It's fair to say they we weren't all that impressed by the Retro-Bit Generations, 2016's attempt to bring a selection of classic Data East, Capcom and Jaleco titles to the home. An odd library, terrible emulation and general sloppiness made it a product to avoid, despite the tantalising promise of having 100 classic games in a single micro-console.
Retro-Bit has listened to the lukewarm feedback it received and is back with a successor which shares many of the same games, but features superior performance and a few new (and hitherto unreleased in the domestic arena) titles which will make this a system of interest for seasoned retro gamers. But is it worth your hard-earned cash this Christmas? That's what we're here to tell you, silly!
What is the Retro-Bit Super Retro-Cade?
Like its forerunner, the Super Retro-Cade is a micro-console which plugs into your television via HDMI or composite AV. It comes pre-installed with more than 90 games covering a wide range of formats, including the NES, SNES and even arcade. Two six-button pads are bundled in the boxed (with generously long leads, yummy) and the console has a SD card slot for transferring save data. The case design is practically identical to the Generations, but it now comes in white. The pad design is entirely different however; gone are the 6-button Genesis / Mega Drive-style pads seen before, replaced with a controller which looks like the SNES pad and the original 3-button Genesis controller had a baby. Also included in the box are AV leads (for both HDMI and composite) and a power adapter.
Retro-Bit Super Retro-Cade: What games are included?
Over 90 titles come pre-loaded on the Super Retro-Cade, taken from the back catalogues of Capcom, Data East, Irem and Technos – four of the most notable coin-op makers of the '80s and '90s (Jaleco is absent this time around). Some of these titles were included on the Generations – such as Knights of the Round, Captain Commando and Ghouls 'n Ghosts – so those of you who (unwisely) purchased last year's model will experience some duplication. If you're coming to the Super Retro-Cade entirely fresh then this obviously isn't an issue, and the selection of games included here is undeniably impressive.
Capcom's arcade offerings include Final Fight, Strider, Forgotten Worlds, 1942, Gun.Smoke, Mercs, Mega Twins, Three Wonders, Armored Warriors, Side Arms and Bionic Commando, as well as many others. Data East's Bad Dudes Vs. DragonNinja, Super Burgertime, Midnight Resistance, Boogie Wings and Joe & Mac: Caveman Ninja all make the cut, while Irem contributes the likes of Mr. Heli, Image Fight, Ninja Spirit and X-Multiply. Technos games predictably include brawlers such as Double Dragon, Double Dragon 3, The Combatribes and Renegade.
Coin-op games take up the vast majority of the Super Retro-Cade's library, but home console versions are also featured – sometimes duplicating content. There are two versions of Mercs, for example (arcade and Genesis / Mega Drive), but given that the Sega port has an exclusive mode, it's not a massive issue. We also get two versions of Strider – arcade and NES – but the latter is a very different game, so again, it's not really the problem it initially appears to be. Elsewhere, we have Mega Man 2, Mega Man 3, Final Fight 3, Mighty Final Fight, Joe & Mac (and its tropical sequel) – all games that are worth a look and, in their original cart format, would cost you an arm and a leg to acquire.
What's really cool about this particular console is that it is giving several arcade games their domestic debuts. Capcom's Armored Warriors – a side-scrolling fighter which serves as the forerunner to the one-on-one scrapper Cyberbots, released in 1995 – has never been ported to any home system. Neither has Data East's insanely brilliant shooter Boogie Wings (known as The Great Ragtime Show in Japan), which allows you to hook objects with your plane and even leap from your craft in order to control other vehicles (and even animals). While it could be argued that these relatively obscure coin-ops lack the brand-recognition of games which are notably absent (there's no Street Fighter II, for example), the fact that they can be experienced in the home for the first time ever (outside of legally-questionable emulation, of course) is cause for celebration, whichever way you look at it.
Retro-Bit Super Retro-Cade: Performance
One of the big issues with the Retro-Bit Generations was the quality of the emulation; many titles suffered from crippling performance issues such as slow-down, glitchy music and – in the case of Capcom's arcade shooter Varth – the wrong screen orientation. The good news is that on the whole, such problems have been eradicated with the Super Retro-Cade. The console appears to be Android-based (at least judging from UI elements) and uses emulators (in the case of the some of the arcade games, the MAME decryption screen even appears upon loading – oops).
On the Generations, we noticed serious issues with games like R-Type III on the SNES, so we were quick to test these on the Super Retro-Cade. The good news is that R-Type III no longer suffers from awkward slowdown, and the music no longer fluctuates depending on the intensity of the on-screen action. Varth is also displayed in its proper vertical orientation, too. Emulation isn't perfect across the board – Double Dragon and Midnight Resistance are noticeably choppy and Boogie Wings has some very minor audio and frame-rate problems – but it's a massive improvement over the Generations. NES, SNES and Genesis emulation is nigh-on perfect, and pretty much all of the Capcom CPS-1 and CPS-2 titles run flawlessly, too.
