Topic: Nintendo: The Dead Horse Farm

Well, in a way you´re right. It´s been a long time since Nintendo tried to create new characters. I wish they dared to experiment more in that area. This being said, Nintendo doesn´t need any more characters. Their new IP is Wii Sports, Brain Age and Wii Fit. New brands like those are keeping the Wii (&DS) alive. And then Nintendo keeps us regular gamers occupied with sequels to the classic games, which I don´t really mind. As long as the new games are inspired, there really can´t be too many of them. I think using Team Ninja for Metroid is a great example of giving fresh blood to a series. And if Metroid is a dead horse, I hope this one turns out to be a flesheating zombiehorse.

I agree TeamNinja+Metroid=superzombie horse!
Did I happen to mention that horses are delicious when grilled?

I know I would be excited if they made Rosalina a playable character in Super Mario Galaxy 2.

I don't think there's anything inherently bad about a sequel; if it's a good game it's a good game. What's bad is if companies keep doing sequels at the expense of promoting new IP and Nintendo has been guilty of that (see lack of promotion for Disaster Day of Crisis or any localisation for Captain Rainbow) to be sure, but there are companies that have been far worse (see Eidos and EA in the 90s).

Every time I'm reminded of that game I get sad; I want to buy it!

Well, it's at a knock-down price on Play-Asia.com right now: US$19.99; I'm quite tempted, though having to use a walkthrough to understand the dialogue and make the right responses really turns me off despite the discounted price. It's like watching an anime film with a synopsis in front of you...

Captain Rainbow was way too strange for localization, TBH. I mean, in one of the quests, you get vibrator to prove Birdo's gender. Golf player plays with his balls. And so on.

Not to mention it's 4 player co-op (or competetive).

Nintendo, as everyone else has said, has to change nothing. Even IF (I say if since I love them) we don't like it, their making billions, so changing things is not on their minds. And from the looks of Metroid: Other M, I'd say Nintendo is trying something new.

What? Oh wait, I did hear there was some questionable content...oh well, looks like it's the walkthrough guide for me dammit. I simply cannot pass it up! I really really want Tenchu next month, but that may have to wait for August given that a new MST3K DVD collection is coming out in July as well...

Off-topic, but what movies does it contain? I'm personally big fan of bad movies, and it is nice to see someone else digging them too. But I'm not that big fan of MST3K, as I want my bad movies without comment tracks.

I've got the full set of MST3K stuff; including the out of print ones because I get them all at release.

Volume XV has

#102 - The Robot vs. The Aztec Mummy
#509 - The Girl In Lover's Lane
#604 - Zombie Nightmare
#616 - Racket Girls

should be awesome.

their are two main reasons for continuing a series rather then makeing something new
1- MONEY
2-It allows devolpers to move past the creating new worlds and spend more time on the gameplay. If the smash bros series wasent based on nintendo mascots theyd spend a huge bulk of their time creating new people to star in the game rather then the game itself.

This is an argument I never understood. Sure Nintendo reuses characters on a constant basis but how in the heck can a person argue that Super Mario Bros. 3 feels like the same experience as Super Mario Galaxy? Same characters but completely different games on a technical level. The characters are just vehicles for new experiences. Obviously there are exceptions, such as Twilight Princess, The second and third Metroid Primes and the recently announced Super Mario Galaxy 2. While these are undoubtably derivative, that doesn't make them bad games and it definately doesn't make them not worth your gaming time. Have some of us gotten so spoiled that we're starting to turn our nose up at superb games just because they are similar to other great games we've played before? Get over yourselves and enjoy games for what they are instead of dwelling on what they could be.

I'd also argue that Nintendo is one of the ONLY companies out there taking any risks and for the last 5 years it's been paying off for them big time. All the while we have little forum wieners complaining that they are forgetting there roots and then when they finally proven that they aren't forgetting those fans, the same people complain that they aren't being original... does anyone else find that as rediculous as I do? To those people all I can say is get a life.

I want to be a forum wiener when I grow up.

Nintendo has plenty of new horses to beat and even more to resurrect and beat. You've got Sin and Punishment 2, Endless Ocean 2, etc. You've got long dormant properties like Punch-Out and, to a lesser extent, Golden Sun. You've got new takes on old properties like Metroid and potentially the next Zelda. You've also got new 2nd party fair like Monado and Line Attack Heroes. Anyone complaining now is proving Nintendo's point of being intiasiable. They've made some really silly decisions before, but this is the first time in awhile it seems as if they're trying to please everyone.

Sin and Punishment is a Treasure game (Nintendo is just publishing it for them), but in general you're right.

I know, I'm counting 2nd party and outsourced fair too, because even if you take the developer away, some of these franchises would still belong to Nintendo.

S&P belongs to Treasure. It wasn't outsourced or done by a 2nd party. Treasure is just a small developer, so they asked Nintendo to publish it.

Sony published FFVII, but you can't take the developer away there, either. It's still Square's.

Just setting the record straight. It doesn't matter.

You're right. I cannot believe that after all of these years, for no reason, the majority of the hardcore gamers manage to turn their backs on Nintendo, just because they're trying to appeal to the casual audiences. It seems that we're the only reasonable hardcore gamers left on the planet.

[/quote] You're right. I cannot believe that after all of these years, for no reason, the majority of the hardcore gamers manage to turn their backs on Nintendo, just because they're trying to appeal to the casual audiences. It seems that we're the only reasonable hardcore gamers left on the planet.

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I think I must be the only gamer on the planet who once loved Playstation and PS2 and now think the Wii is practically the bees knees of console gaming. I don't own a PS3 nor do I want one. I won't lie. The Wii is very last-gen tech with the ONLY original feature being it's controller, but in today's mostly creatively innept industry, that's more than enough. Especially for a company like Nintendo. With low sales of so many Wii titles, even some that play it safe, the controller is a message to get creative or go home.