored by Samsung.
I also participated in SALEX, in South America, where I was runner-up in Street Fighter and competed in a final at the Monza Circuit (Formula 1), at a Capcom Club event (I was sponsored by Walmart).
This is all very old, before EVO existed!
I have a lot of fighting games.
On steam I have absolutely ALL fighting games ever created.
I have over 3000 hours on Tekken 7 to get an idea.
But like you, I don't have time to play unfortunately.
I didn't know that Chaos Code will have a sequel! I will look forward to this! Thanks for the info!
90% of my time playing games is playing fighting games. The other styles of games don't amuse me that much.
But, I promise to take it easy on you if we play online
I'm old but I still know how to play LOL
@Rykdrew «I play games since 1981 and Fighting games since 90´s.
I played international Street Fighter championships, since World Cyber Gaming (1996), where I was sponsored by Samsung.
I also participated in SALEX, in South America, where I was runner-up in Street Fighter and competed in a final at the Monza Circuit (Formula 1), at a Capcom Club event (I was sponsored by Walmart).
This is all very old, before EVO existed!
I have a lot of fighting games.
On steam I have absolutely ALL fighting games ever created.»
WOOOOOOOW! Wow! That's amazing!
«I have over 3000 hours on Tekken 7 to get an idea.»
Wow! That's crazy!
«But like you, I don't have time to play unfortunately.»
Ekh/Eh(Эх)...
«90% of my time playing games is playing fighting games. The other styles of games don't amuse me that much.»
Haha, I understand it.
«But, I promise to take it easy on you if we play online»
Haha, okay.
«I'm old but I still know how to play LOL»
@Stamina_Wheel
My apologies for the delayed response yes indeed they were the Saturday sessions😎👍🏻❤️😎
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