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361. Posted:

Gamesake wrote:

when it comes to a video game story sometimes less really is more.

that. I agree with that.

yeah, Other M's story was far from great, and the game did put a large emphasis on it. it definitely set out to achieve a goal, and failed at it. but I see this all the time. the stories in the recent Resident Evil games are terrible, and they're getting super convoluted. Perfect example of less is more. It was better when I knew less about Umbrella and Wesker, and the origins of the virus. I get it. Umbrella is a semi-evil power hungry corporation that has been experimenting with biological weapons and OOPS! they made zombies. What else do I have to know? I'm fine with STARS, Umbrella, T-Virus. Those 3 things are all I need. And I get that people felt the same way about Metroid. Like, Samus is a bounty hunter, she works with the Federation, and fights Space Pirates and Metroids. End of story. So I get it, the story sucks. We didn't need it. But this is far from the first video game to have its story butchered when it didn't need to be.

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362. Posted:

other m's story doesn't really focus on the things that are bothering people. it's about samus losing her father figure to a corrupt military, a story i think it tells decently well. if you want to scoff at the idea of unfreezable metroids or physics bending then any metroid game is guilty of the same. on the subject of metal gear, why not complain about how absurd it is that a shirtless bisexual vampire is running around, or any other ridiculous and inexplicable thing seen in those games?

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363. Posted:

People who complain about Other M's story but praise MGS's are hilarious.

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364. Posted:

Here's Other M in a nutshell:

THE EVIL FURBY IS BABY RIDLEY
THE END

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365. Posted:

SpriteKing wrote:

Here's Other M in a nutshell:

THE EVIL FURBY IS BABY RIDLEY
THE END

Yes a specific briefly mentioned plot twist is Other M in a nutshell.

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366. Posted:

romulux wrote:

other m's story doesn't really focus on the things that are bothering people. it's about samus losing her father figure to a corrupt military, a story i think it tells decently well. if you want to scoff at the idea of unfreezable metroids or physics bending then any metroid game is guilty of the same. on the subject of metal gear, why not complain about how absurd it is that a shirtless bisexual vampire is running around, or any other ridiculous and inexplicable thing seen in those games?

I scoff at the corrupt military too. Why did they decide to make the GF evil all of a sudden in Other M? And why does Samus work along side them after all this in Metroid Fusion?

I'd like to forget about Sons of Liberty. They can't all be great games.-Why didn't Raiden ever notice his girlfriend was a computer program? "Honey I'm... huh?" I won't try to pick Metal Gear apart since this is a Metroid thread and because things in Metal Gear are supernatural, and they can't be explained. Metroid has supernatural moments too and I let it slide. Like when "the baby" dies and bestows on Samus the hyper beam along with it's entrails. That would be totally ridiculous to me except people do believe in adrenaline or a second wind being able to trigger seemingly superhuman acts under emotional distress.

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367. Posted:

I wouldn't call the GF evil per se. They're presented as a military-industrial complex, and it's a fairly common story device (and real life device, lol) to have such entities (or clandestine groups within them) to be doing "questionable" things which they believe are for the "greater good".

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368. Posted:

Only a small splinter group of the GF is corrupt. Most of the GF is just fine.

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369. Posted:

Also that last "boss" sucked, you win by looking at it._

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romulux

370. Posted:

Gamesake wrote:

I scoff at the corrupt military too. Why did they decide to make the GF evil all of a sudden in Other M? And why does Samus work along side them after all this in Metroid Fusion?

Metroid has supernatural moments too and I let it slide. Like when "the baby" dies and bestows on Samus the hyper beam along with it's entrails.

fusion introduced the idea of the federation being corrupted, so as far as i see other m is just providing a bridge there. maybe the point is to emphasize why samus chooses to work independently, along with her personal reasons. as for why she continues to work with the federation, well she had been working for them her whole life and it was one sect of military higher ups who were crooked. after what happens in fusion it's pretty clear that she's done working with them for good, though.

i always thought the hyper beam came from the baby metroid overcharging samus' suit with the energy from mother brain. other m did offer another explanation that doesn't make as much sense , but i'm not going to dismiss the whole story over what amounts to a trivial detail. again, the hyper beam has almost no significance to the real story in this game, so why get hung up on it. if this were a movie, yeah, you'd probably be able to hold things like that against it, but video games can't be held to the same standard.

