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Sean_Aaron

NightmareEater wrote:

Seriously, Nintendo should slowly switch from the young demographic. Nintendo always been a company that release kiddie games. But I believe that Nintendo has the ability to release mature games that aren't kiddie or shooters. Because honestly, I'm tired of Nintendo thinking everyone who play their game are a kid or on Miiverse. (Because on Miiverse, you're a kid or a banned user! :V)

Well, like shaneoh rightly said they make games that can be played by anyone. The reality is though that if they don't try to appeal to kids growing up on tablet games their fanbase can only decline as their older fans start to die off, and if the company is to survive another century, they cannot afford to make a massive short-term change in demographic appeal.

If by "mature" you mean games with a more adult narrative, Xenoblade Chronicles was a step in that direction, although in a fantastic setting. I think "mature" tends to be used more as shorthand for "contains bloody violence, swearing and nudity" more than anything else and I can't see Nintendo pandering in that direction for a bit of extra coin. Maybe Devil's Third is an experiment in that direction, but it's not clear to me if that game is going to be serious or not - the multiplayer game looks fairly gonzo, so I'm not thinking it's going to be terribly deep in terms of the themes it explores.

I'm all for Nintendo producing more mature themed games, I'm not for them producing a lot of crass, sexist, exploitative games to appeal to teenagers looking for cheap thrills.

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TuVictus

Really, all Nintendo really absolutely needs to do is just get more support for their consoles. Specifically more western support, preferably. Other than that, they can continue making all their games and hardware they way they've wanted and always done. They just gotta make their consoles appealing to "Everyone" including older gamers. Not "Everyone ages 7+" where it's most clearly aimed at children. Hopefully whoever becomes CEO realizes this and becomes aggressive like Yamauchi in regards to third parties. But not treat them with scorn like he did.

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Nicolai

erv wrote:

I don't expect nintendo to announce anything until after his funeral.

If it hasn't already happened yet. Funerals typically take place only a few days after passing. At least they do here in the states.

NightmareEater wrote:

Because honestly, I'm tired of Nintendo thinking everyone who play their game are a kid or on Miiverse. (Because on Miiverse, you're a kid or a banned user! :V)

My guess is that most of those who are banned Miiverse users are kids! Plus, I'm sure they understand that many of their audience are adults who enjoy "kiddie" games.

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Nicolai wrote:

erv wrote:

I don't expect nintendo to announce anything until after his funeral.

If it hasn't already happened yet. Funerals typically take place only a few days after passing. At least they do here in the states.

NightmareEater wrote:

Because honestly, I'm tired of Nintendo thinking everyone who play their game are a kid or on Miiverse. (Because on Miiverse, you're a kid or a banned user! :V)

2) My guess is that most of those who are banned Miiverse users are kids! Plus, I'm sure they understand that many of their audience are adults who enjoy "kiddie" games.

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I feel that they will appoint Masayoshi Tanimura as the next CEO seeing he's the CEO of HAL.

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I don't mind discussing this. Personally, I feel we can mourn his passing AND discuss the future at the same time. Especially if rather than crying, you just play his games to honor and celebrate his life.

So let's look at this seriously. First thing's first. Miyamoto almost certainlu will NOT remain in the office. He's been trying to reduce his role in the company to just a freelance game dev. Why would he turn around and take up position as permanent CEO unless Iwata had specifically asked him to do so.

Second, don't expect to see any changes at all until mid-2016. Iwata was the type to have a plan. Miyamoto and Takeda are most likely going to follow that plan until someone else takes over or the plan runs out. The DeNA agreement will likely be honored all the same, but you can be doubly sure Nintendo will do little more than oversee the development of mobile games. They won't be putting their own resources into it.

The NX may get pushed out faster, now, as Iwata may have planned to hold off with some ideas for the Wii U (assuming, of course, that the NX is a home console or is related to home consoles) and without that driving force, Nontendo may rush to start the next phase. From what I've heard, the system impressed 3rd parties, despite having supposedly weak specs. That could be a good thing. As for anything regarding policy changes, don't get your hipes up for any revelations from the fanbase. We know so very little about procedures in Nintendo regarding the replacement of their executives. There's no telling who might be a candidate or what direction they go in.

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Bolt_Strike

shaneoh wrote:

Or they can continue doing what they have always done and make games that are targeted at everyone. I like that idea, it's a good idea, smart thinking this man.

The thing about that approach is that they can't really target "everyone" with one style of game anymore. The industry is far too diverse and fragmented for that to work now. If they want to make games that everyone can enjoy, they need a mix of different games ranging from mobile style casual games to the big budget, AAA mature games. Nintendo's avoidance of the latter limits their appeal to certain demographics.

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Bolt_Strike wrote:

shaneoh wrote:

Or they can continue doing what they have always done and make games that are targeted at everyone. I like that idea, it's a good idea, smart thinking this man.

The thing about that approach is that they can't really target "everyone" with one style of game anymore. The industry is far too diverse and fragmented for that to work now. If they want to make games that everyone can enjoy, they need a mix of different games ranging from mobile style casual games to the big budget, AAA mature games. Nintendo's avoidance of the latter limits their appeal to certain demographics.