The menu system is also a big improvement over the one seen on the Generations. Games are laid out in a grid system which gives a better overview of the titles included, and it's possible to filter them based on a series of criteria, including genre, system, publisher and name. Each game has an info screen where you can load save states and read a short description, but rather annoyingly each one defaults to a hideously stretched full-screen display once loaded. It's not possible to set the screen aspect ratio to "original" on a global level, so before you load up a new game you have to make sure you enter the options menu (press Select) and pick the "original" setting. In-game, pressing Start and Select at the same time brings up a pause menu from where you can save and load game states, reset the game's settings to default and drop back to the main menu.
Retro-Bit Super Retro-Cade: Conclusion
The Super Retro-Cade rights many of the wrongs present in the Generations from last year. Performance – while still not perfect across the board – is much improved, and we still can't quite believe there's now a legal way to play the sublime Boogie Wings in the comfort of your own home. It's disappointing that so many key Capcom, Data East, Irem and Technos titles didn't make the cut however (why no arcade R-Type, R-Type II and R-Type Leo?), and that Retro-Bit has used so many of the same games that were present on the Generations. It's also a pity that titles like Double Dragon suffer from seemingly inexplicable emulation problems when later – and more advanced – games like Capcom's CPS-2 Armored Warriors run as smooth as butter. It may well take a third attempt from Retro-Bit to finally crack this intriguing concept, but we'd argue that it's worth the $60 asking price just to play Boogie Wings on your TV.
Did we mention that we really like Boogie Wings?
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Wow if the emulation on this are spot on excellent then I may think about picking it up. Probably might hack it again to see if any of the NES, SNES, Genesis, SMS, Game Boy, GBC, GBA, and Arcade emulation works too.
Just get a RetroPie!
@Kanbei And then constantly remind people you have one.
@Kanbei That's just enabling the stealing of games.
I'm officially calling the practice of one constantly saying "Just get a RetroPie!" Pie-Facing.
As in, they never get out of your face as long as you're doing something different than what they've deemed the only way to play retro video games. :smh:
I'd love to get my hands on one of these ... but they don't ship to Canada!
@SmaMan Wow didn't know it was so offensive! Noted.
@Kanbei
It's not that it's particularly offensive... it just never friggin' ends! Every article or discussion about the SNES Classic, or this, or some kind of retro collection being re-released on a major console, etc. has somebody in the comments trying to remind people that RetroPies are a thing that exists.
We know. We are aware. Move along.
I get it. I guess for me, I just discovered and got the RetroPie recently and I've been on a kick.
Just get a RetroPie!
It's a decent lineup of games but the little issues still make me wonder. If I can use my 8bitdo controller that would maybe push me over the edge. It has a nice design though. Hmm, a tough call. Back to MAME for now.
BTW, just get a RetroPie. 😁
@Aurumonado Bravissimo!
A lot of good games in this collection but the sometimes ok sometimes sub par mostly good emulation makes me want to wait on it.
I really want to build 1 of these into an arcade cabinet for the basement though.......maybe one day I'll find one worthy
@SolarJetman We recommend checking in with PNP Games! They have stores based in Canada and also offer online shopping. They will be getting in the Super Retro-Cade!
@Retro-Bit Can other controllers be used with the console other than the provided ones. I have an 8bitdo that I would like to use through USB is possible.
@SmaMan Retropie is a good system and it way more versatile. So what if people bring it up. It is a reliable system. I have a huge collection of Carts for all my systems. Just having them on one console is the best way. There are more things to get upset over. You don't like what they have to say? move on or ignore them. Don't get all off kilter when someone brings up retropie. So take your own advice. "We know. We are aware. Move along." Oh and also get a raspberry pi and retropie!!
Retropie anyone? Anyone?
@Prof_Yoshtonics we cannot guarantee 100% compatibility at this time unfortunately. But some USB controllers should in fact be compatible.
Since their new console runs on Android, I wouldn't mind seeing one that includes both classic games and indie games next year.
@Retro-Bit Okay, fair enough. I'll look into it further when the data's available. Thanks for the reply.
I really like when these things attempt to provide some lesser-known titles, and the price isn't too bad on this one. Even if a few games lag, it almost seems worth the cost.
I have mine pre-ordered Can't wait to play it
@Retro-Bit
ill be buying at least one of these systems.
im sure most folks here dont know about boogie wings so im glad you guys did that one...
blade master and armored warriors is a real treat as well.
i was hoping for ninja baseball batman, 64th street a detective story, undercover cops and night slashers...im hoping yall make a third console and address this.
im thinking issues were ran into with those games?
Love me that CPS action
@ogo79 I was hoping for Dark Seal 2, Light Bringer and Silent Dragon, must have hit a snag with those too 😉
@NinChocolate
you have no idea how long ive had silent dragon and gate of doom on my list. dark seal 2 is wizard fire outside of japan and its on the super retro-cade labeled as wizard fire.
its confusing but it goes like this:
1-dark seal/japan aka gate of doom/not japan
2-dark seal 2/japan aka wizard fire/not japan
i play dungeon magic/light bringer on the taito legends 2/ps2 disc.
lol i have a dungeon magic shirt come to think of it.