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371. Posted:

Leonzable wrote:

Also that last "boss" sucked, you win by looking at it._

Yeah that was stupid. IGN Guides had this complex strategy to win, and all I had to do is just focus on MB. :P

I wish the Other M story didn't happen. The way they tied up MB was completely unsatisfying. I felt no emotion for her, even though Madeline was doubled over and bawling like a baby. They just tried too much and it ended up being too little, and the result was that the story felt totally disconnected from the rest of the Metroid games.

They absolutely nailed Samus's looks and voice for me, though. Her internal monologue was perfect and inline with the other games in the series (barring some terribly written lines). I liked her newfound emotion, and the trauma with Ridley was really well done.

But what I missed was the atmosphere that Metroid is so well-known for. If they were trying to create it by the story, they failed miserably. There was never really a sense of horror or loneliness -- actually, there was that one section in the game where you begin to doubt Adam and to feel more self-directed (which was awesome), but that was it, and even that was short-lived.

I'll admit that the story was the main drive I had to finish the game in under a week, but I really hated how they wrapped it up. Completely unsatisfying. It was like a really bad JRPG.

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372. Posted:

I have to agree that, at least, Fusion's story was far better. Mainly because Other M decided at the most random times when to be too obvious and when to be too subtle.

No one can ever regret the story though as long as Anthony appears in a future Metroid game (which he better as he is awesome)

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373. Posted:

http://moonbase.rydia.net/mental/blog/gaming/metroid-other-m-...

Read please

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374. Posted:

@KingBroly: I just read it, and it was actually a pretty good read. It was lengthy, but also likely the most intelligent piece I've read that discusses Other M.

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375. Posted:

What if Samus personality from Other M into Brawl. Samus approaches to Kirby and instead of fighting she will say "a baby" :o

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376. Posted:

What I don't fully understand, and I've seen it posted around the interwebs where Adam shoots Samus to stop her from entering into a enemy infested room, when he could just shout stop...

But oh no, I'm (Adam) gonna have to shoot you in the back and make you go unconcious when an enemy's right in front of you. Or is it that he just wanted to see her in her Zero Suit? ;)

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377. Posted:

OtherL wrote:

What if Samus personality from Other M into Brawl. Samus approaches to Kirby and instead of fighting she will say "a baby" :o

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378. Posted:

xDemon720x wrote:

What I don't fully understand, and I've seen it posted around the interwebs where Adam shoots Samus to stop her from entering into a enemy infested room, when he could just shout stop...

But oh no, I'm (Adam) gonna have to shoot you in the back and make you go unconcious when an enemy's right in front of you. Or is it that he just wanted to see her in her Zero Suit? ;)

I think he shoots her not to stop her from entering the Metroid-infested area, but to weaken her so that she can't stop him when he enters with the purpose of sacrificing himself.

He already has a plan to deal with the Metroids, and he knows she won't let him do it, so he stuns her for a short time.

And he wanted to see her in her Zero Suit. Not a bad final image for the man, really.

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379. Posted:

his shooting her makes sense, but doing it before shooting the metroid doesn't. he didn't seem to know whether a freeze gun would work on the larva, so it seems kind of stupid to make samus so vulnerable to it like that without even knowing if he'd be able to stop it. sometimes logic gets sacrificed for extra drama.

maybe it would have made more sense if james had shot her instead, then adam shows up to take him and the metroid out to save samus, i don't know. at least that would have stopped the whining about closure on who deleter was.

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380. Posted:

I rekon Samus' should have grown some and shoot Adam.

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