That is true. It's commonly shown in the gamer crowd, as they tend to refer to or view Nintendo as the "kiddie" or "childish" company as they tend to avoid mature games (with the occasional exception with Bayonetta or Devil's Third), and in turn does hinder their appeal.

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Bolt_Strike wrote:

shaneoh wrote:

Or they can continue doing what they have always done and make games that are targeted at everyone. I like that idea, it's a good idea, smart thinking this man.

The thing about that approach is that they can't really target "everyone" with one style of game anymore. The industry is far too diverse and fragmented for that to work now. If they want to make games that everyone can enjoy, they need a mix of different games ranging from mobile style casual games to the big budget, AAA mature games. Nintendo's avoidance of the latter limits their appeal to certain demographics.

Crossword puzzles, Tic-Tac-Toe, Hangman and Connect the Dots are also games for "everyone", but not everyone wants to play them.

And come on, if their games were really targeted at "everyone", shouldn't their consoles be selling in far greater numbers?

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skywake

Bolt_Strike wrote:

The thing about that approach is that they can't really target "everyone" with one style of game anymore. The industry is far too diverse and fragmented for that to work now. If they want to make games that everyone can enjoy, they need a mix of different games ranging from mobile style casual games to the big budget, AAA mature games. Nintendo's avoidance of the latter limits their appeal to certain demographics.

But at the same time they only have a certain amount of content they can produce. They're going to ignore someone. So better to ignore the market that every other dev seems to think is the only one that exists. Surely the market that's already saturated is the one where they're least likely to gain traction.

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TylerTheCreator

JaredFogle wrote:

And come on, if their games were really targeted at "everyone", shouldn't their consoles be selling in far greater numbers?

Remember how well the Wii and DS sold?

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HollywoodHogan

TylerTheCreator wrote:

JaredFogle wrote:

And come on, if their games were really targeted at "everyone", shouldn't their consoles be selling in far greater numbers?

Remember how well the Wii and DS sold?

And remember how poorly the N64 and GameCube sold before then?

I guess "everyone" ceased to exist post 2009-2010.

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Bolt_Strike

skywake wrote:

Bolt_Strike wrote:

The thing about that approach is that they can't really target "everyone" with one style of game anymore. The industry is far too diverse and fragmented for that to work now. If they want to make games that everyone can enjoy, they need a mix of different games ranging from mobile style casual games to the big budget, AAA mature games. Nintendo's avoidance of the latter limits their appeal to certain demographics.

But at the same time they only have a certain amount of content they can produce. They're going to ignore someone. So better to ignore the market that every other dev seems to think is the only one that exists. Surely the market that's already saturated is the one where they're least likely to gain traction.

Oh come now. They have more than enough resources to provide a diverse mix of games, they don't need to ignore anyone.

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HollywoodHogan

skywake wrote:

Bolt_Strike wrote:

The thing about that approach is that they can't really target "everyone" with one style of game anymore. The industry is far too diverse and fragmented for that to work now. If they want to make games that everyone can enjoy, they need a mix of different games ranging from mobile style casual games to the big budget, AAA mature games. Nintendo's avoidance of the latter limits their appeal to certain demographics.

But at the same time they only have a certain amount of content they can produce. They're going to ignore someone. So better to ignore the market that every other dev seems to think is the only one that exists. Surely the market that's already saturated is the one where they're least likely to gain traction.

This is not true at all.

On any of the other consoles or a PC, one can play literally every type of game imaginable. Strategy games, sports, shooters, air combat, racing, puzzlers, platformers, unique indies, fighting games, etc, etc...the list is nearly endless. Those "other" developers are busy making games of every type and style already. Children and adults own Xbox's and PS4's.

Nintendo on the other hand, with their limited resources, pumps out the same games almost all the time. Platformers, MK, Mario Party 10+, Zelda games, puzzle games featuring Mario, etc. By Nintendo attempting to make games for "everyone", they are actually only producing titles that appeal to an ever decreasing audience, as their sales will attest.

Nintendo can't afford to take too many risks with game development (Splatoon is probably their first one in several years) so they stick to a formula and style of game that many people aren't interested in anymore, while the other consoles enjoy a wider range of gaming options that appeal to a broader spectrum.

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IceClimbers

@UGXwolf: Actually, Nintendo is putting some of their resources towards mobile development. They're the ones developing them. DeNA is for infrastructure and backend stuff.

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@IceClimbers: Isn't DeNA also helping Nintendo with its online features, also have they announced when they will release their mobile games yet?

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TuVictus

@UGXwolf: Couldn't have said it better myself. But don't they have the Mario Kart director directing the smartphone games? I can't remember where I read it or if I'm just crazy, haha

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nitrolink

Possibly dumb question: Is Masahiro Sakurai an employee of Nintendo? Could he be considered for presidency?
I've read that Sakurai left Hal Laboratory and created Sora. Sora co-developed games with other companies but was bought by Nintendo.

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jump

rferrari24 wrote:

Possibly dumb question: Is Masahiro Sakurai an employee of Nintendo? Could he be considered for presidency?
I've read that Sakurai left Hal Laboratory and created Sora. Sora co-developed games with other companies but was bought by Nintendo.

Technicaly no but I don't see him right for the role anyway, he doesn't trust his team enough to handle Smash Bros so imagine what will happen if he has the whole of Ninty.

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