@ogo79 Thank you for your support!
There were definitely some games we really wanted to include, but found they were not optimized and decided against including them with the console. This could be due to sound or game play.
We heard the feedback from our last console, and we wanted to make sure we released the best version possible!
@Retro-Bit
maybe someday you guys can find a way to cram in ninja baseball batman, 64th street a detective story, undercover cops and night slashers.
@ogo79 oh ok I always thought there was a Wizard Fire 2 for some reason
I am not getting a RetroPie....BITE me
@ogo79 we are pleased to announce that we are exploring the possibility of featured DLC available through firmware updates via USB in the near future!
@NinChocolate
nope no sir, im always willing to help out a fellow beat em up fan!
@Retro-Bit
im glad i got that info from you lol
keep us posted on that please. this little system has me excited like everyone is for the switch...
Is this available in the UK
We are getting a new "retro console" almost every week at this point. The market is gonna overflow and crash.
Further all these options flooding the retro market might make a VC on the Switch less likely if Nintendo sees the market as unviable. That would make me very sad.
Over 90 officially licensed classic games (and no major complaints with the emulation this time). Controllers with proper length cables. An SD card slot. HDMI and composite AV output. $60. Just saying.
@SmaMan not all of us were aware, i just heard that this thing exist based on Pi 3. Its as legal as buying a pc. How to use it its up to you.
Oh my, not crap, from retrobit no less. And Super Dodgeball arcade?!?! I may not be able to resist this. I want to see that in action. I haven't touched the arcade game of that in I can't remember how long now (1990 maybe.)
@Retro-Bit i really hope you guys got this emulation thing straightened out this time. For $75 on Amazon, I really felt burned by Generations! I mean i wanted to love it but i literally I unhooked it within 5 days between the terrible emulation and just too many black & white games!! 😩
After reading all the comments, I've decided on a RetroPie.
@Retro-Bit : will do, thanks!
@retro_player_22 Why? Just get yourself a small form factor PC and play them correctly with MAME.
@YANDMAN Nah I rather do this, it's more interesting. Besides I got too much thing going on my PC right now.
@retro_player_22 Obviously your choice but this thing looks dreadful. Even better option is buy a wii for a tenner and soft mod it.
Just get a 🅱️etro 🅱️ie
@Retro-Bit : First off, I'm happy something like this exists. Sure one could make an argument for any sort of "Pi" workaround, but I think there's something about having a well-packaged piece of hardware that just works when you give it to someone. Makes for a great gift.
I wanted to ask a question about the Super Retrocade though: I noticed Knights of the Round and other arcade games on the system originally supported 3-4 players on their original cabinets. But given that the Super Retrocade only has 2 USB ports, does either port support the use of a 4-port USB hub & simply attaching additional USB PC controllers should allow 3-4 players to play simultaneously? I would love to know if that works.
I bought one, and love it! It's a fantastic alternative to the nes / snes classic for those of us who don't want to pay scalpers.
wat systems can it emulate well and hows emulation
@Steviis_Father Sadly, no, it doesn't. I tried my 4 port USB adapter and no matter what, it will only ever recognize 2 joypads plugged in (the other two just mirror the functions of the first two), and this is even when loading up a rom of a game that was made for four players. So two players only is your answer.
@gamerjay I don't know what all it supports (I have v1.1), but I do know the following work (besides the ones we already know: mame, genesis, snes, nes): turbografx16, gg, gba, apparently gb and gbc (have not tested myself). sms does not work well (unless the game is loaded in gg mode which makes most games glitchy: the colors are messed up and zoomed in, etc). 32x doesn't seem to work (even with loaded bios). many of the later neogeo games just give a black screen or are very slow loading/run choppy. other systems may require some kind of hacked firmware (but they won't all run well due to hardware limitations of the unit). hey, I'm just reporting what others have said. it's not a perfect system. some games don't run well, it's all based on the limitations of the emulator loaded in the firmware (retroarch). so, I have a rasberry pi... but for the price, this is a decent system if you like the ease of packing it along for your friends and they have a crt tv lying around that's even better.
@YANDMAN yes. there are no scanlines, no support for vector games, midway games tend to run poorly (but you can run the older games with pre-loaded nvrams and other tricks). only dedicated usb controllers work (and no more buttons than the default controllers have, which is 8 plus the 4 way d-pad). it does a surprising amount of things, but this doesn't replace a laptop running mame/mess or a really good pi. it's a cheap & easy replacement for those awful "tv plug 'n' play" games that are just running nes clones and shovelware though! Now some people have "hacked" the firmware, but that's beyond my expertise and obviously would void any warranty, I'm talking what you can do with an sd card
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